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Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:21 am

Wow, that passed quickly. No time for an exhaustive list, but some of the highlights from the previous thread included:

* 717s and where they fly/flew
* Qantas 767 farewell flights
* Qantas to put a retro livery on a 737-800
* Spotting in Sydney
* Who's in Canberra?
* Will Qantas use A330s to replace some 767 services?

Keep flapping on...
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:33 am

Quoting Sydscott:
Jetstar Japans performance has been released for the year ending June 30, 2014

Frankly $118mn Australian is actually better than I had expected considering where they are in their development. Obviously I have absolutely no idea what QF and JL had forecasted, but I wouldn't be surprised if GK's performance was "in line with expectations". Further, I would expect that figure to improve quite significantly over the next year.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:50 am

Was going to fly on my first 787 tomorrow but got an email yesterday from Jetstar saying it's been cancelled due to maintenance reasons. In some ways good because I didn't want to fly tomorrow anyway  
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Cloudy. Very high (95%) chance of rain. Heavy falls possible. Possible thunder. Winds southerly 35 to 55 km/h, 65 km/h along the coast.

Plus I've now got meetings for tomorrow.

But now I'm left with an orphan Tigerair (also to be my first) back. To change it is more expensive than the original cost. Any ideas?

That's now my third cancellation this year - a record. The first was also Jetstar, but due to a cyclone (no complaints being stuck an extra day in Japan). Then AirAsiaX (no reason given) and now Jetstar again.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:55 am

Quoting allrite (Thread starter):
* Spotting in Sydney

Any Aussie A.netters up for some kind of SYD mini-meet on Sat, 25 October??? I believe that is my one weekend day off for the month and I plan to spend it watching planes! Either the beach near the old control tower if 34L is in use but if 16R is in use I wouldn't mind trying to park somewhere and walk to a spot right under the 16R arrivals as we discussed in the last thread...
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:59 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 1):
Frankly $118mn Australian is actually better than I had expected considering where they are in their development. Obviously I have absolutely no idea what QF and JL had forecasted, but I wouldn't be surprised if GK's performance was "in line with expectations". Further, I would expect that figure to improve quite significantly over the next year.

The problem I have with Jetstar is QF appears to have been so deliberately unclear about its results. A clear enunciation of the strategy and how the actual results fit into this would be so much better. At the moment, there is no real way to say whether it is a future gold-mine or a black-hole.

QF's clarity with the performance of the various Jetstar satellites has always been opaque at best. Who would know if this is an acceptable result? Is it improving or declining? Can we expect a turnaround this year? This comment applies to just about all of Jetstar's operations except the Australian domestic operations and rumours of cost-shifting exist here too. You would hope they are expecting an improvement this year. If they're not, you'd wonder why they are bothering.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:01 am

Quoting allrite (Reply 2):
Was going to fly on my first 787 tomorrow but got an email yesterday from Jetstar saying it's been cancelled due to maintenance reasons. In some ways good because I didn't want to fly tomorrow anyway
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I love to fly in bad weather conditions. The more wind and rain the better! Sorry to hear you missed the 787 opportunity though... It will happen!

Also, given the talk in the last thread about the QF 767s leaving and routes like SYD-MEL going to be mostly 737s for QF in the future, it means I will go out of my way to look for the JQ 788 Intl Tag On flight on the SYD-MEL sectors. I think flying on a JQ 787 for that short flight would be better than the QF 737, despite the much, much, superior service on QF  
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:11 am

Quoting tullamarine (Reply 4):
QF's clarity with the performance of the various Jetstar satellites has always been opaque at best. Who would know if this is an acceptable result? Is it improving or declining? Can we expect a turnaround this year? This comment applies to just about all of Jetstar's operations except the Australian domestic operations and rumours of cost-shifting exist here too. You would hope they are expecting an improvement this year. If they're not, you'd wonder why they are bothering.

Some of these questions we can answer:

Is it improving or declining? Revenue was up 2.27 times while costs were 87%. So a very significant increase in revenue coupled with increased costs. Overall that meant a steeper loss than last year. However with up to 6 A320's being unutilised for large parts of the year to June 2014 and with the launch of the Osaka base plus new services to Oita and Kumamoto you'd expect an improved result this year.

Can we expect a turnaround this year? GK is taking A320's 19, 20 and 21 prior to year end so we can expect announcements to be forthcoming about what they're going to to do with them. The extra Oita and the new Kumamoto services can be done with the existing fleet so part of that turn-around is going to be International routes. If we don't see those start to materialise over the next few months some serious questions need to be raised.

