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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:42 am

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 49):

My next guess is that CPT will see the BA A380 sooner rather than later. Not saying it will be before MIA but I would not be surprised given that VS has dropped the route, BA is now the only airline flying direct year round.

Personally I doubt it, BA might increase flights, don't they run 2 flights in the NW 1 744, 1 772?! Maybe run 2 744s instead, I think they did before. While the savings of the A380s would be good on a long flight I think they have other places to send them.

I think other than whats been announced so far officially MIA could be it for now, maybe 2 daily to HKG. So once all 12 are in service.

LAX 14 weekly
HKG 14 weekly
SIN Daily
JNB Daily
SFO Daily
IAD Daily
MIA Daily

Maybe a little tight for 12 frames, some routes might vary a little in NW with less flights mainly LAX/HKG.

I no nothing about BA though.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:58 am

Quoting laca773 (Reply 32):
Remember LHR T5 only has so much space for A380s. As it is now, how many international flights are having to dock at hard stands/bus gates?

Well there are plans to build a T5D satellite eventually and I'm sure these will contain A380 capable stands. There are also four stands at T5B that can take the A380 but i'm not sure if the bridge that normally connects to door 2L can reach the upper deck.
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:19 am

I know it would blow the economics out the water and tie up too many airframes for too long but on another planet would have liked to see one on SIN/SYDNEY.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:40 am

In addition to the A380 to SFO, BA has announced it will continue it's winter 17x weekly flights to/from MIA for the first five weeks of the summer season, from March 30-May 2. Further changes are likely.
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:08 pm

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 49):

But its the belly load that limits the 380's attractiveness. BA is the only non-stop carrier CPT/LHR so is picking up more freight (and more pax). The route will probably see more frequency when optimum yield capacity is determined.
 
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:28 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 53):
In addition to the A380 to SFO, BA has announced it will continue it's winter 17x weekly flights to/from MIA for the first five weeks of the summer season, from March 30-May 2. Further changes are likely.

Why do we always have to go off on a tangent about MIA ? If you're keen about MIA, open its own thread.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:24 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 45):

"Congrats" until you arrive on the AF A380 right after the EK A380 and maybe a few other 77Ws. Have fun at customs!

No kidding. Will be similar to what happens every morning over on the United G side when 5 747s from Asia show up around the same time.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:58 pm

Quoting by738 (Reply 37):
oh no what will happen to my direct First lounge access ?

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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:17 pm

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 49):
My next guess is that CPT will see the BA A380 sooner rather than later. Not saying it will be before MIA but I would not be surprised given that VS has dropped the route, BA is now the only airline flying direct year round.

I'd say the opposite. Its a route under price pressure from EK/TK not to mention it is a predominantly leisure route with poor aircraft utilisation. KL/EK/TK etc don't have an aircraft sitting on the ground all day where as BA/SA and VS all did.

In the past year we have seen SAA drop their non stop LHR-CPT and now VS dropping LHR-CPT.

When SAA pulled out their were discussion about other airlines increasing frequency to CPT but now we have actually seen the opposite with VS pulling out.

I think the UK-SA market is pretty much owned by the ME3 these days in addition to TK. I looked at doinga one way miles booking and rev ticket home and TK were offering CPT-LHR for 170 quid! You cant make money on that.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:45 pm

Quoting jetblue1965 (Reply 55):

No. Simply no. People were talking about it here. No need to open a new thread. People were talking about BA's next A380 route, so I added that note because it can be a good sign. Now maybe CPT is good candidate as well. They too have been increased by BA.
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:52 pm

Quoting as739x (Reply 35):

Quoting bharathkv (Reply 19):
SQ 1/2 was flown by A380 sometime around december of 2012.

It was just a holiday upguage.

Right but SQ never brought it back for the following year. There could be two reasons:
1. SQ did not get the load it was expecting.
2. The following year (2013) holiday was not having as many passengers as 2012.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:29 pm

Quoting glbltrvlr (Reply 56):

Whenever I take the late BA LAX flight which is an A380 it sometimes lands about 5 minutes after or before China Southern A380 from CAN. Immigration is then a nightmare.

A380's not good for foreign arrivals at airports.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:39 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 59):
No. Simply no. People were talking about it here. No need to open a new thread. People were talking about BA's next A380 route, so I added that note because it can be a good sign. Now maybe CPT is good candidate as well. They too have been increased by BA.

