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dcaord
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AA 321B Routes

Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:13 pm

What routes are the 2-class 321B's currently flying, and what routes are planned for the upcoming months/year?

Also, are there any photos out there of the exterior and interior of the 2-class 321?
 
mhkansan
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:15 pm

They are now on all sorts of routes, you can find them in MIA, DFW, and LAX.
DFW-LAX
DFW-LAS
DFW-SFO
DFW-MIA
MIA-LAX
and more. Those are just off the top of my head.
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:29 pm

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 1):
and more. Those are just off the top of my head.

Add to those MIA-MCO, LAS-LAX and MIA-LAS.

Flew N118NN (the first A321B delivered to AA) 2 days ago on AA228 LAX-MIA, very comfortable ride! here's a couple pictures of the interior:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5608/14918266213_fd89e188fd_b.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3949/15352807270_ffe73cf043_b.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3946/15538441585_97537d824a_b.jpg
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:06 am

Quoting NachoJFX (Reply 2):

Great photos, mate!
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dcaord
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:08 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 3):
Great photos, mate!

I second that!

Does anyone know if there are any routes planned from ORD using the 321B?
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:25 am

Quoting NachoJFX (Reply 2):

Nice! I've been searching for these photos for a while bu nobody has taken any until now.
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:03 am

The picture quality is great, but the fish-eye effect is a little disorienting. With that said, I'll be heading to Founders Plaza to catch a photo of one at DFW ASAP!

[Edited 2014-10-14 18:04:18]
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:10 am

Quoting NachoJFX (Reply 2):
Flew N118NN (the first A321B delivered to AA) 2 days ago on AA228 LAX-MIA, very comfortable ride!

Agreed! I flew on N121AN LAS-LAX two weeks ago and it felt like a completely different airline than the 737 I had for LAX-MIA, even with the Boeing Sky Interior. The A321S is now my favorite aircraft in the AA fleet.

One question, though: Are the A321S Main Cabin seats the same as the much maligned ones on the A319?
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:16 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 7):
One question, though: Are the A321S Main Cabin seats the same as the much maligned ones on the A319?

No, I believe the 321B main cabin seats are the same as the 773 main cabin seats. The blue cloth.


I'm sure it's just me, but I really prefer cloth over leather. one of the reasons i love flying AA over airlines like Delta.
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:17 am

I flew AA 319s DFW-ATL-DFW on basically 2-hour trips. I found the Main Cabin seats to be plenty comfortable. I did have my reservations at first, based on how they looked, but they turned out to be fine for me.
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:27 am

Quoting dcaord (Reply 8):
No, I believe the 321B main cabin seats are the same as the 773 main cabin seats. The blue cloth.

They're definitely not cloth.

Personally, I prefer the leather.
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:29 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 10):
They're definitely not cloth.

Personally, I prefer the leather.

Check out the very first photo here. Definitely cloth: http://upgrd.com/blogs/doublewidesfl...lax-jfk-flagship-first-review.html
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:35 am

Quoting dcaord (Reply 11):
Check out the very first photo here. Definitely cloth:

Check out the photos posted in this thread. Also, I have personally been on the aircraft (the A321S, not the A321T). The Main Cabin seats are leather.
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:47 am

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 1):
They are now on all sorts of routes, you can find them in MIA, DFW, and LAX.
DFW-LAX
DFW-LAS
DFW-SFO
DFW-MIA
MIA-LAX
and more. Those are just off the top of my head.

Adding a couple more routes currently served by the 32B

LAX-LAS
MIA-MCO
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:55 am

I'm seeing quite a few A321B's at DFW now & they look great.

The new livery looks really nice on that long slender fuselage.

Should look even better when the new NEO's arrive with those

big engines
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:24 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 7):
The A321S is now my favorite aircraft in the AA fleet.

Well me too, with the A319. I love both the 319 and the 321. But to be honest with you, I would choose to fly on a 757 or an MD-80 over those simply because the 57 and the S80 are on their way out, especially the S80, and it is now time to catch a ride on those before it's too late. It is now getting difficult to catch them.

