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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:44 am

Quoting aryonoco (Reply 149):
Next on my todo list is the 747SP

Unfortunately that ship has just sailed   IR was the final operator of the type, and have just retired their final frame within the last couple of weeks. We're you not able to catch that while in THR?

Quoting aryonoco (Reply 149):
B707 THR - MHD

Words cannot explain how much I would like to have flown that one.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:54 am

Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 136):
and the beautifully fat Airbus A310...

I flew the A310 on NOU-SYD with SB just 13 years ago. I think it was one of the few A310 that ever saw regular service to Australia. Did EK start their original MEL service with an A310 or A330?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:06 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 150):
Unfortunately that ship has just sailed   IR was the final operator of the type, and have just retired their final frame within the last couple of weeks.

Oh no! I totally missed that! Damn!

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 150):
We're you not able to catch that while in THR?

No I couldn't. Last time I was in Iran, the SPs had all gone tech (and I think none of them flew for a few months). They brought them back later though, so I was hopeful I'd be able to catch a ride on one.

I guess I left it too late. Damn, can't believe I missed it.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:09 am

Quoting aryonoco (Reply 152):
They brought them back later though

Given that we are talking about IR, I wouldn't fall over with shock if they reappeared in six months, but for time being they are officially retired.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:46 am

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 135):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 133):
Sydney received a special visitor this evening a Saudi Arabian B772

Hehehe...
You must have been literally standing next to me at the beach to take that photo...did you see the yellow Audi TT? There were quite a few photographers there. I was actually more excited to get the Air Niugini 737-800 with the 'Pacific Games' titles that arrived just before the SV did. And wasn't the light spectaular for photography!
The Saudi 777 was carrying their national soccer team. The team fly out in a week's time so chances are another Saudi 777 will be in to pick them up!
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Hehehe, no all credit goes to Lee Gatland   I'll keep my eyes out for a yellow Audi next time though.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:46 am

I am 60 years old and have done so many different aircraft types from Super VC10,Caravelle,707,2 types of DC8 Variants.A300-B4,A310,727-100 and 200,732,733,734,735,73G,738,DC9-30,717,F27,SH330,SH360,Brasilia,DC3,Electra,742,743,744 etc etc .and that would only be a 3rd of what types i have been on.All the 146's as well as DC10,MD-11.F28-1000 and 4000-and lot's more.

I worked 30 years in the tourist industry which allowed me many flights.

Never been on a 757 or a F100 or F50 or F70.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:46 am

Quoting Bluebird191 (Reply 148):
They do, and Mahan Air still do as well - both from Iran. Would definitely be interesting routes to and from Tehran, but there would be safer or less riskier destinations to travel to in order to fly an A310. Pakistan International are another that still fly on.

Otherwise, Air Transat from Canada is a much easier choice - why not try them? Or something more out of the box - Sata to or from the Azores? They fly the A310 to both Boston and Toronto.

Kuwait Airways, TAROM, Biman, and Ariana are also still flying A310-300s. Personally I'd choose Kuwait...
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:18 am

Quoting tullamarine (Reply 151):
I flew the A310 on NOU-SYD with SB just 13 years ago. I think it was one of the few A310 that ever saw regular service to Australia. Did EK start their original MEL service with an A310 or A330?

How was it?  

PX and SQ use to send their 310's to CNS in the 90's, I am not too sure of any other A310 operators though.

Quoting mariner (Reply 143):
It's almost as if the three sugar-daddies have told JB to make it lovely and not to worry his head about old fashioned ideas like profit.

Hahaha agreed buddy! You would think with all that cash around, there would be some product consistency! Not knocking VA, but if I pay $79 for a flight from Brisbane to Sydney and get a free muffin, and $179 from Brisbane to Townsville and not get a free muffin....... You get the picture.  
Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 138):
I was lucky to fly a Shorts 360 about ~14 years on a regional QLD flight with Sunstate Airlines (i.e. QF). Although I too have many aircraft to still tick off my list    (see my signature below to see what aircraft I've been on on).

Oh man! When I was a kid, I was meant to fly on a Shorts 360 between CNS and TSV on Sunstate. Next thing I know, we were walking towards one of their new Dash 8's. I was a devastated 10 year old.

Quoting aryonoco (Reply 149):
Next on my todo list is the 747SP. If I get to fly that, I think I can happily resign myself to the fact that the rest of my logbook will probably consist of nothing other than A320,A330, A350,A380 and B737,B777 and B787.

