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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:48 am

Looks like the Atlasjet order is with Airbus.

Reuters: Atlasjet To Order 30 A321s (by LAXintl Nov 6 2014 in Civil Aviation)

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As I asked in that thread - what will Atlasjet do with these planes? Where is the future growth going - charters, domestic full service or LCC, foreign partners, etc?
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:07 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 49):

Thank you very much for the details.

I think its hard for Lufthansa to stop Turkish Airlines but rather to cooperate.

Next year flights to Karlsruhe commence, thats a clever moove very promising.
The announced Kassel flights wont happen I guess. Next station might be Dortmund.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:57 pm

Today TK Q3-2014 financial report was filed to Istanbul Stock Exchange (BIST):

http://investor.turkishairlines.com/...14_09_Aylik_Finansal_Rapor.pdf.pdf

TK has 1.5B TL profit which is twice compared to Q3-2013. Moreover turnover is also increased by 50% and reached to 18.5B TL. Very good results over all.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:53 am

Great results by TK.

In other news, bit interesting turn of events with SAW airport.
Malaysia Airports Holdings has exercised its right of first refusal to buy the remaining 40% in SAW held by Turkish conglomerate the Limak Group, giving it 100% control of the airport. This move thwarts TAV (operator of IST) which wanted to purchase the 40% stake from Limak directly.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:02 pm

I read in the net that TK plans to commence flights to Abuja and Enugu (3rd and 4th destination in Nigeria) in March. Are these confirmed plans or just speculation?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:45 pm

And here is Q3-2014 results for Pegasus as filed to BIST:

http://www.pegasusyatirimciiliskiler...assets/file/pdf/PGSUS-30092014.pdf

Profit for Q3-2014 (EBIT) : 307M TL (+36%)

Revenue Q3-2014 : 2.42B TL (+33%)

So, Pegasus is also on a healthy growth track and its profitability is better than TK (which is normal I believe, due to its smaller size and LCC structure).
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:25 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 4):

Turkish to deploy A330 on Istanbul-Bangkok-Ho Chi Minh City from Feb-2015

Question, Will the A330 replace the A340 on the TK-068-069 route ?
I'm always confused but is the A330 equipped with the old angled seat or the new flat bed Business Class seats.
last week we had the A333 instead of the A340 which was a nice surprise.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:25 pm

TK investor update list following planned 2015 deliveries

5x 737-900
13 x A321
7 x A330-300
7 x 777-300ER
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TTL 32

Quoting Thaiflyer (Reply 56):
Question, Will the A330 replace the A340 on the TK-068-069 route ?

3 x per week, going daily in April.

Quoting Thaiflyer (Reply 56):
I'm always confused but is the A330 equipped with the old angled seat or the new flat bed Business Class seats. last week we had the A333 instead of the A340 which was a nice surprise.

Subject to change. At moment GDS default is "330", no specific model. In reality you will see the 333 in growing volume as ever more are delivered.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:00 pm

Quoting Thaiflyer (Reply 56):
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk69/
It seems to alternate, what did it say on the TK system as scheduled aircraft?

I'd check when booking if you do, hopefully they won't change equip to A343 last minute.  

The A333's are all pretty new so have with flat bed seats. It's the A330-200 with the older angled business class seats.

Here's the A333 seat layout:
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Tur...rkish_Airlines_Airbus_A330-300.php

[Edited 2014-11-11 15:04:50]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:47 am

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 58):
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk69/
It seems to alternate, what did it say on the TK system as scheduled aircraft?

I'd check when booking if you do, hopefully they won't change equip to A343 last minute.  

The A333's are all pretty new so have with flat bed seats. It's the A330-200 with the older angled business class seats.

Here's the A333 seat layout:
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Tur...rkish_Airlines_Airbus_A330-300.php

Hi TKA380

Thanks for the information but i'm confused about the information from your link.
The header says it is the TK-069 flight but it seems that the times are not correct.
The TK-069 flight is scheduled to leave BKK at 23:45 daily and not around 16:45 as mentioned in the link.

According the booking site on THY.COM the TK-068/069 flights for next year are done with the A343 but as found out many times the information on the booking site is not always correct.

