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BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:01 am

Is it allowed ?

What are the economics of an A380 on a

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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:19 am

Not sure what you are asking here.
An A380 in BA service to Lagos ? I wouldn't have thought so at this stage
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:25 am

Sorry got called away.

Anyway, economics of A380 on LOS. What are they for A380 flight under 5 hours considering it's a high yielding route ?

Restricted by frequency so why not ?
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:06 pm

I don't know much about LHR-LOS, but surely, with the small amount of A380s in its fleet, BA could find better uses.
 
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Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:20 pm

BA selling 100 Club World seats daily to Lagos ?
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:24 pm

Is LOS ready for A380s?
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:47 pm

Quoting bwwt (Reply 3):
I don't know much about LHR-LOS, but surely, with the small amount of A380s in its fleet, BA could find better uses.
Quoting bwwt (Reply 3):
BA selling 100 Club World seats daily to Lagos ?

BA and VS are daily with frequency split between the two due to restrictions.

Seems a no brainer to me considering the yields.
 
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Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:14 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 4):
BA selling 100 Club World seats daily to Lagos ?

Lagos is a licence to print money; it's why it was saved from the chop in Virgin's recent route streamlining.

Cheapest fare currently for travel in November is north of £3000 return on BA or VS; not at all bad for the bottom line considering the flight is a mere 6 hours, shorter than every transatlantic route in both carriers' portfolios.

The route also attracts more fare paying First clients than miles redemptions in First. Return is generally around the £8,000 mark, which is more than HKG, yet barely half the distance.

There is just ONE seat available in First on tomorrow's service.

There is additionally Arik serving the route daily with their A345s, albeit with a cheaper fare structure.

So, in answer to your question, 100 J seats daily to LOS is easily and regularly achieved.

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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:39 pm

Quoting yakima (Reply 5):
Is LOS ready for A380s?

It would be impossible to answer that without resorting to the highest levels of sarcasm.

Keep in mind, LOS is the airport where the manager thought it would be a good idea to get rid of some shrubbery by pouring umpteen thousand gallons of fuel over it and throwing a match. It worked, for about a week, then the growth was back to what it used to be. It also meant the ARFF was out of fuel for an extended period of time, not that LOS management were kind to let their customers know of course.

There was also the Hydro Air 747 cleared to land on a runway that was closed according to the NOTAM. The crew repeatedly questioned the clearance, only to have it repeated time and again. When the aircraft landed and made it roughly half-way down the runway, it passed over a 1 meter deep trench rigged across the runway. End result was a 747 with 3 out of 4 MLGs ripped off, resulting in a write-off. And what the the ATCO who issued the clearance do when he saw that? Press the emergency button? Nope. Call the ARFF out? Nope. Evaluate his mistakes together with a supervisor? Nope. He plain and simply ran away.

Then there are the numerous instances of wingtips impacting various obstacles, from light poles to other aircraft, all under the guidance of marshallers.

Some will also recall the pictures of ULDs taking flight courtesy of jet blast from a 747. 'That's the ground handlers problem' you say. Well, no, not when they were directed to store the ULDs in the area they did, in an effort to make one part of the airport look tidy for the visit of a dignitary.

There's also the story of an entire KLM cabin crew being abducted when they were in the crew van. All were released following payment of ransom, but they all came hope carrying HIV. Yes, both the girls and the boys had been raped by their abductors who knew they were HIV positive.

LOS is indeed a license to print money, and there's a very good reason for that.
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:30 pm

Quoting yakima (Reply 5):
Quoting B777LRF (Reply 8):

Mmm. This I had not considered.

  
 
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Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:23 pm

Quoting 1400mph (Reply 2):
Anyway, economics of A380 on LOS. What are they for A380 flight under 5 hours considering it's a high yielding route ?

BA LHR-LOS block time is 6.5 hours. Not sure where you got "under 5 hours."
 
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Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:18 pm

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 8):
There's also the story of an entire KLM cabin crew being abducted when they were in the crew van. All were released following payment of ransom, but they all came hope carrying HIV. Yes, both the girls and the boys had been raped by their abductors who knew they were HIV positive.

Whaaaaaaat? When was this? I know it's a bit off topic, but "merely" having unprotected sex with an HIV+ person does not 100% guarantee transmission, aside from which, if this happened in the last five years or so, the first thing an STI clinic would do would be to put them on a post-exposure prophylaxsis, which nukes the virus.
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:32 pm

Quoting blueshamu330s (Reply 7):
100 J seats daily to LOS is easily and regularly achieved.