But you were talking about just generic frequency increase of BA to MIA, which is a separate topic from whether the A380 will go there. That to me is an off-topic tangent.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:54 pm

Quoting bharathkv (Reply 60):
Right but SQ never brought it back for the following year. There could be two reasons:
1. SQ did not get the load it was expecting.
2. The following year (2013) holiday was not having as many passengers as 2012.

They are probably protecting yields. There are three carriers on this route with four daily nonstops. SQ always seems to be priced well above UA and slightly above CX. Additionally, SQ provides double-daily direct service to SIN from SFO, the other flight through ICN.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:16 pm

Will this BA A380 flight only be a summer thing or will it continue into the Winter schedule? On a side note, I was reading Bay Area travel and BA eluded to a change of gauge to a possible 77W in the future to take over for one of their 744 flights.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:30 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 45):
"Congrats" until you arrive on the AF A380 right after the EK A380 and maybe a few other 77Ws. Have fun at customs!


How is that any different to a multitude of A380s or B748s or B744s or B77Ws arriving at any number of airports worldwide?

Seems like needless A380 bashing; too many people conveniently forget that most A380s are premium heavy and we are yet to see a 600+ seat config anywhere.

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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:46 pm

Quoting blueshamu330s (Reply 65):

How is that any different to a multitude of A380s or B728s or B744s or B77Ws arriving at any number of airports worldwide?

The difference is that there is a natural variability that occurs when multiple aircraft arrive. The more aircraft, the more variability in passengers, the wider the bell curve on passenger numbers at any given time. Since the A380 has the highest individual passenger count, that's different than multiple aircraft adding up to the same number of passengers. I.e. the peak is higher.

Doesn't mean airports won't adapt with larger halls and more staffing, but it will take a while.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:19 am

Quoting anstar (Reply 58):
I think the UK-SA market is pretty much owned by the ME3 these days in addition to TK. I looked at doinga one way miles booking and rev ticket home and TK were offering CPT-LHR for 170 quid! You cant make money on that.

Low fares can be a sign of desperation.

CAA data show that direct flights between LHR and CPT, the route in question, have recently been doing very well.

There was solid growth of 5 per cent in the number of passengers flying this route in April. Numbers increased from 23.335 in 2013 to 24,548 this year.

Last May there was outstanding growth of 27 per cent from 18,029 in 2013 to 22,053 passengers.

June was almost as good when passenger numbers grew from 18,025 to 22,540, a growth of 25 per cent.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:08 am

Quoting VV701 (Reply 67):

Low fares can be a sign of desperation.

CAA data show that direct flights between LHR and CPT, the route in question, have recently been doing very well.

There was solid growth of 5 per cent in the number of passengers flying this route in April. Numbers increased from 23.335 in 2013 to 24,548 this year.

Last May there was outstanding growth of 27 per cent from 18,029 in 2013 to 22,053 passengers.

June was almost as good when passenger numbers grew from 18,025 to 22,540, a growth of 25 per cent.

I don't doubt for 1 minute that you can fill up a plane LHR-CPT. Virgin's & SAA's flights were always busy if not full. They just couldn't make it profitable with the poor utilisation of airframes and attack on yields from the ME3 and TK.

VS think they can get a better ROI from using that frame that would be away from base for 36 hours on a rotation to say DTW where it can be back at base within 24 hours and deliver a better profit.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:12 am

Quoting anstar (Reply 68):

I would imagine BA are highly profitable with non stop A380 service to JNB and profitable with non stop to CPT.

They wouldn't be going double daily to CPT if they were not.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:06 am

Quoting 1400mph (Reply 69):

They wouldn't be going double daily to CPT if they were not.

Pretty sure they do double daily CPT in NW every year don't they?! I've no idea if its profitable or not but now there will be no competition at all non stop so I'd think they probably do ok. Just poor utilization unless you run a daylight in one direction which isn't popular with business travelers.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:21 am

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 70):

Well VS has publicly stated they will return to dropped markets should a 3rd runway be built at LHR. Them dropping CPT is all about DL and where they can make the 'most' money given the size of the VS operation.

BA in real terms has shrunk long haul capacity over the years since the late 1990's when compared to traffic increases at LHR.

BA long ago factored in the impact of the ME3 east bound hence the very conservative wide body orders. They have been very good at judging the size of the market that is prepared to pay premiums (particularly in business and first) for non stop flights.