As the plane is a A330 i presume that this is the A330-200 version with the older seats.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:27 am

Quoting Thaiflyer (Reply 59):
According the booking site on THY.COM the TK-068/069 flights for next year are done with the A343 but as found out many times the information on the booking site is not always correct.

As the plane is a A330 i presume that this is the A330-200 version with the older seats.

You need to advance to the seat selection section. The aircraft scheduled section one page earlier is useless!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:48 am

Quoting Thaiflyer (Reply 59):
Hi TKA380

Thanks for the information but i'm confused about the information from your link.
The header says it is the TK-069 flight but it seems that the times are not correct.
The TK-069 flight is scheduled to leave BKK at 23:45 daily and not around 16:45 as mentioned in the link.

those times are always UTC
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:42 pm

Seems like the long awaited apron expansion is finally having a happy ending. Today, many officials along with the CEO of Turkish Airlines have opened the new apron, which will allow to accomodate up to 26 aircraft.
I have personally experienced many times that gates and remote stands were not available and hence aircraft were waiting for several minutes. I am sure we will see a rapid improvement with respect to this.
http://kokpit.aero/26-ucaklik-park-yeri

However, how are they planning to handle the movements of ground staff as they will have to cross the runway 05 to reach the new apron?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:40 pm

Pegasus announced some new routes for summer 2015.

o Antalya to Tel Aviv
o Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen to London Gatwick (already serves STN)
o Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen to Nice
o Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen to Oslo
o Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen to Tunis
o Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen to Kutaisi
o Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen to Turkmenbashi

All start at the end of March 2015.

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 62):
However, how are they planning to handle the movements of ground staff as they will have to cross the runway 05 to reach the new apron?

There is a service road that winds by the arrival end of 23. No need to cross a runway.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:26 am

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 62):
Seems like the long awaited apron expansion is finally having a happy ending. Today, many officials along with the CEO of Turkish Airlines have opened the new apron, which will allow to accomodate up to 26 aircraft.
I have personally experienced many times that gates and remote stands were not available and hence aircraft were waiting for several minutes. I am sure we will see a rapid improvement with respect to this.
http://kokpit.aero/26-ucaklik-park-yeri

if you look at the latest google maps picture, is that this new apron located at the area just to the north of the stored six aircraft and being partly paved? if so, just by looking at the picture the size seems as big as the international terminal apron area. wow!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:51 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 63):
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen to London Gatwick

My LAS-LGW-IST commute just got cheaper  
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:00 pm

The newest TK commercial has been released;

Drogba vs Messi www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqANmV5TDmg
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:45 am

According to the Badisches Tagblatt, Turkish Airlines will start Istanbul - Karlsruhe / Baden service starting June 2015 with 4 weekly flights.

Der größte Coup ist Jung aber sicherlich mit Turkish Airlines gelungen. Nach "langen und zähen Verhandlungen" hat er die Zusage, dass es ab Juni bis zu viermal in der Woche nach Istanbul geht. "Die Flüge sind voraussichtlich ab März oder April buchbar", so Jung, der wegen der großen türkischen Gemeinden und dem Drehkreuz Atatürk-Flughafen viel von der Linie hält. Zudem sorgt Turkish Airlines als Schwergewicht der Branche für steigende Passagierzahlen. "2015 werden wir die Million wieder knacken", prognostiziert Jung. 1050000 Fluggäste sollen es letztlich werden. Wenn es für die nächsthöhere Schnapszahl reichen würde, wäre sicher auch keiner böse.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:08 pm

Ankara Chamber of Commerce and various other NGO's are lobbying among TK and other operators to reinstate direct flights between Ankara and London. Paris and Rome.

Hope this time it materializes. ESB needs to direct service to LHR and CDG immediately....
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:59 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 68):
ESB needs to direct service to LHR and CDG immediately....

rest assured that BA and AF respectively would have started the route if the demand warranties it.
still, I'm surprised not to see atleast Anadolujet or Pegasus doing ESB-STN/LGW. both fly from SAW though...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:03 pm

Quoting emrecan (Reply 66):

Loved that commercial.

TK makes the best commercials.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:07 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 68):
Quoting stylo777 (Reply 69):

With 5M+ dynamic population, ESB can for sure carry many direct flights at least to European cities.

