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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:28 am

No 1 - I'm not sure whether existed back but what I'm sure of is that they didn't flew anything larger than small propeller aircraft. SR was THE airline for Switzerland and I'm starting to think they didn't sent a flight attendant, which would have been dressed in a light blue and hat less uniform in 1968.

http://www.sr692.com/design/uniforms/uni4/Scannen0065.jpg

Number 10 (hello Mrs Thatcher   ) is not TW since 21 is the way they looked back then.
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:07 pm

Quoting Brenintw (Reply 49):
I've annotated the rollout photo with numbers and the current results

Very cool, thanks 'Brenintw', welcome to the a.net fashionista club   

A couple of babes we're pretty sure now:

3) Lufthansa
11) Continental
16) PANAM
17) Braniff
20) National
21) TWA
26) Alitalia

#13 is most likely not PANAM, the beige uniform was introduced later and 'aloha73g' posted a great link confirming it

guys, we're getting close to the illusive #27   
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:55 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 50):
No 1 - I'm not sure whether existed back but what I'm sure of

Please read: "I'm not sure whether LX existed back then..."

Should really have waited to have my first coffee before posting...   
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:49 pm

If this page is accurate: http://www.uniformfreak.com/1northwest.html ,

then #22 in green is definitely a Northwest gal.
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:24 pm

Quoting factsonly (Reply 21):
17. CONTINENTAL - powder pink ?

I am thinking that #17 is Braniff. http://uniformfreak.com/1braniff.html
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:47 pm

Quoting citationjet (Reply 54):
22 in green is definitely a Northwest gal

  
You are the a.net fashionista of the day, 'RetiredWeasel'   

Quoting citationjet (Reply 54):
I am thinking that #17 is Braniff

Thanks 'citationjet'. Please check out Reply 48 by our very revered fashionista SpaceshipDC10 and see if you concur?

So now we have:

1. ?
2. JAL
3. Lufthansa
4. Air India
5. One of the many dark blue ones
6. Iberia
7. ?
8. SAS
9. South African Airways ?
10. DELTA
11. Continental
12. UNITED
13. Pan Am ? debut of their 1969 style?
14. QANTAS
15. BOAC
16. Pan Am ?
17. Braniff
18. Eastern
19. ?
20. National
21. TWA
22. Northwest
23. American
24. Air France
25. Aer Lingus
26. Alitalia

Anybody else wanna help us looking for the missing babe # 27?   

http://airchive.com/blog/wp-content/...2013/07/Boeing-747-Rollout1969.jpg
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:13 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 55):
by our very revered fashionista SpaceshipDC10

Wut?

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 55):
revered

Didn't knew that.
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:20 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 55):
You are the a.net fashionista of the day, 'RetiredWeasel'   

And at the risk of causing some doubt as to the other IDs, the NW gal is positioned exactly 5 places to the left (facing the lineup) which is the same position as the "proud Red Tail" logo appears on the bottom row on the fuselage.
Coincidence? Or smart maneuvering by a senior 'stewardess'?
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:17 am

Quoting RetiredWeasel (Reply 57):
Coincidence? Or smart maneuvering by a senior 'stewardess'?

I'd say coincidence most likely. I'd originally thought that maybe the order followed the order of the logos as well, but the AI lady and logo don't correspond (or do they? That tail-like logo could be the AI tail from the early 747 era?)

http://www.aviationexplorer.com/Comm..._Pictures/Air_India_Boeing_747.jpg

However, a lot of the remaining uniforms aren't matching up with their logos ...
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:54 pm

Good to see the Flying Springbok on a plane again although I'm not much use with identifying the uniform. I first flew on an SAA 747 in November 1972 and the uniforms were a nondescript blue for a long time, I will have to do some research or ask my wife to go into the archives at work!
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:24 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 51):
A couple of babes we're pretty sure now:

3) Lufthansa

Maybe I am a bit stubborn but I still think #3 is KL   

Photo's from the books "de wolkenloze weg" page 58, and "Pictorial history of KLM Royal Dutch Airlines" page 166
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:55 am

Quoting kl5147 (Reply 60):
Maybe I am a bit stubborn

Well, you certainly are   and that's why you're our fashionista of the day   . Because of your tenacity we are a little bit closer in our quest for babe #27.   