Quoting tullamarine (Reply 4):
At the moment, there is no real way to say whether it is a future gold-mine or a black-hole.

Peach made a profit in the year to March 31st, 2014 out of nearly identical revenue to GK but with 6 fewer aircraft. (Peach had 30.6 billion yen of revenue while GK had 29.1 billion yen of revenue) However Peach is effectively a single hub operator at KIX and also has International services to bump up utilisation while GK's utilisaton was in the dumps due to the excess aircraft. You would expect GK's utilisation to increase dramatically this year.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:17 am

Quoting allrite (Reply 2):
now I'm left with an orphan Tigerair (also to be my first) back. To change it is more expensive than the original cost. Any ideas?

I just ditched mine after abandoning my 734 retirement trip. I was flying TT back from MEL (where the fake "final" flight arrived) to SYD for something like $42 all in, and it was going to cost more than that to change it so I left it and no showed. To be honest I was quite looking forward to that flight as it would have been my first TT flight.

Quoting allrite (Reply 2):
AirAsiaX (no reason given)

I suppose we will be reading about that shortly in a TR? I am definitely interested to read what you have to say, aa you have been dropping several hints that certain elements of the trip were *eventful*

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 3):
Sat, 25 October

I have work that day, otherwise I might have been coaxed to head up to SYD.

I know that several of us have discussed privately the matter of a proper meet for this summer, and I wonder if we are getting to the stage of actually talking about that in more detail. 777Jet, Bunummurring and other interested parties, are you members of Allrite's Google community? If so that might be the right place to discuss this, at least in the preliminary stages.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:27 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
Sat, 25 October

I have work that day, otherwise I might have been coaxed to head up to SYD.

I know that several of us have discussed privately the matter of a proper meet for this summer, and I wonder if we are getting to the stage of actually talking about that in more detail. 777Jet, Bunummurring and other interested parties, are you members of Allrite's Google community? If so that might be the right place to discuss this, at least in the preliminary stages.

I don't think I'm a member of any google community LOL - not that I know of... I do use gmail though  

If others are happy to organise something and then send me a PM in here that is fine with me!

I guess, as is usually the case with such meets (from my experience on other forums), agreeing on a date that fits in with most is usually the problem. I usually find that if somebody throws a date out there every now and then it is not to hard to get smaller but more frequent meets happening... Nonetheless, I'm up for something... It would be good...
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:46 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 1):
Further, I would expect that figure to improve quite significantly over the next year.

  
GK was hamstrung by too many aircraft and restrictions on their operations. Whose fault that is I don't know, but if there isn't improved performance in the next 12 months then there's a problem.

Quoting allrite (Reply 2):
But now I'm left with an orphan Tigerair (also to be my first) back. To change it is more expensive than the original cost. Any ideas?

Gift it to a friend of the same gender? I can only recall being asked for ID once in the past 10 years of domestic flying - JQ at OOL and that was only because I needed to print my BP at the check in desk. Having said that - it is illegal to travel under another name..

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 6):
Can we expect a turnaround this year? GK is taking A320's 19, 20 and 21 prior to year end so we can expect announcements to be forthcoming about what they're going to to do with them.

GK seems to be chasing market share at the expense of profit. We all know how well that worked for the US majors a few years ago. For GK to be receiving 3 more frames by the end of the year is a lot to absorb domestically.

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 6):
However Peach is effectively a single hub operator at KIX and also has International services to bump up utilisation while GK's utilisaton was in the dumps due to the excess aircraft.

Short haul international flying is what should bump GK into profit.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:52 am

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 9):
GK seems to be chasing market share at the expense of profit. We all know how well that worked for the US majors a few years ago. For GK to be receiving 3 more frames by the end of the year is a lot to absorb domestically.

The good thing about Japan is there are plenty of routes which don't have LCC competition. Routes like Oita and Kumamoto are dominated by the Big 2 so if anything GK will grow the market. As for marketshare, as I said they haven't made a sufficient number of route announcements to even begin utilising the capacity that 3 new A320's would bring so I suspect they're saving them up for some extra peak season services and for International routes next year. I'd be surprised if there were significant new domestic announcements.

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 9):
Short haul international flying is what should bump GK into profit.

Agreed. The unfortunate thing for GK is that Vanilla Air will be on all of the obvious major shorthall routes out of NRT by the time they start to fly.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:16 am

Seems to have gone silent regarding QFs return to the PER-SIN route...