But first step should be liberalisation of ESB-IST. International flights will automatically follow as TK will not sustain the big profit its making on this route.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:16 pm

reading the latest article about Ordu-Giresun airport I'm really wondering why they spent so much money, get rid of mountains and destroy the nature when both cities combined are rather small and situated roughly 1.5hrs each to Trabzon and Samsun?!? in my eyes a great way to waste tax money.

we always discussed it and I'll say it again, as long as the Turkish population doesn't understand that turbo prop aircraft aren't dangerous, all airlines trying to do regional flying will fail badly. the latest example being Borajet. even they changed to an all-Embraer fleet now and I'm pretty sure they make less money now and have a hard time filling those planes especially during the slow months. probably one of the reasons why they desperately trying to get into the core domestic markets such as Istanbul-Izmir/Ankara/Adana.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:23 pm

Quoting emrecan (Reply 66):

Love it! Already has 1.4 million views on YouTube in just a day!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:58 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 71):

Sorry, I'd like to clarify the following matter. Whenever ESB-Europe flights and TK is discussed, Adam Smith economy teaching is repeated with market worshiping:

Quoting :
rest assured that BA and AF respectively would have started the route if the demand warranties it.

Forget about ESB, BA and AF (even lately LH) can hardly sustain IST flights though nowadays IST is the 3rd biggest airport in Europe. For example while TK flies daily multiple A333/A321 flights to not only to CDG but also other cities in France, AF sends mostly an A319 in return, limited from CDG only. The case is more or less similar for BA and LH. In this regard, I can hardly accept an explanation for non-existance of TK ESB-Europe flights by giving examples of AF, etc.

Of course we can ask why Turkish Passengers do not fly BA, AF, etc. This is another debate but I suppose the main reason is the image of these countries in Turkey.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:08 pm

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 69):

BA and AF as well as many other European carriers are in financial trouble and are very cautious when it comes to launching new routes or to resume flights on former destinations. More than European carriers the first step should be by TK to launch ESB LHR and ESB CDG. Not by AnadoluJet but by mainline TK. This will also ease some transit traffic from LHR to various domestic destinations served by AnadoluJet from ESB as well as to Ercan and some near east destinations served directly from ESB.

AnadoluJet tried ESB STN for a while but STN is a LCC market only, ESB LHR will also feed Star Alliance connections by AC, UA etc. ex-LHR and will give good connections to ESB and attract good premium traffic from ESB LHR also on the North America transit traffic. TK may be unhappy with such as they are trying to fill exist flights on this segment but ESB needs LHR connection. TK would do better than BA even in spite of BA's dominant role at LHR because TK is more favored as an airline between UK and Turkey. LHR Terminal 2 is a great Star hub to serve for this purpose and 4 weekly ESB LHR flight with a 320 or 321 will do well in this route.
ESB CDG and ESB FCO can start thrice weekly initially with a 739 or 738 and will do well.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:22 am

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 68):
Hope this time it materializes. ESB needs to direct service to LHR and CDG immediately....

There is a way to do it, with lower capacity jets, but at the same time, it's cheaper to fly the people through IST.
Are people willing to pay the extra $$$ for the non-stops?

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 72):
the latest example being Borajet. even they changed to an all-Embraer fleet now and I'm pretty sure they make less money now and have a hard time filling those planes especially during the slow months. probably one of the reasons why they desperately trying to get into the core domestic markets such as Istanbul-Izmir/Ankara/Adana.

I mentioned before, I work for the biggest E-Jet operator in the world. (Borajet management doesn't care about it, becuase their heads are in their asses). I am not just a pilot, I am also an economist by training. I have seen the numbers how 190s work in the low cost operation and how they need higher yields than 320s, 737s. Borajet is trying to survive the winter months with some trunk routes. They might have a lower overhead, but their unit costs are much higher because of their size.

To this day they haven't answered the question "Why I should use Borajet vs. Pegasus / Turkish ?" out of SAW. Is it cheaper to fly them? If they offer the same route with lower fares, how are they going to keep the airline afloat? How are they going to make the route attractive to people with limited number of flights? TK has Miles and Smiles loyalty, what does Borajet have? It is nice to fly them to places like EDI, and BJV but why fly them to ADB ?

Just for the argument's sake I picked Dec 10 as the travel date for a same day out and back travel on SAW-ADB route:
TK has 8 outbound flights
PG has 12 outbound flights
Borajet has 3 flights.