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Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:38 pm

Quoting steve6666 (Reply 11):
Whaaaaaaat? When was this? I know it's a bit off topic, but "merely" having unprotected sex with an HIV+ person does not 100% guarantee transmission, aside from which, if this happened in the last five years or so, the first thing an STI clinic would do would be to put them on a post-exposure prophylaxsis, which nukes the virus.

It was more than 10 years ago, but security in LOS has gone down hill since then. I also believe the chances of contracting the disease are somewhat higher when you are being anally raped. I don't know what became of the KLM crew members, only that KLM did everything they possibly could do for them. For a very long time thereafter KLM operated with a double crew on LOS rotations, with the inbound crew operating the outbound flight and thus negating the need to overnight them in Lagos.
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:46 pm

Quoting blueshamu330s (Reply 7):
BA selling 100 Club World seats daily to Lagos ?
Lagos is a licence to print money; it's why it was saved from the chop in Virgin's recent route streamlining.

Cheapest fare currently for travel in November is north of £3000 return on BA or VS; not at all bad for the bottom line considering the flight is a mere 6 hours, shorter than every transatlantic route in both carriers' portfolios.

The route also attracts more fare paying First clients than miles redemptions in First. Return is generally around the £8,000 mark, which is more than HKG, yet barely half the distance.

There is just ONE seat available in First on tomorrow's service.

There is additionally Arik serving the route daily with their A345s, albeit with a cheaper fare structure.

So, in answer to your question, 100 J seats daily to LOS is easily and regularly achieved.

This is a great business plan for a 747 high j with 70 j seats, but an A380 would be overkill. Plenty of BA destinations in the USA could use an A380. DFW, MIA, Houston and SFO.
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:56 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 4):
BA selling 100 Club World seats daily to Lagos ?

That's easy, but I question their ability to sell 350 economy seats, daily.
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:58 pm

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 13):
It was more than 10 years ago, but security in LOS has gone down hill since then. I also believe the chances of contracting the disease are somewhat higher when you are being anally raped. I don't know what became of the KLM crew members, only that KLM did everything they possibly could do for them. For a very long time thereafter KLM operated with a double crew on LOS rotations, with the inbound crew operating the outbound flight and thus negating the need to overnight them in Lagos.

OK, that makes more sense. Chances are considerably higher for anal penetration rather than vaginal, but it's still not 100% certain that you will get it. Over 10 years ago PEP didn't exist from what I remember - and it would only now be effective within 48 or 72 hours (iirc). Miserable story then.

If security in Lagos is bad, then what about the AF A330 in Port Harcourt that ran into a herd of cows on the runway (in the dark)? AF sent the Surete down there to stop the illegals coming anywhere near French territory.
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Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:13 pm

40 plus years ago, a UK-based airline had issues in that part on the same continent, so they hired local security guards. When that failed, they brought out their own on each flight. It waa a brave airline that overnighted at some of these destinations. Some airlines used a locally based staff member to check there was fuel available before they left to fly there, though those that could, brought their own. The same staff member would make a runway inspection before landing, and canny flight crew would make there own runway and taxiway inspections before departure.
 
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Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:29 pm

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That's easy, but I question their ability to sell 350 economy seats, daily.

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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:44 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 14):
This is a great business plan for a 747 high j with 70 j seats, but an A380 would be overkill. Plenty of BA destinations in the USA could use an A380. DFW, MIA, Houston and SFO.

What makes you think that it would work on any of those routes you mention better than a LOS?
 
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Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:46 pm

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 8):
There's also the story of an entire KLM cabin crew being abducted when they were in the crew van. All were released following payment of ransom, but they all came hope carrying HIV. Yes, both the girls and the boys had been raped by their abductors who knew they were HIV positive.

Don't know when this supposedly has happend but I'm cabin crew with KLM for 22 years now and have never heard about such an event....
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:46 pm

The absolute fuel saving will increase with every extra mile flown. I suspect that is why BA operates their 380s :

LHR-HKG: 5,994 miles
LHR-JNB: 5,620 miles
LHR-LAX: 5,456 miles


Other long BA routes include:

LHR-EZE: 6,904 miles
LHR-SIN: 6,765 miles
LHR-NRT: 5,974 miles
LHR-HND: 5,974 miles
LHR-BKK: 5,938 miles
LHR-GRU: 5,863 miles
LHR-PVG: 5,755 miles
LHR-GIG: 5,734 miles
LHR-MEX: 5,541 miles
LHR-PEK: 5.080 miles

LHR-IAH: 4,834 miles
LHR-DFW: 4,750 miles

LHR-LOS: 3,101 miles

So the fuel cost saving on a LOS flight would be just less than a half that on an HKG flight.