As a fellow Gen-Y-er, I am with you buddy. My two most amazing flight experiences was on a PX Fokker F28-4000, and more recently a TG Airbus A300-600.... Amazing! 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:08 pm

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 155):
Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 155):
I am 60 years old and have done so many different aircraft types from Super VC10,Caravelle,707,2 types of DC8 Variants.A300-B4,A310,727-100 and 200,732,733,734,735,73G,738,DC9-30,717,F27,SH330,SH360,Brasilia,DC3,Electra,742,743,744 etc etc .and that

I went on one of those extremely rare 737-100s over with Ansett NZ once.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:10 pm

Quoting tullamarine (Reply 151):
I flew the A310 on NOU-SYD with SB just 13 years ago. I think it was one of the few A310 that ever saw regular service to Australia. Did EK start their original MEL service with an A310 or A330?

EK started their Services to MEL using the 777-200LR (First Carrier to operate the 777 to Australia) twice a week on 26th June 1996 and then increased to 3 times a week and switched to the A310 two months later due to increased loads to LHR and Europe it later came back.

I think I saw A310 at BKK last year in TG colours.

I logged my A310 on SQ SIN/KUL/SIN in May 2001!

Also flew on VH-EAA and VH-EAB 747SP at QF a couple of times between SYD/BNE/CNS on Staff Travel! loved sittng in the Economy section upstairs!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:44 pm

A310 operators into Australia that am aware of were:

Air Niugini - saw it multiple times but never did get a good photo

SIA - I used to fly to Adelaide specifcally to see them and Malaysian DC-10s that never came into Sydney, as well as all the exciting Adelaide-exclusive local 'stuff'

Air Caledonie Intl

Jes Air - I flew to Melbourne specifically to see their A310 because I knew such an obscure route wouldn't last for long

Emirates - same story for me as Jes Air... And how wrong was I about 'the route wouldn't last for long'!!!

Merpati - into Melbourne, if I recall right

Paradise Air, or whatever that Balinese airline that briefly flew in was called

And of course the various VIP/ government/military ones such as RCAF, Luftwaffe and most recently, last month the Spanish Air Force A310.

The only Australian operator was Compass with it's lone A310 that mainly flew out of Adelaide. I flew it once, Sydney to Adelaide. It was my only A310 flight, although another flight on a Swissair A310 was cancelled. I'm so glad I made the effort to specifically book a flight on it.

I agree that the A310 was fat and stubby, and it's wings always looked too small...

I believe that Qantas seriously considered the A310 twice but both times the 767 won out due to it's superior range. I also believe that Air New Zealand wanted to buy the A310 in preference to the767-200ERs but the government of the
time wouldn't let them. Do any of our kiwi a.netters have any more info on this?

I'm sure Ansett would have looked at the A310 at some point, and Ansett Worldwide did order and lease some, but I have never heard any information on them considering the jet seriously.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:22 pm

Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 136):
hahaha! Got ya! Now I know you were just joking about Holden being in your preferred brand list. Audi driver indeed.  

Actually, I was the guy helping the audi driver and his son PUSH the Audi to jump start it after it couldn't be started due to a flat battery.... They were there to see the SV as well and the driver was an army officer, lol. I've owned a sports car in the past (Ryanair, it was a Mitsubishi sports car!) but I love Holdens... A Monaro would've been a dream car of mine, sigh!

Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 136):
As for old aircraft, I am a bit too young to have flown on many of them, although I was blessed with the opportunity to fly on the DC-10 far more times than is reasonable for a Gen Y'er to ever experience.
There are 3 types that I wish I could have flown on, The DC-10, Shorts 360 and the beautifully fat Airbus A310.... Sigh, no chance of flying them now!  

Mate, I have flown in all three types. A Canadian Pacific DC-10 with THE oldest and grumpiest FAs I've ever encountered. Hazelton 360s all over NSW from Sydney - loved them but damn noisy and rough in turbulent weather! Compass A310 Sydney-Adelaide, specifically to log an A310.

Quoting aryonoco (Reply 149):
But I probably don't miss the opportunity to fly a DC-10 as much as I miss not ever flying the L-1011

Mate, I too truly regret not getting a flight on a TriStar but I never really had a chance to do so. I did holiday in Hong Kong when Cathay still had them but at the time, as a poor uni student, couldn't afford a flight on them from HK to wherever and back. My one time in Hawaii was only a short stopover not allowing enough time to take a Hawaiian Airlines flight on one.

I never did get an MD-11 either, sigh!

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 150):
Quoting aryonoco (Reply 149):
B707 THR - MHD
Words cannot explain how much I would like to have flown that one.
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 150):


I second that!

[quote=eaglefarm4,reply=155]Never been on a 757 or a F100 or F50 or F70.

Love my 757s and been on a Hispania one Sydney-Perth and return during the pilots strike plus BA ones in Europe. Would love to fly an Air Niugini one to Port Moresby if they ever lease them again and my holidays match up with the lease... So crushed that Philippines dropped their transTasman 757 plans...