Borajet's prices are the lowest, Pegasus comes second when you add up all the fees, TK is slightly higher. The highest promotional fare on TK is 54TLs that's about $20 USD.

I have a rough idea how much the leases on the 190s are and have a rough idea how much Borajet is paying for them. It's heck of a money to come up with selling $20 one way tickets. The advantage Pegasus has in this market , they can sell DXB-SAW-ADB for a great yield and take a loss on the SAW-ADB leg. Borajet cannot.. THY can do it at a lesser degree because their connecting airport is IST not SAW.

That's why selling their own tickets, is a doomed operation for Borajet. They will survive as long as their owner is willing to bank rolling them.. Turkish market is too small for an operation like this.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:18 am

Bahadir;

When you told the Borajet management regarding the operation cost of Embraer, what was their answer?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:42 am

I just read that IST will get another 4 gates, being capable of serving 2 planes each, plus another 10 bus gates. They tell that together with other minor improvements IST capacity will be 70 million pax. Seems that IST in short term is capable of growing beyond FRA and CDG in the terms of served pax, ot be 2nd behind LHR in 2016.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:49 pm

Quoting emrecan (Reply 77):
Bahadir;

When you told the Borajet management regarding the operation cost of Embraer, what was their answer?

You really want to know this?  
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Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:49 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 78):
I just read that IST will get another 4 gates, being capable of serving 2 planes each, plus another 10 bus gates. They tell that together with other minor improvements IST capacity will be 70 million pax. Seems that IST in short term is capable of growing beyond FRA and CDG in the terms of served pax, ot be 2nd behind LHR in 2016.

Project to be completed in 16 months and compasses other things such as additional luggage handling facility, bigger car parks and new check in area.

Interesting, seems like nobody believes that the new airport can be operational before 2020, otherwise I don't know who would invest 75 million just for 2 years if the relocation is supposed to be in 2018.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:37 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 80):

Do you have any idea where they are planning to put the additional boarding gates? If they are dual-aircraft capable they might also be A380 capable?

2020 seems to be utopic. There are still some legal questions to be answered by courts as far as i know...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 17, 2014 11:08 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 81):
If they are dual-aircraft capable they might also be A380 capable?

Maybe Emirates are interested in sending their A380 to IST? I can't think of any other airline (besides potentially TK) that would operate the A380 into Istanbul.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:08 am

TAV is happy to spend money on IST.
They are likely praying the 3rd airport is delayed as once it opens TAV will be out of business in Istanbul as they just lost their bid to buy part of SAW. IST currently generates more money for TAV than their 13 other airports combined.

At the end of the day, TAV will get a big check as their concession to run the airport at the moment is till 2022.
So their capital investments will be reimbursed by either the next operator, or incase of airport closure by the government.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:15 am

Off topic kinda, but TAV has done so much in the balkans especially in SKP. SKP is now probably the best airport in the Balkans. Besides it being brand new, they keep it very tidy and clean.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:06 am

Looks like Turkey and the Philippines has signed an expanded air services agreement to allow direct flights for the first time between the two countries, the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) said.

I wonder how soon will both TK and PR start direct flights between the two Countries i know there has been talk of TK flying to MNL for a while now here is the link http://www.philstar.com/headlines/20...k-air-pact-allowing-direct-flights
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:00 am

Quoting TK773ER (Reply 85):
Looks like Turkey and the Philippines has signed an expanded air services agreement to allow direct flights for the first time between the two countries, the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) said.

I wonder how soon will both TK and PR start direct flights between the two Countries i know there has been talk of TK flying to MNL for a while now here is the link http://www.philstar.com/headlines/20...k-air-pact-allowing-direct-flights

The whole negotiation for 3 weekly flights only? Do not know whether it would be possible to operate efficiently.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:04 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 81):
Do you have any idea where they are planning to put the additional boarding gates? If they are dual-aircraft capable they might also be A380 capable?

The gates will be for 4 WB or 8NB aircraft. They are planned in the area where the old cargo terminal is at the moment. I don't think that they will be A380 capable, since the rest of the airport is not.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:32 pm

Quoting TK773ER (Reply 85):
Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 86):

According to this, TK wishes to fly daily to MNL :

http://www.rappler.com/nation/75289-turkey-philippines-visit-talks
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:52 pm

According to Airporthaber TK is going to decouple Johannesburg and Capetown, so that each of them becomes a terminator flight.

