|Quoting LXLucien (Reply 16):|
Apart from GVA - LUG there are no news about routes from GVA. In an internal movie leaked to the public last week, they talk about adding routes to GVA... so I guess we'll have to wait.
In the current schedule that LX
has loaded for GVA
the plane has about 5 hours in the middle of the day during weekdays and pretty much the whole of Saturday and Sunday where it just sits in GVA
If I had to guess they will attack F7 on GVA
with that aircraft and on the weekend use it for BIQ, VLC
. Basically anything that F7 flies ex-GVA
and that LX
doesn't fly yet.
Apparently there was a quote in the press in GVA
that routes ex-GVA
are still to be announced. Hopefully LX
will tackle their main problem in GVA
: a dreadful schedule with poor frequencies vs. easyJet/competition. Case in point the example of flying GVA
5x weekly during the middle of the day when all other carriers (AZ, F7, U2
) have morning/evening frequencies on a daily basis. Or flying GVA
departing at 6AM, a time at which the flight has 0 connections and nobody can get to in time - as a result that route will terminate at the end of March next year. The same can be said for many other routes ex-GVA
has shown ex-ZRH
is that their current strategy isn't P2P, it's to keep a fortress hub and kick all other carriers out. I'm sure within a year of this half of the carriers on the routes LX
are starting will no longer fly these. After which LX
will resume their aggressive pricing ex-ZRH
. Anyone who comes back in on other new routes will get the same treatment. LX
has already done this in the past ex-GVA
then retreated out of markets and come back in afterwards.
I think it's quite clear that after all of this, there are almost no routes that F7 will fly where LX
won't be head to head up against them. One can wonder how long until F7 bleeds all it's money - knowing that it will be difficult for Etihad to pump money into them legally (there's nothing like a FF
program they can use an excuse this time, such as what they did with AB
) and with Etihad's recent purchase of Alitalia, having Darwin under their umbrella might not make as much sense anymore, especially if LX
/LH declares a full on war.
|Quoting teahan (Reply 14):|
I have no problem with high density cabins but I do see an issue with selling this as an enhancement for customers. It wasn't that long ago (2006-2007) that LX A320s were flying with 150 seats and A321s with 174 (?) seats.
The problem is back then LX
seemingly had a lot more trouble filling planes but still got a fairly good yield out of it. Today the contrary is true, LX
can fill planes but they do so at a lower yield. Add into the equation that LX
's costs are above an LCC and increasing capacity to bring down the unit costs is something they need to do.
For 1-2 hour flights I doubt most people will really notice and even if they do all other carriers pack them in like sardines anyways. Of course those who get subject to these seats on longer flights (say to Canaries, RAK
, etc...) will probably really enjoy the 'new comfort'.
|Quoting seat1a (Reply 4):|
Any ideas on what the point-to-point routes will be outside of the Zurich hub?
The P2P routes are actually from ZRH
won't be flying any routes that don't touch either hub/base. The BSL
operation will shortly be replaced by Eurowings and I suppose that might be a test to see how LX
routes perform after being transferred to a LCC. If it works then I expect some/all of GVA
to go the same way and a few routes ex-ZRH
to get the same treatment.
|Quoting sandrozrh (Reply 19):|
Oh and has anybody realised that the seat pitch in business class will actually increase? No, I guess not..
Because in reality it won't. Between the first row and the exit rows LX
can't physically fit in an extra row. So as they are putting in new seats a certain number (first 3/5 or all rows until the exit row?) will seemingly have more leg room. In reality though it will be the same number of seats.
Behind the exit row, however with the lavatory/galley being modified and tighter seats, LX
will get its extra seats. It's pretty much exactly what BA
have done also and sitting behind an exit row on pretty much any European carrier from now on will be pure hell.
It's funny how LX
say these new seats will be enjoyable for flyers whereas those who have flown LH
NEK know how enjoyable they are.