I flew on every Ansett Fokker 50. Great plane. Never flown on any Skywest nor Virgin Australia operated-ones though (although all of them are ex-Ansett ones anyway)

Haven't flown on the Fokker 100 nor 70 yet. Have flown in every model of the F28 though, including the rare -3000s when in East West service.

Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 157):
and more recently a TG Airbus A300-600.... Amazing! 

Mate, I flew on one as well. Plus a TG A300B4 and the A300B4s in TN/QF service and a few Compass A300-600Rs. Always preferred 767s myself...

Quoting packersfan (Reply 158):
I went on one of those extremely rare 737-100s over with Ansett NZ
once.

Wow mate, I'm envious! I love 737s but I can't claim that! Flown on 737-200s, -200QCs, -300s, -400s, -500s, -700s, -800s and hope to get a -900ER of Lion when in Indonesia (hopefully) next year... Given up hope of a -600 as I have no plans for trips to Scandinavia nor Canada in the foreseeable future...

Quoting EK413 (Reply 154):
I take it your a regular at the old ATC?

Yes mate, and the mound plus along Qantas Drive when the infamous gate is open. Just not spotting anywhere near as much as I used to due to distance to Sydney Airport from my place and general busy-ness of my life. Strangely, I tend to do more spotting these days when travelling interstate and overseas. And at Canberra Airport. I will make the effort if, like on Sunday, I know something is coming in that I want to see. For that reason, I will be at Sydney again this Sunday, wink. I really did enjoy my time at Sydney last Sunday however, and photographed much that I wanted to see such as that Air Niugini 737-800 with the extra titles.

Cheers,
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:15 pm

THAI flew the A310 into BNE on at least 2 occasions before they lost one in a crash.

I have also been lucky to fly ERJ135 of Jetgo on their AOC flight 2 years ago, as well as E170,E190 of Virgin and E-195 of Flybe.

One of the classics i also flew was a BAC1-11 of Air Pacific in 1976.

TAA Twin Otter and Flightwest B200 were also good ones as well and there are still lots more.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:10 pm

Quoting cbrboy (Reply 156):
Kuwait Airways, TAROM, Biman, and Ariana are also still flying A310-300. Personally I'd choose Kuwait...

Kuwait would definitely be a good choice, but being one who is hesitant about travelling to or connecting through the Middle East (not just because of the political instability and conflict zones), it would be good to see if KU fly their A310's on any 5th Freedom routes in Europe. Otherwise, I'd personally opt for either SATA or TAROM - simply that they're both lesser known airlines flying to somewhere not quite run of the mill.

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 160):

Can't forget the short lived airline PacificFlier from 2010, which flew initially between Palau and Brisbane, only to inexplicably swap BNE for OOL and send themselves into airline history. BNE was their first route, and IIRC, they were backed financially by people here in SE Qld. They had a sole A310 with 194 seats (18J/176Y), was leased from Hi Fly and still in it's former airline colours - Oman Air. And if memory serves me correctly, loads were shocking - typically went put with just 30 pax (or fewer), even with package promotions like "kids fly and stay free".
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:58 pm

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 155):
Never been on a 757

Not missing much .. I admit it is great up the front with super wide seats when in a standard 2 2 config .. almost as wide as your single seater chair at home. Down the back of the bus it's a difference story. Imagine an aircraft the size of a 762 763 with only a single
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:00 pm

Quoting DJMEL (Reply 159):
EK started their Services to MEL using the 777-200LR (First Carrier to operate the 777 to Australia) twice a week on 26th June 1996

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Quoting Bluebird191 (Reply 163):
it would be good to see if KU fly their A310's on any 5th Freedom routes in Europe.

KU are only scheduling their A343s for the 5th freedom EU flying, with A300s subbing occasionally. KU also have 5th freedom flights BKK-MNL & CGK-KUL but again scheduled on A343s. Their A310s seem to only go to Indian or Middle Eastern cities.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:22 pm

While we are on the subject of older aircraft I've written a short account of my experiences on the Qantas 767s.



I can't even recall all the different aircraft types I have flown (probably a TAA or Ansett trijet at age 1 and something ish: my first solid memory), various turboprops in regional Qld, prolly Dash 8s and maybe a Fokker, a few BAe 146. Maybe a Fokker F70 with KLM. At least my son can say he has flown on quite a few different types. By age 5 he'd done:

A320, A321, A319, A332, A333, A346, 734, 738, 744, 763, 772, F100, Q400, ATR72-500, EMB-190.  
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:45 pm

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 164):
Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 155):
Never been on a 757

Not missing much .. I admit it is great up the front with super wide seats when in a standard 2 2 config .. almost as wide as your single seater chair at home. Down the back of the bus it's a difference story. Imagine an aircraft the size of a 762 763 with only a single

Once you're onboard you could be on a 737. The 753 was very long but fortunately I was in 1st class so didn't have to go through the notoriously slow disembarkation process. Lots of people claim the take-off of the 752 is amazing. Both times I've been on a 757, I've never noticed anything out of the ordinary.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:57 pm

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 164):
I admit it is great up the front with super wide seats when in a standard 2 2 config .. almost as wide as your single seater chair at home. Down the back of the bus it's a difference story

I thought that the 757 and 737 had exactly the same cabin circumference? While people claim that the 757 is more "spacious", and flying both you can definitely get that impression, I was led to believe that there was actually nothing that directly gives rise such a feeling.

