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SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:21 am

Interjet's SSJ100 fleet has recently achieved its first year of operations. From the SJI's website we get some very interesting figures:

-- Overall fleet technical dispatch reliability is over 99%
-- Not a single flight cancelled due to technical reasons (quite impressive IMHO)
-- MSN 95023 achieved the highest numbers with more than 2400 FH and 2300 FC, very good for an airline known for its short fleet utilization.

http://www.superjetinternational.com...-year-of-operations-with-interjet/

BTW, I also read in another interview with the guys of SJI that the Powerjet SAM146 is already operating with a lower SFC than its nominal value, the next step will be a weight reduction program.
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:35 am

Looks like we are only 2 to pay attention to this bird !
It's a pity
Thanks anyway
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:59 am

Why is that? I used to support any talk about SSJ.
It's a great aircraft.
The Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute performed unique job to reduce drag for a pretty wide airplane (3-2 configuration @ 18" in Y.)

For the Russian civil aviation industry - reborn from ashes, in a sense - SSJ is quite an achievement.
Besides, the experience is supposed to be implemented on MS-21 (12cm wider than A-320 and 28 cm wider than B-737.)

SSJ is fully geared to compete with E2 or MRJ or CS.
However political implications make the whole thing very difficult.

Still, SSJ made Aeroflot not resume lease agreement on some A-319.
MS-21 is supposed to do the same with A-320/321.
We will be following this interesting intrigue.
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:29 am

So now we are 3 

Can you tell us about winglets and SAM146 improvements?
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:30 am

The Superjet is indeed a superb aircraft to fly on, much quieter and more comfortable than an Embraer, Airbus or Boeing, in my opinion. I hope this is only the beginning for this aircraft!
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:10 am

First of all, congratulations to SSJ100 program and Interjet. It is an amazing achievement and always good to hear that a new type is 'proving itself'.

Quoting aviaponcho (Reply 3):
So now we are 3

Make it 5!  Is there any tracking / specific site, where SSJ is discussed in a detail? Sort of a.net tracking of A350 / 787 / 748?

Andrej
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:19 am

Great news for the program, now I would like to see an additional reliable airline doing it as well - it will be good for market exposure. Who are the next upcoming customers?

What seems clear is that in the hands of a serious airline (unlike Armavia, Sky Aviation etc) and who wants to make the best use of the aircraft (unlike SU), the SSJ can indeed be a very reliable performer.
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:26 pm

@aviaponco
I am not that much involved. I was. A couple of years ago when people was making comparisons with SSJ competitors.

There are great aviation forums in Russian.
This site/forum is translated by Google; reasonably well translated.
Lots and lots info about the bird.

http://translate.google.com/translat...age&u=http://superjet.wikidot.com/

As to brand airlines - nothing new. InterJet was supposed to start Houston. Waiting for pictures.

@r2rho
I would say that without SkyWest enormous order of EMB-120, the present history of Embraer might be different.
We Russians don't expect that such luck happens.
So the plan is to manufacture at the rate 60/year.
Perhaps the quantitative factor will play out if 200 something aircraft confirm viability of the SSJ Project.
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:28 pm

Now we are 6  

What about that order from Vietnam (I read a post about that of this forum one or two weeks ago)?
Order for both Vietnam Airlines and Viet Jet

Any news from Lao Central Airlines and Sky Aviation? Thinks Sky aviation doen't fly anymore but are the very "young" aircraft grounded for ever or waiting for an other buyer (Sky Aviation was not the only Indonesian airlines interested in SSJ).
Lao Central Airlines is still operating the 734 but once again, what about thei SSJ?
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:57 pm

Make it 7...I have heard first hand accounts from pilots and PAX, that its wonderful I might be flying one to SAT very soon just for the sake of it...
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:24 pm

Quoting sibille (Reply 8):
Any news from Lao Central Airlines and Sky Aviation? Thinks Sky aviation doen't fly anymore but are the very "young" aircraft grounded for ever or waiting for an other buyer (Sky Aviation was not the only Indonesian airlines interested in SSJ).
Lao Central Airlines is still operating the 734 but once again, what about thei SSJ?