From 1965-1970 Lufthansa clothed their lovelies in lite blue. The blonde with the bun can actually be seen in quite a few photos from that time.

1. ?
2. JAL
3. KLM
4. Air India
5. ?
6. Iberia
7. Lufthansa
8. SAS
9. South African Airways
10. DELTA
11. Continental
12. UNITED
13. ?
14. QANTAS
15. BOAC
16. Pan Am
17. Braniff
18. Eastern
19. ?
20. National
21. TWA
22. Northwest
23. American
24. Air France
25. Aer Lingus
26. Alitalia

You can hide, but you can't run babe #27  http://airchive.com/blog/wp-content/...2013/07/Boeing-747-Rollout1969.jpg
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:50 am

#27 - Iran Air? Could it be?
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:04 am

Could someone indicate which logos belong to which airline? Some I can recognise, but many I can't.
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:11 am

For those with time and interest in uniforms, this is THE site to look into.
Uniform Freak : Cliff Muskiet
# 13 seems to be PanAm in the new 1969 uniform
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:26 am

Quoting Brenintw (Reply 63):
Could someone indicate which logos belong to which airline? Some I can recognise, but many I can't.

Left to right, top then bottom lines:

Delta - Eastern - Air India - National - World Airways - United - American - Air France - BOAC - Lufthansa

Sabena - Iberia - South African - Air Canada - El Al - Braniff - Scandinavian - Swissair - Qantas - KLM - Aer Lingus - Alitalia - Northwest Orient - Continental - TWA - Japan Air Lines - Pan Am
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:28 am

Quoting Brenintw (Reply 63):
Could someone indicate which logos belong to which airline? Some I can recognise, but many I can't

Top row:
Delta
Eastern
Air India
National
World
United
American
Air France
BOAC
Lufthansa

Bottom row:
Sabena
Iberia
South African
Air Canada
El Al
Braniff
SAS
Swissair
Qantas
KLM
Aer Lingus
Alitalia
Northwest
Continental
TWA
JAL
Pan Am

LOL! SpaceshipDC10 beat me by 1 and a half minutes!

[Edited 2014-10-30 02:31:17]
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:50 am

Quoting Boeing778X (Reply 11):
Indeed, jfk777 was probably confusing the 777 with the A380.

I find it strange that in the same thread we have posters that firmly believe the success of the 77W is unrelated to Emerates despite them operating around 20% of the global fleet, and yet despite them only operating 35% of the global A380 fleet it is completely dependant on them.

I happen to agree in that I think the 77W would have been successful without EK, as without them providing the capacity for air travel then other operators would have had to increase their capacity in order to satisfy demand. However, I think the A380 would have been just as successful for the very same reason.

Whilst I'm making distasteful but ever popular comparisons of Boeing and Airbus, I have found something curious in looking over old photos of the 747; and that's it really is not a good looking aircraft. Don't get me wrong, I love it and always have, but I suspect this is because I have grown up in awe of it, not because it a particularly good looking aircraft.

This leaves me wondering about the fate of the A380; I wonder if over time its size and ability's will make its shape lovable too.
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:52 pm

W O W, lots of great new input and aspiring fashionistas since last night   

Quoting Pihero (Reply 64):
# 13 seems to be PanAm in the new 1969 uniform

  
and because some swear #16 looks very much like PanAm's 1968 garbs, lets assume for now the launch customer sent 2 ladies to the 747 rollout celebration.   
of course that also means we are now looking for 2 airlines that didn't show   

1. ?
2. JAL
3. KLM
4. Air India
5. ?
6. Iberia
7. Lufthansa
8. SAS
9. South African Airways
10. DELTA
11. Continental
12. UNITED
13. PanAm
14. QANTAS
15. BOAC
16. PanAm
17. Braniff
18. Eastern
19. ?
20. National
21. TWA
22. Northwest
23. American
24. Air France
25. Aer Lingus
26. Alitalia

http://airchive.com/blog/wp-content/...2013/07/Boeing-747-Rollout1969.jpg
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:23 pm

Ueberflieger here is the updated list.