I realise that I started this tangent, so apologies for that(!), but this has got me thinking about what I have flown on. It is easy to forget in the mundane world of 737s and A330s we "enjoy" today, but I have actually flown more types that I normally think I have.

Metroliner (so glad I took that opportunity!), Jetstream 41, BAe ATP, ATR-42-200, ATR-72-200, ATR-72-500, Dash-8-200, Dash-8-Q400, ERJ-145, CRJ100, CRJ200, CRJ700, CRJ900, EMB-170, EMB-190, BAC-111, BAe146, 717, MD-80, MD-88, MD-90, 737- 200, 300, 400, 500, 800, A319, A320, A321, 757-200, 767- 200, -300, -400, DC-10-30, A330-200, A340-300, A340-500, A340-600, 777-200, 777-300A/ER, 747-400A/ER, A380.

Aircraft that I am pretty certain I flew on are 727-200, DC-9(-50?), 747-200 plus I think I flew on 737-100*, 737-900A, Avro RJ. (*completely forgotten that one until it was mentioned above!)

I guess my wish list, at least of things that are still flying, are Jetstream 31 (top of my hit list), F50/70/100, A310.

Quoting allrite (Reply 166):
At least my son can say he has flown on quite a few different types. By age 5 he'd done:

A320, A321, A319, A332, A333, A346, 734, 738, 744, 763, 772, F100, Q400, ATR72-500, EMB-190

He is very, very fortunate to have a parent who takes note of these things! My father could be described as an "occasional" aviation enthusiast, but more of the AusBT reader than Anutter variety. He can remember a few details when I press him, but for the most part I don't know much about my previous flying until I can actually remember the details myself.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:16 am

Getting there?:

http://www.theage.com.au/business/av...th-pay-freeze-20141021-1194ba.html

"Qantas engineers reach pay deal, agree to 18-month pay freeze

Aircraft engineers represented by one of the Qantas unions at the centre of the 2011 industrial dispute that grounded the airline have agreed to a new four-year wage deal that includes a pay freeze for the first 18 months.

The settlement is a major step towards achieving the goal of Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce to freeze pay across the company as part of efforts to strip $2 billion in costs from the business within three years."


Still, it's not all beer and skittles:

"Unlike the wage deal with the engineers, a number of short-haul pilots doubt their in-principle agreement will gain approval. Voting for the short-haul pilots' deal closes on October 31.

Despite the settlement with the engineers, talks with the Transport Workers Union, which represents about 2000 Qantas ground staff whose three-year agreement expired on July 1, are showing no signs of an early resolution."


But it's a start.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:22 am

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 155):
Never been on a 757

The 757 is worth trying to get. It took me ages to log one, and since then I have logged dozens, but only one 757-300. It took me ten years of trying to log a 757-300 and since I logged the 753 I feel that the weight of the world is off of my shoulders and equipment changes won't bother me as much as when a 753 flight was swapped away from me. The rocket-like takeoff in a light 757 doing a short hop is awesome! They are quite powerful... But in Y the are not very comfy...

Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 157):
As a fellow Gen-Y-er, I am with you buddy. My two most amazing flight experiences was on a PX Fokker F28-4000, and more recently a TG Airbus A300-600.... Amazing!

I enjoyed my TG A300-600 flights. I really wanted to log an A300 after watching the AA587 accident on Air Crash Investigation... I paid particular attention to rudder movements, especially in chop  
Quoting DJMEL (Reply 159):
I think I saw A310 at BKK last year in TG colours.

Probably an A300. They had a few of them still flying and parked last year. The TG A310s have been out of service for some time, so I doubt there would have been any parked around.

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 164):
Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 155):
Never been on a 757

Not missing much ..

Except for the rocket-like takeoff!

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 164):
Down the back of the bus it's a difference story. Imagine an aircraft the size of a 762 763 with only a single

I intentionally sat in the back of a 757-300 and whilst the time it took to get on and off sucked big time, the feeling of a double-rotation upon liftoff in the long bird felt awesome!