Interesting move, what is the current bilateral with South Africa?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:21 pm

Speaking about the 3rd airport, lead architect firm UK based Grimshaw, released updated images of its design plans.

Initial phase is scaled for 90-million annual passengers, with follow on terminal phases planned to accommodate up to 150-million.


http://ad009cdnb.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/546a6fe3e58ecea75a00002a_grimshaw-releases-new-images-of-world-s-largest-airport-terminal-in-istanbul_istanbul_new_airport__airside_01.jpg

http://ad009cdnb.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/546a7007e58ecea75a00002b_grimshaw-releases-new-images-of-world-s-largest-airport-terminal-in-istanbul_istanbul_new_airport_departures_01.jpg

http://ad009cdnb.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/546a702fe58ece7d2500002f_grimshaw-releases-new-images-of-world-s-largest-airport-terminal-in-istanbul_istanbul_new_airport_retail_area.jpg

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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:37 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 90):
Initial phase is scaled for 90-million annual passengers, with follow on terminal phases planned to accommodate up to 150-million.


How many contact gates for the first phase?
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:52 pm

The below was announced early 2013, so cant be sure its totally accurate still, but gives you an idea.


Stage 1
- Main terminal with 680,000sq meter - capacity 90 mil
- 88+ jetway contact gates
- Car park for 42,000 cars
- three independent runways
- 3.1mil sq meter apron

Stage 2
- additional terminal - 200,000 sq meter
- additional satellite building 170,000sq meter
- additional runway additional high speed taxiways for existing runways
- additional 1mil sq meter apron

Stage 3
- additional terminal - 200,000 sq meter
- additional runway taxiway systems
- additional 1mil sq meter apron

Stage 4
- additional terminal - 250,000 sq meter
- additional runway additional taxiways
- Additional 0.9mil sq meter apron

Key facts:
- 1.5mil sq terminal space area
- Capacity of 150mil passengers per year
- 6 runways (4 parallel 2 crosswind parallel) all VLA capable
- 165 jetway contact gates
- intra-terminal rail connection
- 3 separate maintenance hangar areas
- 8 cargo ramp areas
- Apron space for 500 aircraft spread over 6.5mil sq meters
- Direct airport auto parking lots for 70,000 cars
- Additional adjacent facilities including hospital, hotels, mosque, congress center, waste recycling and water treatment facility.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:37 pm

QR will go double daily from SAW next year.

Well, this is a real blow for TK, since many pax originating from Kocaeli, Bursa and even Istanbul will be taking this opportunity to travel with them with efficient connecting times. I was expecting this, but not that fast to be honest!

http://www.qatarairways.com/qa/en/pr...srelease_191114_istanbul_frequency
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:57 pm

Those designs look stunning. I really hope the project is a success.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:29 pm

Here is the photo of TK A321 Engine after hitting a bird while taking off at IST. (source : kokpit.aero)

http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p682/UmutAydinOrtana/TKA321EngineDamage_zps439eaa8f.jpg
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:58 pm

A bit off topic...
I missed my chance to fly on a B717 for the first time. DL 996 yesterday FLL-LGA, we were about to line up and takeoff when the pilot announced that the number 2 engine is not coming on. That led to a 15 hour delay, hotels, meal vouchers and such. All handled very professionally, no screaming jerks....
Still, I booked myself to another flight on a A319 instead and I have no idea that flight ever left today.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:04 pm

after opening the former military part of IST airport for civil aviation, how is the current level of usage? any experiences/observations from our local guys?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:17 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 96):
A bit off topic...
I missed my chance to fly on a B717 for the first time. DL 996 yesterday FLL-LGA, we were about to line up and takeoff when the pilot announced that the number 2 engine is not coming on. That led to a 15 hour delay, hotels, meal vouchers and such. All handled very professionally, no screaming jerks....
Still, I booked myself to another flight on a A319 instead and I have no idea that flight ever left today.

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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:54 pm

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 97):
after opening the former military part of IST airport for civil aviation, how is the current level of usage? any experiences/observations from our local guys?

Does anyone know where I can see some pictures of the renovated ex-military area?

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