NachoJFX, thanks for posting those pictures. The 321 looks like a fantastic aircraft to fly on, I'm glad AA is adding those in their domestic fleet. I have flown on it with BA from LHR to BRU and back to LHR about two years ago, and I was really impressed with the aircraft itself how modern, clean and how silent it was. I flew a few months ago on a US 319 from CLT to LGA and I found it pretty comfy.

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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:28 am

Quoting American 767 (Reply 15):

How many 757s are they getting rid of? Seems like between AA and US they have quite a few from between 1995-2002.
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:42 am

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 16):
How many 757s are they getting rid of?

PMAA has about 80 of them left, including the ones flying internationally. So overall with the ex-US 757s there must be about 100 of them left. According to wiki, the last one is scheduled to leave in 2019, but of course that is subject to change depending on the economy and the market circumstances. So I would say they are phasing roughly 20 of them out per year for the next 5 years, that is what I estimate.
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:44 am

Quoting American 767 (Reply 17):
According to wiki, the last one is scheduled to leave in 2019, but of course that is subject to change depending on the economy and the market circumstances. So I would say they are phasing roughly 20 of them out per year for the next 5 years, that is what I estimate.

Yeah but wiki? That's not exactly an up to date reliable source. I think the US and AA configured TATL 757s would stay for quite a while longer.
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:56 am

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 18):
Yeah but wiki? That's not exactly an up to date reliable source. I think the US and AA configured TATL 757s would stay for quite a while longer.

I think you are right. It is the domestic 757s that will be phased out by 2019, I know wiki is not always a reliable source but they are specific about that. They are specifying that it is the domestic 757s that are scheduled to leave in 2019 but they are not saying anything for the international 757s so yes those are likely to stay a little longer. True I should have been more specific in my last post.
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:33 pm

Guys remember the economy seats on the a321T are cloth and in the a321S there leather. I believe they did this because cloth seats are better for longhual flights instead of leather.
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:04 pm

Here's one wandering around FLL-a welcome break from the 738 fleet:

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2950/15501360372_2b7f90822a_c.jpg
Oh wait, upon closer inspection, this appears to be an American Airlines D/B/A US Airways repainted A321...

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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:11 pm

What is a A321B or A321S? Is that an official Airbus designation? Where does it stand for?
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:19 pm

Quoting kl911 (Reply 22):
What is a A321B or A321S? Is that an official Airbus designation? Where does it stand for?

It is an American Airlines term that distinguishes between the internationally configured 321s and domestic counterparts.

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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:20 pm

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 9):
I flew AA 319s DFW-ATL-DFW on basically 2-hour trips. I found the Main Cabin seats to be plenty comfortable.

I flew a 319 ATL-DFW, and it was one of the most uncomfortable flights I've ever been in. Although the seat itself was OK, the pitch seemed tight, and the IFE box under the seat in front of me affected my ability to store my bag and make my legs comfortable.

Now that I've logged an AA A319, I will avoid them as much as possible!
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:50 pm

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 23):
It is an American Airlines term that distinguishes between the internationally configured 321s and domestic counterparts.




More specifically, there are three seating configurations for the A321 - three class configuration for transcontinental flights JFK-LAX/SFO and a two class configuration. Now, the two class configuration will have a limited number of ETOPS aircraft and the rest will be non-ETOPS. So, as I am told by my friends at AA, the internal AA subfleet codes are 32T (three class), 32H (two class/ETOPS) and 32S (two class/non-ETOPS.

Keep in mind that both the three class A321 and two class A321(s) are sold using the IATA code 32B. The IATA code 32B represents the Airbus A321 with sharklets (which AA is taking delivery of). Since the IATA code is based on the aircraft and not configuration, all Airbus A321 which AA is taking delivery of are sold using the IATA 32B code.

Some at AA commonly call the differnt configurations A321T, A321S and possibly (depending on who you are talking to) A321H. The A321B means nothing to any of the people I regularly talk to at AA.
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:58 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 17):
PMAA has about 80 of them left, including the ones flying internationally. So overall with the ex-US 757s there must be about 100 of them left. According to wiki, the last one is scheduled to leave in 2019, but of course that is subject to change depending on the economy and the market circumstances. So I would say they are phasing roughly 20 of them out per year for the next 5 years, that is what I estimate.