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 129):
As for old aircraft, I am a bit too young to have flown on many of them, although I was blessed with the opportunity to fly on the DC-10 far more times than is reasonable for a Gen Y'er to ever experience.

Likewise!

I've had a lot of DC-10 flights. Many of the ones I logged are still flying with the likes of FedEx.

My first memorable experience was with UA in the DC-10 from DEN to LAX approaching LAX. At the last minute it powered up and aborted the landing because "there was a plane still crossing the runway and I thought it would be a good idea not to have a collision"   What a cool pilot... That was my first go-around or memorable flight experience. However, the following flight, was my next memorable experience. The UA 744 took off from LAX to SYD and one engine had to be shut down 1hr out so we did about 6 circles to dump fuel before returning to LAX with the fire trucks waiting. I was flying as an UM then so I had a lady, a very hot lady, looking after me in the hotel provided that night - the LAX Hilton it was! UA put me of a QF flight the next day though... Can't recall why as I was young and this was about 20 years ago but I'm sure at the time I would have prefered to fly on UA  
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:31 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 168):
I thought that the 757 and 737 had exactly the same cabin circumference? While people claim that the 757 is more "spacious", and flying both you can definitely get that impression, I was led to believe that there was actually nothing that directly gives rise such a feeling.

They do have the exact same barrel. The difference in the 757 was the new nose, the avionics shared with the 767, the new wing and the higher and repositioned landing gear needed to fit the larger engines.

For a while it was expected that the 737NG would adopt much of the 757 modifications including the new nose which offered superior aerodynamics. This never happened largely because of pressure from WN who demanded backward compatability across its 737 fleet. WN was, at the time, Boeing's biggest 737 customer so had a right to exert some influence but over time this has cost Boeing and has now meant that the 737 MAX cannot offer the same power as similar engines on the A320NEO due to engine circumference issues.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:37 am

Qantas press release about the new A330 business seats - to be installed from the end of this year on all A330s. As noted before, you will be able to recline in bed mode from take off to landing.

Qantas engineers agree to pay deal - wage freeze for 18 months then 3% annually. Short-haul pilots have begun to vote on their agreement, though the union claims it is unlikely to pass. (See Mariner's earlier post)

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 168):
I realise that I started this tangent, so apologies for that(!), but this has got me thinking about what I have flown on. It is easy to forget in the mundane world of 737s and A330s we "enjoy" today, but I have actually flown more types that I normally think I have.
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 168):
Metroliner (so glad I took that opportunity!), Jetstream 41, BAe ATP, ATR-42-200, ATR-72-200, ATR-72-500, Dash-8-200, Dash-8-Q400, ERJ-145, CRJ100, CRJ200, CRJ700, CRJ900, EMB-170, EMB-190, BAC-111, BAe146, 717, MD-80, MD-88, MD-90, 737- 200, 300, 400, 500, 800, A319, A320, A321, 757-200, 767- 200, -300, -400, DC-10-30, A330-200, A340-300, A340-500, A340-600, 777-200, 777-300A/ER, 747-400A/ER, A380.
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 168):
He is very, very fortunate to have a parent who takes note of these things!

It's one reason to keep writing trip reports. What a difference a digital camera makes!

Oh, I forgot he's flown the A380 as well, three times.   I'll make a stab at my list. EMB-145, 170, 190, 717, various 737 types (including some of the rarer ones in China), 763, 743, 744 (various), 777-200, A320, A321, A319, A332, A333, A346, A380, Beechcraft 1900D, Shorts 360, Saab 340, various Dash8s, ATR72-500, Fokker F27, maybe a F28, F70, F100, BAe-146. I'd like to try a "new" Qantas 717 and the 787, but I have to admit I'm not desperate to try new or old turboprop types. Wouldn't mind seeing the MRJ in Australia though.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:02 am

I do like the final design of the seats, as the black leather and faux wood look more attractive IMHO than the weird cloth design and metal fittings shown in the initial pictures.

However, it still isn't particularly clear what they are doing with IFE in Y:

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Customers in both cabins on the international A330 aircraft will be able to enjoy the latest Panasonic eX3 inflight entertainment system, with larger seatback touchscreens in addition to Q Streaming technology, enabling them to stream content from an extensive entertainment library directly to their own devices.

Domestic Business Class customers on A330 aircraft will also enjoy the same Panasonic eX3 system, while Economy customers will have an individual inflight entertainment experience through either seatback touchscreens or devices provided by Qantas in every seat

As we already knew the "International" A330s (-300s) were getting AVOD, but this makes it sound as though the "Domestic" A330s (-200s) will have either AVOD or iPads. I am not sure whether they are simply referring to A333s flying domestic routes, or whether some A332s are going to be fitted with AVOD so that they can offer the "International" product to HNL and any other International route served by the A332s.