Tiger have announced a pull out on the PER-SIN route from early next year.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:20 am

Quoting vhebb (Reply 11):

Seems to have gone silent regarding QFs return to the PER-SIN route...

Tiger have announced a pull out on the PER-SIN route from early next year.

Not surprising given TZ flies it 5x week and SQ 4x Daily, all owned by the same people IIRC.

Don't know about QF, though one poster seemed to be pretty sure 'something' would be happening.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:14 am

Quoting vhebb (Reply 11):
Seems to have gone silent regarding QFs return to the PER-SIN route...

JQFlightie may say otherwise......
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:01 am

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 12):
Not surprising given TZ flies it 5x week and SQ 4x Daily, all owned by the same people IIRC.

Fully agree.

Very odd it flew all 3 brands on the route, even though TR is technically not a fully owned SQ carrier, which may have some role in decision making.

The news that Tigerair Singapore and Scoot will be co-operating more extensively makes sense and this move certainly plays into that well.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:44 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 5):

It's a shame Brisbane doesn't have any choice but all 737s in the future. Once the 767 is gone I would probably prefer to book on VA's E190 than QF's 737.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:55 am

Quoting a19901213 (Reply 15):
It's a shame Brisbane doesn't have any choice but all 737s in the future. Once the 767 is gone I would probably prefer to book on VA's E190 than QF's 737.

if you're so dead set against the 737's, you could always go the luxury of the 320's plying the route, or maybe the VA ATR's through PMQ, or QF Link 717's through CBR.  

Seriously, it's an hour flight, it's not like you're going to DFW on them.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:10 am

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 14):

  

Makes a lot of sense for TR to give PER off to TZ.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:14 am

Quoting jupiter2 (Reply 16):

Seriously, if you have to take the return flight twice a week, you would know the difference being on a 767 and 737.

There's nothing wrong with the 737, just that once you were spoiled by the 767, you're not going to be satisfied with the double excuse me on 737.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:40 am

Quoting a19901213 (Reply 15):
It's a shame Brisbane doesn't have any choice but all 737s in the future. Once the 767 is gone I would probably prefer to book on VA's E190 than QF's 737.

But you'd rather fly on an even narrower E190?   

Quoting a19901213 (Reply 18):
There's nothing wrong with the 737, just that once you were spoiled by the 767, you're not going to be satisfied with the double excuse me on 737.

So I'm guessing you either sit in the aisle seat or the window seat hence your comment about the "double excuse me". You can always sit in the middle seat and that way there would only be one 'excuse me'  
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:49 am

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 19):

E190 is actually quite spacious despite its size. I found it more comfortable than 737s.

Regarding the seating, I choose window seat because I like looking out the windows...

middle seat? that's the worst nightmare you could have on the aircraft....
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:24 am

Makes complete sense for TR to stop PER-SIN and hand over to TZ, but always a shame to have one less tail at the international terminal.

Lets hope this move encourages QF to announce its apparent "plan B" on the route.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:46 am

Quoting a19901213 (Reply 20):
E190 is actually quite spacious despite its size. I found it more comfortable than 737s.

Regarding the seating, I choose window seat because I like looking out the windows...

middle seat? that's the worst nightmare you could have on the aircraft....

3 words = emergency exit row. Love the window seat on the 738 at the over wing exit which means there are no excuse me's on the way anywhere while getting the best view from your seat. Then again I fly mainly PER runs and have gone out of my way to avoid the 767 on SYD-PER. Give me an A332 any day!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:12 am

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 22):
3 words = emergency exit row.

      

I was about to say the same thing.

That said the 2 seats is one of the reason why I like the 717. It is so much more spacious and comfortable than the E90, but still allowing you to be only 1 seat away from the aisle. As someone else said, though, it is only a one hour flight.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:43 pm

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 12):
Not surprising given TZ flies it 5x week and SQ 4x Daily, all owned by the same people IIRC.

I guess it would help to boost loads or yields on TZ if TR drops the route. TR looks to be the bottom feeder on the route so with them out of the picture, TZ may be able to raise fares a little.

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 14):
The news that Tigerair Singapore and Scoot will be co-operating more extensively makes sense and this move certainly plays into that well.

Though it means that TR will need to find somewhere else to send the A320 that used to do the PER run. With all the overcapacity ex-SIN at the moment, that won't be easy.

Quoting ben175 (Reply 21):
Lets hope this move encourages QF to announce its apparent "plan B" on the route.