VS failure in certain markets is more to do with management failure than the impact of the ME3.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:29 am

Quoting glbltrvlr (Reply 56):
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 45):

"Congrats" until you arrive on the AF A380 right after the EK A380 and maybe a few other 77Ws. Have fun at customs!

No kidding. Will be similar to what happens every morning over on the United G side when 5 747s from Asia show up around the same time.

Do they not know they are coming then?

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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:05 am

Reply 71


BA long ago factored in the impact of the ME3 east bound hence the very conservative wide body orders. They have been very good at judging the size of the market that is prepared to pay premiums (particularly in business and first) for non stop flights.

Good point. I guess Heathrow/BA can be Dubai/E 'North' on the same/similar meridian line.Just a question of where (how far South/ South East) the line is drawn. I suspect the battle ground is/will be India. But again I guess it depend where in America one is flying from.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:21 am

Quoting parapente (Reply 73):

I don't know that it really matters.

BA will just adjust to any outcome be that growth or downsizing.

That said I don't think BA are by any means presently over exposed in any market due to the nature of LHR both in restricting capacity and providing immune O&D.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:32 am

Quoting 1400mph (Reply 61):
A380's not good for foreign arrivals at airports.

They can be just fine... The airports wanting to accept them have to update their facilities to deal with the increase in capacity. Simple as that.
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:54 am

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 70):

They have 3 x 744 for a week or so in early Jan 2015. One of which goes back to London as a daylight flight.
I agree the daylight flights are not popular with businessman. They are also an issue for tourists as there are limited connections ex LHR. I lot of the CPTLHR traffic is connecting to the US and Europe. I'm not sure that a 380 would be a good option at present, it is quite premium heavy. I would say it makes more sense to pay the 744's higher fuel bill and not have a 380 sitting in CPT for 12 hours. But, having said all that I would love to see a BA 380 in CPT.
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:26 pm

Quoting 1400mph (Reply 61):

it cant be much worse than three or four 747s that often arrive in the evening together in MIA or JFK- its equally a shambles in those scenarios
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:38 pm

Quoting 1400mph (Reply 71):
Them dropping CPT is all about DL and where they can make the 'most' money given the size of the VS operation.

What does this mean, that DL wants them to only operate profitable routes or something to do with DL serving the market?

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 75):
The airports wanting to accept them have to update their facilities to deal with the increase in capacity. Simple as that.

Well the airport facility is one thing the staffing by government departments is another - Customs and Immigration -.
Government departments and their staff are usually not at accomodating doing peak hour staffing, overlapping shifts could solve the problem.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:07 pm

Quoting par13del (Reply 78):
What does this mean, that DL wants them to only operate profitable routes or something to do with DL serving the market?

Well, umm.....yes.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:34 pm

Quoting by738 (Reply 77):

I think a lot of it depends on whether folk possess and have correctly completed the appropriate documentation.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:37 pm

Quoting 1400mph (Reply 79):
Well, umm.....yes.

Yes to which one, the route being profitable for VS or DL somehow wanting to get the rights to fly pax from LHR to a third country?

Your post seemed to be negative towards DL hence the reason for the question.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:45 pm

Quoting par13del (Reply 81):

No not at all.

DL are out to make money. They'll make more of it by increasing exposure to LHR through VS.

Fair play.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:05 pm

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 15):
Interesting...IAD, SIN, JNB, SFO all non-oneworld hubs.

That is not surprising at all. BA has a habit of not trying to outshine its partners at their homes. Case in point, they didn't even fly to Australia until QF decided to get in bed with EK. Another example: only 2 daily flights to HKG against CX's 5 daily.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 45):

"Congrats" until you arrive on the AF A380 right after the EK A380 and maybe a few other 77Ws. Have fun at customs!

That is a problem at any U.S. gateway regardless of what plane you fly in and it has nothing to do with the airport or the type of equipment, and everything to do with our non-scalable and paranoid immigration procedures.

Quoting blueshamu330s (Reply 65):
How is that any different to a multitude of A380s or B748s or B744s or B77Ws arriving at any number of airports worldwide?

Have you ever cleared immigration in the U.S. ?

Quoting 1400mph (Reply 80):

I think a lot of it depends on whether folk possess and have correctly completed the appropriate documentation.

