Qatar Airways A350 Fully Painted

KarelXWB · Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:33 am

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 27):
Does the 350 have the same itsy bitsy porthole windows as the 380?

Quoting davs5032 (Reply 49):
Pretty sure they're comparable in size to the 787's.

They are comparable.

PanHAM · Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:48 am

Nice paint job alright, but the aircraft itself has no appeal. I've seen the 350 here at FRA, had an invitation when they presented her a couple weeks ago, walked through the cabin as well. OK, it has more room in Y on a 9 abreast config. wider seats, all efficient and build for the purpose as it should be. But on a distanmce I will have difficulties, in the future, to tell which aircraft that is flying above. Call it a 767 on steroids or whatever, these modern designs don't have "character"

For passengers it will be OK, as long as they are not suqeezed 10 abreast .

aerokiwi · Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:28 am

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 33):
I don't mind the nose, and I think the black surround windshield is distinctive. But what purpose does the black surround serve?

I've heard it's purely aesthetic because the A380-style windows look, well, "less that sleek".

Quoting slinky09 (Reply 41):
As for the comments on the nose etc, that has a pretty similar profile to a 787

No, it really doesn't.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 50):
They are comparable.

So, smaller. Is this comparing like with like though? So, the actual outer window surface or the inner passenger cabin surface? The A380 plays games by having a much larger inner, pax cabin surface compared to the size of the actual, viewable window.

777boi · Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:53 am

I must admit, as a die hard boeing fan, this is one sleek looking a/c, apart from the racoon eyes that is! I cant believe how much it looks like a narrow body at first glance!

EPA001 · Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:16 pm

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 52):
Is this comparing like with like though?

If I am not mistaken this is a like with like comparison. The B787 has taller windows, the A350 has wider windows. Overall the B787 window might just be a tad larger, but the difference is negligible.

ek17 · Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:18 pm

I think it looks amazing, I love the aircraft itself and Qatar's livery also looks fantastic on this bird!

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 33):
I'm also wondering if the 350 is higher off the ground than the 787. The 787 seems to squat on its gear.

Exactly, the 787 looks really odd sitting so close to the ground.

For all of those who are moaning about the 'raccoon eyes' (which I personally think look gorgeous along with the nose), here's a photoshop with and without...

I think the black makes the nose look less like the 787, which has a horrid nose.

davs5032 · Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:41 pm

I know this has been discussed previously at some point, but are the raccoon eyes standard or can airlines opt to go "naked"? After seeing the photoshopped picture, I really like how it looks without the feature. It still looks modern and sleek, but maintains some of the distinct 'Airbus look' passed down from its predecessors, which IMO is a unique and positive trait to carry forward.

holzmann · Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:43 pm

I agree with my fans here that the 757-200 ETOPS (with winglets) is perhaps the most attractive and distinctive AC out there. Followed only by the 748 Queen herself. Next for me has to be the 789.

The A350 doesn't do it for me. In fact it looks better without the raccoon eyes from the Photoshop photo above.

bunumuring · Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:44 pm

I agree that the 'raccoon eyes' make the A350 look a little weird, but unique. The nose reminds me a bit of a Saab 340 nose. I don't like the tail at all as it looks kind of awkward.
I will hold judgement however until I see one in the flesh. I missed the prototype in Sydney last month as I was in hospital unfortunately. Mates who saw it however, were very positive about it's appearance and looks.
I'm not a big fan of the Qatar livery but I do like the colours. A 'reversed' colourscheme would look great in my opinion, with the titles in a metallic grey/silver on a deep maroon / burgundy fuselage.
Cheers,
Bunumuring.

Thunderboltdrgn · Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:01 pm

Quoting davs5032 (Reply 56):
I know this has been discussed previously at some point,
but are the raccoon eyes standard or can airlines opt to go "naked"?

They are optional.

Ruscoe · Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:29 pm

Quoting EK17 (Reply 55):
Exactly, the 787 looks really odd sitting so close to the ground.

Is there a photo anywhere of the 787 and a 350 together, or will we have to wait until Qatar take delivery of their 350?

Ruscoe

by738 · Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:54 pm

Quoting EK17 (Reply 55):
For all of those who are moaning

Noone is "moaning" , they are expressing an individual opinion that suits their tastes

14ccKemiskt · Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:29 pm

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 59):
They are optional.

Source on that?

Thunderboltdrgn · Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:30 pm

Quoting Ruscoe (Reply 60):
Is there a photo anywhere of the 787 and a 350 together

This is the best I can find at the moment:

from: http://twitter.com/Skywalkerfun/status/433042194161991680

[Edited 2014-08-28 09:44:15]

Thunderboltdrgn · Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:36 pm

Quoting 14ccKemiskt (Reply 62):

KarelXWB;

Quoting KarelXWB (The Black Cockpit Windows Of The A350 - Reply 19):
As far as I know, it's a cosmetic feature only. So it's up to each customer to decide

[Edited 2014-08-28 09:50:01]

bmibaby737 · Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:43 pm

Quoting Miami (Thread starter):
It looks very nice, quite stunning. Do you like it?