Though it does take out some capacity on PER-SIN, I doubt many pax would move from TR to QF. 3K & TZ will be the main beneficiaries of TR's exit.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:53 pm

SQ to temporarily upgauge SQ221/222 (SIN-SYD-SIN) to A380 between 18th June 2015 - 12 July 2015

SQ will also temporarily bring back the A380 to MEL between 11th September 2015 - 16 September 2015, 16th September 2015 - 11th October 2015.

All schedules subject to change

Source: - Airlineroute
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:10 am

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 24):
Though it means that TR will need to find somewhere else to send the A320 that used to do the PER run. With all the overcapacity ex-SIN at the moment, that won't be easy.

I think they are leasing out 12 A320's to IndiGo Airlines in India, which may explain the route cuts.

Its certainly requiring some right sizing really, given the challenges that airlines in Singapore are having currently.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:28 am

Quoting atal17 (Reply 25):
SQ to temporarily upgauge SQ221/222 (SIN-SYD-SIN) to A380 between 18th June 2015 - 12 July 2015

SQ will also temporarily bring back the A380 to MEL between 11th September 2015 - 16 September 2015, 16th September 2015 - 11th October 2015.

What's the significance of those dates I wonder. First is only partly Australian school holidays. Not in Singapore.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
just ditched mine after abandoning my 734 retirement trip. I was flying TT back from MEL (where the fake "final" flight arrived) to SYD for something like $42 all in, and it was going to cost more than that to change it so I left it and no showed. To be honest I was quite looking forward to that flight as it would have been my first TT flight.
Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 9):
Gift it to a friend of the same gender? I can only recall being asked for ID once in the past 10 years of domestic flying - JQ at OOL and that was only because I needed to print my BP at the check in desk. Having said that - it is illegal to travel under another name..

Ditched. Didn't have any friends in Melbourne named Terry Wrist.

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 3):
Any Aussie A.netters up for some kind of SYD mini-meet on Sat, 25 October???

Saturdays are bad for me during school term. Sundays may work, depending on other commitments. PM me a gmail address if you want to join the Google community.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
I suppose we will be reading about that shortly in a TR?

You've read the first. The rest are up now.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:44 am

Quoting vhebb (Reply 11):
Seems to have gone silent regarding QFs return to the PER-SIN route...

Why would they return so soon? And even if they did, I thought AJ said the flights were stopped because they made no money. Don't get me wrong, Red tail growth is what dreams are made of... But it just seems strange, and its messy PR.

Quoting a19901213 (Reply 15):
It's a shame Brisbane doesn't have any choice but all 737s in the future. Once the 767 is gone I would probably prefer to book on VA's E190 than QF's 737.

With another 5 (?.. or however many are left at JQ) JQ A330's heading to QF, we might see more A330's on the BNE - SYD sectors... Or Maybe even BNE - DRW/ CNS/ MEL
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:36 pm

Queensland has awarded its regulated air services contracts:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...k=462459064c6d01cdb5b6a51ff4695c0e

Love 'em or hate 'em, this is good news for ZL. Status quo (routes wise, but not schedule wise or aircraft wise) for QF. And, unfortunately, not so good news for Skytrans.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:56 pm

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 29):

Are you able to provide a summary? The article is behind the paywall.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:57 pm

Quoting allrite (Reply 27):
Quoting 777Jet (Reply 3):
Any Aussie A.netters up for some kind of SYD mini-meet on Sat, 25 October???

Saturdays are bad for me during school term. Sundays may work, depending on other commitments. PM me a gmail address if you want to join the Google community.

Okay.

The weather in SYD has been crazy lately...

I wonder if there has been any weather related diversions???

Some of the wind gusts that I got hit with last night were unreal! Fighting the umbrella was a lost cause... I could only imagine a crosswind approach under such conditions but it probably would have been close to if not exceeded the limits anyway...
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:03 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 3):

As a recent arrival to Australia and Sydney, if there is a meeting at YSSY for a bit of spotting and photography please count me in!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:08 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 31):
Some of the wind gusts that I got hit with last night were unreal! Fighting the umbrella was a lost cause... I could only imagine a crosswind approach under such conditions but it probably would have been close to if not exceeded the limits anyway...

The airport was heavily affected with a lot of the bad weather going over the top and a 106 km/h gust of wind reported. Lightning meant aircraft were stuck on the tarmac with baggage loading and other services unable to be performed.

