EK Receives 100th 77W

KarelXWB · Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:18 am

Emirates just took delivery of its 100th 777-300ER aircraft.

Quote:
Boeing and Emirates Airline are celebrating the delivery of the airline's 100th 777-300ER (Extended Range), marking another milestone in a partnership that began over two decades ago when the Dubai-based airline ordered its first 777.

Press release
http://www.emirates.com/ae/english/a...tail.aspx?article=1942745&offset=0
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2014-10-...-Delivers-Emirates-100th-777-300ER

EK operates like 1/5 of all 77W in service and have another 50 on firm order.

[Edited 2014-10-29 02:33:59]

macc · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:01 am

19,578 cabin crew???

just for their 777 fleet?

zeke · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:21 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):

Amazing achievement, well done to Boeing and EK.

Miami · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:30 am

Congrats to EK and Boeing. Huge milestone!

scbriml · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:43 am

Congrats indeed.

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EK7777 A6-ENV currently over southern Iran and scheduled to land at DXB in about 30 minutes.

boefan · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:46 am

B777 A6-ENV delivered today and A345 A6-ERG is flying to LFBT for storage (2nd A345 to leave the fleet)

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=2

http://www.flightradar24.com/UAE3073/4afca43

oly720man · Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:19 am

Just about to land now

http://www.flightradar24.com/UAE7777/4aee230

steve6666 · Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:29 am

Quoting boefan (Reply 5):
B777 A6-ENV delivered today and A345 A6-ERG is flying to LFBT for storage (2nd A345 to leave the fleet)

Isn't A6-ERG the Melbourne take-off incident one?

MEA-707 · Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:29 am

Also they withdrew their first old 777-200 non ER last month... So the fleet growth will be dampened a bit with withdrawls. Interesting to see if they can manage to sell any of their old fleet.

KarelXWB · Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:34 am

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 8):
Also they withdrew their first old 777-200 non ER last month

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 8):
Interesting to see if they can manage to sell any of their old fleet.

A6-EMD was bought in February 2010 by Veling and was leased back. Most EK frames are on lease, they don't have to worry about after market.

wingflex744 · Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:47 am

Quoting steve6666 (Reply 7):
Isn't A6-ERG the Melbourne take-off incident one?

Yes indeed.
http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...reports/2009/aair/ao-2009-012.aspx

boeing767-300 · Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:14 pm

Congratulations to both Emirates and Boeing. I wish it had a special paint job like A6-EGO the 1000th 777.
100 Large jets of 1 model is unprecedented though EK will crack 100+ again with the 777-9X. Of course it will also happen with the A380 at EK.
The 77W is an incredible machine that crushed the competing A346 into early extinction like never seen before Especially for aircraft only two years apart.
Emirates order book for 50 plus more 77W and 150 777X is absolute vindication of Boeing pushing the boundaries of both twin jet size and engine thrust limitations of the time.an excellent airframe but also incredible engines provided by GE for the long range 777s. I think Boeing would have been in a little strife without the 777.

Oh Qantas........ Why didn't you!!!!!!!

BiggerJetsPlz · Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:32 pm

It's all fun and games now, but I'm gonna be shedding tears when EK scraps a hundred twelve year old 77Ws.

DXBDFWHGA · Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:18 pm

Congrats to Boeing and EK. EK continues to kick a#@ and take names.

kiwiandrew · Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:32 pm

Regardless of what one thinks of Emirates ( having flown them a couple of times, my thought was "Meh, way overrated" just in case anyone accuses me of being an EK fanboy) this is an amazing achievement. I'm reasonably confident that no other airline has ever operated at one time 100 widebodies of the same model. Well done Boeing and EK.

kaitak744 · Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:48 pm

As of now, the remaining will deliver as follows:

4 in 2014
8 in 2015
12 in 2016
2 in 2017
4 in 2018
11 in 2019
11 in 2020

the 2019 and 2020 deliveries will, I am guessing, replace some of the early 777-300ERs coming off of the ILFC and GECAS leases.

boefan · Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:59 pm

Quoting kaitak744 (Reply 15):

As of now, the remaining will deliver as follows:

4 in 2014

Actually Emirates will take 2 more B777-300ER aircraft and one Freighter

B77F L/N 1248 A6-EFO scheduled delivery November 2014
B77W L/N 1249 A6-ENW scheduled delivery November 2014
B77W L/N 1261 A6-ENX scheduled delivery December 2014

and next one won't be delivered until February 2015

MD80Nut · Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:00 pm

Incredible. One hundred huge 777-300ERs. With 50 more on order. Me thinks they "like" this plane. What a machine!

