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G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:10 pm

After sitting at ABQ for the better part of 20 years, G-AWNH (c/n 20270/169), an Ex-BA 747-136 finally got the claw      


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Found out this morning, as I did not see the typical sight of a rudderless tail near the old hanger. Drove up to find a tractor and a few neat piles of insulation and aluminum   I am sad indeed. Probably the last 747-100 I'd ever see.



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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:29 pm

You may wish to send airfleets an update.
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:54 pm

Am I the only the one that likes the old British Airways livery compared to the current livery? The only one looks more majestic and royal...
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:07 pm

Quoting TheMSYGuy (Reply 2):
Am I the only the one that likes the old British Airways livery compared to the current livery? The only one looks more majestic and royal...

Count me in.
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:10 pm

Had a couple of SEA-LHR flights on this bird. The route was one of the last 747-100 holdouts.
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:10 pm

Quoting TheMSYGuy (Reply 2):
Am I the only the one that likes the old British Airways livery compared to the current livery? The only one looks more majestic and royal..

I am a bigger fan of the old livery, I just think they need to lower where the blue meets the white.. It has always looked to me like it has its pants pulled up to high.
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:18 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 1):

I will send them info. Thanks.
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:54 am

Shame to see this one go, although surprised it has been around for so long. I thought it was long gone.

I flew on G-AWNH back in December 1993 from LHR to RUH - even got a jump-seat for the landing. Happy memories.
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:12 am

Quoting Boeing778X (Thread starter):

After sitting at ABQ for the better part of 20 years, G-AWNH (c/n 20270/169), an Ex-BA 747-136 finally got the claw

Very sad. This was the first thing I remember seeing after landing in ABQ this past March. It was a beautiful bit of nostalgia.   
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:15 am

For those of us not on Facebook is there a picture of the scrapping?
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:01 am

Quoting n471wn (Reply 9):
For those of us not on Facebook is there a picture of the scrapping?

Yes, here is the photo of the scrapping to anyone who couldn't see.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/238/3/1/1_by_whitetail_designs-d7wtubl.jpg
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:41 am

Good bye old friend   
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:23 am

Sad to see a piece of aviation history disappear. I remember being surprised by that bird the one time I flew into ABQ. I had no idea it was there, and the sight of a 747 tail was not on my list of possible sights.
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:49 am

Was this the last ba b747-100 left?.
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:59 am

Quel dommage !

Always sad when a trusty true workhorse of a 747 meets her end from any airline.

I wonder how many people flew on this aircraft over 30 approx years of service ?

Glad I got to work on the 'spiral staircases' before they went.

( 741 with P&W....doesn't get better than that if you have an interest in 747 history )

Agreed about the Landor livery but it would look dated now.
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:41 am

Was there a reason that it has been parked for so long - was it for sale or did it get bought by an airline that went under?
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:14 am

Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 15):
Was there a reason that it has been parked for so long - was it for sale or did it get bought by an airline that went under?

Agreed, it just doesn't make sense to have a frame sitting there for 20 years before getting scraped...time value of money...surely BA could have got higher value if the frame had been scrapped in the 1990's...just don't understand...


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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:27 am

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 13):

It seems there are still a few left looking at airfleets. S2-AFA, N747GE, 6 with the iran airforce, then several in storage with airlines like kalita, evergreen saha.. But surely a rare plane to see now.
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:41 am

Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 15):

Was there a reason that it has been parked for so long - was it for sale or did it get bought by an airline that went under?

Check out the description on the later of the two photo's at the top of the page, explains it all (basically not owned by BA):

"an ex BA 747 now being used by the FAA for non-destructive testing. Established in 1991 as the FAA Aging Aircraft NDI Validation Center (FAA - AANC), the center was renamed in 1995 the Airworthiness Assurance NDI Validation Center"
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:31 am

Several BA -100s were sold to Kabo Air and might still exist, dumped somewhere in Nigeria. Most of the others went to Roswell and scrapping dates were never recorded, though I vaguely recall that one of them might have been retained as some kind of training airframe (along with an Aer Lingus -100). I wonder if they are still there?
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:28 am

bye bye "November Hotel"

My 8th ever flight was on her in 1986. We went to visit relatives in PDX and flew Pan Am LHR-SFO N729PA (now my user profile) and that was my first international flight. SFO-PDX on a United 727-22 N7020U. We were booked on a United DC8 from PDX-ORD but due to a tight connection and the fact the flight was delayed, we changed to a AA flight instead. I regret not having flown on a DC8 now, but got to fly on N1972 instead, an AA 727-23, and the 21st 727. No sooner had we transferred the booking to AA, than they flight came up delayed too! Net result was a dash through O'Hare and getting to the BA counter to be told the flight had closed. We weren't the only ones, but AA put us up in the O'Hare Hilton across the road from the terminal (what a view from the window!!) and gave us some food vouchers too and we got to spend a day in Chicago. Anyway G-AWNH was operating the flight that evening ORD-LHR, my first flight on my "national carrier". The flight was memorable for not being that good and for two of the stewardesses to have a blazing row in the galley. We were sat right next to it, don't remember what it was over now, but more entertaining than the movie!