It seems Sky Aviation will restart operations towards the end of year, I saw a picture of one of the SSJ100's being prepared for resuming flights.
In Lao Central's case, I don't think they are flying anything at all, if you go to their reservation system any flight you try to book at any date is unavailable.

As for another buyer, I am pretty confident Cityjet will be the first Western European customer for the type, since it is the only real option they have to replace their Avros, the E190 is just too weight restricted to operate efficiently from such small runways.

As for the project developments, winglets are being scheduled to be tested next year for the business jet version and the LR version.

As for further improvements, the aiframe continues to shed some weight, and some minor changes have been implemented to improve aerodynamic efficiency, btw this is the main reason for the delayed delivery of the latest Interjet's airframes from Venice, that and the newest software version. In the engine side, the Sam146 is also on a weight reduction program as well.
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:04 pm

Is Aeroflot happy with their SSJ? I remember reading on here that they had problems with them or that they were not too happy with it.
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:23 pm

I find it a shame that there isn't any in the UK or vicinity to have a flight on one  
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:29 pm

Cityjet was talking about SSJ.
But due to known reasons they will be waiting for CS; I guess.
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:16 pm

Quoting JU068 (Reply 11):
Is Aeroflot happy with their SSJ? I remember reading on here that they had problems with them or that they were not too happy with it.

Apparently their first few aircraft were an early spec that they agreed to turn back in to the manufacturer for later builds that made better numbers. Or that's what I read in an earlier SSJ thread.
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:52 pm

Quoting sibille (Reply 8):
Any news from Lao Central Airlines and Sky Aviation? Thinks Sky aviation doen't fly anymore but are the very "young" aircraft grounded for ever or waiting for an other buyer (Sky Aviation was not the only Indonesian airlines interested in SSJ).

The other one was Kartika Airlines, who went bust when their deposits were due... and still not flying yet.

Quoting Wayfarer515 (Reply 10):
It seems Sky Aviation will restart operations towards the end of year, I saw a picture of one of the SSJ100's being prepared for resuming flights.

Sky is reportedly sold to Kartika Air's owner... given that guy's track record (and how Kartika Air ended), no one is expecting Sky v2.0 to last for very long, but at least, with the amount of money the guy can waste, it'll be a few years at least. At least it'll be good to see them fly in Indonesia's skies again  
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:35 pm

Awesome news for this aircraft. Being from Russia its difficult to sale this bird I'm sure. Maybe this will get it noticed after some real world numbers are starting to come in.

Thanks for sharing.
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:06 pm

Quoting NC1844V (Reply 16):
Awesome news for this aircraft. Being from Russia its difficult to sale this bird I'm sure. Maybe this will get it noticed after some real world numbers are starting to come in.

The numbers are in, but the problem with the Sukhoi Superjet (which I love and have flown) is the Sukhoi part, not the Superjet part. They have little production rate to speak of, and major airlines need spares, MX support, etc. at a global level which Sukhoi can't achieve yet.

Very chicken and egg unfortunately. They need orders and cash to grow production and support, but they need p+s to get the orders. Hopefully they can continue to produce at the current rate while making incremental improvements that will keep the economics competitive. Getting to that point where the worldwide fleet will support itself in terms of resale values, spares availability, etc. (what is it now ~300 frames?) would be a huge selling point. The blue-chip customers will continue to buy from A, B, BBD, and E until product support is proven. This is something Embraer for example still struggles with to some degree, so you can see how far Sukhoi needs to progress before they can have a truly successful program. The Superjet could well be the first step in that direction, just don't expect it to be a smash hit. If they break out of the niche-airline market or exceed 100 produced I will consider it a success.
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:53 am

