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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:40 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 44):

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 43):
You're absolutely right, my apologies. Nonetheless from my understanding there are no capacity restrictions in the New Zealand-UAE bilateral. Is that correct?

That's my understanding, but that's gleaned second hand and I can't carve it in stone.

UAE is not a MALIAT signatory, but we do have an open aviation market license with the UAE. No restrictions.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:54 am

Does anyone know when LAN will fly its last A340 service between AKL-SYD-AKL?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:20 pm

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 36):
Quoting Unclekoru (Reply 33):
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 34):

QF had a second service QF155/156 between 2-5 weekly with 744s after UA dropped AKL it lasted about a year when they decided to add BNE-LAX and increase MEL-LAX at the time.

Thanks again, you're a wealth of information.


It looks like Jetstar are gaining some traction with NZ business travelers.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...30/Jetstar-now-over-bumpy-NZ-start

I don't travel with them a lot as I live in Nelson, but I did make a couple of flights between AKL/WLG and WLG/CHC last month (transferring to Sounds Air at WLG - something I wouldn't have tried after a Jetstar flight a year ago) and was surprised at how many business travelers there were on these flights. Especially since Grant Kerr's last comments on this subject suggested they were struggling to gain traction with the business market.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:08 pm

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 26):
At the moment, the flights you quoted are correct. NZ8 leaving AKL on 10th Sep and NZ7 arriving AKL on 12th Sep are the last scheduled flights for ZK-NBV. A sad day for all us 747 lovers, but the end of an era.

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Any word on when NBV will leave the property? Soon after this, or will it be around for a little while?

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:14 pm

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 53):
Any word on when NBV will leave the property? Soon after this, or will it be around for a little while?

I'd heard the 16th of September mentioned. Bound for Hong Kong for maintenance. Probably about 15th hand information though so I couldn't vouch for the accuracy of the original source.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:42 am

By about this time next year NZ will have refurbished all the 77E’s, they will have in service all the 77W’s and by late 2015 will be operating 6- 789’s and withdrawn some or all of the 5- 767-300ER’s from service.
This raises the question of how they will deploy the 77E’s . There are two possible scenario’s less than 180-min. and greater than 180-min. What new services might initiated under these scenario’s? Is it possible that the SQ. arrangement could lead to the use of NZ metal beyond SIN? Could the arrangement provide a feed that could make a Sth. American service viable and where to in Sth. America? GRU-AKL is close to 16hrs which is right at the edge of the 77E’s range. Is PER-JNB a possibility with the help of a VA feed? AKL-IAH has virtually no fly around at EDTO 240-min. The UA feed east of the Rockies at IAH is awesome.
Any thoughts?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:26 am

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 55):
What new services might initiated under these scenario’s? Is it possible that the SQ. arrangement could lead to the use of NZ metal beyond SIN? Could the arrangement provide a feed that could make a Sth. American service viable and where to in Sth. America? GRU-AKL is close to 16hrs which is right at the edge of the 77E’s range. Is PER-JNB a possibility with the help of a VA feed? AKL-IAH has virtually no fly around at EDTO 240-min.

I doubt anymore 5th freedom flights will be added given all these flights can be reached by partner airlines. GRU-AKL makes the most sense to me as for the first time AKL can be used as a real transit point between Asia and South America. That's extra business NZ can bring to their own network which usually are done through Europe or the US. The flight will add to the sustainability of all their Asian routes as they will not just be about inbound tourism. To me this is killing 2 birds with one stone.

NZ has talked about the lack of partner airlines as one concern and often complained about their end of the line location geographically. This is their chance. Why hesitate? By this time next year, NZ will probably have both AV Brazil and Azul as partners in Star Alliance. This is as good as it can get in terms of partnership.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:39 am

"Air New Zealand Shelves Planned Last 747-400 Sydney Service on 05SEP14"

Air New Zealand this week has updated planned Boeing 787-9 operations on Auckland – Sydney route, until 07SEP14 Based on latest update, the Star Alliance member has shelved planned last Boeing 747-400 operation on this route, previously scheduled on 05SEP14.

On 05SEP14, NZ103/104 will be operated by Boeing 787-9, instead of 747-400. According to OAG Schedules Analyser, NZ last operated 747 aircraft to Sydney on 05JAN14.

NZ103 AKL0900 – 1030SYD 789
NZ104 SYD1230 – 1730AKL 789

On 06SEP14 and 07SEP14, 787-9 operates Sydney service twice a day.

http://airlineroute.net/2014/09/03/nz-syd-sep14update4/
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:20 am

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 57):

Well that is a pity. Really pleased I've had the chance to fly the B744 twice this year, both on the upper deck with a cockpit visit
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:32 am

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 57):

Really? That's no good. I booked that flight just to go on the 744. Paid for Works deluxe as well to get on the upper deck. Not pleased with Air NZ at the moment...
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:38 am

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 54):

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 53):
Any word on when NBV will leave the property? Soon after this, or will it be around for a little while?

