|Quoting G500 (Reply 15):|
" Fox News just reported it was a Hawker. ??? "
It makes me extremely angry when news agencies don't check or wait for correct information. They HAVE to be the first to break the story. It makes my blood boil
|Quoting bblank (Reply 12):|
According to ATC recordings (LiveATC ICT Tower, 14:30-15:00UTZ), at 18:15 into the recording you hear the emergency declaration by N52SZ.
|Quoting Beefmoney (Reply 17):|
Well, I think a factor in this misidentification is that Beechcraft has been known as "Hawker Beechcraft" in the recent past due to their aquisition of Hawker a number of years ago. So, people may be identifying King Air's as being manufactured by Hawker without really understanding what that means in the aviation world.
|Quoting bond007 (Reply 27):|
AFAIK, the FlightSafety spokesman , did specifically call it a "Hawker Beechcraft King Air" aircraft.
|Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 32):|
Then why so many people on board if it was a positioning flight?
|Quoting Beefmoney (Reply 28):|
It would be bad, however, for anyone to shorten it to just "Hawker", however, because that would basically lump it in with the other "real Hawkers" like the 800xp that we think of when someone says "A Hawker just crashed".
|Quoting bond007 (Reply 38):|
Maybe 'bad' but I guess just as 'technically accurate'. After all, historically, the "Hawker" of "Hawker Beechcraft" originated from the Hawker Aircraft Company ....the Hawker Siddeley 125 and Hawker 800 etc. were late additions in between the two
|Quoting CyberEntomology (Reply 34):|
Losing an engine on a King Air on t/o is about the worst time for that to happen. This happened just a few seconds after rotation. Until you've feathered the props, you've got your thrust suddenly turned into drag, meanwhile, the thrust on the other side is still going full bore. You have fractions of a second to react, and on rotation, you have pretty much NO margin.
|Quoting CyberEntomology (Reply 42):|
Someone said the pilot had time to declare an emergency over the radio. I still don't think engine out scenarios are properly taught to pilots.
|Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 32):|
Losing 1 out of 2 engines on takeoff shouldn't lead to a crash so often, but it almost always seems to. RIP to those who lost their life.
|Quoting Flaps (Reply 47):|
IMHO....loss of an engine at or or just after rotation in a King Air is a serious handful. Losing an engine in any twin is a serious and genuine emergency, at rotation even more so, in a very complex aircraft even more so and single pilot.....well......While such a scenario is certainly doable there is very little room for error. I understand that it was quite windy as well so yet another variable stacked against this pilot.
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