Congrats to Boeing and Emirates.

Cheers, Ralph

airportugal310 · Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:03 am

Flying on one in about 3 weeks on the BOS-DXB route. Looking forward to sampling EK for the first time

maxsit09 · Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:14 am

A friend of mine who was a 777 captain with QR, just told me they have over 800 pilots just on this equipment.

I was genuinely surprised, but can only imagine with how many aircraft's they have on order!

Thanks,

Malayil · Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:36 am

This is actually the first time in 10 years, where there is no new routes on the horizon. Surprising really given the milestone they have just passed.

777Jet · Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:39 am

Congrats to both EK and to the awesome Boeing 777-300ER

Viscount724 · Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:57 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):
Emirates just took delivery of its 100th 777-300ER aircraft.

Why does Boeing only show 68 77W deliveries to EK (through September 30)? Assume the others were acquired from leasing companies and not directly from Boeing.

lightsaber · Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:42 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):
EK operates like 1/5 of all 77W in service and have another 50 on firm order.

Which only proves the A380 has no business case... oh wait. EK is just the #1 buyer of large widebodies...

Quoting boefan (Reply 5):
B777 A6-ENV delivered today and A345 A6-ERG is flying to LFBT for storage (2nd A345 to leave the fleet)

Very interesting. How many A345s fly daily for EK? I was under the impression that EK wasn't flying the A345s as intensely due to fuel burn. But I would be happy to be corrected...

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 8):
Also they withdrew their first old 777-200 non ER last month... So the fleet growth will be dampened a bit with withdrawls. Interesting to see if they can manage to sell any of their old fleet.

That is interesting. Even 777s reach the end of economic life. In particular as new 777s enter the fleet...

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 9):
A6-EMD was bought in February 2010 by Veling and was leased back. Most EK frames are on lease, they don't have to worry about after market.

Mostly true. On many leases EK assumes the aftermarket resale risk to reduce the up front costs. They rotate airframes through different leases based on the best deal. But EK depreciates aircraft fast enough so that even when they take the resale risk, they are ok to dispose of the airframe for at or near its scrap value.

Quoting BiggerJetsPlz (Reply 12):
It's all fun and games now, but I'm gonna be shedding tears when EK scraps a hundred twelve year old 77Ws.

Or we'll just talk about how much better the 779s economics are.

Quoting kaitak744 (Reply 15):
the 2019 and 2020 deliveries will, I am guessing, replace some of the early 777-300ERs coming off of the ILFC and GECAS leases.

Isn't EK returning to leasors 77Ws in 2015? Or have they extended those leases?

Quoting Malayil (Reply 20):
This is actually the first time in 10 years, where there is no new routes on the horizon. Surprising really given the milestone they have just passed.

I haven't been following EK as closely recently. Do they really have no new routes on the horizon? I searched to find new route announcements not yet initiated, but instead just found a bunch of evidence that EK is trying to build to 4 flights per day (one per hub bank) to a large number of destinations. I see more routes being launched by FlyDubai with EK following later (usually with a short time from announcement to launch) and more frequencies. Is EK really just up-gauging and increasing frequency right now? But they seem to still have some route growth:

They just launched Budapest:
http://www.traveldailynews.com/news/...elebrates-emirates-rsquo-inaugural

Per a WSJ link "Emirates Expansion Opens Up New Trade Routes in Africa" EK will manage TAAG Angola which has to open connections for DXB...

