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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:25 pm

Now it is a 737-800 and in Erzurum.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:37 pm

Quoting LLA001 (Reply 49):
A320 aircraft in Erzincan
Quoting TK787 (Reply 50):
Now it is a 737-800 and in Erzurum.

All these "famous" newspapers and internet sites are lacking journalism basics and rules. I do not know whether we should laugh or cry about this news.

At the end of the day, this is a straight forward issue. I'm more worried about their news on political matters.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:51 pm

Merhaba Turkey... The new name on Lufthansa Cargo's MD11F...
The ceremony was made with pray..
http://kokpit.aero/lufthansa-cargo-duali-isim-meraba-turkey
Turkish Airlines should try on an A330-200F 'Hallo Almanya?'
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:54 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 26):
Kassel
Baden-Baden

How many German airports will they serve? Isn't Kassel the new "abandoned" airport somewhere in Germany?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:07 am

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 53):
Isn't Kassel the new "abandoned" airport somewhere in Germany?

yes, it is located pretty much in the centre of Germany with similar distances to FRA, DUS, HAJ and LEJ. It is not a very developed area and the airport has been renewed recently with Goverment money; however, it is struggeling to attract any airline at all. I think the airport could only attract a handful of charter flights to Spain, Greece and Turkey.

Quite intersting move by TK indeed!

On the other hand I see some potential in FKB (Baden-Baden) which attracts more ethnic travel from the Southeastern part of Germany. Cities like Karlsruhe, Mannheim, Heidelberg and even Stuttgart have a considerable amount of Turkish people living there. On top of that the area is also host to some major industries (mostly automotive, engineering, etc.)
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:03 pm

TK published September 2014 presentation. 108 countries, 217 international, 43 domestic destinations, totally 260 destinations.

Today started Kherson in Ukraine, destination number 261 by TK.

When i count right;

Asia: 35 countries, 64 destinations
Africa: 27 countries, 42 destinations
Europe: 41 countries, 102 destinations
North America: 2 countries, 8 destinations
South America: 2 countries, 2 destinations

Following 22 destinations are announced to the stakeholders in the last 3 years;

Abuja
Luanda (starts 04.01.2015)
Aswan
Luxor
Bamako
Conakry
Juba
Ahvaz
Abha
Havana
Hakkari
Nantes
Kassel
Baden-Baden
Krakov
Lenkeran
Kharkiv
Bari
Mexico City
San Francisco (starts 13.04.2015)
Bogota
Caracas

And these 3 are not announced, but on the presentation (wish list);

Manila
La Coruna
Atlanta

On 11.10.2014 Taipeh and Porto announced to stakeholder, therefore not on the September 2014 presentation.


I've heard that TK postponed service Istanbul-Bamako-Conakry-Istanbul which was announced for start on 1st December. Reason should be Ebola.

[Edited 2014-10-15 14:06:15]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:51 am

Does anyone know which airport are they talking about? I doubt they are the domestic ones.

'After one jet was found with the markings at Istanbul’s Atatürk Airport – Europe’s fifth busiest airport – three further planes were discovered to have similar markings – all of which had arrived from different starting points.'

http://rt.com/news/196264-turkish-arabic-engine-investigation/
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:48 pm

Turkish has signed an agreement with Universal Group for video and music content. What makes this a bit different is that TK and Universal will team up and allow passengers to win VIP trips to concerts, movie premiers, and Universal theme parks.
In addition under the deal, a Universal artist of the month will record individual video introduction/ commercials for TK.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:01 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 57):

Video is below. So maybe we will see more music in promotional videos too.
http://youtu.be/D9Pibj5nF0g?list=UUSK1_qvsEuTNZnvLQvNRLGQ
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:54 am

Looks like as if the 3 77W of 9W are leaving the fleet.

No more flights with those birds are scheduled as of now. Let's see when those birds will again be back like already once before.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:06 am

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 59):
Looks like as if the 3 77W of 9W are leaving the fleet.