- ALITALIA is confirmed as no. 5
- SABENA is confirmed as no. 7
- Air Canada is confirmed as no. 26

- The two question marks are the two uncertain uniforms

1. Swissair
2. JAL
3. KLM
4. Air India
5. ALITALIA
6. IBERIA
7. SABENA
8. SAS
9. South African Airways
10. DELTA
11. Continental
12. UNITED
13. PANAM
14. QANTAS
15. BOAC
16. Lufthansa ?
17. Braniff
18. EASTERN
19. World Airways ?
20. National
21. TWA
22. Northwest
23. American
24. Air France
25. Aer Lingus (this is green)
26. Air CANADA
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:01 pm

Quoting factsonly (Reply 69):
1. Swissair

I doubt this is Swissair since during the '60s they had the uniform as seen below; which is nowhere to be seen on the picture. Since there are only 26 ladies while there are 27 airlines logos on the aircraft, it might very well be that the SR flight attendant wasn't there.

http://www.sr692.com/design/uniforms/uni4/Scannen0065.jpg

[Edited 2014-10-30 10:04:55]
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:07 pm

Quoting factsonly (Reply 69):
16. Lufthansa ?

To me #25 looks very Lufthansish.

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 68):
and because some swear #16 looks very much like PanAm's 1968 garbs, lets assume for now the launch customer sent 2 ladies to the 747 rollout celebration.

I tend to agree with überFlieger : # 16 is definitely the PanAm pre 1969 uniform. It's quite unique with the disposition of the jacket buttons : 3 under the collar, a wide empty space and 3 at the waist. No other uniform has that kind of feature.
So we have two PanAm stewardesses in the picture : # 13 and # 16.

Comparing the list of airlines and the stewardesses on the pic, by elimination, one finds that El Al and Swissair seem to be missing and World is not easy to find ( #19 is my hunch )
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:41 pm

UTA was an early customer that appears to be missing from the logos
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:23 pm

Quoting kanban (Reply 72):
UTA was an early customer that appears to be missing from the logos

UTA's first order wasn't until 1978 according to the Boeing website -- a -200F.
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:27 pm

Quoting kanban (Reply 72):
UTA was an early customer that appears to be missing from the logos

UTA didn't receive its first 747, a freighter, until 1979. The fist passenger 747 arrived in 1981 and was later converted to SUD.

http://www.planespotters.net/Product...nufacturer=Boeing&type=747&sort=dd

[Edited 2014-10-31 13:31:07]
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:11 am

I have to agree with the last poster in the original thread on this subject:

Can You Name The Airline From The FA Uniform Alone (by SATX Oct 28 2006 in Aviation Polls)

Why airlines allow their female FAs to wear trouser-uniforms is beyond me. They are hideous, full stop. And completely unglamorous to boot. They really kill the sexy, seductive image airlines like to employ in their advertising.
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:30 pm

Great work SpaceshipDC10! Swissair definitely seems to be 1 of the 2 no-shows at the 747 rollout celebration.

We are so close, guys! Only 3 babes, I mean stewardesses   left to identify to find the missing party pooper.
El Al? Sabena? South African? World?


1. ?
2. JAL
3. KLM
4. Air India
5. ?
6. Iberia
7. Lufthansa
8. SAS
9. Air Canada
10. ?
11. Continental
12. UNITED
13. PanAm
14. QANTAS
15. BOAC
16. PanAm
17. Braniff
18. Eastern
19. Delta
20. National
21. TWA
22. Northwest
23. American
24. Air France
25. Aer Lingus
26. Alitalia

http://airchive.com/blog/wp-content/...2013/07/Boeing-747-Rollout1969.jpg

[Edited 2014-11-01 09:31:49]
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:43 pm

When did Iran Air order their first 747? That 1st attendant could be Iran Air.

