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Cargo Via Concorde

Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:36 pm

During the period of time where BA and AF operated scheduled Concorde flights between JFK, CDG, and LHR did the aircraft regularly carry manifested cargo? Did BA and AF Cargo sell the option to customers at an additional cost or were small items (obviously palletized/large shipments could not fit) loaded as if the flight was a standard AF/BA flight? I'm strictly speaking about non-escorted (courier service) shipments.

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RE: Cargo Via Concorde

Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:51 pm

Yes absolutely. Small parcels and courier packages were the norm on the Concorde.
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RE: Cargo Via Concorde

Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:07 am

Mainly on board courier shipments and mainly on the BA evening flight to JFK
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RE: Cargo Via Concorde

Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:04 pm

If I remember right there was even a special IATA freight rate published for it too. But as everyone's eluded to so far, shipments would have only been small packages in any case, so mostly minimum charges I would have imagined with higher airline handling surcharges.
 
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RE: Cargo Via Concorde

Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:58 pm

Quoting JAGflyer (Thread starter):
During the period of time where BA and AF operated scheduled Concorde flights between JFK, CDG, and LHR did the aircraft regularly carry manifested cargo?

The Integrator I work for regulary (meaning daily) sent ´left over´express document shipments on BA001 to JFK without OBC. This was regular manifested express freight that would take the first departure out of Cologne to LHR each morning to connect to 001!
Intrestingly enough, this material always reached JFK at the same time or sooner that our own US bound departure x CGN.
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RE: Cargo Via Concorde

Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:26 pm

At the Museum of Flight in Scotland where BOAA is they say that Concorde regularly carried high value cargo across the Atlantic. Normally diamonds or other jewellery worth at least tens of thousands of dollars or in some cases packages of banknotes.
 
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RE: Cargo Via Concorde

Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:30 pm

When FedEx was first contemplating European service, they entertained the idea of getting Concordes. Not sure how much of that is urban legend, but during this same period there was also talk of getting cargo blimps.
 
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RE: Cargo Via Concorde

Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:31 am

Quoting cougar15 (Reply 4):
OBC

What is OBC?
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RE: Cargo Via Concorde

Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:43 am

Quoting brilondon (Reply 7):

Quoting cougar15 (Reply 4):
OBC

What is OBC?

On board cargo
 
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RE: Cargo Via Concorde

Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:20 am

No it stands for ON BOARD COURIER

but on board cargo was a good one  

I was affiliated with a courier company whose CEO used Concorde regularly and quite often and he usually took some courier material along, getting his businesss trips paid by customers,
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RE: Cargo Via Concorde

Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:45 am

Quoting JohnJ (Reply 6):
When FedEx was first contemplating European service, they entertained the idea of getting Concordes. Not sure how much of that is urban legend, but during this same period there was also talk of getting cargo blimps.

I was starting in the aviation finance industry around this time. Any business that expressed even the remotest interest in buying, leasing or sharing a Concorde, was enough for the manufacturers to commission a model with the company's logo. I cannot recall a Fedex model.

Some on board couriers had more flight time than flight crews by the time the fleets were withdrawn. Goodness knows how much champagne (I mean sparkling mineral water) they would have consumed in that time.

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