How is TK dealing with this in their schedule planning? I think only one more frame each B77W and A333 is arriving this year.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:41 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 60):

How is TK dealing with this in their schedule planning? I think only one more frame each B77W and A333 is arriving this year.

Low season is the answer. They are going to send their A330s to BKK and a mix of everything to BOM and LHR

Anybody in IST at the moment and available for a meeting?

1,5 years after its launch flights to RTM will be operated daily from late october onwards.

[Edited 2014-10-20 04:18:23]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:06 pm

I see Onur Air adding a few new markets.
IST-Kayseri - timed to connect with the new international services, and also adding Ankara - Diyarbakir flights.
I'm curious to see how their European scheduled service plans work out.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:34 pm

Looks like DL reduced their daily schedules in May to 5 times a week.. Not a good sign. Wish DL was back year around on this route  
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:57 pm

Looks like LH is nearing a deal with TK to utilize Sun Express as the base for its longhaul LCC venture.
LH CEO says talks with TK are "progressing nicely”, with decision first week of December.


Lufthansa Favors Low-Cost Long-Haul Partnership With Turkish Air
http://mobile.businessweek.com/news/...-haul-partnership-with-turkish-air

Quoting bahadir (Reply 63):
Looks like DL reduced their daily schedules in May to 5 times a week.. Not a good sign. Wish DL was back year around on this route

I think DL chance on the route get worse and worse each year as the season it operates gets shorter and shorter.
TK is simply too strong.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:13 am

Turkey expecting to increase traffic to 170m by end of 2014: Transport Minister
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:19 pm

Interesting. Ongoing discussion at MIA for potential Turkish flights to MIA

www.twitter.com/ozgurkivancalta/status/524241659224412161

[Edited 2014-10-22 05:24:08]
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:50 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 66):
Interesting. Ongoing discussion at MIA for potential Turkish flights to MIA

ATL and MIA are the only US destinations left that TK does not serve, but which are served by at least 4 of the 5 other main european carriers (AF, BA, IB, KL, LH).
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:00 pm

Do you have any idea which type of 767 BA is using for IST route? I wonder if they use the ones with 97 C/Class seats.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:15 pm

BA sends the European 763 to IST with 2-3-2 business config with middle seat left open.
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Bri...itish_Airways_Boeing_767-300_E.php

But remember BA has flexibility as to the usage of the cabin and also can seat Y class passengers. For example for a random BA676 flight I looked in GDS in next couple of days rows 12 onward are Y class which leaves them 26 C seats.
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Bri...itish_Airways_Boeing_767-300_B.php
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:11 pm

Last two days of spotting at IST:

- Medium winds from south (lodos) leading to minor delays in take off and rather long approaches when landing
- However, situation not comparable to the happenings a few years ago.
- IST full with A330s of TK wherever the eye can see
- Especially the area around the THY hangar full with many parked TK A330s and 77Ws. Interesting that narrow bodies park at gates while widebodies all are parked at remote stands
- Construction in military area still going on and quite some progress visible
- Two gates opposite to the old tower are not in use at the moment, since construction seems to be effecting aircraft movements around that area.
- Iraqi Airways seems to have increased its presence at IST with all sorts of models from CRJ to 777s coming in.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:36 pm

Despite of the wish list and the annoucements to the stakeholders and now Miami;

Which long haul destinations has potential to be added by TK? I mean TK will grove very fast again in 2015-2017, especially the wb fleet; there should be other destinations on the agenda, not?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:49 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 67):
ATL and MIA are the only US destinations left that TK does not serve

Who do you think Turkish will be at first?

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 71):
Which long haul destinations has potential to be added by TK?

Besides ATL and MIA. I'd like to see DTW.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:22 am

Some of you guys will grab at any straw.

So just because the new Turkish consul general to Miami is on a sightseeing tour and visits MIA airport among many many other places in his territory it will mean service by TK?
You guys need to realize a politician will say many nice and polite things to their host. Them turning into reality is something else.

