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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:53 am

EW flights from Cgn are operated by crews from Sun Express Germany and flights to Bangkok operate to DMK.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:24 am

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 133):
This is a bad example of bad journalism, such an article is not fit for the FAZ which Claims that there is always a "smart head behind". I hope that this will not lead to more knee jerk reactions from similar ill informed politicians.

And I always thought the FAZ is a serious publication, not a tabloid like the one with the four letters. Hell, I would expect a stunt like that from an even less serious medium, like RTL.

These are the kind of events that may eventually lead to airports closing to the public and requring people to show proof of flight (ticket, ID/passport) before allowing them to enter, all thanks to this fear monging. And not only here in Germany, but possibly also throughout the EU.

In places like HAM, where a big part of the Airport Plaza is located landside, this could be bad for business (especially for the Edeka that opens 7 days a week there). The same for other airports that also have non-flying patronage thanks to the stores that are landside.
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:35 am

Rebrand AB as Air Deutch or Air Germany, hub at Munich and Dusseldorf, be a full service carrier like KLM, without first class service.

Niki can be the LCC arm.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:32 am

Seems like airBaltic is really happy with the sales of its new Tallinn-Berlin/Vienna route. In the first six weeks they sold over 3.000 tickets.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:20 am

The following is a good synopsis of LH 2014 financial results from today's earnings call.
http://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Luftha...he-Baustellen-article14683406.html
Sorry, to our non German speakers.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:41 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 138):
The following is a good synopsis of LH 2014 financial results from today's earnings call.
http://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Luftha...he-Baustellen-article14683406.html
Sorry, to our non German speakers.

Non germans, dont worry. Nothing really new in it. Stiff competition from ME3 + TK and all the LCCs. High labor cost in general and heavy yield errosion. What I dont get is the expected cost reduction of 40% at EW. Total cost or just labour? With fuel, fees and other things beeing the same for everybody, how can you achieve an overall 40% cost reduction on LR? More seats and labourcost will achieve this? Or are they mixing this up?
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:22 pm

Better than the media Report is this unfiltered press release

http://www.lufthansagroup.com/de/pre...ve/2015/march/12/article/3455.html

which is available in English as well.

Bottom line, the Group is able to finance itself without outside help and is constantly improving and adjusting ist operations to current Standards.
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:31 pm

Don't have the link on hand but there is a press release confirming two Darwin Saabs will fly for AB from Mid-April. This also comes with new routes, as well as frequency increases.

All from Mid-April:

TXL-PRG new 3x daily S20
TXL-BLL new 1x daily S20
TXL-GDN increases from 2x DH4 to 3x S20
TXL-GRZ increases from 1x DH4 to 2x DH4
TXL-WAW increases from 3x DH4 to 4x DH4
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:13 pm

Quoting galleypower (Reply 139):
Non germans, dont worry. Nothing really new in it.

  

Quoting galleypower (Reply 139):
What I dont get is the expected cost reduction of 40% at EW. Total cost or just labour

40% sounds about right for how much more LH pays for labor compared to LCCs.

Quoting theearlybird (Reply 141):
Darwin Saabs will fly for AB from Mid-April

Excellent move!   
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:38 pm

Quoting galleypower (Reply 139):
What I dont get is the expected cost reduction of 40% at EW. Total cost or just labour?

Cost per available seat mile (CASM). Obviously, 40% cannot be achieved by cost reductions alone due to the largly inflexible cost structure of long haul flying. CASM factors in the seating density which will be greatly increased compared to traditional Lufthansa arrangements.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:28 pm

Newest reports say that Mr. Mehdorn demands another 1.2 billion Euros to "finish" BER until 2017, else the construction work will be "stopped". Whatever that means in this context.


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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:53 pm

seems like LH pilots will go on strike yet another time:
Wed., 18MAR, whole day on short- and middlehaul flights affected.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:47 am

[[quote=uberflieger,reply=142]
40% sounds about right for how much more LH pays for labor compared to LCCs.[/Quote)


Mr. Mehdorn had his last working day on Friday 13th. The additional dough is for Expansion, as the Airport terminal will be too small whenever the place will open, plus financing costs of the previous "over Budget" expenses.