Also, I'm surprised nobody has picked up on this yet:

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Qantas yesterday announced the construction of a new Domestic Business Lounge in Perth due to open in the third quarter of 2015

A Business Lounge in PER was WAYYYY overdue, so it is good to see that they are finally moving ahead with this.

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 58):
btw Announcement Tuesday 21st


Was this rehashing of old news what JQflightie was referring to, or is there another announcement coming down today? Hmmm.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:12 am

After reading Allrite's touching tribute to the 767 I decided to post my comment here as well as in the other place. It really brought home to me what the 767 means and made me appreciate the void it will leave behind.

Andrew, what a beautiful tribute. You really captured the essence of these wonderful aircraft, and as you say even the most mundane flight between the capitals felt as if it had the potential to take you to a distant land when you were on one of these. While it is easy to say that you don't need wide-body comfort on a one hour flight, reading this suddenly brought home to me what it is that we are about to loose. Godspeed 767, after 30 years in our skies it is time for you to take your final bow, but you can fly off into the sunset knowing that you will not be forgotten by those that knew you.

I should add to the lucky ones among you, enjoy your new life in Canada!
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:28 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 173):
As we already knew the "International" A330s (-300s) were getting AVOD, but this makes it sound as though the "Domestic" A330s (-200s) will have either AVOD or iPads. I am not sure whether they are simply referring to A333s flying domestic routes, or whether some A332s are going to be fitted with AVOD so that they can offer the "International" product to HNL and any other International route served by the A332s.

Some A332s already have seatback screens (thinking of a couple ex-Jetstar). Perhaps they won't refit any in economy but just provide the remainder with iPads. Any news on Qantas offering a flight map service on QStreaming? It would be my number 1 request!
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:36 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 173):
I do like the final design of the seats, as the black leather and faux wood look more attractive IMHO than the weird cloth design and metal fittings shown in the initial pictures.

I'm surprised about how close the seats look to one another. I know there is plenty of legroom under the table of the seat in front but it looks strangely claustrophobic.

I thought the seat could be in bed mode on take-off though the expression is now partially reclined which infers something slightly different. Maybe I misunderstood the earlier announcements.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 173):
As we already knew the "International" A330s (-300s) were getting AVOD, but this makes it sound as though the "Domestic" A330s (-200s) will have either AVOD or iPads. I am not sure whether they are simply referring to A333s flying domestic routes, or whether some A332s are going to be fitted with AVOD so that they can offer the "International" product to HNL and any other International route served by the A332s.

It sounds like the iPads from the retiring 767s may have found a home in Y on some of the A332s.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 173):
Qantas yesterday announced the construction of a new Domestic Business Lounge in Perth due to open in the third quarter of 2015

A Business Lounge in PER was WAYYYY overdue, so it is good to see that they are finally moving ahead with this.

This would appear to be located in the space currently used by VA for its Lounge. Obviously the timing is unclear because Perth Airport's project management of its new terminal has been ordinary and VA are still unsure when it will move into its new terminal.

Quoting allrite (Reply 175):
Any news on Qantas offering a flight map service on QStreaming? It would be my number 1 request!

You're right. Hopefully, it is as good as the map used by VA on its BYOD product. I love the way you can pinch out the map to identify exactly the town you are flying over unlike the current moving map used on most IFE systems where the plane on the map seems to cover half a state.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:42 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 173):
As we already knew the "International" A330s (-300s) were getting AVOD, but this makes it sound as though the "Domestic" A330s (-200s) will have either AVOD or iPads. I am not sure whether they are simply referring to A333s flying domestic routes, or whether some A332s are going to be fitted with AVOD so that they can offer the "International" product to HNL and any other International route served by the A332s.

A332s will mostly have a Y seat "re-fresh" with new padding & covers. Not sure about the international config A332s though - I can't imagine they will keep the tiny screens so they will probably get new seats as per the A333s.

Quoting allrite (Reply 175):
Some A332s already have seatback screens (thinking of a couple ex-Jetstar). Perhaps they won't refit any in economy but just provide the remainder with iPads.

AFAIK for the domestic config A332s they will keep any seat back AVOD if it exists already, but if for those without then it will be QStreaming only.

Also interesting to note that the debut of the new A330 cabin will be on domestic flying to PER in December, with international starting in January.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:43 am

I Don't post much but thought I would join in with the types flown.

I only had my first flight in 03 so missed out on a lot of Aircraft
I have flown A320,A321,A332,A388,B737,B738,B744,B752,B763,B788,Q400 and a Bell 206LR

I will be adding A333 in 2 weeks and hopefully an ERJ-170 or ERJ-190 soon.