Related do you think Universal, MGM, Sony, or Fox are going to go open studios in Turkey overnight just because there recently was Turkish Film Festival in the US and executives of these companies came and met with Turkish officials who suggest such facilities? Each executive was very polite and said yes they would study it obviously.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:50 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 73):
Some of you guys will grab at any straw.

Amen to that. And it is not just here, but in so many other threads as well. Any regular follower of the Turkish Aviation thread will know that there is a formal process TK has to go through before a new destination is launched, whereby the airline makes a filing announcing to its shareholders its intention to start up a new destination. There have been announcements to that extent for a number of new longhaul destinations, but Miami is not one of them. Enough said, at least for the near future.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:19 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 72):
Who do you think Turkish will be at first?

I just discovered that 4 of 5 of the other biggest european carriers fly there (ATL and MIA).

At least 2 of the 5 other biggest european carriers fly here: DFW, DEN, DTW, EWR, MCO, PHL, SEA.

Doesn't mean anything for TK, it is just a weak indicator i would say.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:36 am

I wonder if TK will go for this 321NEOLR for Africa/Asia routes.
Boarding TK1.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:19 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 73):

I replied to the tweet of the Turkish consul if the flights will start to Miami. He answered that all the effort is in this direction bu we have to wait.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:39 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 74):
but Miami is not one of them.

Keep telling yourself that, mate.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 73):
So just because the new Turkish consul general to Miami is on a sightseeing tour and visits MIA airport among many many other places in his territory it will mean service by TK?

Yep.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:43 pm

Look, I'm not saying it will happen right now or before ATL, but if and when they start ATL. Where else would they start flights to after?

MIA will happen. If ATL comes first. MIA is second. There is no other US City that they can really start flights to. Maybe DTW.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:52 pm

I guess I should get ready for TK to service PPT then because Turkish minister visited French Polynesia and received honors and made comment how Turkey places importance and desires to grow trade in Pacific region.

 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:28 pm

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 80):
Turkish minister visited French Polynesia

Nice touristic visit...  
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:11 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 78):
Keep telling yourself that, mate.

I do not need to tell myself anything. Had you taken the time to properly read, you would have seen that I was merely describing a formal process of how new destinations are introduced at TK. Such a launch is always preceded by a formal report to the airline's shareholders. A number of new longhaul destinations have been reported, and MIA is not one of them. That is factual information, unless you show us where TK has made such a formal filing. Separating facts form hearsay, it is really not that hard.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:19 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 76):
Boarding TK1.

How was the internet connection and pricing?

I am flying IST-LAX in 2 weeks and I will need to occupy myself with something for 13 hours other than watching the PTV  
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:25 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 82):
. A number of new longhaul destinations have been reported, and MIA is not one of them.

Sure, you are correct. But is a list really going to determine where they are going to start flights to? No, not at all.


Here. Read this.

THY served Miami several years ago and has been looking at resuming the Istanbul-Miami route. But Mr Kotil says while Miami is in its network plan for the medium to long term THY is focused on first adding Atlanta, Boston and San Francisco.

(From an article)
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:30 pm

TK has only dropped 2 longhaul routes long term in its history - MIA and KUL. KUL was political and resumed a decade later.

But for anyone with institutional memory at TK they remember the financial and operational disaster MIA was.
Rightfully this haunts many will make the case for any return even harder to justify. There is bad karma, and dirty history most would never seek to explore again. If a Florida link is needed a MCO link might be more appealing at the end.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:56 pm

quick question for all SAW experts:
I want to arrive from FRA with TK and continue onto a domestic flight with PC. Two seperate tickets and only 1:05 hrs transit time. Do you think this is possible?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:34 pm

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 86):
I want to arrive from FRA with TK and continue onto a domestic flight with PC. Two seperate tickets and only 1:05 hrs transit time. Do you think this is possible?

Possible with respect to transit time, but would not book such a flight as a delay of the first flight might lead to misconnection.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:39 pm

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 86):

No chance in my opinion.
I'm not an expert but the way tooks 55 minutes without any traffic (Google Maps). And there is much traffic, always.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:49 pm

Atlasjet CEO says company is close to announcing order for up to 50 jets in the coming days.