From these I would favour HND if BA is willing to roll their current NRT and HND flights into one. Currently BA operates a 77W on the NRT flight, and a 772 on the HND flight. Combined they offer F26 / J104 / W76 / Y310. Compare this with a 380 configured F14 / J97 / W55 / Y303. The fuel saving of one 380 v a 77W and a 772 should be significant. The only negative is the loss of W Class seats, although depending on current loads this may not be a problem..

Another possibility is SIN. But with the 77W flight going on to SYD I think this is less likely. Perhaps IAH or DFW might also be in the frame even though they are slightly shorter.

Most of the other routes listed above are too thin for a 380.

A possible factor in route selection would be a need for additional capacity. This could significantly alter the picture.
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:01 am

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 14):

This is a great business plan for a 747 high j with 70 j seats, but an A380 would be overkill. Plenty of BA destinations in the USA could use an A380. DFW, MIA, Houston and SFO

I agree. I would bias toward DFW, then SFO (given the large amount of seats they reliably fill), then MIA.

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Quoting Johnwaynebobbet (Reply 19):

What makes you think that it would work on any of those routes you mention better than a LOS?

The fact that two of them are enormous OW markets and SFO fills seats like it's their job.
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:03 am

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 8):

It would be impossible to answer that without resorting to the highest levels of sarcasm.

Instead you post high levels of lying. Why even make up these outrageous lies? Do you get enjoyment out of it? It was bad enough your story is a figment of your imagination, but you had to add even more disgusting lies on top of that about a scientific impossibility of every kidnapped victim getting infected with HIV. What is wrong with some people?
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:02 am

Dating back over 35 years is the old saying "Happiness in Lagos is V1". In the early 80's Boeing had some of their 727 FE's flying with Air Nigeria/Govt of Nigeria out of Lagos -- the stories they would tell -- they were very happy to see that program go away.
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:38 am

Quoting VV701 (Reply 21):

I'm not sure if I've misunderstood you but the A380 is about to start SIN operations isn't it ?
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:30 am

Of the incidents reported on reply 8, the loss of the hydro air cargo in 2003 is recorded on www.aviation-safety.net, and I recall the AF incident at Port Harcourt.

The attempt to clear bush with petrol, resulting in a lack of fuel for the fire engines was recorded on a mini series called Lagos Airport some years ago.
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:37 am

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 8):
There's also the story of an entire KLM cabin crew being abducted when they were in the crew van. All were released following payment of ransom, but they all came hope carrying HIV. Yes, both the girls and the boys had been raped by their abductors who knew they were HIV positive.

Really? Raped and everyone - male and female - got HIV?

Unless you have valid sources, this just sounds like another load of exaggerated BS.
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:44 am

LOS-LHR is a 6 hour 15 minute flight and can easily support for BA, a daily A380 service across all cabin classes considering that the UK-LOS market segment alone in 2013 was 550K pax in total. The Nigerian high yield customer market segment is very status symbol conscious and they would flock to BA if it brought the A380 to LOS daily. BA too get a fair bit of trans-atlantic connecting traffic from USA and YYZ bound to LOS to act as feeder support when required. However, first the infrastructure at LOS airport needs to be upgraded to handle an A380 across many fronts and that will take a couple of years minimum for that to happen. In West Africa, currently the only airport that is A380 compatible as far as I know is Abidjan, Ivory Coast !

As another example, remember last SEP when VS announced pulling out of ACC, BA immediately announced increasing the route from daily to 11 weekly nonstop flights i.e. daily B744 + 4 weekly B763ER as the demand is there i.e. ACC-UK in 2013 was 240K pax alone + BA geta a lot of feed from USA for its additional 4 weekly flights especially from JFK (0800 dep JFK-LHR service which connects to the 2200 LHR-ACC flight).

In addition, I have been living in LOS since June 2013 and can state that during the day time, it is very safe for expats to even walk the roads which I frequently do without getting harassed or abducted. However after sunset, its an entirely different ball game altogether.

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Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:48 am

Quoting behramjee (Reply 28):

Well that's what I thought.