Bit jealous of my sister, she flew several aircraft on her last trip to the US that I wish I had, eg. B753, B77L, MD-90, She wouldn't even know the difference.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:16 am

I really like the new business seats, but are they leather or cloth? Or domestic gets leather, and international gets cloth? Or has someone in QFs PR team sloppily put two photos in by accident? How many A332s currently don't have any PTVs, and how many have the old Rockwell Collins system?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:53 am

I know I don't post much or add much in the way of discussion, but may as well chip in with a/c I've flown on:

B738, 739, 744ER, 753, 763, 763ER (my first ever flight), 77L, 773, 77W, A320, A332, A333, A388, MD82, 717, CR9, F100, 146, RJ100.

Not a substantial list by any means, but I'm happy with it. Managed to tick off three types from my wish list on a trip to the states last year (747, 757 and MD80), and the CR9 was booked just as something different. I thought I was on a 752 MCO-ATL, but on looking up the registration it was actually a rare 753! Kicking myself I didn't really pay much more attention or go up the back to get a pic of how long that plane is.

My wish list would be the 787, E190 (will be able to tick this within a year regardless), F50, MD11 (clearly never going to happen, but I can dream...), and would love to go on a 744 again before they're gone. A turbo-prop of any sort would be more than welcome, as I have experience only jet aircraft.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:11 am

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 164):

Down the back of a 757 is just the same as any other aircraft in terms of seat width.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:14 am

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 161):
Never flown on any Skywest nor Virgin Australia operated-ones though (although all of them are ex-Ansett ones anyway)

Not all! VH-FNE and FNF aren't the original Ansett birds, Skywest acquired the current ones from Europe around 8 years ago. VH-FSL was delivered from KLM around a half decade back. Some interesting but ultimately useless info - not sure about FSL, but there are some configuration differences with FNE and FNF compared to the rest of the fleet... there's either 2 fewer or 2 more seats than the rest (I can't remember which it was though) resulting in a slightly different cabin/galley config.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:07 am

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 162):

A few more are 762,763,332,333,772,773,A380,Do 328 Jet,Dash 8-100,200,300,Q400,ATR72-500 .Because of my job in QLD i did many flights on seaplanes as well,which included Nomad with floats,Otter,Beaver Lake Buccaneer etc.Also flew on the Ansett S61 helicopters to Hayman.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:53 am

Perth has been seeing the EK A380 on the DXB-SYD route create a gorgeous jetstream over the city numerous times in the past few months. It looks absolutely incredible! My friend thought it was a rocket at first when it first appeared out over the ocean.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:59 am

Ok, we have 707-300, 717, 727-100/200, 737-200/300/400/700/800, 747-100/200/200SCD/300/400/400ER/SP, 757-200, 767-200/300, 777-200ER/LR/300ER, DC3, DC6, DC9-30/50/80, DC10-10/30/40, MD80/88, MD11, A300B4, A300-600, 320, 321, 332, 333, 343, 380, L1011, L1011-500, F50, ATR42, CV580, Turbo Mallard, Twin Otter, Dash 8-100/200/300/400, Metro, B1900D, EMB 120, 135, 145, CRJ 700/900, BAE146-100.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:20 am

I just booked my last every Qantas 767 flight between Sydney and Brisbane!! Hoping no last minute equipment changes.   

Quoting allrite (Reply 166):
At least my son can say he has flown on quite a few different types.

Does he have a favorite? 

My 9 year old niece does not have a favorite aircraft, but I have turned her into an airline snob!... If its not Qantas, forget it (Mind you, I think her "loyalty" has more to do with the Pancake machine at the Qantas Club)!!!  
Quoting 777Jet (Reply 170):
I enjoyed my TG A300-600 flights. I really wanted to log an A300 after watching the AA587 accident on Air Crash Investigation... I paid particular attention to rudder movements, especially in chop

I did BKK to HKT on the TG A300... Took off like a rocket, absolutely amazing!!

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 173):
Was this rehashing of old news what JQflightie was referring to, or is there another announcement coming down today? Hmmm.

I thought today was going to be a big day at QFHQ... I thought maybe a there would be a more exciting announcement?  

Any one know when the new seat maps will be released?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:33 am

Can I have my 2 cents worth?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:33 am

Quoting ben175 (Reply 185):
Perth has been seeing the EK A380 on the DXB-SYD route create a gorgeous jetstream over the city numerous times in the past few months. It looks absolutely incredible! My friend thought it was a rocket at first when it first appeared out over the ocean.

Wow, a SYD-DXB flight overflying PER? That's quite a long detour (south) of where the flight would normally track (around Broome) and even quite south for MEL-DXB. I'm guessing seasonal wind/jet-streams causing this southerly routing?

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:49 am

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 189):
Wow, a SYD-DXB flight overflying PER?