[Edited 2014-11-01 09:44:05]
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:02 pm

For those who continually ask/think about when Boeing airplanes are ordered/delivered here is a handy link to bookmark -- go the the user defined reports.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 77):
When did Iran Air order their first 747? That 1st attendant could be Iran Air.

Iran Air ordered a -100B in June of '78 and took delivery a year later in August of '79 so was not part of the initial rollout.
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:11 pm

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 78):
Iran Air ordered a -100B in June of '78 and took delivery a year later in August of '79

However, before that aircraft they took delivery of four SP and on -200BM 1976, 1977 and 1979. Though I'm not sure whether they took part to the initial rollout.
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:33 pm

Right now my    is riding on Swissair for 1st uniform. Who else can it be?

[Edited 2014-11-01 10:36:36]
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:00 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 79):
However, before that aircraft they took delivery of four SP and on -200BM 1976, 1977 and 1979. Though I'm not sure whether they took part to the initial rollout.

You're right, I wasn't paying attention to my dates. But, in any case, since they had not ordered any 747's prior to the initial rollout they were not included. Every logo on the airplane had signed on the dotted line already.
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:28 pm

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 78):
For those who continually ask/think about when Boeing airplanes are ordered/delivered here is a handy link to bookmark -- go the the user defined reports.

That is a great resource, although ... some entries did leave me scratching my head.

The DC-8-63s with GE engines, may have been what was fitted when retired, not ordered. But ... the DC-8-40 with PW engines ...???
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:38 am

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 76):
We are so close, guys! Only 3 babes, I mean stewardesses left to identify to find the missing party pooper.
El Al? Sabena? South African? World?

I am by no means an expert, but it's always seemed to me that World predominantly did charter ops and freight work and weren't big on publicity like the scheduled carriers were/are. If that assertion's correct, it would make sense to me that World wouldn't send a flight attendant to the ceremony...

FWIW, here are World Airways' uniforms mentioned on the Uniform Freak website... http://www.uniformfreak.com/1worldairways.html
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:03 pm

Quoting warden145 (Reply 83):
I am by no means an expert, but it's always seemed to me that World predominantly did charter ops and freight work and weren't big on publicity like the scheduled carriers were/are. If that assertion's correct, it would make sense to me that World wouldn't send a flight attendant to the ceremony...

Back then World was still lead by Ed Daly, so despite the airline was indeed doing mostly, if not only, charters and cargo flights, they could have sent a flight attendant to the ceremony. There's another good reason for doing so. World Airways was the first of then "supplemental" (charter) airlines to order and receive the new aircraft. They were the first or amongst the first to order the -200C (for Convertible - either passenger or cargo through the nose door).

Quoting warden145 (Reply 83):
FWIW, here are World Airways' uniforms mentioned on the Uniform Freak website... http://www.uniformfreak.com/1worldairways.html

These uniforms were used since they introduced their then new corporate identity in the early '90s. The dark blue scarf pattern clearly shows these titles and logo.
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:20 pm

Sabena? South African? World?  

There's only 2 more uniforms we need to identify to know which airlines besides Swissair didn't attend the 747 rollout celebration.


1. ?
2. JAL
3. KLM
4. Air India
5. Alitalia
6. Iberia
7. Lufthansa
8. SAS
9. Air Canada
10. ?
11. Continental
12. UNITED
13. PanAm
14. QANTAS
15. BOAC
16. PanAm
17. Braniff
18. Eastern
19. Delta
20. National
21. TWA
22. Northwest
23. American
24. Air France
25. Aer Lingus
26. EL AL

#26 is EL AL. I dug up quite a funny advertisement featuring this sexy babe   

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73...bcd4660f00352e27fe6019b6a7c2c5.jpg
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:15 am

No. 10 is confirmed as South African Airways

Could No. 1 be a BOEING Commercial Airplanes girl?

She is definitely not SABENA, but could be World Airways.