There is no documentation to complete anymore, unless you're talking about the trivial customs form. The problem is the time it takes to process each individual passenger. Number of processing agents has not increased proportionally to the number of visitors or amount of per passenger processing time. As a result, immigration lines are getting longer while the government pockets the additional revenue.
 
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Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:22 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 83):
Case in point, they didn't even fly to Australia until QF decided to get in bed with EK

I don't understand.......?
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:32 pm

BA A380 service changes:

LAX - A380 operates 12 of 14 weekly flights in Winter 2014/15 season. 11 weekly from February 9th.

SIN - A380 operates 3 times a week from October 29, remains unchanged. Daily from February 9th.

IAD - A380 increases from 5 weekly to daily.
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:44 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 83):
Case in point, they didn't even fly to Australia until QF decided to get in bed with EK.

What?? BA have been flying to Oz for decades. At one point they operated to SYD, MEL, BNE, ADL, PER (and maybe others I have missed). These were then gradually whittled down to the current SYD, in large part due to the (now defunct) joint business with QF and the creation of oneworld.
 
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Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:31 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 83):
As a result, immigration lines are getting longer while the government pockets the additional revenue.

Does make you wonder where all these people are coming from since everyone knows that since the USA went paraniod on security folks ceased travelling to the USA.  


I have been in MIA old immigration hall when BA first flight from LHR arrived in the early afternoon, around that time there are also a number of other arrivals, forms are the least of anyone's concerns, the number of people is just high.
I have been through the new hall but my arrival time was late in the evening much less people so cannot comment on how it is during peak hours in terms of staffing. We do know that politicians in Miami did protest to Homeland Security and later received a promise that more officers would be deployed.
Hopefully our MIA friends can chime in on how the situation is now.
 
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Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:38 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 85):
BA A380 service changes:

LAX - A380 operates 12 of 14 weekly flights in Winter 2014/15 season. 11 weekly from February 9th.

BA is very good about adjusting capacity according to demand. They will definitely not send 2x daily A380 in the LAX market in the winter. That would be a financial mess to fly it less than half full on the slow days of the week.
 
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Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:22 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 83):
Case in point, they didn't even fly to Australia until QF decided to get in bed with EK.


Imperial Airways / BOAC / British Airways have been flying to Australia since July 1938 with a short break early on caused by a guy called Hitler.

Over those almost 80 years they have flown first from Southampton Water and later London Heathrow. They operated variously to Adelaide, Brisbane, Melbourne and Perth (sometimes as add-ons) and, of course, Sydney. However they now only fly to Sydney.

British Airways are the last remaining of thirteen European airlines that, at one time or another, have flown to Australia. The peak period for these services were the mid 1990s when the European carriers on the Kangaroo Route were AOM, Aeroflot, Air France, KLM, Lufthansa and Olympic as well as British Airways.

Today British Airways code shares with Cathay Pacific on flights between Hong Kong and Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth and Sydney as well as operating a 77W flight Heathrow - Singapore - Sydney.
 
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Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:35 pm

Quoting aviatorcraig (Reply 72):
Do they not know they are coming then?

Poor US customs people, they must be taken by suprise every morning

From the lines and waits in customs, you'd think so.
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:40 pm

Quoting 1400mph (Reply 84):

I don't understand.......?

What he said.

Quoting RTFM (Reply 86):

What?? BA have been flying to Oz for decades. At one point they operated to SYD, MEL, BNE, ADL, PER (and maybe others I have missed). These were then gradually whittled down to the current SYD, in large part due to the (now defunct) joint business with QF and the creation of oneworld.

Fine, nitpick all you want but my point still stands and the point is that while they were cozy with QF they had only a token presence in Australia which is insignificant relative to the huge size of the market and it's still to this day all they have.

Quoting VV701 (Reply 89):
Today British Airways code shares with Cathay Pacific on flights between Hong Kong and Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth and Sydney as well as operating a 77W flight Heathrow - Singapore - Sydney.

You're just reinforcing my point. Over the years BA has been very reluctant to upstage its partners in their home markets so I don't see that changing with regards to MIA any time soon.
 
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Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:06 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 90):
From the lines and waits in customs, you'd think so.

Amen. Although I wouldn't lay all the problems on Customs & Immigration. On the United side at SFO they routinely understaff the ground organization. I've bypassed the crowd by using Global Entry and then waited an hour for my bag to show up on the belt. Unless TSA is scanning incoming hold bags, that's all on United.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:23 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 91):
You're just reinforcing my point.

