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Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:47 am

Here is the continuation of this discussion:

Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures (by BravoEchoNov Sep 6 2014 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:54 am

This is what I have to say about SWA's new livery:

It looks like SWA merged with Hotdog On A Stick
and assumed their branding....
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:05 am

Quoting Jamake1 (Reply 1):
It looks like SWA merged with Hotdog On A Stick
and assumed their branding....

I thought the coloring looked a little familar.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:09 am

I totally want the customer facing employees to wear Hotdog on a Stick style uniforms now. That would be awesome.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:13 am

Quoting Prost (Reply 206):
Southwest is beginning a new era in their corporate life (remember, corporations are people

With all due respect, I've got to disagree with you there.

Corporations are bricks. The bricks don't love you, and you can't love the bricks back. Companies are in business to gain as much of any given market possible, at the highest price the market will bear, in pursuit of increasing shareholder value and giving the highest return possible on invested capital back to its owners. Anything else is simply an illusion to gain those ends.
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:19 am

Their old liveries were classy and intelligently designed. This new one looks like a kid with crayons designed it. So basic and bland. The entire fuselage just plain blue? Big white SOUTHWEST billboard titles and nothing else? Yuck. They could have just changed the blue color of the existing livery and it would have been much better. But once again marketing departments and MBA grads are obsessed with brand identity and marketing campaigns.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:22 am

It looks like a cargo airline to me. Just something about makes me think that It should be on one of the many cargo stands in MIA.
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:27 am

Come on guys give them a break, at least it isn't all white!
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:32 am

I never really cared for the whole canyon blue thing anyway. I like this new scheme.
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:37 am

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/192585/php0bFFwM.jpeg

I like it! Bold lettering for identification of the brand, retention of the old colors (well, yellow instead of orange), and no orange underbelly (which I never liked). They will look good flying into HOU.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:37 am

Major +++ for a non-Eurowhite livery. You will still be able to spot an SWA plane at 10NM.

I happen to like it better than the current livery. Not by a lot, but better by a little bit. Certainly could have done better.
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:00 am

As I've said several times during this discussion, I'm no fan of the current livery, but getting rid of the red underbody is just wrong. As for "at least it's not Eurowhite".... WN liveries have NEVER included that. Kind of irrelevant. Still not a step forward, IMO.
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:09 am

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 11):
WN liveries have NEVER included that. Kind of irrelevant

I respectfully disagree on the relevance. Many airlines' colorschemes never included EuroWhite, until they did. Many recent brand-refreshes have included a new EuroWhite livery that has been badly-received on A.Nut, so we should be relieved that Southwest did not follow the same path as many recent brand-refreshes.

     
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:17 am

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 11):
WN liveries have NEVER included that. Kind of irrelevant.

It wasn't relevant for many airlines, until their fuselages were Eurowhite...
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:32 am

Quoting MesaFlyGuy (Reply 12):

Nothing worse than that MU refresh that put me in a coma
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:42 am

Quoting jetblue1965 (Reply 14):

I don't even classify that as a livery anymore.
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:50 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 4):
Corporations are bricks. The bricks don't love you, and you can't love the bricks back. Companies are in business to gain as much of any given market possible, at the highest price the market will bear, in pursuit of increasing shareholder value and giving the highest return possible on invested capital back to its owners. Anything else is simply an illusion to gain those ends.

And with this new livery rollout, the brick just made relations with its employees that are still in labor negotiations much, much more difficult. It's hard to plead poverty when you're committing to rolling out an entirely new brand initiative.
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:56 am

Side by side:

http://i.imgur.com/tB5iImd.png
http://i.imgur.com/0kUb7QP.png

My best guess on the -700:

http://i.imgur.com/Hxrw9c1.png
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:12 am

It looks even more cartoonish, gaudy, and tacky in the side by side. Make it stop!!!
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:13 am

Another tail that means NOTHING, by the way. I'm so utterly sick of lines and geometric shapes.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:33 am

Part of me believes this could be a special one off livery on two planes.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:34 am

The colors on the tail look like ketchup & mustard, though this new livery is still better than an all-white livery.

[Edited 2014-09-07 20:55:18]
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:40 am

The font proves this is a rebranding, not a one-off or special livery. Its growing on me quickly. I like it better than Canyon Blue scheme for sure. I also like the darker shade of blue. I would suspect in the next day that the website will be refreshed with the new branding.

It took much longer for AA to grow on me, still think the flag tail for AA is a bit much on small airframes but it looks darn nice on the 77W.
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:41 am

I suppose if they wanted to update the current font for SOUTHWEST on the plane, or even moved that to the new position, fine. But the red belly had a nice blend in with the tail.

Maybe there will be a new theme, hot dogs fly free! Free ketchup and mustard!
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:41 am

I think the new livery is pretty cool.

Does anyone know if it will include an interior update?
When they went to Canyon blue the interior changed also.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:46 am

PS - if it was paint shop/repair station employees that leaked the photo they should be fired.
The repair station should be embarrassed for lack of discipline.