There is an another thread where this Topic is discussed.
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:16 am

BER supposedly will become a Ryanair Transatlantic gateway  http://www.theguardian.com/travel/20...flights-between-europe-and-america

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 145):
LH pilots will go on strike yet another time

Once again messing with my travel plans, never mind the crucial restructuring for the company.   
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:58 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 147):

Once again messing with my travel plans

At this point, I hope I can avoid LH when I go down to SJO this Christmas. Their direct flight to PTY is tempting, and so far, I've had good experiences with LH but I don't want the unions messing with my plans either.

Question: Yesterday, at around 2100 hrs LT, it seems that departures out of HAM were far different than usual, flying a route west of the U-Bahn station Ohlsdorf, as if they were perhaps departing from RW 15 (though with a 090 wind at the time, IMO RW 05 would have been the more convenient choice). Anyone know what's up with that? Usually, at that time of day, most aircraft depart and land via RW 23, though RW 05 departures aren't unusual either.
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:27 pm

I am not sure if this was mentioned in any of the links, however there was a Q400 delivered to AB with a mostly white livery. Will this be the new "revised" livery for AB?

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/pho...air-berlin-bombardier-dash-8-q402/
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:09 pm

Chalair will launch Lyons - Cologne route starting 13APR :

CE 091 LYS 630 - 810 CGN 1234 BEH
CE 093 LYS 1300 - 1440 CGN 5 BEH
CE 095 LYS 1800 - 1940 CGN 1234 BEH

CE 092 CGN 835 - 1015 LYS 1234 BEH
CE 094 CGN 1505 - 1645 LYS 5 BEH
CE 096 CGN 2005 - 2145 LYS 1234 BEH
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:01 pm

Another new route starting 29MAR: Stuttgart to Amsterdam

Sun 14:05 Stuttgart (STR) 1 15:30 Amsterdam (AMS)
4U 2180 Non-stop Airbus A319 (319) 1:25 Effective from 2015-03-29
Mon-Fri 15:35 Stuttgart (STR) 1 17:00 Amsterdam (AMS)
4U 2180 Non-stop Airbus A319 (319) 1:25 Effective from 2015-03-30

Sun 16:05 Amsterdam (AMS) 17:25 Stuttgart (STR) 1
4U 2181 Non-stop Airbus A319 (319) 1:20 Effective from 2015-03-29
Mon-Fri 17:35 Amsterdam (AMS) 18:55 Stuttgart (STR) 1
4U 2181 Non-stop Airbus A319 (319) 1:20 Effective from 2015-03-30

I already booked this flight for the end of April. Quite surprised to see the A319 rather than CR9 on this route, though!
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:50 pm

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaf...der-firmengeschichte-13508972.html

This has not been posted so far. Air Berlin now with a new record loss.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:05 pm

I really wonder how much equity they have left and who is bridging them into the rescue. It cannot be EY because they would exceed the 49% rule by far.

Or is it by "ordre de Mutti" who does not want to be the scape goat for the bankcruptcy pof AB? Comes really handy that LH is having to deal with the Crash right now and cannot need more bad publicity.
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:25 pm

The big question is how they want to get out of this mess. The fuel prices went down, load factor and pax numbers went up and they lost more money.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:48 pm

Quoting seahawk (Reply 152):
This has not been posted so far

Glad you did   

It's very bad news and the "Preisverfall" isn't going to stop. Airberlin will face a lot more competition with Eurowings, Ryanair, etc., and everybody knows that.
I believe Pischler was brought in to pretty up AB for speed dating and to marry her off to a LCC.
What do you guys think of Airberlin operated by Vueling?  
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:42 am

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 155):
What do you guys think of Airberlin operated by Vueling?