According to SMH:

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Because of the storm, 22 domestic services were diverted or cancelled, seven international services were unable to depart the airport, and three international flights were diverted to Brisbane.

So glad I didn't fly yesterday. We had a very noisy time in the south.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:11 am

Quoting GregB145 (Reply 32):
Quoting 777Jet (Reply 3):

As a recent arrival to Australia and Sydney, if there is a meeting at YSSY for a bit of spotting and photography please count me in!

Welcome to Australia... mate!

Quoting allrite (Reply 33):
a 106 km/h gust of wind reported.

Wow... a gust of 106 km/h... hard to believe given the perfect weather 2 days ago...
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:25 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 30):
Are you able to provide a summary? The article is behind the paywall.

Google News allows access. Search for the title of the article "QantasLink and Rex awarded regional Queensland air routes".

In summary, ZL got 3 routes awarded that used to be operated by Q6 (and ZL kept 2 of it's own routes). QF retained the routes they already operated but will upgauge.

Quote:
QantasLink said the decision meant it would upgrade all Roma, Longreach, Barcaldine and Blackall services to 74-seat Q400 aircraft, while Charleville services will be upgraded to the Q300.
Quoting allrite (Reply 33):
So glad I didn't fly yesterday. We had a very noisy time in the south.

I hear that planes that landed prior to the worst of the weather were not allowed to offload pax while the storm raged. So some pax were stuck onboard for hours.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:01 am

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 35):
I hear that planes that landed prior to the worst of the weather were not allowed to offload pax while the storm raged. So some pax were stuck onboard for hours.      

Yes, it was the first time I had watched Flightradar24 with such diversions (that were going on around SYD last evening). Was wondering if the pax were offloaded yep, but as much as we love flying and being on aircraft, glad not to be flying last night and stuck on getting onto midnight.  
Quoting allrite (Reply 33):
The airport was heavily affected with a lot of the bad weather going over the top and a 106 km/h gust of wind reported. Lightning meant aircraft were stuck on the tarmac with baggage loading and other services unable to be performed.
Quoting allrite (Reply 33):
So glad I didn't fly yesterday. We had a very noisy time in the south.   


Yes, not to mention the knock-on delays the following day. All concerned do a great job in getting it all back on track ASAP though.. and dealing with weary and frustrated pax.   

There was query mention of the SYD curfew on TV news coverage. Not sure about flying hours for crew in these situations either..
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:07 am

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 35):
Google News allows access

Thanks for that.

So QF retained Roma/Charleville (VARA are no doubt spitting fire!) and Blackhall/Barcaldine/Longreach (I think VARA bid on this one as well?)

Rex retained Townsville-Winton-Longreach and the Towsnsville-Mount Isa milk run.

Rex picked up:

Cairns — Normanton — Gununa (Mornington Island) — Burketown -Doomadgee — Mount Isa — Beri
Brisbane -Toowoomba — St George — Cunnamulla — Thargomindah
(BNE?)-Charleville — Quilpie — Windorah — Birdsville-Bedourie — Boulia — Mount Isa

Skytrans is screwed. That's pretty much their entire network gone! All they have left are their routes from CNS to Cape York.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:11 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 34):

Yes BNE got 3 diversions including a Hawaiian 332 ,Fiji 738 and Emirates 380.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:15 am

Skytrans have indeed lost most of their RPT routes but their charter Fifo routes particularly ex BNE still remain.

REX which operate Fifo out of BNE with 2-3 Saabs based here, will now do RPT as well as mentioned previously.Mayby either Skytrans or REX will also look at BNE-TMW and BNE-CFS which have remained flightless since the demise of Brindabella.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:15 am

Quoting VapourTrails (Reply 36):
Quoting allrite (Reply 33):
The airport was heavily affected with a lot of the bad weather going over the top and a 106 km/h gust of wind reported. Lightning meant aircraft were stuck on the tarmac with baggage loading and other services unable to be performed.
Quoting allrite (Reply 33):
So glad I didn't fly yesterday. We had a very noisy time in the south.


Yes, not to mention the knock-on delays the following day. All concerned do a great job in getting it all back on track ASAP though.. and dealing with weary and frustrated pax.

There was query mention of the SYD curfew on TV news coverage. Not sure about flying hours for crew in these situations either..
Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 38):
Quoting 777Jet (Reply 34):

Yes BNE got 3 diversions including a Hawaiian 332 ,Fiji 738 and Emirates 380

Thanks for that info.

Last night was pretty rare.