Is there some way/place to find out what the names are, that are painted under the cockpit windows?

Aesma · Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:54 pm

Quoting davs5032 (Reply 49):
Maybe they're trying to make the 6 pane window design look more modern/futuristic? The rest of the plane is beautiful, however. Perfect proportions.

The original A350 (or the original XWB, I'm not sure) had only 4 windows, with two big curved ones and two smaller on the sides. At some point Airbus went back to 6 (probably much cheaper when you have a cracked one) but added that black paint to keep the same look.

Ty134A · Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:17 pm

Quoting Aesma (Reply 66):
Nice paint job alright, but the aircraft itself has no appeal. I've seen the 350 here at FRA, had an invitation when they presented her a couple weeks ago, walked through the cabin as well. OK, it has more room in Y on a 9 abreast config. wider seats, all efficient and build for the purpose as it should be. But on a distanmce I will have difficulties, in the future, to tell which aircraft that is flying above. Call it a 767 on steroids or whatever, these modern designs don't have "character"

i totally understand what you are meaning! i am 31 now and already miss the good old days. i am so glad i got to fly the old ilyushins, tupolevs and other real stuff. great was the 707 in iran as well, or the dc-10. a few weeks ago i was on an SP, what a thrill.... or the ILW out of AYT, on a hot summer day, fully loaded with sunburned russians an cargo below...

there is no character to these new designes. i disliked the b787 an do not like the a350. i enjoy every a340 i see, not to mention an il-96 once in a while.

but i guess that's life...

still in the end looking forward to the new plastic jets

and my first 773 trip next week (hope there won't be an acft change to a 77W!!!)...

goldenstate · Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:45 pm

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 27):
But that nose and cockpit - my god what were they thinking?

They were thinking about a spacious cockpit with optimal visibility from a relatively upright windshield. Form follows function.

Quoting davs5032 (Reply 56):
I know this has been discussed previously at some point, but are the raccoon eyes standard or can airlines opt to go "naked"?

I believe the black cockpit window surrounds are standard.

SelseyBill · Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:11 pm

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 63):
This is the best I can find at the moment:from: http://twitter.com/Skywalkerfun/stat...91680

I'm just intrigued to find out whether it was the captain or first officer that pedalled their way out to the A350 on their bike ?

14ccKemiskt · Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:19 pm

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 64):
As far as I know, it's a cosmetic feature only. So it's up to each customer to decide

Again, what is the source of the statement that the racoon eyes are optional. Since all renderings we've seen from all customers who ordered the A350 has them, I'll belive that they are mandatory.

And I love them!

AirPacific747 · Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:57 pm

Quoting tjcab (Reply 31):
They are so different. Seriously, apart from them both having 2 engines, a tail, a wing and a fuselage...well we can then say that all big twins were copied from the A300, or the A340 off the IL-86 and so on. Anyway, this topic is about the fully painted plane. What an elegant plane (although i am not fond of the two-tone Qatar livery on this particular craft, or any other, for that matter.

It's not that - it's just that Boeing introduces radical design changes with the Dreamliner, then suddenly Airbus does too with the A350. You can call it a natural evolution, but I see it as a "me too" by Airbus.

[Edited 2014-08-28 16:02:25]

FirstClass · Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:04 pm

Love this plane in QR livery and the eye shades

lazybones · Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:48 pm

Quoting holzmann (Reply 57):
757-200 ETOPS (with winglets) is perhaps the most attractive and distinctive AC out there

Nooooo! - 757 looks like an anorexic 767

My choice for best looking:-

Boeings: 747-400, 777-300 , 767-300, 757-200 + Winglets ... Ugly duckling award has to be the 737 ( horrid nose, stumpy gear, squashed engines - yuk!)

Airbus: A350, A340-600/500, A320 , A380 , A330 .... Ugly duckling award goes to A300/A310 or A340-200 (Engines look too small)

Chaostheory · Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:03 am

I don't know if QR follows any policy as regards to the naming of aircraft.

Some aircraft are named after people and others after place names.

Most recently, I was parked next to a 777 named 'Gaza'.

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Photo © Kevin Boydston

Unfortunately, I can not make out this A350's name either, but then again most of my schooling was in classical arabic.

goldenstate · Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:56 am

Quoting 14ccKemiskt (Reply 70):
Again, what is the source of the statement that the racoon eyes are optional. Since all renderings we've seen from all customers who ordered the A350 has them, I'll belive that they are mandatory.