I have represented at Boeing and numerous repair stations - and livery changes were never leaked like this.
What a shame.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:53 am

Quoting 7673mech (Reply 25):
PS - if it was paint shop/repair station employees that leaked the photo they should be fired.
The repair station should be embarrassed for lack of discipline.

I have represented at Boeing and numerous repair stations - and livery changes were never leaked like this.
What a shame.

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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:59 am

What happened to the orange? And why not keep the red belly!?
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:08 am

Quoting 7673mech (Reply 24):
Does anyone know if it will include an interior update?

Actually, they could go back to their very first interior from 1971. (See second and third photos.)  

All the seats back then were either red, yellow or blue.

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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:15 am

She'll be leaving VCV in just a few hours for DAL.
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:46 am

I just keep thinking Fruit Stripe gum every time I see it...and I can't un-see that.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:48 am

Couple more thoughts...

I wonder why they felt the need to move the titles from the tail. The 737 tails are often the only part of the planes visible from inside and outside (some) airport terminals.

I'm surprised how wild this is considering the effort to transform their image to look more professional. For example, it's the complete opposite of the changes to employee uniforms. I've heard and read a lot of comments saying it looks like it's designed for a kindergarten class. Ouch...

Why do airlines all feel the need for billboard titles? And why can't an airline come up with a nice, sharp-looking paint scheme that is unique instead of an obvious attemp to stick to modern trends? Every time I see an airline change their scheme I think, really? That's the best you could come up with? Or in some cases, what were they thinking??

I don't hate this new scheme. But it will take some getting used to and I'll miss the current one.
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:53 am

Wouldn't it be epic if the "leaked" livery/colors were a great, exotic ruse? Can you imagine if something came out of the blue looking totally different? I'm not holding my breath, but it would be pretty cool!

I can only think back to the 1980s and the aviation industry's fascination with the stealth fighter. Conceptional drawings were out, models made, and when finally made public with a grainy image and a very short video, the airplane looked totally different than everybody outside "the know" expected!

Unlikely, but we can dream....

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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:55 am

It will be interesting to see how that "darker" blue holds up to fading.

[Edited 2014-09-07 22:04:16]
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:38 am

Oh gosh . . . not a good look at all, I'm afraid.      
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:54 am

Taking the brand into modern times - long overdue.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:02 am

Quoting 7673mech (Reply 24):

There will be no interior update.. The current "Evolve" interior fits this livery just fine..

The -700 in the "new" livery looks kinda neat!
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:13 am

Where the heck did my "red belly" go? Now what do we call ourselves. In house we were red belly airlines, we had red belly radio. Now what? BK airlines??? LOL.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:18 am

And people are bashing AA's new livery, have they seen this? The ugliest livery in USA just got even more ugly. I guess that's progress of some kind... That's just awful!
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:18 am

I for one am getting REALLY tired of seeing .com branding on airplanes these days.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:39 am

If they would've made they yellow the same color as their mustard rocket plane, it would look so much better and scream SWA. By retro jet I mean the one with the shiny brown-gold scheme that's based on the original one but isnt, for lack of a better word, "flat". And make the titles the same size and font as it was on the tail and make them the same brown/gold I suggested. That would look good.   
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:49 am

I have always liked that the Southwest titling was only on the aircraft tail and not the fuselage.

I'm not a fan of the yellow. I think the orange looks so much better.

Looks like they've updated southwest.com... blue, red, yellow heart. I guess we're going to be seeing more of the heart also.

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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:49 am

Well? It's different!! I'm not at all sure it's better, But it IS different!
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:05 am

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 38):
Now what? BK airlines??? LOL.

Maybe we will finally have things OUR way  
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:24 am

I think they did a fairly good job here. It definitely has an LCC "fun" feel to it, and it will really stand out. On the other hand, the primary colors look somewhat childish and the white titling on blue is very reminiscent of Sun Country. I wish they would have added some more sophisticated touches by using secondary-color accents or doing something with the tail other than just bringing it down the tail, which is getting pretty tiresome. It has a very Texas feel to it while also being rather generic (perhaps that's a Texas thing), which both harks to the brand's roots while moving beyond it. Overall a B-.
 
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:32 am

Check out the website. All new design with all new "Southwest" logo and heart incorporated.



[Edited 2014-09-08 00:33:15]
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:40 am

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 46):
Check out the website.

LOL, except still the Canyon Blue livery on the plane. Hope someone Photoshops that sooner than later.
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:05 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 47):
except still the Canyon Blue livery on the plane. Hope someone Photoshops that sooner than later.

And it's a -300.  
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RE: Southwest Airlines New Livery Pictures Part 2

Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:41 am

Quoting AirCalSNA (Reply 45):
the primary colors look somewhat childish

Exaclty. The orange and mustard of the original livery were unique. This looks like it's been designed by a child with a basic 6-crayon box of Crayola. I can't imagine WN without the orange. And where does all this white come from when there was none before? Not only in the title (hideous), but also in the separations between colors in the tail (they were in non-primary yellow before). And why did they get rid of the titles in the tail? All in all, I truly dislike this livery (while I'm starting to like AA's more and more).
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