I'd heard the 16th of September mentioned. Bound for Hong Kong for maintenance. Probably about 15th hand information though so I couldn't vouch for the accuracy of the original source.


NBV is scheduled to leave Auckland for scrapping in Roswell as per the below schedule. There is no maintenance planned in Hong Kong.

6074 744 1......6-Oct-14 6-Oct-14 AKL LAX 16:00 8:00 0 0/0/0 new positions
6074 744 .2.....7-Oct-14 7-Oct-14 LAX ROW 10:00 13:00 0 0/0/0 new positions

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:59 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 60):
NBV is scheduled to leave Auckland for scrapping in Roswell as per the below schedule. There is no maintenance planned in Hong Kong.

There you go. A good reason quite frankly not to ever fully trust crew scuttlebutt and why I added my caveat about the source.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:51 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 51):
Does anyone know when LAN will fly its last A340 service between AKL-SYD-AKL?

LAN has not announced the official date of the last A343 service on the SCL-AKL-SYD route. However the last A343 in the fleet will be phased out during June 2015....
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:56 am

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 59):

But on the positive, if you haven't yet flown on the 789 then you get your first chance!

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 62):

Thanks. I'm hoping the last A343 route is AKL as I really want to add the A343 to my list.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:14 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 63):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 62):

Thanks. I'm hoping the last A343 route is AKL as I really want to add the A343 to my list.

The SCL-AKL-SYD route is the only scheduled A343 route in LAN's network. On a positive note, the 787-9 will enable LAN to increase capacity on the route.  
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:36 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 63):
But on the positive, if you haven't yet flown on the 789 then you get your first chance!

Thanks for the consolidation. I have been on the 789 but that's still not the point. 744 is a classic, me and my mate booked it specifically and it's a shame that's all
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:38 am

Quick Question. Are all Air New Zealand flights to/from both TRG and NPE operated by Air Nelson? That's to all destinations, not just between the two (if indeed such a flight exists)?

Thanks,

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:01 pm

Quoting polehillsid (Reply 66):
Are all Air New Zealand flights to/from both TRG and NPE operated by Air Nelson? That's to all destinations, not just between the two

Nope. All 3 fleets operate to/from TRG and Q3/AT7 do NPE (the odd 1900 to cover as of late as well)
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:07 pm

Speaking of aircraft retirements, do we have a timetable for the withdrawal of the remaining 733 frames yet? Thanks.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:35 am

5 more A320s next year, so I believe all the 733s are gone by November, possibly earlier. Nice old frames, however their time has come  
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:59 am

Quoting Aotearoa (Reply 69):
Nice old frames, however their time has come

Fully agree there, but I'm more excited about the A321's arriving! First and only A321 flight has been on US, so will be nice to add more.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:54 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 70):

Yes, the A321 NEO, you could argue, is a perfect fit-to-mission for ANZ. Can't wait to see these frames here too.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:24 pm

"Cathay Pacific Extends Seasonal 2nd Daily Auckland Service to mid-March 2015"

Cathay Pacific is extending its Northern Winter Hong Kong – Auckland service increase, as 2nd daily CX117/118 service being extended by 2 weeks, until 14MAR15 instead of 28FEB15. Airbus A340-300 aircraft operates this route.

CX117 HKG1525 – 0735+1AKL 343 D
CX197 HKG2100 – 1305+1AKL 343 D

CX118 AKL0900 – 1525HKG 343 D
CX198 AKL1430 – 2100HKG 343 D

CX118 operates until 15MAR15.

http://airlineroute.net/2014/09/05/cx-akl-mar15/

I wonder if the NZ will ever ever put the 789 onto the HKG route?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:02 am

I've found a picture of OKS out in the sunshine at PAE.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/14955085368/in/photostream/
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:18 am

Virgin Australia is going one up on alliance partner Air New Zealand by introducing business class on its trans-Tasman and Pacific Island services from early next year.

Virgin Australia will add business class on routes to Wellington, Queenstown, Christchurch and Dunedin as well as to Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, Cook Islands and Vanuatu.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...66538/Virgin-goes-one-up-on-Air-NZ

Interesting its being added on all the NZL and Pacific operations. Some routes will certainly not need it like DUD and Vanuatu, so guess the FF's will love it, or maybe we could see it being advertised as International Premium Economy?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:39 am

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 72):
I wonder if the NZ will ever ever put the 789 onto the HKG route?

If their plan for 77E replacement is still with the 787, then there will be a very good chance that HKG will eventually be 789. It is a matter of when.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:04 pm

Where is the title registered of a New Zealand domiciled aircraft subject to a lease or purchase agreement ?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:09 pm

-NZF has been awaiting first flight for about 2-weeks. I wonder if it was one that was rolled out that still needed work? When was it to be ready for delivery?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:17 am

A320 in PMR? looks like there is an A320 currently taveling PMR-AKL as NZ1912.

