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LipeGIG
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Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:18 pm

Gol (G3), will change the stop (required as they use a 737-800 SFP for their routes to the United States, beyond the range for this aircraft type) for their flights GIG/VCP-MIA and GRU-MCO.

Nowadays they are stopping in Santo Domingo (SDQ) but effective March 1st 2015 (subject to approval from the Brazilian Authorities) they will stop on Punta Cana (PUJ) in accordance with recent filing with Brazilian ANAC (Civil Aviation Agency)

DL offer these routes as code-share
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:10 pm

Is it because of more loads to PUJ?
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:21 pm

Quoting lesfalls (Reply 1):


Is it because of more loads to PUJ?

Or less competition from SDQ.
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:02 am

PUJ nowadays is more interesting for Brazilians than SDQ
Gol probably believes they can complement the demand with MIA-PUJ where for sure the competition is not that strong.

Gol will offer early morning flights to MIA and MCO.
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:14 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 3):
PUJ nowadays is more interesting for Brazilians than SDQ
Gol probably believes they can complement the demand with MIA-PUJ where for sure the competition is not that strong.

Gol will offer early morning flights to MIA and MCO.

Gol will be the fifth airline on MIAPUJ. That's strong competition. AA will now have a monopoly on MIASDQ.
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:24 am

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 4):
Gol will be the fifth airline on MIAPUJ. That's strong competition. AA will now have a monopoly on MIASDQ.

Who else flies to PUJ other than AA, 4M and LA?
 
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:25 am

Quoting Mugler (Reply 5):

I think AF(not exactly sure).
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:28 am

Quoting Mugler (Reply 5):
Who else flies to PUJ other than AA, 4M and LA?

Insel Air seasonally.
 
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:36 am

Why do they even bother in the first place? It's obviously not working, and I'd bet terminating it in PUJ would make more sense than trying to hold onto some low yield US traffic.
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:58 am

What is a 737-800 SFP (what does the SFP stand for)?
 
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:29 am

Quoting N62NA (Reply 9):

What is a 737-800 SFP (what does the SFP stand for)?


According to this thread, it stands for Short Field Performance

Boeing SFP (short Field Performance)
 
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:09 am

I don't even consider taking such flight to MIA or MCO. There are so many better options... I know there will always be a market for the price sensitive passangers, but the prices are not that much lower from there airlines if booked in advance.
How are yelds on these routes? Is GOL making money on these routes?
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:32 pm

How is GOL doing flying their 737-800 from RIO and Sao Paulo to Miami and Orlando ? That is a long way to go even if the price is cheap. With all the Tam and AA flights does the market really need the 737 ?
 
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:55 pm

I don't get why Gol does this. The 738s can fly non-stop to Miami and Orlando from Belem and Manaus; that's how Gol should be serving Florida.
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:04 pm

One might think Delta Vacations could sell many packages with airfare MCO-PUJ-MCO.
 
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:32 pm

Quoting MIflyer12 (Reply 14):
One might think Delta Vacations could sell many packages with airfare MCO-PUJ-MCO.

Probably not as much as you think. Selling Caribbean packages to people living in Florida can be a tough sell, at least compared to places in the Northeast. Gol will be the only airline flying to PUJ from MCO, and even with SDQ they were only competing with B6.
 
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:49 pm

Has GOL ever published a profitability rank of their internacional routes? It would be interesting to know the ones making more money, or either loosing less money.
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:57 pm

Quoting brunomelo (Reply 11):
Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 13):

IMHO, it's the typical brazilian thing: "They're doing it!!!! So will I".... the route makes no sense, actually GRU-PUJ or GIG-PUJ makes more sense than tag on to the USA.

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 13):
I don't get why Gol does this. The 738s can fly non-stop to Miami and Orlando from Belem and Manaus; that's how Gol should be serving Florida.

TUSSEN TACK! I completely agree with you, JJ in alone on the BEL MIA route, here in MAO we have AA JJ and CM already! can't wait to see B6 or Spirit venturing here!  that would be a dream!
 
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RE: Gol To Change The Stop For MIA/MCO Routes To PUJ

Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:06 pm

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 17):
the route makes no sense, actually GRU-PUJ or GIG-PUJ makes more sense than tag on to the USA.

   I think in a short amount of time, if not already, it'll be more worthwhile to sell the entire plane to Brazilians headed to PUJ than saving any seats for one stop garbage to the US.
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