I think he said the other direction, DXB-SYD. I know QF10 (DXB-MEL) has been showing itself over or even south of PER of late.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:58 am

Quoting TN486 (Reply 190):
I think he said the other direction, DXB-SYD. I know QF10 (DXB-MEL) has been showing itself over or even south of PER of late.

My bad, he did say DXB-SYD   
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:30 pm

My Airbus flights:
A300B4, A300-600; A300-600R
A310-300
A319-100
A320-200
A321-100
A330-200; A330-300
A340-500

My BAe flights:
146-100; 146-200; 146-200QC; 146-300; RJ85
748

My DC/MD flights:
DC-3s of all kinds
DC-9-30
MD-82; MD-83
DC-10-30

My Shorts flights:
360-300

My DHC flights:
Dash 8-100; Dash 8-300; Q300; Q400
Twin Otter 300

Boeing and others to come!
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:57 pm

Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 187):
Does he have a favorite? 

He's not hot on identifying individual aircraft types (which is to say that he could if he could be bothered to) but I suspect that it might be the Qantas 767 due to the Disney Planes experience and the presence of iPads. I'm sure the refurbished QF 747s rate highly too, as unlike the MH 738s equipped with seatback IFE, they have games loaded.  
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:19 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 181):
Down the back of a 757 is just the same as any other aircraft in terms of seat width.

I 100% agree
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:51 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 181):
Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 164):

Down the back of a 757 is just the same as any other aircraft in terms of seat width.

  

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 194):
Quoting 777ER (Reply 181):
Down the back of a 757 is just the same as any other aircraft in terms of seat width.

I 100% agree

     

Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 187):
I did BKK to HKT on the TG A300... Took off like a rocket, absolutely amazing!!



Did you notice the flapless takeoff???


As for my list of types... the important ones are listed in my signature... Others include E-170 / E-175, CRJ 700 / CRJ 900LR and other small things like that  
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:59 am

Does anybody have an idea on TG's plans for SYD around 12 months for now?

I remember they announced a switch to the 77W for a while but that never went ahead (IIRC) so the 744s remain. Apart from QF, TG is the only other 747 pax operator to SYD. However, I would not be surprised if TG accelerated the retirement of its 744s during its restructuring.

So, if anybody has an idea of TGs plans for SYD 1 year from now I'd love to hear them - especially any predictions on what type will be operating the flights. I still think the 744s might be doing SYD, but if they are swapped out I think maybe 77Ws would take over - I'd love to see the return of the A340-600 though! And, the A380s were mentioned at one stage... 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:03 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 196):
Does anybody have an idea on TG's plans for SYD around 12 months for now?

Does anyone have an idea on TG's plans for SYD around 12 days from now?

      

Let's face it, they are all over the place when it comes to fleet scheduling, and anything they say should be taken with a truck load of salt. If a 77W turned up on Friday nobody would be too surprised.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:31 am

As an aside to QF's A330 upgrade plans, it's interesting to note that VH-EBL is operating BNE-HKG today while VH-EBG is operating QF81 SYD-SIN. So I'd imagine the QF AVOD configured A332's will be regularly rotated through International whereas the iPad A332's will be exclusively domestic.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:41 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 196):
Does anybody have an idea on TG's plans for SYD around 12 months for now?

I remember they announced a switch to the 77W for a while but that never went ahead (IIRC) so the 744s remain. Apart from QF, TG is the only other 747 pax operator to SYD. However, I would not be surprised if TG accelerated the retirement of its 744s during its restructuring.

it was actually meant to be the standard 777-300's not the ER's.

TG are nothing if not interesting when it comes to aircraft types, but to have a stab at aircraft types in 12 months to SYD, I'll go a daily 773 or 773ER and a 4 or 5 weekly 787.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 108

Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:08 am

What do people think of the prospects of the proposed A321NEOLR (or whatever Airbus ends up calling it) for Australia?

With a proposed 3900nm range it would put all of Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines and even southern Thailand and Vietnam within narrowbody reach of MEL and SYD. Of course it would cover even more of Asia from BNE and PER.

Would an Aussie LCC be able to use such an aircraft to open long-and-thin routes to secondary cities in these countries? I'm thinking of places like PEN and BKI, or other secondary and/or tourist destinations that are not currently directly served from Australia. Conversely, someone like Air Asia X might be able to use it to fly from secondary Australian cities to places like HKT and DPS.

I'm always fascinated by the opportunities a new aircraft brings to (potentially) change the market. Of course one could say that the 757 could do all these missions but never caught on here, but I'd counter that the market is very different from 15 years ago. The S.E Asia market in particular is far more developed than it was back then, and obviously the volume of traffic between Australia and these countries is many times greater than it was back when the 757 was on offer. Add in the 25% less operating cost of a A321NEOLR (vs a 757-200) and I think there might just be a business case here.

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