I was always pleased to see NH after that. We never flew BA to the US again either, nothing to do with the live floor show, but we found we got far better service of Pan Am than BA. In fact never flown BA long haul since either.

Funny she outlasted some of the BA 744s that come in to replace the 741s
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:00 pm

Does anyone know what storage charges are like these days?
Must come a point when the cost of storage over runs the scrap value. Ball park figure?
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:02 pm

Quoting Faro (Reply 16):
surely BA could have got higher value if the frame had been scrapped in the 1990's...just don't understand...

BA sold this aircraft in February 1998 to AAR Aircraft Leasing and immediately leased it back. On 14 June 1999 BA returned it to AAR who immediately sold it to Sandia National Laboratories. It was ferried that same day from British Airways Maintenance Cardiff to ABQ and has been there ever since.

"FAA/AANC Testbed Aircraft" fuselage titles and small tail roundel were applied after its arrival at ABQ and certainly before mid 2003.

G-AWNH first flew on 9 November 1971 and was delivered to BOAC on the 23rd of that month. When it arrived at ABQ it had accumulated 107,818 flight hours in a total of 21,156 cycles in over 28 years of service for BOAC and then BA.. So, with the youngest BA 744 currently in service being just 15 years old last April we can hope to see BA 744s in service for some time yet.
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:56 pm

Quoting TheMSYGuy (Reply 2):
Am I the only the one that likes the old British Airways livery compared to the current livery? The only one looks more majestic and royal...

I agree. RIP, what a classic frame and carrier Livery. Just imagine what the world was like when she went into service in 1971. Those cycles are low too. Too bad she could not make it into a museum.
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:04 pm

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 12):
Sad to see a piece of aviation history disappear. I remember being surprised by that bird the one time I flew into ABQ. I had no idea it was there, and the sight of a 747 tail was not on my list of possible sights.
Quoting FlightShadow (Reply 8):

Very sad. This was the first thing I remember seeing after landing in ABQ this past March. It was a beautiful bit of nostalgia.

She was always the most noticeable thing at ABQ.
She remained the largest plane on the grounds. The biggest plane that uses ABQ are UPS 767-300Fs, and even those look small compared to her.

Quoting EIDAA (Reply 7):
Shame to see this one go, although surprised it has been around for so long. I thought it was long gone.

I flew on G-AWNH back in December 1993 from LHR to RUH - even got a jump-seat for the landing. Happy memories.
Quoting n729pa (Reply 20):
bye bye "November Hotel"

My 8th ever flight was on her in 1986. We went to visit relatives in PDX and flew Pan Am LHR-SFO N729PA (now my user profile) and that was my first international flight. SFO-PDX on a United 727-22 N7020U. We were booked on a United DC8 from PDX-ORD but due to a tight connection and the fact the flight was delayed, we changed to a AA flight instead. I regret not having flown on a DC8 now, but got to fly on N1972 instead, an AA 727-23, and the 21st 727. No sooner had we transferred the booking to AA, than they flight came up delayed too! Net result was a dash through O'Hare and getting to the BA counter to be told the flight had closed. We weren't the only ones, but AA put us up in the O'Hare Hilton across the road from the terminal (what a view from the window!!) and gave us some food vouchers too and we got to spend a day in Chicago. Anyway G-AWNH was operating the flight that evening ORD-LHR, my first flight on my "national carrier". The flight was memorable for not being that good and for two of the stewardesses to have a blazing row in the galley. We were sat right next to it, don't remember what it was over now, but more entertaining than the movie!

I was always pleased to see NH after that. We never flew BA to the US again either, nothing to do with the live floor show, but we found we got far better service of Pan Am than BA. In fact never flown BA long haul since either.

Funny she outlasted some of the BA 744s that come in to replace the 741s

I didn't think some A.netters who rode her would pop up! What a history she had with you.

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I thought this would be nice to share with the community, but I did walk up to the fence and ask the scrappers for a piece of the aircraft, as a memento.

