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MSYtristar
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Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:46 am

Weekly seasonal service to PUJ starts next May. Bookable now via vacationexpress.com. I'm pretty sure this is the first ever nonstop service between the two cities. The Sunwing -800 will make for a nice photo op down here.

In addition to the new PUJ service, the existing CUN service from MSY is getting a boost, going from 2 to 3 weekly departures on Swift Air 737-400's (replacing Aeromexico -700's) during the same time frame...mid May to mid August.

I'm still waiting for WN or DL to pick up MSY-CUN as a seasonal route. Considering the scheduled charter frequencies have been increased from 1X weekly to 3X weekly in the space of two years, I'm confident it's not just wishful thinking.
 
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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:51 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
I'm still waiting for WN or DL to pick up MSY-CUN as a seasonal route.

Seems like that could be a strong CRJ candidate! But is there some kind of overwater restriction with those CRJ's?
Same with KIN/MBJ, which sounds like it should be in range.


So how does booking these chartered(?) flights work? Can they be booked like a normal flight through that company, or do they have to be a part of a package?
 
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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:17 am

Are we talking about Canada's Sunwing Airlines? Any information on Swift Air?
 
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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:07 am

Quoting S75752 (Reply 1):
But is there some kind of overwater restriction with those CRJ's?

No. The gulf is within 60 minutes of a suitable alternate, so all a plane would need to carry is life jackets.

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
Are we talking about Canada's Sunwing Airlines?

Yes. They are also starting flights from BUF to CUN and PUJ.

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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:02 am

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 3):
No. The gulf is within 60 minutes of a suitable alternate, so all a plane would need to carry is life jackets.

Huh, neat.... That makes me genuinely curious why it seems CRJ/ERJ routes over the gulf are impossible to find, it'd seem like they'd make a lot of sense!

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 3):
Yes. They are also starting flights from BUF to CUN and PUJ.

Interesting... So that makes this I think... Seventh freedom flights?
 
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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:08 pm

Quoting S75752 (Reply 1):
So how does booking these chartered(?) flights work? Can they be booked like a normal flight through that company, or do they have to be a part of a package?

You have to book these on the Vacation Express website, but you can book the flight only, in case you want to make your own hotel arrangements. The airfare is priced very reasonably from what I've seen.

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
Any information on Swift Air?
http://www.flyswiftair.com/

It looks like they operate 734''s and at least one 767 for charters.
 
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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:46 pm

How is a Canadian carrier, Sunwing, have the authority to fly from the US to a international destination? Is the key "international destination?"
 
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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:18 pm

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 6):

I don't know names, but Sunwing owns a US tour company who "charters" Sunwing aircraft to fly from the US to international destinations. Therefore, they do have the authority.
 
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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:45 pm

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 6):

10th freedom rights.
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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:55 pm

Quoting S75752 (Reply 1):

No major CRJ restrictions over the gulf that I know of. DL operated CRJ900s in BZE RTB a few years ago until those routes outgrew the planes.
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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:58 pm

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 6):
How is a Canadian carrier, Sunwing, have the authority to fly from the US to a international destination? Is the key "international destination?"

As far as scheduled flights are concerned, as long as all three countries allow it, there is no problem in doing so.

Now aren't these charter flights? That simplifies things a lot.

Even if they are scheduled flights, Canada and the US have open skies, so as long as Mexico and the DR agree, and seems like they have, then Sunwing can operate these routes. Several years ago, there was even talk of AC possibly attempting YYZ-LAX-SYD, with traffic rights on all segments. They settled for YYZ-YVR-SYD instead.

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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:59 pm

Quoting dsuairptman (Reply 8):
10th freedom rights.

Yes, and Sunwing has been operating flights out of the US for the past couple of years: CVG-CUN and CVG-PUJ if I'm not mistaken.

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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:24 pm

I find it interesting these flight start in May and operate during the summer. Is there much demand to PUJ and CUN in the summer months? Especially from MSY? It seems you're going from one hot and humid place to another.   
 
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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:48 pm

Quoting phxtravelboy (Reply 12):
Is there much demand to PUJ and CUN in the summer months? Especially from MSY? It seems you're going from one hot and humid place to another.

I have no idea about PUJ, but historically there was year-round service to CUN from MSY. That ended around '01 or '02 when LACSA stopped flying the route. Since then it's just been seasonal charters. Carnival has two ships based in MSY year round, one does 7-day cruises, and the other alternates between 4/5 day cruises, so I assume that has some sort of an impact on demand to beach destinations...plus, there are some beautiful beaches within a 3 and 1/2 hour drive.
 
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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:24 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
I'm still waiting for WN or DL to pick up MSY-CUN as a seasonal route. Considering the scheduled charter frequencies have been increased from 1X weekly to 3X weekly in the space of two years, I'm confident it's not just wishful thinking.

Delta applied with DOT for MSY-CUN on August 22nd; weekly 737-800 service starting February 14th.
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RE: Sunwing To Fly MSY-PUJ; Swift Air MSY-CUN

Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:20 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 5):
http://www.flyswiftair.com/

It looks like they operate 734''s and at least one 767 for charters.

They're going to be running CMH-PUJ for Vacation Express starting next March as well.
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