Please do not misrepresent me. Your point that I was very clearly responding to was

Quoting airbazar (Reply 83):
Case in point, they [BA] didn't even fly to Australia until QF decided to get in bed with EK.

This is clearly totally wrong. Indeed the very first Emirates flight was in March 1985. At that time Imperial Airways and their successors BOAC and British Airways had been flying to Australia for almost 47 years since 26 June 1938 (save during World War II).

So it is very clear that British Airways did NOT start flying to Australia when Qantas got into bed with Emirates only 18 months ago on 31 March last year. Indeed for the 17 years prior to that both British Airways and Qantas operated between Europe and Australia in partnership and alongside each other under their Joint Services Agreement, an agreement that has proved to be the model for the three North Atlantic ATI JVs.
 
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Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:21 am

Quoting airbazar (Reply 83):
Case in point, they didn't even fly to Australia until QF decided to get in bed with EK.
Quoting VV701 (Reply 89):
Imperial Airways / BOAC / British Airways have been flying to Australia since July 1938 with a short break early on caused by a guy called Hitler.

BA did not fly to Australia until 1949. The service since 1934 - 1938 was a joint thru service with Q.A.N.T.A.S. From 1938 ( introduction of S23 aircraft) to 1949 it was a joint service where BA contributed 2/3 of the capacity (ie aircraft) and QF 1/3. The aircraft operated thru from Australia to the UK, the crews did not. The flights were QF operated SYD-SIN and BA operated SIN-LON. As VV701 said there was a lot of disruption 1939-1949 due to WWII and its aftermath. In 1949 both airlines operated their own aircraft Australia - UK, although ALWAYS in some sort of partnership arrangement to this day.

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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:42 am

My guess is that BA now flying the A388 to SFO could be a harbinger of the beginning of the end of the 747-400 in BA service. I would not be surprised that BA does a fairly large combined 78J/A35J order--maybe 35-40 planes--by 2017 that will finally send the BA 744's to retirement.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:40 am

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 95):
My guess is that BA now flying the A388 to SFO could be a harbinger of the beginning of the end of the 747-400 in BA service.

Probably not.

On 4 September BA announced that 18 of its 744s would get what it called a 'refresh'. This will include new seat cushions and covers in the W and Y cabins and new carpets and curtains throughout. More significantly this 'refresh' will also involve the installation of the Panasonic eX3 Entertainment System in all seats.

BA added that these updates would not start until August next year. They have since said that this 'refresh' on all 18 aircraft will take about 12 months to complete.

I doubt that BA would go to the expense of installing a new entertainment system in a 744 as late as the summer of 2016 if they were not planning to operate the aircraft concerned into the 2020s.

Here is their Press Release:

http://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/...rticleType=LatestNews#.VBOmcM90zIU
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:32 am

Quoting VV701 (Reply 96):

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 95):
My guess is that BA now flying the A388 to SFO could be a harbinger of the beginning of the end of the 747-400 in BA service.

Probably not.

On 4 September BA announced that 18 of its 744s would get what it called a 'refresh'. This will include new seat cushions and covers in the W and Y cabins and new carpets and curtains throughout. More significantly this 'refresh' will also involve the installation of the Panasonic eX3 Entertainment System in all seats.

BA added that these updates would not start until August next year. They have since said that this 'refresh' on all 18 aircraft will take about 12 months to complete.

I doubt that BA would go to the expense of installing a new entertainment system in a 744 as late as the summer of 2016 if they were not planning to operate the aircraft concerned into the 2020s.

Here is their Press Release:

http://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/...rticleType=LatestNews#.VBOmcM90zIU

More likely that loads are high on SFO-LHR, yields are good, and this route can make effective use of an A380.
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:03 am

Quoting airbazar (Reply 91):

I'm trying to work out how many non state owned airlines independently operate a service connecting its main base to a destination 10,500 miles away ?

For BA to profitably on its own service 10,500 miles away Sydney in this day and age is remarkable.

There isn't another airline on the planet that can claim that on a route of this distance.

[Edited 2014-09-12 23:34:54]
 
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RE: BA A380 To SFO From April 2015

Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:26 am

Quoting 1400mph (Reply 98):
There isn't another airline on the planet that can claim that on a route of this distance.

Err??? Qantas, perhaps! Also Air New Zealand!

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