Lightsaber

Viscount724 · Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:51 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 23):
Quoting boefan (Reply 5):
B777 A6-ENV delivered today and A345 A6-ERG is flying to LFBT for storage (2nd A345 to leave the fleet)

Very interesting. How many A345s fly daily for EK? I was under the impression that EK wasn't flying the A345s as intensely due to fuel burn. But I would be happy to be corrected...

8 of the 10 A345s are still in service this week. As already mentioned, one (A6-ERF) was retired more than a year ago, and another (A6-ERG) was flown DXB-LDE (Tarbes, France) for storage on October 29.

The other 8 seem to be used mainly on fairly short routes and not very intensively. Their routings for the past week (since October 23) from Flightradar24. Two haven't flown since October 25.

A6-ERA
Oct. 23 - DXB-ALG-DXB
Oct. 24 - DXB-EBB-DXB
Oct. 25 - DXB-CMN-DXB

A6-ERB
Oct. 23 - DXB-NBO-DXB
Oct. 24 - DXB-SEZ
Oct. 25 - SEZ-DXB-KHI-DXB
Oct. 26 - DXB-NBO-DXB
Oct. 27 - DXB-KWI-DXB
Oct. 28 - DXB-SEZ-DXB

A6-ERC
Oct. 23 - DXB-EBB-DXB
Oct. 24 - DXB-CMN-DXB
Oct. 25 - DXB-NBO-DXB-SEZ
Oct. 26 - SEZ-DXB
Oct. 27 - DXB-ATH-DXB-SEZ
Oct. 28 - SEZ-DXB-KWI-DXB
Oct. 29 - DXB-ALG-DXB-SEZ

A6-ERD
Oct. 24 - DXB-ALG-DXB
Oct. 25 - DXB-SEZ-DXB
Oct. 26 - DXB-SEZ-DXB
Oct. 27 - DXB-NBO-DXB
Oct. 28 - DXB-ALG-DXB
Oct. 29 - DXB-ATH-DXB

A6-ERE
Oct. 23 - DXB-SEZ
Oct. 24 - SEZ-DXB
Oct. 26 - DXB-ATH-DXB
Oct. 27 - DXB-SEZ-DXB
Oct. 28 - DXB-SEZ-DXB
Oct. 29 - DXB-KWI-DXB

A6-ERH
Oct. 23 - DXB-CMN-DXB
Oct. 24 - DXB-NBO-DXB
Oct. 25 - DXB-EBB-DXB

A6-ERI
Oct. 23 - DXB-DOH-DXB
Oct. 24 - DXB-SEZ-DXB
Oct. 25 - DXB-BEY-DXB
Oct. 26 - DXB-DOH-DXB
Oct. 28 - DXB-NBO-DXB
Oct. 29 - DXB-NBO-DXB

A6-ERJ
Oct. 23 - DXB-KHI-DXB-KHI-DXB-KHI
Oct. 24 - KHI-DXB-KHI-DXB
Oct. 25 - DXB-ALG-DXB
Oct. 26 - DXB-ALG-DXB-SEZ
Oct. 27 - SEZ-DXB-BEY-DXB
Oct. 28 - DXB-ATH-DXB-SEZ
Oct. 29 - SEZ-DXB

[Edited 2014-10-29 20:52:16]

lightsaber · Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:34 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 24):
Two haven't flown since October 25.

Thank you. It does seem as if the A345s are being used at low intensity.

Then again, it peaked at 10% of the 77W fleet size.
On one hand I'm in awe of the EK 777W fleet.
On the other, it feels like this milestone would have happened earlier.

I'm incredibly curious when EK will roll out their first 77Ws. IIRC 2015 is the first lease expiration, but I won't be surprised if all the early leases were to be extended.

Lightsaber

SKAirbus · Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:22 am

Congrats to EK and Boeing...