They were kind enough to do a little digging to get me a piece of what appears to be part of the frame

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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:43 pm

Sorry to digress a little;

the very first flight I had ever been on was a BA 747 back in December 18, 1997. It flew DAC - LHR with a stopover at DEL. It probably was a 744, but at the time I was only 6 and would not have been able to differentiate a 744 from a 742 (I did know it was a Boeing 747 though). I have been keeping track of the reg# of every plane I have flown in the last 5-6 years. But is there anyway I can find out which particular plane my first flight was? Is there some database that keeps records that far back?
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:07 pm

Yes thinking back my first flight ever was Bangkok to Vienna in 1989 or 88. I think Austrian airlines. Would be nice what equipment was on that route at the time.
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:30 pm

Just looked on www.lhr-lgw.co.uk

G-CIVI arrived as BA144 at 0510.

Took a while to find it, as it shows as a flight from Delhi.
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:34 pm

Quoting turjo101 (Reply 25):
the very first flight I had ever been on was a BA 747 back in December 18, 1997. It flew DAC - LHR with a stopover at DEL.

Yes....hopefully
BAW144 GCIVF 744 B74B VIDP

BAW144 last airport is shown as DEL, which would tie in, if it was an overnight flight from DAC, then this was the arrival for the 19th Dec 1997 approx 5am

http://www.lhr-lgw.co.uk/heathrow%20archives%201990.html

if that link doesn't work try....

http://www.lhr-lgw.co.uk/ click on Airport & SBS Archives, then Heathrow Airport Archive Years 1990, then follow the year and month and all the Departures/Arrivals for Dec 1997 will appear. Then click on the day you want A or D for Arrivals/Departures.

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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:08 pm

Quoting sailas (Reply 17):
N747GE

I thought this was replaced by an ex JL 747-400 ?
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:00 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 27):

Just looked on www.lhr-lgw.co.uk

G-CIVI arrived as BA144 at 0510.

Took a while to find it, as it shows as a flight from Delhi.
Quoting n729pa (Reply 28):

Quoting turjo101 (Reply 25):
the very first flight I had ever been on was a BA 747 back in December 18, 1997. It flew DAC - LHR with a stopover at DEL.

Yes....hopefully
BAW144 GCIVF 744 B74B VIDP

BAW144 last airport is shown as DEL, which would tie in, if it was an overnight flight from DAC, then this was the arrival for the 19th Dec 1997 approx 5am

http://www.lhr-lgw.co.uk/heathrow%20archives%201990.html

if that link doesn't work try....

http://www.lhr-lgw.co.uk/ click on Airport & SBS Archives, then Heathrow Airport Archive Years 1990, then follow the year and month and all the Departures/Arrivals for Dec 1997 will appear. Then click on the day you want A or D for Arrivals/Departures.

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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:31 am

Quoting United_fan (Reply 29):
N747GE

I thought this was replaced by an ex JL 747-400 ?

"The two planes will be working side by side this summer (2014)"
http://www.gereports.com/post/865199...onomy-new-747-test-jet-is-a-flying

So perhaps a photo-op before the scrapper. Or perhaps they want two.
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:33 am

Just interested... My first ever flight was in a BA skycot in late 1989 (LHR-BOM).

Would this have been a BA 741?
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:28 pm

As a frequent visitor to ABQ it will be strange the next time I fly in not to see that old BA bird sitting there after all these years.
The FAA Validation Center has also had a NW DC-9-10 and a partial DL B727-200 (fuselage only, no wings or tail section) on property for years. Wondering if they are getting the chop as well?
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:12 pm

Quoting SLCGuy (Reply 33):
The FAA Validation Center has also had a NW DC-9-10 and a partial DL B727-200 (fuselage only, no wings or tail section) on property for years. Wondering if they are getting the chop as well?

I imagine they will soon, especially since the 747 is gone.

The DL 727 is just a fuselage at this point. That aircraft is N517DA
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I believe the aircraft in question is N8990E
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:43 pm

There was also a Metro II and Huey there for a long time, not sure if they are gone or not.

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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:03 pm

I agree it'll be strange not to have that 747 by the rental cars anymore. Always loved seeing it, even if it was looking a little worse for wear.

Quoting Boeing778X (Reply 34):
The DL 727 is just a fuselage at this point.

That DL 727 has been a fuselage for at least a year, if not more.

Quoting SLCGuy (Reply 35):
There was also a Metro II and Huey there for a long time, not sure if they are gone or not.

I didn't see either when I was there a few weeks ago.
 
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RE: G-AWNH Finally Scrapped

Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:14 pm

Sounds like the FAA is shutting down that facility and disposing of the aircraft. At least all these aircraft spent their final years serving a useful purpose (even if non-flying) for research and testing of structures. Otherwise they would have been scrapped years ago somewhere.

[Edited 2014-08-28 13:18:05]

They must be getting rid of the aircraft quick, the most recent google maps aerial photo show the 747, 727 fuselage, DC9, DC9 nose, Metro and Huey plus minor parts of aircraft. Most of this seems to be gone now.


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