( I don't know where I got under 5 hours from I think I was remembering CAI on the 744. )
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:53 am

In my opinion, the quite short sector length doesn´t mean the aircraft could not operate LHR-LOS profitably. Other airlines use the A380 on much shorter flights (EK to KWI or JED, KE to HKG) and it seems to make sense for them. But, after two recent visits to Lagos, this airport is quite a disaster and even boarding aircraft the size of a 340 or 747 gets the boarding lounge very crowded and messy...
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:02 am

Quoting VV701 (Reply 21):
Another possibility is SIN. But with the 77W flight going on to SYD I think this is less likely. Perhaps IAH or DFW might also be in the frame even though they are slightly shorter.

BA11 (LHR-SIN) will be 3x weekly A380 and 4x weekly 747 from 28th October.

BA15 (LHR-SIN-SYD) will remain on the 777-300.
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:55 am

Quoting behramjee (Reply 28):
However after sunset, its an entirely different ball game altogether.

Sure there is crime everywhere, and I've been lucky not to have been a victim, but I felt more safe in Lagos than I do in Johannesburg. Day or night.

In the 3 years I have been there, I haven't heard of any expat being abducted from Lagos. Port Harcourt yes, but Lagos no.
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:21 am

Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 22):
The fact that two of them are enormous OW markets and SFO fills seats like it's their job.

SFO is currently served by 2 Mid J 747's, they would need to cut the service back to one A380 to satisfy the low demand for the premium CW cabin, I don't see that happening at all.
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:27 am

Even thinking there is a problem with anything to do with LOS or Nigeria is racist. It has to be safe! Look at all the oil companies doing business there. Do you think these companies would put their own employees in danger?
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:29 am

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 23):
Instead you post high levels of lying. Why even make up these outrageous lies? Do you get enjoyment out of it? It was bad enough your story is a figment of your imagination, but you had to add even more disgusting lies on top of that about a scientific impossibility of every kidnapped victim getting infected with HIV. What is wrong with some people?


The story was relayed to me by a former station manager in LOS. I trust this person more than you, so with that feel free to exit stage left.

As an airline employee of a couple of decades, which I guess is more than you'll ever be able to claim, my concern is for my fellow crew members, regardless of which company pay their salaries. As such I certainly don't derive any joy knowing what happened to these crew members.

I've been to LOS more times than I care to remember, have you ever set foot on the dark continent?
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:29 am

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 35):
The story was relayed to me by a former station manager in LOS. I trust this person more than you, so with that feel free to exit stage left.

Yes very objective source - "some guy told me.."

If your bogus story was indeed true, there would have been a huge media outcry about it. Think about it, a bus load of air stewards getting gang-raped by a bunch of savage HIV-infected Nigerians? Come on mayne, the international media would have been all over this.
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:33 am

Quoting Johnwaynebobbet (Reply 33):
SFO is currently served by 2 Mid J 747's, they would need to cut the service back to one A380 to satisfy the low demand for the premium CW cabin, I don't see that happening at all.

The BA287 is a high J (70 seats) at the moment with the BA285 a low J (52 seats), in the winter schedule its 2 high J 747s.
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:00 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 34):
Even thinking there is a problem with anything to do with LOS or Nigeria is racist.

You ought to let both the British and Nigerian governments know.

Here is part of the UK governments advice to travellers to Nigeria:


'The FCO [Foreign and Commonwealth Office] advise against all but essential travel to all areas of Kano State, Kaduna State, Jigawa State, Katsina State, Sokoto State, Zamfara State, Kebbi State and the Okene region of Kogi State where there has been an increase in violent attacks, Jos City, and the Riyom and Barkin Ladi Local Government Areas in Plateau State where violent attacks and ongoing inter-communal tensions can lead to outbreaks of violence.'


There is a state of emergency declared by the Nigerian government in three states, namely Borno, Yobe and Adamawa.

While none of this applies to Lagos all these states / areas are in Nigeria. What does apply to Lagos is this undated report of a British businessman being kidnapped. However it might be quite old and the report calls the occurrence 'rare':


http://www.tvcnews.tv/?q=article/nig...itish-businessman-kidnapped-lagos.
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:08 pm

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 8):

There's also the story of an entire KLM cabin crew being abducted when they were in the crew van. All were released following payment of ransom, but they all came hope carrying HIV. Yes, both the girls and the boys had been raped by their abductors who knew they were HIV positive.