In the same time,

- Only 3 SSJs operational as of today in Aeroflot fleet, out of 10, so why would they take delivery of more aircraft?
- Gazpromavia (5 a:c delivered out of 10) but flying only very few charter flights
- SSJ delivered to Laos and Indonesia are grounded
- Transaero postponed deliveries
- UTAir cannot take deliveries
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:58 am

And I forgot OAK trying to recover in courts 3,5m$ unpaid bills from Yakutia Airlines
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:00 am

Those Interjet numbers are pretty impressive! Good for the SSJ  
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:22 am

Quoting apruzesse13 (Reply 18):
- SSJ delivered to Laos and Indonesia are grounded

The ones in Indonesia are with Sky... now, are the 3 SSJs grounded because of Sukhois problems, or the airline's problems?

The silly airline was proud that the SSJ only burnt 2 tons of fuel an hour, to which I laughed and told them, "but the A320 burns 2.2 tons an hour and carry 80% more seats than you"... to which the member of the senior management of that airline said "you're lying"...    I said "no, I'm not... try and fly within RVSM airspace, you should be burning 1.5 tons an hour only if you fly to RVSM airspace... sort it out OK?"

To me, it remains to be seen if the SSJ is a good aircraft or not, the numbers at Interjet is impressive so far, but I want to see what happens when it goes to it's first major overhaul/check...

A good airplane in the hands of an idiot management will always fail... a bad airplane in the hands of a smart management still has a chance...
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:37 am

Why UTAir did not take delivery of their first SSJ?
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:41 am

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 14):
Apparently their first few aircraft were an early spec that they agreed to turn back in to the manufacturer for later builds that made better numbers. Or that's what I read in an earlier SSJ thread.

Thanks.

Quoting lollomz (Reply 22):
Why UTAir did not take delivery of their first SSJ?

I am not sure but I think they are having financial difficulties. I think I read somewhere that both UTair and Transaero asked the Russian government for financial assistance as they were affected by the sanctions.
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:51 am

Quoting apruzesse13 (Reply 18):
Only 3 SSJs operational as of today in Aeroflot fleet, out of 10, so why would they take delivery of more aircraft?

This has nothing to do with the airplane itself, and all to do with AFL's incompetent management. They even had to send some representatives to see how Interjet was able to operate the aircraft efficiently, and with turnaround times of 25 minutes only. Of course, they found out Interjet was way ahead of them in aspects such as spare part management at destination airports, ground handling and even some basic stuff as using the front and aft doors for boarding/deboarding the plane.

As for delivery of new airframes, both Utair and Aeroflot are having some problems with their lessors getting the financing in place to obtain the aircraft.

Red Wings will now become a major user of the A/C in the Russian market, they are getting the ex-Moskovia airframes plus some of the ex AFL-light aircraft. We will see then a better example of a Russian operator of the type than what AFL has been so far.
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:16 am

Quoting apruzesse13 (Reply 18):
- Only 3 SSJs operational as of today in Aeroflot fleet, out of 10, so why would they take delivery of more aircraft?

The above statement is not completely true:

Today's SU9 flights. 4 registrations I could find, but you would need 5 frames for the below schedule.

SVO - CEK - SVO 01:05 - 05:25 - 06:15 - 06:45 (RA-89024)
SVO - PEE - SVO 07:55 - 12:00 - 12:50 - 13:05 (RA-89024)
SVO - CPH - SVO 21:30 - 10:15 - 11:40 - 04:05 (RA-89025)
SVO - MQF - SVO 00:50 - 05:05 - 06:05 - 06:25 (RA-89027)
SVO - NBC - SVO 08:10 - 10:00 - 11:10 - 13:00 (RA-89027)
SVO - OTP - SVO 11:30 - 14:05 - 14:55 - 19:35 (RA-89032)
SVO - GOJ - SVO 16:00 - 17:20 - 18:10 - 19:15
SVO - PEE - SVO 01:30 - 05:35 - 08:00 - 08:10
SVO - GOJ - SVO 10:55 - 12:15 - 13:10 - 14:30
SVO - NBC - SVO 15:45 - 17:40 - 18:40 - 20:35
SVO - NJC - SVO 12:05 - 17:20 - 18:30 - 20:00
SVO - DRS - SVO 14:55 - 15:40 - 16:30 - 21:00

Not that this really changes the point, only less than half active frames. SU has 15 (2 stored + 13 'active' of which only 5 fly regulary)
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:18 am

I think this is a great looking / performing plane from what i have read.