81 active 757's for PMAA to be precise
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:38 pm

Legacy American Airlines (LAA) currently operates two configurations of the Airbus A321:

Airbus A321 Transcontinental
17 aircraft, nose numbers 793 thru 799
10 First Class/20 Business Class/36 Main Cabin Extra/36 Main Cabin (102 total)
Equipment type code 32B
Internal designation 321T
"A321T" on safety cards

Airbus A321 Standard
8 aircraft, nose numbers 850 thru 857, more on order
16 First Class/36 Main Cabin Extra/129 Main Cabin (181 total)
Equipment type code 32B
Internal designation 321H
"A321S" on safety cards
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:09 pm

When (or if) can we expect to see the AA 321B fly on US Airways routes such as SFO/LAX/PHL to PHL/CLT?
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:02 pm

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 27):
Airbus A321 Standard
8 aircraft, nose numbers 850 thru 857, more on order
16 First Class/36 Main Cabin Extra/129 Main Cabin (181 total)
Equipment type code 32B
Internal designation 321H
"A321S" on safety cards

Originally, all the A321s with 181 seats were going to be designated as A321S. However, the new management decided to not get the ETOPS certification on A321s but were stuck with a dozen or so that were already in the delivery process. Hence the A321H designation for those aircraft. The company is said to be still considering Hawaii routes but there are several operational issues with using the A321s out of Hawaii. The non ETOPS A321s will be designated as A321S.
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:20 am

As much as I love ORD and AA, I don't know why AA didn't sell the ORD assets during Chapter 11. There is clearly no intent to make ORD a hub (cut EU flights - not that there was much to cut, is RJ heavy, is the only "Corner-stone" market without 321B, 757, or 77W aircraft). I know that if AA didn't want ORD (or Chicago and the corporate contracts that UA pissed AAway), this would have gone during Chapter 11. I wish AA would trade/swap/whatever you want to call it ORD to DL for DTW/MSP. DL would make ORD work, and AA could then focus on DFW, MIA, PHL, CLT, and whatever they decide to do with LAX/PHX. Call me cynical, but AA needs to shit or get off the pot with ORD! AA is fortunate they are competing with UA at ORD, which is probably the most incompetent major airline in the free-world, benefiting from hubs in the right locations (and oil boom in Houston, although that is at risk now with WTI at $80/bbl).
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:30 am

Quoting nomorerjs (Reply 30):
As much as I love ORD and AA, I don't know why AA didn't sell the ORD assets during Chapter 11. There is clearly no intent to make ORD a hub (cut EU flights - not that there was much to cut, is RJ heavy, is the only "Corner-stone" market without 321B, 757, or 77W aircraft). I know that if AA didn't want ORD (or Chicago and the corporate contracts that UA pissed AAway), this would have gone during Chapter 11. I wish AA would trade/swap/whatever you want to call it ORD to DL for DTW/MSP. DL would make ORD work, and AA could then focus on DFW, MIA, PHL, CLT, and whatever they decide to do with LAX/PHX. Call me cynical, but AA needs to shit or get off the pot with ORD! AA is fortunate they are competing with UA at ORD, which is probably the most incompetent major airline in the free-world, benefiting from hubs in the right locations (and oil boom in Houston, although that is at risk now with WTI at $80/bbl).

what does this have to do with the 321 discussion?

it warrants a location other than here..for a very robust discussion
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:41 am

Quoting MSJYOP28Apilot (Reply 29):
Originally, all the A321s with 181 seats were going to be designated as A321S. However, the new management decided to not get the ETOPS certification on A321s but were stuck with a dozen or so that were already in the delivery process. Hence the A321H designation for those aircraft. The company is said to be still considering Hawaii routes but there are several operational issues with using the A321s out of Hawaii. The non ETOPS A321s will be designated as A321S.

There is a difference between the internal designators and the ones the public sees. The 321H and 321S are both marketed as the A321S.
 
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RE: AA 321B Routes

Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:49 am

Any chance of the new 321 flying SFO-MIA?

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