I just wish that EK didn't configure their 77Ws like cattle trucks... 3-4-3 is too tight! Hence, why I'd always go out of my way to fly an A380 when it comes to Emirates.

bobdino · Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:54 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 23):
I haven't been following EK as closely recently. Do they really have no new routes on the horizon? I searched to find new route announcements not yet initiated, but instead just found a bunch of evidence that EK is trying to build to 4 flights per day (one per hub bank) to a large number of destinations. I see more routes being launched by FlyDubai with EK following later (usually with a short time from announcement to launch) and more frequencies. Is EK really just up-gauging and increasing frequency right now? But they seem to still have some route growth:

CAPA is of the opinion that EK's services to the USA will grow 50-100% in the medium term:
http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...d-largest-source-of-revenue-191919

EPA001 · Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:17 pm

A huge milestone to reach for Boeing, GE, EK and all other involved parties. Congratulations are due for sure.

.

kaitak744 · Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:21 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 25):
I'm incredibly curious when EK will roll out their first 77Ws. IIRC 2015 is the first lease expiration, but I won't be surprised if all the early leases were to be extended.

Their first deliveries were in 2005, and the leases were for 12 years. So 2017 is the first expiry.

KarelXWB · Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:24 am

Unless they extend the lease a bit.

boefan · Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:11 pm

Emirates today will take delivery of another B777 a freighter this time A6-EFO

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAE778

Flightsimboy · Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:50 pm

Interesting registration for the 100th 777. A6-ENV.....ENVious indeed!!

.

Also nice to see the A345s being used to KHI. Such beautiful birds!

boeing767-300 · Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:51 pm

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 32):
Interesting registration for the 100th 777. A6-ENV.....ENVious indeed!! .

Haha almost as good as the 1000th 777 which was appropriately delivered to EK and happened to be A6-EGO. EGO and Envious... that would pretty much reflect the success of the 777 programme......

Flightsimboy · Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:06 pm

Quoting boeing767-300 (Reply 33):
Haha almost as good as the 1000th 777 which was appropriately delivered to EK and happened to be A6-EGO. EGO and Envious... that would pretty much reflect the success of the 777 programme......

I knew of the A6-EGO, but could not remember what it was associated with...Yes, the 1000th Boeing 777

. So there we have ENV and EGO!

lightsaber · Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:37 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 26):
Hence, why I'd always go out of my way to fly an A380 when it comes to Emirates.

This must distress EK.

Seriously, they bring in customers thanks to the 777's high density enabling competitive prices. Then they know the airline and there is a complex route map enabling quite a few connections.

Lightsaber

boeing767-300 · Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:10 pm

Seems the only criticism people can aim at the EK77W is the cattle class 3-4-3. Oh but Qatar do this as well and its never mentioned.
I flew EK 77W for the first time a few weeks ago in Business and the service and experience was the best I ever had. Better than EK A380. This was probably because 6A in 77W felt more personal than the more cluttered A380 layout.
The bar on A380 is great but the service and feel of the front two rows of Business more than made up for it.
I had a sit in economy and it didn't seem too bad.
Honestly A380 or 777 ...probably take the 777 and that suprised me...

AABB777 · Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:19 pm

Quoting boeing767-300 (Reply 36):
Seems the only criticism people can aim at the EK77W is the cattle class 3-4-3. Oh but Qatar do this as well and its never mentioned.
I flew EK 77W for the first time a few weeks ago in Business and the service and experience was the best I ever had. Better than EK A380. This was probably because 6A in 77W felt more personal than the more cluttered A380 layout.
The bar on A380 is great but the service and feel of the front two rows of Business more than made up for it.
I had a sit in economy and it didn't seem too bad.
Honestly A380 or 777 ...probably take the 777 and that suprised me...

QR has 3-3-3 Economy Class configuration on their 777s vs EK's 3-4-3. Also on the 777, EK has 2-3-2 in Business Class vs QR's 2-2-2. I give QR the edge here in regards to the better product offering on the 777.

boeing767-300 · Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:43 pm

Quoting AABB777 (Reply 37):
QR has 3-3-3 Economy Class configuration on their 777s vs EK's 3-4-3. Also on the 777, EK has 2-3-2 in Business Class vs QR's 2-2-2. I give QR the edge here in regards to the better product offering on the 777.