Turkish carrier Atlasjet close to ordering 50 planes, CEO says
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...asjet-orders-idUSL6N0SH3NR20141022

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I guess the idea to use the Bombardier C-series is dead as CEO mentions Airbus or Boeing.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:56 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 88):
No chance in my opinion.
I'm not an expert but the way tooks 55 minutes without any traffic (Google Maps). And there is much traffic, always.

no, actually I'm arriving with TK in SAW, not IST...   (sorry for confusion)

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 89):

Atlasjet CEO says company is close to announcing order for up to 50 jets in the coming days.

Turkish carrier Atlasjet close to ordering 50 planes, CEO says
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...41022

good news, but a little bit ambitious considering the business model they currently have.
this might lay the foundation for operations at the new airport; however, I don't see Atlasjet in a position of succesfully operating 50+ jets in near future. don't get me wrong, I enjoy every flight with them, but I would rather rate them as a "boutique airline" compared to Onur or Pegasus
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:57 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 85):
TK dropped MIA right after 9/11. So... I'm really not going to argue with you. I know, as well as everyone else does. TK will be back in MIA.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 85):
If a Florida link is needed a MCO link might be more appealing at the end.

That would make zero sense.

Top-13 Turkey-US O&D markets.

1) New York - 623
2) Los Angeles - 176
3) Washington - 160
4) Chicago - 121
5) Boston - 80
6) San Francisco - 70
7) Miami - 68
8) NYC-ESB - 45
9) Houston - 37
10) Atlanta - 36
11) Seattle - 31
12) Washington-ESB - 25
13) Orlando - 23

Clearly, MIA is a safer bet. But please, go on and tell me otherwise.

[Edited 2014-10-23 13:59:59]
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:47 pm

Its interesting there are some that continue to argue blindly against the wall for their points about a particular city when we also have other members here that are involved with TK and even part of the analysis and decision making process.

Best I think we just ignore the noise in the room.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:59 pm

When did TK operate MIA?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:01 pm

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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:03 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 91):
TK dropped MIA right after 9/11. So... I'm really not going to argue with you

Helps if you have your facts right. TK announced it was dropping MIA PRE-9/11

Matter of fact the schedule closure was announced August 2001.

Here is an article from August 13, 2001

THY to drop Miami, boost New York
https://login.flightglobal.com/?ReturnUrl=http://pro.flightglobal.com/news/articles/thy-to-drop-miami-boost-new-york-253952/

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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:08 pm

MIA route cut was not result of 9/11.

Decision to terminate the terribly loss making adventure was made well before the tragic events. IIRC about May/June prior to the IATA schedule conference.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:09 pm

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 95):
Helps if you have your facts right.

Yawn   

They said to stop flights in Summer 2002. But it ended right after 9/11.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:20 pm

A new campaign by TK sounds interesting :

Turkish Airlines announces global YouTube campaign

LONDON, England - Turkish Airlines today announces a partnership with Rightster, the cloud-based global video distribution and monetisation network, to kick off a global YouTube campaign.
As YouTube's most subscribed airline, Turkish Airlines has invested in a global project that will allow many of the world's biggest YouTube stars to take part in its #FortuneTraveller initiative. The project involves flying stars such as Devin Supertramp , from the US with over 2.5m subscribers, and Damian Walters, from the UK with 475,000 subscribers, to Istanbul with just a passport and bag.
Once landed in Istanbul they will take part in a traditional Turkish fortune telling event, after which they will be sent to one of Turkish Airlines' 260 destinations. The YouTube vloggers will be asked to record their experiences showcasing Istanbul, the chosen destination and the Turkish Airlines experience. Each video will be housed on the Turkish Airlines YouTube channel.


http://www.eturbonews.com/51784/turk...-announces-global-youtube-campaign
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2014

Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:42 am

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 83):
How was the internet connection and pricing?

$9.99/hour or $14.99/24 hours.
I didn't purchase it, too tired. but I kept getting emails and sent a few without purchasing any minutes.

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