I have seen plenty of intense storms in Sydney at night but usually they are a one off burst and then bugger off. The one last night came, and went, and then came back... and stayed... at least where I am...
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:17 am

A Super Connie comes home - well, I don't know if it is actually "coming home" because I'm not sure if this particular aircraft ever flew for Qantas, but the type did:

http://australianaviation.com.au/201...-headed-to-qantas-founders-museum/

"Super Constellation headed to Qantas Founders Museum

A Lockheed Super Constellation similar to those flown by Qantas Airways in the 1940s and 1950s will be making the long trek from Manila to outback Queensland after finding a new home at the Qantas Founders Museum.

The museum acquired the Super Constellation, which had been grounded for the past 25 years, at a recent auction of old aircraft organised by the Manila International Airport Authority."


The aircraft isn't airworthy, it will be transported by ship (and then by road) where they will "do it up" - but it's something I would make the trip to Longreach to see.

 

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:20 am

While I am in Australia, I cannot pass up a chance to fly on a F70 with Alliance. I see that they do not serve SYD. I couldn't tell from their timetables what routes it is used on and I didn't see any tracking on Flightaware by looking for active Fokker 70 flights. What routes do they operate on? I was also considering a B717 flight, but since Delta is taking in the B717 I can get that when I return home.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:28 am

Quoting csturdiv (Reply 42):
I cannot pass up a chance to fly on a F70 with Alliance

Unless you get a job as a FIFO miner, good luck with that. Unfortunately they do not operate any scheduled flights. PER-KTA (their only scheduled flight) appears to be operated exclusively by F100s. Previously Alliance operated F100s for both QF and VA, but no longer do so. They do operate F50s for QF on ADL-OLP.

Unfortunately I think you best option to fly on a F70 is on KL from AMS, if you ever find yourself in that part of the world.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:32 am

Quoting csturdiv (Reply 42):
While I am in Australia, I cannot pass up a chance to fly on a F70 with Alliance.

I think you'll be out of luck on that one to be honest. As Alliance is a charter airline, I believe the only flights you can buy tickets on are the odd F100 flight they'll sometimes operate for QF or VA in the eastern states, or strangely the single route PER-KTA they have available on their website. Indeed looking on FlightAware at the regos of their F70s (JFB and E / QQR, V, W, X and Y) they are all strictly operating closed charters.

EDIT: Oops, beaten  Smile

On the subject of charter airlines, I had the chance to fly on a Network Aviation F100 from KTA yesterday as it subbed for a QLink 717 (not sure why, the booking only changed sometime in the last week). Have to admit I came off very unimpressed. Very basic service even for a 2 hour flight, and the plane was quite shabby. Some of the other passengers seemed quite annoyed.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:14 am

Quoting csturdiv (Reply 42):
I cannot pass up a chance to fly on a F70 with Alliance
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 43):
F100s

What a treat that would be!  
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:22 am

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 35):

Thanks for posting that summary mate... I've been running around a bit since posting the original link (which I found through google news, sorry guys!). So yeah, essentially QF maintaining its routes but promising all LRE, BKQ and BCI flights as well as all terminating RMA flights will be upgauged to Q400, all CTL will go to Q300. Imagine that probably leads to a Q300 or two being given the boot.

ZL is the winner picking up three outback routes from Q6 who, sadly, are the loser in this and become essentially a charter operator (as SYD-TWB is already on the chopping block).
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:57 am

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 46):
become essentially a charter operator

They still have their Cape York flights, which is something better than nothing.

They fly from CNS to: Kowanyama, Edward River, Aurukun, Coen, Lockhart River, and Bamaga.

They also fly CNS-ISA without a subsidy/regulated market. Frankly that route sounds like a license to print money, and as they are the only operator on it I am sure they do well. Come to think of it, I'm surprised that QLink haven't jumped into CNS-ISA.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:40 am

In regards to the Fokker 70 i have noticed in the past week it has done both Qantaslink and Virgin flights BNE-GLT which are scheduled RPT flights.

10Oct BNE-GLT QF 2636
10Oct GLT-BNE QF 2637

08Oct BNE-GLT VA 1707
08Oct GLT-BNE VA 1710

You would have to be lucky as obviously both airlines had a tech issue with their aircraft so Alliance helped out.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:33 am

On a side note, who owns the Black B727-200 (wingtips so pressume its a -200) ion the tarmac in PER?? I think it says WESTERN in gold letters and has a red cheatline. been there for 3 days now.
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