QR i didn't realise. I thought most had gone to 3=4=3 on 777. Having said that 3-4-3 is fine and 2-3-2 in Business makes no difference if your Aor B or J & K. The service I had was the best ever with amazing food and great staff and excellent J product. The crew were telling me they prefer 777 over A380 because it feels more personel.

PhoenixVIP · Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:38 pm

Quoting boeing767-300 (Reply 38):

EK A380s have at the least lie flats in business which makes for a better rest. I have travelled before in EKs 77W in both Business and Economy when I had no choice when heading to Europe on business, and I will gladly choose CA's A330 and 77W product over EK's povo 77W configuration any times due to the angled business seats and less width in Y and C. For frequent travellers on business the toll does take place on our body so the small things do count over time.

sierra3tango · Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:50 pm

Quoting boeing767-300 (Reply 36):
Seems the only criticism people can aim at the EK77W is the cattle class 3-4-3. Oh but Qatar do this as well and its never mentioned.

QR is 3-3-3 in Y

Quoting phoenixVIP (Reply 39):
CA's A330 and 77W product over EK's povo 77W configuration any times due to the angled business seats and less width in Y and C. For frequent travellers on business the toll does take place on our body so the small things do count over time.

Agreed

Having suffered EK's Y product on a 77W at least a hundred times - its 100 planes to avoid in Y. Maybe not so much in any other
other class, depends who's paying; but given a choice EK's 77W is worth avoiding. BA / QR / and a load of others are worth the money on a 77W

KarelXWB · Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:03 pm

Quoting sierra3tango (Reply 40):
Having suffered EK's Y product on a 77W at least a hundred times

Quoting sierra3tango (Reply 40):
EK's 77W is worth avoiding

Forgive me for asking but then why do you keep flying EK?

sierra3tango · Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:38 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 41):
Forgive me for asking but then why do you keep flying EK?

Because it WAS my 'home' airline when I was in UAE and I didn't control the business bookings.
Took an age to get the message through to our travel agents

But I & my colleagues rebelled (the job is all about offshore marine) & we got a 'recovery day' if
we have to suffer it in Y in an EK 77W which made EK 77W in Y uneconomic. EK don't offer Y+
and we are meant to be booked in Y+

Then the problem went away

Still get the occasional 77W on BAH / DXB runs, but its only an hour so I can live with it

Whether I've suffered it 80, 90, 100 or 110 times haven't got a clue

EKs seat back entertainment is second to none and the J class is good (if you wear sun glasses)

Viscount724 · Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:07 am

Quoting boeing767-300 (Reply 38):
The crew were telling me they prefer 777 over A380 because it feels more personel.

Y class on EK A380s is far better than on their 777s. No comparison. It's a good example of how inconsistent EK service can often be. Their 7-abreast (2-3-2) J class configuration on their A330-200s and remaining few A340-300s is also very uncompetitive. I can't think of any other full-service carriers that have ever operated the A330/340 with more than 6-abreast (2-2-2) in J.

VC10er · Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:04 am

It really blows my mind when I think about one airline with 100 777-W, they are so huge and SO expensive. Congrats to EK and to Boeing...with a special bow to all the men and women who've designed it and build them.

And...then 150 777-9X and how many A380's? Where do all these fliers come from!!!

na · Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:13 pm

In other news, Emirates has ferried the first 777 to the US to be scrapped.
http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=4

PW100 · Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:05 pm

I'm wondering, who/what will be the next airline/airframe combination to hit 100 widebodies? Would be absolutely amazing if that would be EK/380 . . .

RyanairGuru · Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:49 pm

Quoting boeing767-300 (Reply 38):
QR i didn't realise

Maybe your confused with Etihad? EY are 10 abrest.

CXB77L · Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:28 pm

Quoting boeing767-300 (Reply 33):
Haha almost as good as the 1000th 777 which was appropriately delivered to EK and happened to be A6-EGO. EGO and Envious... that would pretty much reflect the success of the 777 programme......

I wonder if it was planned that way

The 777 is indeed a successful programme. Congratulations to Boeing and EK for reaching this milestone. May there be many, many more to come.

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