Any ideas? possibility of on proving flight? preping for an JQ accounment.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:39 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 78):
A320 in PMR? looks like there is an A320 currently taveling PMR-AKL as NZ1912.

Hard to imagine.
Counties-Manakau played in PMR today - extra flight for that?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:17 am

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 77):
-NZF has been awaiting first flight for about 2-weeks. I wonder if it was one that was rolled out that still needed work? When was it to be ready for delivery?

I made a note a of 15th September, but now recall it was actually 'mid September'.

http://nyc787.blogspot.com '787 Full Production Table' estimates delivery about 22nd September.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:07 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 78):

Charter for the Brethren?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:34 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 74):

As the Tasman / Pacific fleet operates through all ports interchangeably I imagine it would be a huge PITA to have some with and some without J... perhaps with DUD et al they will do what QF does on the SYD-HVB and sell the whole aircraft as Y, then bump up the Platinum FF to J at checkin?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:25 am

Have we heard any news on the first ATR 72 in the new fern livery?

If I remember correctly someone said one was in the paint hangar, but that was a few weeks ago.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:30 am

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 76):
Where is the title registered of a New Zealand domiciled aircraft subject to a lease or purchase agreement?

Personal Property Securities Register has all the info on that. But you have to pay to get the info.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:45 am

Quoting TheLifehouse (Reply 83):

Yes, MCF has been painted in the new livery as part of it's C Check. Should roll out this Thursday/Friday all going to plan.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:47 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 78):

Brethren charter. A few of these coming up over the next wee while, including 773 to/from CHC and 763 to/from WLG.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:51 am

Quoting Unclekoru (Reply 81):

Quoting zkncj (Reply 78):

Charter for the Brethren?
Quoting NZ1 (Reply 86):

Quoting zkncj (Reply 78):

Brethren charter. A few of these coming up over the next wee while,

Pardon my ignorance/naivety... who or what are the Brethren ?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:28 am

It's all about the destination AND the journey.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:55 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 85):
Yes, MCF has been painted in the new livery as part of it's C Check

Is this happenning in NSN as it was mentioned a while back that heavy maintenance for the ATRs would happen there??
Will it be in the black or white style and when can we expect to see it rolled out?
Thanks for any info  
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:55 am

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 87):
Pardon my ignorance/naivety... who or what are the Brethren ?

A well funded ultra conservative religious outfit once linked to the National Party under Don Brash when they circulated scurrilous election pamphlets.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:16 am

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 82):

Well many regional destinations like ZQN, DUD, Apia, Vanuatu etc will certainly see upgrades with AKL, WLG and CHC selling J seats with the remaining being upgrades
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:11 am

Quoting Andrensn (Reply 89):

MCF has had it's C Check in CHC due to capacity issues at NSN. The repaint was done in CHC and is the new fern livery (white fuse/black aft fuse & tail). Same as the majority of the domestic A320s. As I mentioned, it's due back in service Thurs/Fri this week.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:07 pm

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 86):
including 773 to/from CHC and 763 to/from WLG.

where is the destination ?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:17 pm

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 86):
including 773 to/from CHC and 763 to/from WLG.

Are you able to say the day and ETA/ETD?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:36 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 93):
Quoting 777ER (Reply 94):

Date Aircraft type From To Depart Arrive
10-Sep 773 AKL CHC 1200 1320
10-Sep 773 CHC AKL 1435 1555
11-Sep 772 AKL CHC 2015 2135
11-Sep 772 CHC AKL 2250 0020+1
13-Sep 763 AKL WLG 0515 0615
13-Sep 763 WLG DUD 0700 0815
13-Sep 763 DUD WLG 0900 1015
13-Sep 763 WLG AKL 1900 2000
13-Sep 763 AKL WLG 2100 2200
13-Sep 763 WLG AKL 2300 2359

Note there are other other flights operated by the A320 & 737, but I've only listed the widebodies.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:37 am

Jetstar will bring low fares to two additional Tasman routes this year including launching its first international services from Wellington.

The airline today announced it will start flying three times a week between Wellington-Gold Coast from Friday 12 December and three times a week Queenstown-Gold Coast from Saturday 13 December.

Source
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:16 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 95):

Thank you.

Quoting flyjetstar (Reply 96):

This article http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/6...r-announces-new-Wellington-service implies JQ could also be announcing another WLG tasman route soon
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:37 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 95):
13-Sep 763 WLG DUD 0700 0815
13-Sep 763 DUD WLG 0900 1015

Did I read that correctly ? Is that the first time in DUD for a widebody ?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 147

Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:47 am

Quoting flyjetstar (Reply 96):
Queenstown-Gold Coast

Leisure market to leisure market? Interesting move.

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Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos