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United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:33 am

Please continue the discussion here:

Here is the link to Part 20 that has been archived:
United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 20 (by 777ER Jun 7 2014 in Civil Aviation)

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United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:47 pm

Last full fleet update: Updated 8/17/14

The remaining number for Express shows 67.
Chautauqua 12 have ceased based on reports in thread 21, thus = 55.
SkyWest Emb120 in house [18] should not be included, thus = 37.
Silver B1900D will cease soon, so three not to be repainted = 34.
Republic Dash 8-400 in house [1] should not be included thus = 33.
Repainted since list published = N865RW, thus = 32.

Thus remaining 32 [in UA Blue] are:
[2] CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet : 826AS/909EV.
[10] ERJ-145 Trans States : 833/838/839/841/842/843/844/845/846/847HK.
[1] ERJ-170 Shuttle America : 859RW.
[2] CRJ-700 Mesa : 519MJ/522LR.
[6] CRJ-700 SkyWest : 756/758/760/762/764/979SK .
[11] EMB-120 SkyWest : 566/567/569/578/579/580/582/583/584/585/586SW.

__________________________________________________________________________________________

Fleet as listed 16th August, 2014.

B744 (20/23) 104-105, 107, 116-120, 122, 127-128, 171, 175, 177, 179-182, 197, 199. (121/174/178 remaining)
B763 (34/35) 641-644, 646-649, 651-654, 656-662, 663-677 [653 Star]. (655 remaining)

>>>>PAINT United - Mainline COMPLETED = 645
A319 (55/55) - A320 (97/97)[475 UA Retro]
B73G (36/36) - B738 (130/130) - B739 (109/109 [sCO 78, sUA 31] [3436 CO Retro, 3432 eco-skies]
B752 (95/95)[sCO 41, sUA 53] - B753 (sCO 21/21)
B764 (16/16)
B772 (74/74)[sUA 52, sCO 22]
B788 (12/12)[entering fleet].

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>>>>PAINT United Express - Express COMPLETED = 582,Express REMAINING = 67
CRJ-200 SkyWest (69*/69) COMPLETED (*Includes N874AS in House Colors, Up to 20 other Skywest House units may float between AA/AS/DL/UA)
CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet (13/14) 820AS, 825AS, 827AS-830AS, 832AS-836AS, 877AS. (826AS/909EV UA Blue)
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (9/9) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet [ex CO/UA] (130/130) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (3/12) 266SK, 267SK, 288SK. (Chautaqqua ERJ145 may have left fleet)
ERJ-145 Trans States (15/26) 802HK, 809HK-811HK, 829HK, 832HK, 834HK-836HK, 853HK-857HK. (812/833/838/839/841/842/843/844/845/846/847HK UA Blue, 806HK, Trans States House)
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (104/104) COMPLETED.
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (35/38) 631RW-657RW 855RW-858RW, 861RW-864RW. (859/865RW UA Blue, 979RP Shuttle America House)
ERJ-175 Mesa (5/5) 88301-93305 NEW DELIVERIES.
ERJ-175 Sky West (10/10) 103SY, 105SY-110SY, 113SY-114SY,116SY NEW DELIVERIES.
CRJ-700 GoJet (25/25) COMPLETED.
CRJ-700 Mesa (18/20) 501MJ-516LR,518LR,521LR. (519MJ/522LR UA Blue)
CRJ-700 SkyWest (64/70) 701SK-703SK, 705SK-710SK, 712SK-713SK, 715SK-716SK, 718SK-719SK, 724SK, 726SK-728SK, 730SK, 732SK, 738SK, 740SK, 742SK-746SK, 748SK, 750SK-755SK, 763SK, 765SK-768SK, 770SK-774SK, 776SK, 778SK-780SK, 782SK-796SK. (756/758/760/762/764/979SK UA Blue)
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
Q400(Dash 8) Republic (33/34) 187WQ-188WQ, 190WQ-191WQ, 195WQ-196WQ, 199WQ, 202WQ-204WQ, 208WQ-209WQ, 213WQ-214WQ, 323NG, 328NG, 332NG-333NG, 336NG, 338NG-339NG, 34NG, 341WQ-342NG, 345NG-346NG, 351NG, 354NG, 356NG, 380NG, 502LX, 507LX-508LX. (510LX Republic House)(Checked 10/26/13 - found these operational units)
B1900D Silver Gulfstream (10/13) 81535-81536, 16540-47542, 81546, 87551-87552, 81556-87557. (38537/81533/81538 CO Express) (all may go away with CLE hub)
EMB-120 SkyWest (35*/46) 221SW, 223SW, 229SW, 233SW-235SW, 237SW, 284YV, 290SW-292SW, 294SW-295SW,298SW 562SW-563SW, 568SW - (* includes 18 in SkyWest House Paint plus [566/567/569/578/579/580/582/583/584/585/586SW in UA blue (11]).
ATR 42-320 Cape Air (2/2) COMPLETED.
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PAINT TOTALS: Mainline 699/703=99.3%, Express 582/649=89.7%, Combined 1281/1352=94.7%
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INTERIOR/EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS

Airbus new interior bins - COMPLETED - (A319 55/55 N8xxUA) (A320 97/97 N4xxUA)

New Recaro 3520 Slimline Y seats: (A319 8F/42E+/78Y=128) (A320 12F/42E+/96Y=150)
(738 16F/48E+/90Y=166)(739 20F/42E+/117Y=179)
A319: (24/55) 01,08,17,21,23,27,33,35,37-50,53-54
A320: (85/97) 01-17,19-47,49,51-53,55-57,60-87,90-91,95-96
738: (2/130) 3243,3260
739: (21/109) 3811-3831

New ps Configuration:
752 (15/15=100%)-Completed: 502,505,510,512,518,546,568,587-590,595-598

Interior Refresh on in service sUA 752 aircraft:
Completed:536,545,547,549,551,556,559,564,585

New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies
B772*(43/43=100%): ER:204,206,209,216-229[14],782-788[7],791-799 [9], NonER:769,771,773-778[6],780-781
B744 (23/23=100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21=100%) - Complete - B763 (14/14=100%)/[2 Cabin] - Complete
TOTAL INTL(101/101=100%)[exlcudes 9 HI/Dom aircraft]
*IPTE: AVOD/Power, 3-3-3 Y configuration, Forward/Rear facing BusinessFirst Seats, Global First

New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former CO International fleet
B752 (41/41=100%) - B764 (16/16=100%) - B772 (22/22=100%) - 788 (12/12=100%)- TOTAL (91/91=100%)

Economy Plus conversion [*Not Counting Three 73G and Eight 738 Micronesia aircraft]
COMPLETED - 788; 772; 764; 753; 752; 739; 73G*. (Micro unit 3736)
NOT COMPLETED:
738*- 17 Ships: 3261-3277; other 105 Completed [80.8%]

New Hawaii Configuration for Select 772A aircraft - 32Business*/312Y (7 across F recliners)
B722A (9/9=100%) Completed: 210-215,768,772,779

DirecTV (Former CO aircraft) [*Not Counting Four 73G and Eight 738 Micronesia aircraft]
73G*- 32/32 [100%]
738*- 105/122 [86.1%] - Not Completed 3261-3277, awaiting installation with mid-lav removal
739 - 64/78 [82.1%] - Not Completed 3465-3478 - to get streaming WiFi
753 - 9/9 [100%] - Excl 12 Hawaiian aircraft with overhead TV (3860-3871) to get streaming WiFi

WiFi Installation (none for 73G,763,764,788)
A319 - (55/55): COMPLETED (WiFi Stream - 2/55: 823,844)
A320 - (97/97): COMPLETED (WiFi stream - 10/97: 433,440,452,455,466,468-469,484,493,497)
739 - (87/109): 3403,3406-3417,3419-3423,3425-3429,3433,3435-3436,3438,3441,3443-3447,3449-3455,3457,3459,3464-3478,3801-3830
738 - (20/130): 3217,3220,3224-3225,3242-3243,3260,3283,3505,3507-3508,3522-3526,3528,3531
752 - (15/98): All 15 p.s. units completed
753 - (1/21): 3860
744 - (23/23): COMPLETED (WiFi stream 12/23: 104-105,116-117,121-122,127-128,177,181-182,197)
772 - (3/74): 215,773,3011 (WiFi stream 6/74: 210-215,768,772,779 HI aircraft only)

753 ETOPS: (100%] CO Build: 9/9 - TZ Build 12/12

Split Scimtar Wingets
73G: (0/36):
738: (7/130): 3259,3277,3288,3507-3508,3528,3531
 
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United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:12 pm

Quoting qfatwa (Reply 1):
[2] CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet : 826AS/909EV.

Probably don't need to include these, the CRJ side of ExpressJet is going to stop flying UA during Q1.
 
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United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:17 pm

Thanks for doing this guys but I am a bit confused with the 737-900A/ER refit,

Do they all get direct TV or the news ones coming online will get only streaming wifi

Also which are the correct fleet numbers 109 or 78

Quoting qfatwa (Reply 1):
739 - (87/109):
Quoting qfatwa (Reply 1):
739 - 64/78

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United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:49 pm

12 sCO 739
52 sCO 739ER
All have DirecTv and will/have US mainline WiFi

14 sCO 739ER
32 sUA 739ER (3801 and growing)
All to have streaming WiFi content and WiFi
 
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United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:11 pm

It seems like the Airbii that got the slimline with gray seat covers installed before the signature seat was announced are having the gray seat covers replaced by the blue/black signature seat covers. Is this accurate? Is there any indication how complete the seat cover swap is?

For the slimline refit on the Airbus and 737 fleets, the F seats were being retained. Do those get a new seat cover to match the economy seats or do they look like they always have?

[Edited 2014-09-07 15:19:23]
 
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United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:07 am

adamblang,

Yes, all gray leather-covered Airbus YC seats are to get replacement "Signature Seat" black/blue covers. I can't provide a status update on this, but you are correct-- replacement is, or will be, underway.

There's been no change to the Airbus or B737 FC seat. The FC seat covers on the reconfigured Airbus planes do not seem any newer or fresher. They are the same dark grey color -- same seat. The B737 seats and their covers haven't changed, either. Still a navy blue-ish. From what I hear, domestic FC seats are to be replaced at some point in the next couple of years, but of course, that's subject to change, I'm sure. Perhaps the new FC seats or new FC seat covers will look like the latest United Express FC seats: black. I think that would look quite nice.

Now to do something about our choice of carpet color. The s-CO light blue carpet shows dirt tracks and stains very soon after "introduction." I flew aboard a B787 within weeks of its inauguration. The aisle carpet from just past Door 2L and the main BusinessFirst galley looked filthy.
 
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United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:19 am

Thanks flyua! Curious to see if the E-170s and 757-300s some day match the rest of the domestic signature fleet but I guess time will tell. Nice to see improving consistency of hard product across the board though.
 
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United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:50 am

Now that I've got the right thread...it appears that 739A N32404 flew to INT, assuming for WiFi: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N32404

Quoting qfatwa (Reply 1):
[2] CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet : 826AS/909EV.

For what it's worth, N909EV was painted.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:51 pm

Another mid-lav 738, N37267 flew to INT on 5Sept, presumably for mods.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:42 pm

320:
N454UA entered LCQ 2144/9Sep, slimlines?
N458UA entered LCQ 2161/5Sep, slimlines?
N459UA exited LCQ 2145/9Sep with slimlines

738:
N37267 entered INT 2150/5Sep for reconfiguration/WiFi (mid-lav aircraft)
N78511 exited INT 2144/4Sep with WiFi
N76514 entered INT 2128/9Sep, WiFi
N76515 exited INT 2129/8Sep with WiFi

739:
N32404 entered INT 2141/4Sep, WiFi
N65832 exited INT 2143/4Sep with WiFi
N69833 (New delivery) sked to enter SEA Induction 2191/10Sep

752:
N575UA sked to ferry to VCV 2154/11Sep, fleet exit to FedEx

772:
N786UA exited HKG 896/6Sep
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:22 am

Flew on A319 #4040 today, it had the streaming entertainment working. Have to say, it was great. My only critique is that the iPad app is static in its orientation... My case made it a bit difficult to use... but watched a great German film.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:04 am

320:
N447UA has WiFi Stream

738:
N77295 exited INT 2161/11Sep, UA.com doesn't show WiFi
N87513 sked to exit INT 2168/12Sep with WiFi
N37523 entered INT 3260/10Sep for WiFi
N37267 entered INT 2150/5Sep for reconfiguration/WiFi (midlav unit)
N76502, N78509, N76515, N79521, N76522, N78524 and N76526 have scimitar winglets

739:
N32404 sked to exit 2166/12Sep with WiFi
N75432 sked to enter INT 2167/12Sep for WiFi
N45440 entered INT 2165/11Sep for WiFi
N65832 exited INT 2143/4Sep with WiFi

744:
N105UA entered XMN (Xiamen, China) 2121/4Sept for in-seat power

772:
N226UA entered SFO 870/6Sep
N792UA entered HKG 896/6Sep

E175:
N118SY entered service on 9/7/2014

[Edited 2014-09-11 23:06:02]
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:17 pm

Quoting flyua (Reply 6):
There's been no change to the Airbus or B737 FC seat. The FC seat covers on the reconfigured Airbus planes do not seem any newer or fresher. They are the same dark grey color -- same seat. The B737 seats and their covers haven't changed, either. Still a navy blue-ish. From what I hear, domestic FC seats are to be replaced at some point in the next couple of years, but of course, that's subject to change, I'm sure. Perhaps the new FC seats or new FC seat covers will look like the latest United Express FC seats: black. I think that would look quite nice.

They are in testing with premium customers. Customers test premium seat prototypes. No final prototype has been picked yet.

Quoting flyua (Reply 6):
Now to do something about our choice of carpet color. The s-CO light blue carpet shows dirt tracks and stains very soon after "introduction." I flew aboard a B787 within weeks of its inauguration. The aisle carpet from just past Door 2L and the main BusinessFirst galley looked filthy.

Noticed the carpet is not holding up well. Does look filthy.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:35 pm

738:
Correction N37253 entered INT 3260/10Sep for WiFi (was reported at N37523)

752:
N580UA appears to be entering SFO 697/15Sep for fleet exit prep

772:
N214UA sked to enter CWF 2133/14Sep for WiFi
N224UA sked to exit CWF 2178/13Sep with Intl WiFi - CWF must be doing WiFi installs
N76010 sked to exit HKG 116/154Sep with Intl WiFi
N77012 sked to enter HKG 115/13Sep for Intl WiFi
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:17 pm

Aircraft # 478 received Scimitars in MCO. Back in the fleet.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:44 am

So are the CO and UA 777s going to still have different interiors? That's absurd!
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:57 am

Quoting zhiao (Reply 16):
So are the CO and UA 777s going to still have different interiors? That's absurd!

I agree. Has anyone heard of a time frame when the entire widebody fleet will have the same product? My guess is not until they retire the 747, or when the 7810 enters service.
Same question for the narrow body fleet. And are they still sticking to the promise of streaming for Android in December? Is the content streaming free?

One more question, will the 747 Star Alliance plane retain the tulip or will that be repainted to *A with the globe?
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:25 am

N194UA (Charter 747) has gone on a couple test flights, so it looks like she's almost ready to go back into service.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:00 am

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 17):
Is the content streaming free?



Just got back from Orlando yesterday on UA # 327, flew N426UA (A320), the Wifi and Streaming entertainment worked brilliantly. The streaming content is identical to what was offered on the flight down which had AVOD, sCO 757. Yes the streaming entertainment is free, the wifi cost $6.99 which I thought was fair. The wifi worked well and I was I messaging folks the whole flight. I was worried because my Ipad only had about 45-50% charge before the flight and there are no charging ports on board. However for such a flight, 2 hours, it was more than adequate. A trans-con might be a different story.

This was my first experience with the Streaming content, I think for folks who own lap tops or tablets it's actually preferable to the AVOD in the seat backs. UA actually does a good job of informing folks by email the day before the flight that the aircraft does have free streaming content and to bring your device with you for the flight.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:50 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 19):
This was my first experience with the Streaming content, I think for folks who own lap tops or tablets it's actually preferable to the AVOD in the seat backs. UA actually does a good job of informing folks by email the day before the flight that the aircraft does have free streaming content and to bring your device with you for the flight.

  
They have done a good job of keeping the passengers in the loop on the changes. I don't really understand why they decided to roll out the Streaming content on aircraft with no power ports first but, I'm sure it has to do with MX schedules and the whole Direct TV contract drama.

In the short term UA is definitely going to get a lot of heat from pax upset about the loss of AVOD but in the long run I think we'll look back on their decision to move to streaming content as a good move.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:54 pm

My flight from DXB to IAD leaves in a few hours and I just got an email notifying that my 777 has wi-fi available and the coverage maps shows the entire route with wi-fi coverage. I'm amazed as I thought this service would be domestic only. Very impressed.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:59 pm

744 Charter unit N194UA en route Chennault Intl (Lake Charles, LA - CWF) 2145/15Sep - aircraft was damaged, CWF for paint or more repairs

752 Fleet exit
N553UA sked to ferry SFO-GYR 2158/15Sep, lease return
N580UA sked to enter SFO 697/15Sep, sold to FedEx

STT757, I'll echo your take on steaming WiFi - tried on my iphone on an A320 and had tons of content and operated just fine.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:01 pm

Putting light colored carpet on a commercial jet doesn't make much sense. I sense navy blue carpet in the 787 fleet's future along with any a/c "upgraded" with this shade of carpet.

There are also a ton of tough synthetic materials out there that should meet fire codes that are easier to clean and don't show tracks. An upgraded version that FR has for example with a bit more under padding and a deeper shade would be dead easy to keep clean and would look nice. I'm sure they could put patterns in it as well.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:42 pm

Regarding the carpeting, I always thought the latest S-UA carpet design on the IPTE wide body fleet looked especially nice. It has a pattern that hides dirt really well. How has that been wearing? Since it's a relatively new design, why not go with this? I think it would look great with the new dark blue leather slim line seats. It would even match the S-CO cloth seat covers.



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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:02 pm

319:
N830UA entered LCQ 2154/15Sep

320:
N458UA exited LCQ 2156/16Sep with slimline seats

739:
N69833 sked to exit 2179/18Sep

744
N107UA sked to exit HKG 862/18Sep, not showing in-seat power throughout

752:
N553UA ferried SFO-GYR 2158/15Sep, fleet exit, lease return
N579UA sked to ferry SFO-VCV 2166/16Sep, fleet exit to FedEx

763:
N665UA entered MCN 2160/15Sep
N666UA exited MCN 2162/15Sep

789:
N38950 sked to exit SEA induction 2165/16Sep to IAH
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:06 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 25):

With 3950 just coming in today, is the inaugural from LAX to IAH in jeopardy...I'm booked on it  if so what are they going to sub it with?
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:11 am

738:
N76514 exited INT 2130/17Sep with WiFi, possible scimitar winglets
N77520 entered INT 2130/17Sep for WiFi

744:
N175UA entered HKG 869/16Sep

752:
N536UA exited SFO, entered VCV 2183/17Sep, fleet exit, not shown on my FedEx list
N559UA sked to enter GYR 2124/178Sep, fleet exit, looks like lease return

[Edited 2014-09-17 22:12:11]
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:33 am

789 Ship 0950/3950 currently scheduled 2129/19Sep IAH-DEN-LAX-IAH ... Presumably non-revenue flight for training purposes.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:01 pm

Quoting qfatwa (Reply 1):
Split Scimtar Wingets
73G: (0/36):
738: (7/130): 3259,3277,3288,3507-3508,3528,3531
Quoting CALTECH (Reply 15):
Aircraft # 478 received Scimitars in MCO. Back in the fleet.

The first 900ER to have these installed
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:27 pm

Yep, it looks like ship #3903 787-8 will operate the what would have been inaugurals.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:43 am

319:
N824UA sked to enter LCQ 2159/20Sep, hopefully for slimline seats

320
N492UA sked to exit LCQ 2161/20Sep with Slimline seats/Streaming WiFi
N497UA sked to enter LCQ 2162/20Sep for slimline seats

738:
N37293 sked to enter INT 2157/20Sep for WiFi

739:
N75432 sked to exit INT 2157/20Sep with WiFi -
N45440 sked to exit INT 2146/19Sep with WiFi
N69833 exited SEA 2179/18Sep, entered INT 2145/19Sep for WiFi

772:
N217UA exited PEK 2192/19Sep
N228UA sked to enter CWF 2141/20Sep for WiFi
N78002 sked to enter HKG 2139/21Sep for WiFi
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:58 am

Spotted United's first 789 N38950 on Friday night around 21:35, when it arrived without pax at IAH gate C-14 as UA2129 after a day of test-flights between hubs:

IAH-DEN . 0916-1108

DEN-LAX . 1211-1334

LAX-IAH . 1622-2136

My gosh, what a BEAUTY! Perfectly proportioned...and long too -- the tail was right next to the VSR, like a 764, however it sits low to the ground for a plane of its size -- horizontal and not angled up like the 764's aft section -- and no tail skid either like the 767s have. Also the satellite blister on the upper fuselage was very apparent.

No info on what its flying schedule for Sat 20 Sep might be.

LAX-MEL to commence on 26 Oct.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:38 pm

Quoting windy95 (Reply 29):
The first 900ER to have these installed

Like nobody cared, oh well. Should have 47 -900ERs done by the end of the year, 100 total -800 and -900ERs by the end of the year. The 737-700s start getting them February 2015.

And for those who have been waiting,

Looks like the 747 fleet ISP will start with N105UA and should have it this month when it gets out of Xiamen. The whole 747 fleet should be complete by May 2015.

The 777 Honolulu birds, 2368, 2372, 2379 and 2510-2515 should start getting ISP this December and be completed by May 2015.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:00 pm

And the rest of the 737-800s (73X) should be getting their ISP and be completed by April 2015.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:30 pm

Hey CALTECH, I was in Orlando last week and noticed they started painting over the "CO" titles and Globe on the two hangars at MCO. Where are in the process now? Are they going to leave them blank, paint "UA" or put a lighted sign on the hangars?

Thanks.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:35 pm

Hi CALTECH, thanks for the updates. I think there are around 25 or so of the 800's done with Scimitars already. So around 75 more of the 800's & 900's by years end, that's pretty impressive.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:29 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 35):
Hey CALTECH, I was in Orlando last week and noticed they started painting over the "CO" titles and Globe on the two hangars at MCO. Where are in the process now? Are they going to leave them blank, paint "UA" or put a lighted sign on the hangars?

The 'Continental' has been painted over, and new 'UNITED' 3D looking block letters will be put up. They will not be lighted on the runway side, as GOAA doesn't want that. At least, that's the story.

Quoting ordramper98 (Reply 36):
Hi CALTECH, thanks for the updates. I think there are around 25 or so of the 800's done with Scimitars already. So around 75 more of the 800's & 900's by years end, that's pretty impressive.

Looks like about 7 -800s per month for a while, and about 3 -900ERs in Sep, 9 in Oct, 16 in Nov, 19 in Dec and 15 in Jan. Yup, about 95 total by year end.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:06 pm

First revenue flight for the 789 currently shows as 1086/22Sep IAHLAX
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:12 pm

Quoting beachbum1970 (Reply 24):

The carpet is nice but I definitely prefer the CO seat covers.
[url=http://m.maploco.com/details/5f34zxvq][img]http://www.maploco.com/vmap/s/8395334.png[/img][/url]
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:31 pm

CALTECH:
Thanks for the update.

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 34):

And the rest of the 737-800s (73X) should be getting their ISP and be completed by April 2015.

It appears this is F and E+ only. Does UA have plans to add ISP for Y in the 738? Many of the 739s have ISP for the entire aircraft. It would make sense to add in Y on at least the streaming WiFi 739 aircraft.

Looks like UA's first revenue service for the 787-9 (N38950) will be Flight 1186/22Sep IAH-LAX, 1440 CDT departure time
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:50 pm

Rumors are circulating that a reprieve is in the works for the three class 763 fleet. 1 aircraft still to exit this year, but other 20(?) to be refitted with two class, winglets, and new cockpit displays. This, on top of keeping an additional 9 ETOPS 757's shows a welcome bit of forward thinking: replace some Atlantic narrow bodies and keep the 737 out of Hawaii markets it can't serve properly.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:08 am

Quoting GreenArc (Reply 41):
Rumors are circulating that a reprieve is in the works for the three class 763 fleet. 1 aircraft still to exit this year, but other 20(?) to be refitted with two class, winglets, and new cockpit displays. This, on top of keeping an additional 9 ETOPS 757's shows a welcome bit of forward thinking: replace some Atlantic narrow bodies and keep the 737 out of Hawaii markets it can't serve properly.

Very interesting. I welcome this rumored info! Keeping the 763s and reconfiguring them as two-class would enable UA to improve the pax experience on the routes they currently fly, to do TATL routes that the 752 can't, and possibly to increase gauge on others like TXL, STR, LHR, BHX, MAN, EDI, GLA and so on. There are S. America routes that could be upgauged like BOG, or potential new ones like COR, MVD and BSB, and service to EZE, GIG and GRU could be augmented. Freed-up 752s could be used throughout the system, including Hawaii.

Fleet info:

I saw the latest E175 to enter United's fleet N84307 today parked at IAH gate B84J. Owned by UA but to be operated by YV. Not in revenue service yet.

Edited to correct Mesa's code.

[Edited 2014-09-20 19:51:39]
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:13 am

Oh joy, more 2-class planes, just what we needed.

Not.

Hope this rumor isn't true, except for the keeping of the 757s. If they're going to do anything to the 3-class 763s, update Y, put winglets on them and call it a day. There is nothing wrong with F and C.

[Edited 2014-09-20 21:13:56]
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:31 am

Another site had a mock-up of a cheaper way to convert 3 class to 2 class 763s using surplus business seats. I'm not sure you could get five rows of E+ behind Business, but the config would be very close to the 2 class unit totals. If they were to be kept short term I don't think UA would spend for new seats and massive mod work required to remove/move lavs, etc.
Here's the proposal.
http://koston.org/Proposed%20767-3%20HI%20Config.png

The ETOPS 752s N543-545UA and N547-552UA. They are 1991/92 vintage and surely could be used on Hawaii, especially from DEN and not have weight restrictions westbound in the Spring from the West Coast.

I always thought the new ps configuration had the flexibility to serve limited TATL markets with high premium/low Y markets, if there are such markets. 7 of 15 current ps aircraft are ETOPS.
sCO 752 are 16F/45E/108Y = 169
ps 752 28F/48E+/66Y = 142.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:32 am

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 40):
It appears this is F and E+ only. Does UA have plans to add ISP for Y in the 738? Many of the 739s have ISP for the entire aircraft. It would make sense to add in Y on at least the streaming WiFi 739 aircraft.

I really hope they do, as that would give them an edge over DL for domestic craft. Currently, the 738, 737, and 753 just have F and Y+ power, with the 320, 319 and 752 having none. I've only heard that they're installing power in the 319 and 320 from their site, but I couldn't find if it's going to be throughout or just Y+. I haven't heard if they're going to hchange anything for the other craft.

The 739ER seems like a step in the right direction, but very sadly, the 738, 753 and 752 seem to be what they like throwing on Hawaii and Transcons, and the 320 on other transcons.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 25):
744
N107UA sked to exit HKG 862/18Sep, not showing in-seat power throughout

Doesn't seem like a good sign.

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 33):
Looks like the 747 fleet ISP will start with N105UA and should have it this month when it gets out of Xiamen. The whole 747 fleet should be complete by May 2015.

Here's hoping... Quite overdue.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:58 am

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 44):
The ETOPS 752s N543-545UA and N547-552UA. They are 1991/92 vintage and surely could be used on Hawaii, especially from DEN and not have weight restrictions westbound in the Spring from the West Coast.

On top of that, they should also keep the 757s that have not already been promised to FX. They're already short on narrowbodies and these 757s have at least 10 years of life in them. DL is still flying 757s from 1984, no way a 1993 UA 757 is on its last legs.

I've talked to many UA pilots who are not thrilled about the 739.

[Edited 2014-09-20 23:59:31]
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:35 am

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Quoting GreenArc (Reply 41):
Rumors are circulating that a reprieve is in the works for the three class 763 fleet. 1 aircraft still to exit this year, but other 20(?) to be refitted with two class, winglets, and new cockpit displays. This, on top of keeping an additional 9 ETOPS 757's shows a welcome bit of forward thinking: replace some Atlantic narrow bodies and keep the 737 out of Hawaii markets it can't serve properly.

quote=Schweigend,reply=42]Very interesting. I welcome this rumored info! Keeping the 763s and reconfiguring them as two-class would enable UA to improve the pax experience on the routes they currently fly, to do TATL routes that the 752 can't, and possibly to increase gauge on others like TXL, STR, LHR, BHX, MAN, EDI, GLA and so on. There are S. America routes that could be upgauged like BOG, or potential new ones like COR, MVD and BSB, and service to EZE, GIG and GRU could be augmented. Freed-up 752s could be used throughout the system, including Hawaii.[/quote]

Almost has to be true because they deferred the 788's arriving in 2015 without any way to fill that capacity. Making the planes much better inside and stretching assets out while holding onto capital should allow UA to make a significant impact on debt in 2015 vs. paying for 788's. No one will complain about a refurbished 763 2 class, while the 3 class ones are aweful in Y.

As for keeping the 9 additional 757's, good move. As mentions, DEN is one that can use them to Hawaii and keeping them off the west coast to Hawaii is a welcome move. Again, stretching the life of existing assets. Hope they clean up the interiors/refurbish them!

Any news on the possible purchase of used Airbus 320 Family aircraft?
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:45 pm

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 47):
Any news on the possible purchase of used Airbus 320 Family aircraft?

Maybe the 752s and 763s rumors are in place of picking up the rumored 320 family aircraft. The 752/763s are already on the property and could be easier and less expensive to retain vs. picking up used aircraft. The 752/763s will provide more flexibility than 320s even if they do not match 320 type sectors.

UA444, those 3 class 763s have too few seats overall and the 6 F seats take up the space of 12 C seats or probably 28-35 Y seats. Applying the config suggested in Reply 44 would bring all 763s into roughly the same seat count, meaning flexibility while reducing CASM to a reasonable range. I'd wonder how many times the 6F seats are sold at full price. If 3 were retained, that would allow 6C or probably 14Y seats as an alternative.

At least 2 of the ETOPS 752s went through interior refresh in 2012.

739 New Delivery:
UA is showing a ferry 2152/22Sep BFI-SEA - This should be N68834, but the aircraft number is not shown on United.com flight info yet.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 21

Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:36 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 48):
Any news on the possible purchase of used Airbus 320 Family aircraft?

I must have missed that rumor...I thought UA was looking into used 737s, most likely from CM. Are they looking at both types?

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