I think it makes a lot of sense operationally. But EY will have a say on that, and they will not want to give away their foothold in Europe to IAG, since VY-AB would imply EY getting out of the shareholding and IAG (+ QR?) getting in. And EY considers AB a strategic investment, otherwise they wouldn't be keeping it alive so long.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:07 am

I would rather like to know where the loss is made. I flew quite few legs with AB within Europa last year and the load factors were always very good.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:46 pm

Lets wait till the final numbers are out which is supposed to be end of April.

Something completely different, although already mewntioned in the Crash thread
Alice Schwarzer, feminist and founder of "EMMA" Magazine suggsted that Airlines should have a women's pilot quota. Ina Mueller has a song about that, what can happen when two female pilotes are up front.
I always et my best ideas when I am writing, would a cockpit with two women be a hen's pit?
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:01 pm

Quoting seahawk (Reply 157):

I would rather like to know where the loss is made. I flew quite few legs with AB within Europa last year and the load factors were always very good.

High loads don't equal profit.

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 158):
Alice Schwarzer, feminist and founder of "EMMA" Magazine suggsted that Airlines should have a women's pilot quota.

She is a tactless idiot to hijack this tragedy for her ridiculous ideas. Her brainless babble is not even worth listing to.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:55 am

Quoting AviationAware (Reply 159):
tactless idiot

It's O.K. not to like somebody and what they stand for, and to share that. To call that person, whom other people may like a lot, an "idiot" in a public forum is what's really tactless.

Quoting AviationAware (Reply 159):
Her brainless babble

If the age in your profile is correct you weren't even born yet, when Alice Schwarzer & Emma made a significant contribution to society. The one thing she's NOT is brainless, although she may "babble" at times  

We definitely need more female pilots in high heels and sexy uniforms 
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:41 am

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 160):
when Alice Schwarzer & Emma made a significant contribution to society.

Past != present.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:45 am

AB was in the News again this morning, the stock value is around €120 Million, 10% of what it was a year ago. They must have cash reserves, otherwise the LBA would Close them, OTH, who provides the cash reserves and how does that affect the ownership rules?
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:51 am

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 162):
10% of what it was a year ago

A drop of only 10% is actually good news considering they're projected to have made a loss of close to €400 Million last year.  
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:41 am

I meant the share values. Taken from an article in yesterday's newspaper, the share values dropped from 1,2 Billion to 120 Million. That along with the loss in the Region of 400 Million, which will be exactly known some time in April, they are fighting for survival.Even though the share value contributes only indirectly to the mess they are in.
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:11 am

Quoting seahawk (Reply 157):
I would rather like to know where the loss is made. I flew quite few legs with AB within Europa last year and the load factors were always very good.

And prices are not exactly cheap dumping, but rather in line with what others charge. How can you lose money filling an A321 with 150-250EUR fares, for instance? Indeed I wonder, where is the money being burnt?
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:42 pm

Part of the answer to that is that even now, AB's 15 or so A321s are only about 15% of the total fleet, and that's the highest number I can remember it at. My point is that AB's business is invariably more complex than sending a few A321s back and forth at €250 a seat, and they've taken bucketfuls of criticism over the years for not reducing that complexity, whether by sticking to a single business, standardising their fleet, merging their various companies and locations, etc. They've made some inroads in many of these areas, but clearly not enough.

[Edited 2015-03-31 06:49:34]
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:53 pm

But I hope their A320/A319 and 737 are not wasting that much money either. The company´s load factors look quite good to be honest. They have a modern fleet, many contracts with tour operators (and Condor or Germania are making money in the segment) and fuel prices are low.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:22 pm

Quoting seahawk (Reply 167):
load factors look quite good to be honest

that does´t say anything about making any profit.
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:57 am

Jet Airways will be codesharing on Airberlin's AUH flights to DUS & TXL.
http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/...hare-service-from-late-april-2015/
Every little helps   

and fresh off the South Florida rumor mill
South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 3 (by American 767 Mar 14 2015 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting kaminari (Reply 71):
Some news on Condor which may be nice for you MIA fanboys.. It seems they will being going to MIA instead of FLL
Quoting Miami (Reply 76):
I really can't share or disclose my source at this time
  
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:11 pm

While roaming in google maps i stumbled over this at CGN:

http://www.google.com/maps/place/50...22E/@50.8691015,7.120073,17z?hl=de

Anybody know what's the idea behind this?