1. ?
2. JAL
3. KLM
4. Air India
5. Alitalia
6. Iberia
7. Lufthansa
8. SAS
9. Air Canada
10. SOUTH AFRICAN Airways
11. Continental
12. UNITED
13. PanAm
14. QANTAS
15. BOAC
16. PanAm
17. Braniff
18. Eastern
19. Delta
20. National
21. TWA
22. Northwest
23. American
24. Air France
25. Aer Lingus
26. EL AL
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:12 pm

Quoting factsonly (Reply 86):
Could No. 1 be a BOEING Commercial Airplanes girl?

I think you may be right... I keep digging for website images of World Airways flight attendant uniforms for late 1960s ...nothing.
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:06 pm

Quoting factsonly (Reply 86):
Could No.1 be a BOEING Commercial Airplanes girl?

I think you're on to something factsonly  

In 1966 Swissair introduced a new uniform, which probably was still around 2 years later. It does look very much like #1 with gold buttons and even the style of the hat, only it wasn't white.
I will link a beautiful TV news piece with lots of lovely ladies and you're going to melt   
http://www.notrehistoire.ch/group/couvre-chefs-et-pas-chefs/video/386/

Guys, we're so close   
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:54 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 88):

Interesting. The third flight attendant says that she prefers the summer dress which was created for the tropics and will be more convenient than a uniform.

So perhaps the light blue dress that I've already mentioned twice is part of the summer "uniform" as it was apparently also introduced during the '60s, according to the source.

Edit:

Another link:

http://www.designweek.co.uk/we-like/swissair-souvenirs/3036125.article

[Edited 2014-11-03 08:56:45]
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:58 pm

Another find.......

The B747 roll-out pictures were probably taken on 28 September 1968, so we are looking at 1968 airline uniforms (and not 1969).

This can be deducted from this:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Boeing_747_rollout_(10).jpg
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:23 am

Quoting warden145 (Reply 83):
Quoting uberflieger (Reply 76):
We are so close, guys! Only 3 babes, I mean stewardesses left to identify to find the missing party pooper.
El Al? Sabena? South African? World?

I am by no means an expert, but it's always seemed to me that World predominantly did charter ops and freight work and weren't big on publicity like the scheduled carriers were/are. If that assertion's correct, it would make sense to me that World wouldn't send a flight attendant to the ceremony...

Boeing shows the only World Airways 747 order (for 3 747-200C convertible cargo/passenger aircraft) dated March 27, 1972. Or did they have an earlier order that was cancelled? Curious why World's logo appears on the aircraft if they didn't order it until 3 or 4 years later?
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:14 am

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 88):
I will link a beautiful TV news piece with lots of lovely ladies and you're going to melt

Isn't it wonderful to see properly-groomed stewardesses again? Note how they hold their gloved hands elegantly in the air while their handbags hang from the crook of their arm. Modern female FAs could take a lesson here . . .   

Well done uberflieger: I have no doubt posterity will thank you when this question comes up in 10, 20, 50 years' time . . .
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:48 am

It was a lazy Sunday afternoon I came across 'The Sexy Dream of The 747' and thought I would share it with my a.net buddies, or at least the ones into aviation history.

Well, I never imagined this thread would become my obsession for 2 weeks, trying to find a match for the beautiful stewardesses in the photo commemorating the rollout of the 1st 747.

For those of you who only read the last few posts of a thread   we discovered that not all airlines invited showed. As a matter of fact we're pretty sure Sabena & Swissair did not attend, but we're more than happy to be proven wrong!

[quote=Braybuddy,reply=92]Well done uberfliegerquote]
It comes natural - I just love sexy girls, guys and machines   
 
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RE: The Sexy Dream Of The 747

Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:04 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 93):
guys and machines

talking about that .......
One of the promo-pics for the Boeing 747 showed a kid looking up to huge nose of an (obvious TWA) 747.

I remember that for an anniversary occasion of the 747 (10, 20, 25 or 30 years??) they photographed that boy (now a man) again on the other side of a B747 and then matched the old an new photos together. I did a search on the internet but could not find that pic. Was just curious to see that again.
Btw I am not intending to hi-jack this thread or cause a new obsession.  
However if you do feel so, just ask the moderaters to remove my post.

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