Animals. I don't know why anyone would want to send a plane here and risk bringing these kind of people back to their homeland.
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:26 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 34):

Even thinking there is a problem with anything to do with LOS or Nigeria is racist. It has to be safe! Look at all the oil companies doing business there. Do you think these companies would put their own employees in danger?

This has to be some sort of joke. Surely. Just because it's an issue in Africa doesn't automatically mean it's racist. Speaking as a South African, Nigeria is definitely one of the "safer" countries on the continent, but it ain't no Switzerland.

And as for the oil companies... Well, they send their employees into a lot of potentially dangerous places. A lot of professions do. It's how the world works. They just have plans in place to protect those employees. Or they should, at least.
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:24 pm

All crews and indeed any expat working for a reputable company will receive armed escorts in front and behind the car he/she is in (called 'protocol') from the airport to their hotel/accommodation, arranged by their companies.

That makes Lagos sound horribly dangerous, but it's just the way it is done in Lagos. There are things you don't question and just accept. Enjoy the ride.

But from personal experience I can say that one is much more likely to die in a car accident or on the road than by any other crime related activity.

So back to the topic and a repeat of the question: Apart from all the things that has been said, is the airport 'officially' A380 ready?
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:10 pm

Quoting PEK777 (Reply 39):
Animals. I don't know why anyone would want to send a plane here and risk bringing these kind of people back to their homeland.

We have a lot of Nigerians in the United States. People say that Nigeria is one of the most corrupt nations on earth, but the United States doesn't seem to have any problems with it or its people.

Quoting DexSwart (Reply 40):
This has to be some sort of joke. Surely. Just because it's an issue in Africa doesn't automatically mean it's racist.

Here in the U.S. the PC thought police have taught us that any thought that is negative at all towards Africa or it's people is just being racist and by that token makes you a racist too. After all, they are just like us!
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:53 pm

It's a shame how far this thread has sunk.
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:17 pm

I have no direct knowledge of Africa.

However the assertion that companies would not send staff to a place that is unsafe is incorrect.

Back in 1978, my employer wanted me to go to NI to collect some money.

The customer was in South Armagh, then known as "Bandit Country".

This was just after Warrenpoint, when the Army lost 20 men in a single attack in that area.

In answer to the obvious question, "no, they did not point out the risks of going", and no, I did not go.
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:36 pm

http://flynaija.org/our-airport-can-...aft-chairman-ibom-airport-project/

According to this interview LOS can 'conveniently handle A380 aircraft'. I'm not too sure about the source though.
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:33 pm

An on-duty Federal Air Marshal was stabbed with a syringe containing an unknown substance at the airport in Lagos, Nigeria, on Sunday.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...yringe-nigeria-flies-texas-n198691
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:47 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 42):
We have a lot of Nigerians in the United States. People say that Nigeria is one of the most corrupt nations on earth, but the United States doesn't seem to have any problems with it or its people.

Nigeria has also recently become the largest economy in Africa, overtaking South Africa. Lots of money to be made there, regardless of the corruption and crime issues.
 
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:30 am

Quoting max999 (Reply 46):
An on-duty Federal Air Marshal was stabbed with a syringe containing an unknown substance at the airport in Lagos, Nigeria, on Sunday.


I remember a few years ago in airports in the U.S. near security check points they used to have signs indicating that the U.S. government does not recommend travel to Lagos, Nigeria because the airport does not meet U.S. security standards. Are those signs still around or has Lagos improved their airport security program?
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RE: BA A380 To LOS?

Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:39 am

Quoting type-rated (Reply 48):
I remember a few years ago in airports in the U.S. near security check points they used to have signs indicating that the U.S. government does not recommend travel to Lagos, Nigeria because the airport does not meet U.S. security standards. Are those signs still around or has Lagos improved their airport security program?

According to the State Department ...

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The Department of State warns U.S. citizens of the risks of travel to Nigeria and recommends that U.S. citizens avoid all travel to Adamawa, Borno, and Yobe states because of the May 14, 2013 state of emergency proclamation for those three states by the Government of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. The security situation in the country remains fluid and unpredictable. The U.S. Department of State strongly urges U.S. citizens in Nigeria to keep personal safety and health in the forefront of their planning.

However, it appears they have no specific issues with Lagos Airport.

Quote:
The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has assessed the government of Nigeria’s Civil Aviation Authority as being in compliance with International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) aviation safety standards for oversight of Nigeria’s’s air carrier operations.

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