Thx,
b.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:03 am

Quoting Bambel (Reply 170):
Anybody know what's the idea behind this?

Can you specify your question please? From your phrasing the answer would be "this is a part of CGN Airport".
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:42 am

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 171):

Can you specify your question please? From your phrasing the answer would be "this is a part of CGN Airport".

Sure, sorry (i thought that the pin i placed in gm was enough).

There are about 15 planes parked very chaotic. At least it seems chaotic to me. Is it a very clever high density storage? Are those still in service?

Thx,
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:21 am

Quoting Bambel (Reply 172):
There are about 15 planes parked very chaotic. At least it seems chaotic to me. Is it a very clever high density storage? Are those still in service?

One of them is LHCL's "Little Europe" (D-ACJH) which became VQ-BGT with UTair in late 2010:

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Photo © Patrick Schwarzschulz

So it's safe to say that the aerial picture is about four and a half years old and that at least one of the aircraft pictured was in temporary storage.
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:58 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 173):
temporary storage.

Well, there is still 6 or 7 sitting there, next to RW32, I saw them again/still when landing last week. A bunch - I think they are ´700´s are in Lybian colours, one 200 in Basic LH colours is missing engines etc.
Seems to just be another medium/long term storage place, some of the larger 700´s have been there for at least a couple of years after comming of lease.
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:13 pm

LH will be doing a one time FRA-YOW flight 31 May, with stop-over at Montreal for the return.
http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/...rt-ottawa-flight-in-late-may-2015/
What's going on in Ottawa?   
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:28 pm

Aegean has started new flights to MUC & STR in the last few days.   
http://www.anna.aero/2015/04/08/aege...ines-adds-two-new-european-routes/
The delish pic of the cake cutting at MUC makes me wanna book a trip on A3
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:13 pm

Air Berlin PLC shares up over 5% today. March load factor of 86,4 % - 2,4% higher than in 2014.
http://www.handelsblatt.com/unterneh...g-besser-ausgelastet/11612964.html
  
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:08 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 175):

A special assessment of demand perhaps?  Would be nice to be booked on this rather unique flight.
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:38 pm

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 178):
A special assessment of demand perhaps?

Only a matter of time until it's a daily, year round A380   
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:59 am

"Kommet se gut ins nescht"

AB FA entertains passengers to STR in Swabian dialect


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTkjNifZhwQ
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:29 am

Quoting seahawk (Reply 157):
I would rather like to know where the loss is made. I flew quite few legs with AB within Europa last year and the load factors were always very good.

Loadfactor is one thing, yield another.

IIRC an article in the "Handelsblatt" last year said the biggest problem is financial ecpenses and low yields. If your credibility is low you pay a premium in security for every Euro borrowed. LH was around 5-6% interest and AB up to 10%, thats a million for every pp if you borrow 100mil. They borrowed 400mil, do the math just for this loan. Also leasing rates are in US$, their main income is in Euro. Also they have very high leasing rates, like the ten wetleases B737 from TUI at horrendous cost. A Hunold heritage they just cant get rid of (IIRC ends 2016) The yield on each feed psgr to other operators longrange is also very low compared to traffic that stays completly inhouse. Well, a million her and a million there.
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:35 am

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 180):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTkjNifZhwQ

Very simpatico   

I'm linking a very 'simpatico' Airberlin trip report by Skippy777 from January, that so mirrors my very own experience.
Air Berlin Business Class DUS-JFK-DUS (by Skippy777 Jan 12 2015 in Trip Reports)
  
 
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RE: German Aviation Thread - Part 3

Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:10 pm

FRA T3 construction to begin this year!
http://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Frapor...es-Terminal-3-article14905301.html
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