Is it certified for the steep approach in to London City Airport (LCY)?
If not are there any plans to do this - is it even possible size wise?

Thanks,
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:00 am

Quoting lhrlocal (Reply 26):

Is it certified for the steep approach in to London City Airport (LCY)?
If not are there any plans to do this - is it even possible size wise?

If the bigger A318 can do it I would guess it is possible. The C-Series plans to, and Embraers seem to do it without(?) the ventral air brake originally planned for this service.

2002:
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...brake-for-steep-approaches-156759/

2014: just use spoilers:
http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/54334...peed-brakes-steep-glideslopes.html

[Edited 2014-10-03 04:02:51]
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:50 pm

Quoting Wayfarer515 (Thread starter):
-- Overall fleet technical dispatch reliability is over 99%
-- Not a single flight cancelled due to technical reasons (quite impressive IMHO)
-- MSN 95023 achieved the highest numbers with more than 2400 FH and 2300 FC, very good for an airline known for its short fleet utilization.

These numbers aren't that impressive when you consider they're only flying 6.5 hours/day. Most A320 and 737 fleets will also achieve 99%+ DR yet they're flying 11+ hours/day.

Still, the SSJ adds a little variation to otherwise boring skies, so it is very welcome.
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:21 pm

Quoting ChaosTheory (Reply 28):
hese numbers aren't that impressive when you consider they're only flying 6.5 hours/day. Most A320 and 737 fleets will also achieve 99%+ DR yet they're flying 11+ hours/day.

Remember this is the DR since its EIS in Interjet one year ago, in another thread I posted a few months ago Interjet stated its SSJ100 fleet was already surpassing the A320 fleet in terms of DR. This is a better comparison as well, since Interjet use its SSJ100 and A320 fleet pretty much the same flying hours/day.
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:06 pm

An amazingly interesting stuff about SSJ-100.
Highly recommended for all guys interested:

http://www.ruaviation.com/docs/3/2014/4/14/80/
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:06 am

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 30):
An amazingly interesting stuff about SSJ-100.
Highly recommended for all guys interested:

thanks great article... hope the SSJ is a success
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:31 pm

Thanks for the link. It would be vice to see a SSJ-100 wearing the Red Wings livery!
I hope it will become true...
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:16 am

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 30):
An amazingly interesting stuff about SSJ-100.
Highly recommended for all guys interested:

http://www.ruaviation.com/docs/3/2014/4/14/80/

Thanks for sharing! Quite interesting indeed.
 
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:41 am

Anyone who doesn't like this stupendous little plane is ridiculous. Compared to many major programs, entry into service has really been relatively issue-free (crashing test plane aside....). The numbers there speak for themselves. It's a shame that the prevailing world politics are heavily against this plane at the moment, but if conditions change favourably enough, we could have a reliable little slow-burner here, which could end up selling many more than first expected. Perhaps most valuably though, it shows that it can finally be done by Russia (with the appropriate support) - making something half-decent and reliable for use on the other side of the world.
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RE: SSJ100 AIJ 1 Year After

Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:35 am

Quoting apruzesse13 (Reply 18):
- SSJ delivered to Laos and Indonesia are grounded
- Transaero postponed deliveries
- UTAir cannot take deliveries

Add to that Armavia etc. This is exactly what I meant by the SSJ needing more serious, reliable airlines in its portfolio. Even if it's not at all the SSJ's fault, these poorly managed airlines don't help improve the program's image. If Cityjet truly ever happens, it would be a major breakthrough.

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