Indeed, A350 cockpit window surrounds are a "non-customizable area" according to Airbus.

Acheron · Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:16 am

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 27):
But that nose and cockpit - my god what were they thinking?

They were thinking about having commonality with the A380

Thunderboltdrgn · Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:38 am

Quoting 14ccKemiskt (Reply 70):
Again, what is the source of the statement that the racoon eyes are optional

1. you miss-quoted me
2. I gave you the link to where I read it. If that is not good enough don't blame me.

Quoting goldenstate (Reply 75):

Indeed, A350 cockpit window surrounds are a "non-customizable area" according to Airbus.

Link?

14ccKemiskt · Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:13 am

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 77):
. I gave you the link to where I read it. If that is not good enough don't blame me.

Sorry, but I cant find any link posted by you. Can you please re-post it?

tjcab · Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:31 pm

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 71):
It's not that - it's just that Boeing introduces radical design changes with the Dreamliner, then suddenly Airbus does too with the A350. You can call it a natural evolution, but I see it as a "me too" by Airbus.

Personally, I don't think they look anything alike, but that is my opinion. The tail and tail section is more A380. the only think I would say is similar are the large screens in the flight deck. But then I can say that the Boeing 757/767 copied the A300-600/A-310 in that regard. come on!. Form follows function. Manufactures must respond or loose market share. Lets just enjoy this one for what it is.

Ruscoe · Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:11 pm

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 63):
This is the best I can find at the moment:

Thanks for that.

It is going to be interesting comparing the two.

Ruscoe

fodar · Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:28 pm

Quoting RobK (Reply 23):
What is the name on the nose please? (Arabic)

The writing appears to spell "Sudanthil" (which can also be spelled "Sudantheel"), a town in Qatar.

william · Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:51 pm

In this era of Euro Whilte and billboard letters on the side of fuselages, Qatar's two tone paint really stands out.

macc · Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:00 pm

So, as the 787 is the Dreamliner, is the 350 now the Eyeliner?

Tangomaniac · Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:08 pm

Quoting macc (Reply 83):

So, as the 787 is the Dreamliner, is the 350 now the Eyeliner?

Great, let's keep this nickname, it's even better than "raccoon"!

Thunderboltdrgn · Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:34 pm

Quoting 14ccKemiskt (Reply 78):
Sorry, but I cant find any link posted by you. Can you please re-post it?

My link was to a quote by KarlXWB who says that it is a cosmetic feature only and
judging by his posts in the flight test and production thread he is usually very well informed.
So if he says that it is a cosmetic feature I take his word for it.

The Black Cockpit Windows Of The A350 (by 14ccKemiskt Feb 17 2013 in Tech Ops)
"As far as I know, it's a cosmetic feature only. So it's up to each customer to decide."

DarkHorse23 · Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:19 pm

Just an A380 with the top deck chopped off really. Not the best looking plane I've ever seen but if it works it works.

afriwing · Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:30 pm

Quoting fodar (Reply 81):
Quoting RobK (Reply 23):
What is the name on the nose please? (Arabic)

The writing appears to spell "Sudanthil" (which can also be spelled "Sudantheel"), a town in Qatar.

Yes exactly. Sudantheel is also a border crossing point between Qatar and Saudi Arabia. The area is under dispution with both countries claiming Sudantheel belongs to them. Makes me wonder the significance of naming their first A350 Sudantheel. A cheeky dig at Saudi Arabia maybe

HELyes · Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:45 pm

Quoting william (Reply 82):
In this era of Euro Whilte and billboard letters on the side of fuselages, Qatar's two tone paint really stands out.

We will see Euro white and big letters when the first European A350 rolls out next year...

Quoting macc (Reply 83):
So, as the 787 is the Dreamliner, is the 350 now the Eyeliner?

LOVED that

josepha1 · Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:07 pm

Beautiful plane!!!
Was it manufactured in Alabama? Because I see 2 bullet hole stickers where the sensors are on the front nose.

jk

Qatara340 · Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:26 am

It's strange that AAB did not yet reveal the configuration of the A350. I would guess it would have around 300 seats with 42 J and 250ish economy seats making it an overall larger capacity wise than the current 777-200 Lr.

KarelXWB · Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:49 pm

Quoting macc (Reply 83):
is the 350 now the Eyeliner?

Some name it the Hushliner.

Ruscoe · Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:11 pm

Quoting macc (Reply 83):

So, as the 787 is the Dreamliner, is the 350 now the Eyeliner?

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 91):
Some name it the Hushliner.

I think Spaceliner, would more closely reflect the XWB concept, and also looks a bit like a space ship without the blacked out cockpit windows, which make an otherwise very modern aircraft look dated..

Ruscoe

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