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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:05 pm

Quoting bahadir (Reply 98):
better overhead bins

Yes, I think it is possible to put a cello up there  . Nice legroom and powerports also. I was at 20D exit row. No kitchen back of the plane, just two bathroom doors facing each other and rear exit (or whatever they call it). I got a taste of it except for the ride.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:52 pm

The new airport is somewhat is a ways out of Sultanahmet/City Center. I was wondering if any rail was being planned between the Airport and the city center?
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:17 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 100):
Yes, I think it is possible to put a cello up there . Nice legroom and powerports also. I was at 20D exit row. No kitchen back of the plane, just two bathroom doors facing each other and rear exit (or whatever they call it). I got a taste of it except for the ride.

Jumpseat is better than DC9/MD80 as well.   (rubbing it in)

Quoting lxa333 (Reply 101):
The new airport is somewhat is a ways out of Sultanahmet/City Center. I was wondering if any rail was being planned between the Airport and the city center?

Rail connection is in the plans, but seems to me the 3rd bridge and connectors are going to show up there first.. That is , IF, they can finish the airport. Currently a regional airport construction on southeastern Turkey town of Adana is stopped because of financing issues. This one is probably 1/10th of the size of Istanbul 3rd airport. I foresee similar issues for this new airport in Istanbul.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:18 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 100):
Yes, I think it is possible to put a cello up there . Nice legroom and powerports also. I was at 20D exit row. No kitchen back of the plane, just two bathroom doors facing each other and rear exit (or whatever they call it). I got a taste of it except for the ride.

Jumpseat is better than DC9/MD80 as well.   (rubbing it in)

Quoting lxa333 (Reply 101):
The new airport is somewhat is a ways out of Sultanahmet/City Center. I was wondering if any rail was being planned between the Airport and the city center?

Rail connection is in the plans, but seems to me the 3rd bridge and connectors are going to show up there first.. That is , IF, they can finish the airport. Currently a regional airport construction on southeastern Turkey town of Adana is stopped because of financing issues. This one is probably 1/10th of the size of Istanbul 3rd airport. I foresee similar issues for this new airport in Istanbul.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:49 pm

DL to upgauge JFK-IST to A333.
Still seasonal, still too little too late.

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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:52 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 104):
http://www.airporthaber.com/havacili...eri/deltadan-istanbul-hamlesi.html

Still reading that [email protected] website?  

Yeah, DL needs to do this year around.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:50 am

Hey guys long time no see hope everyone is well.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 83):

I am glad TAV is investing in IST, I hate the location the owner/operators of the 3rd airport and I know it will be delayed so we will need IST for a long time.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 104):

WOW. DL making an equipment change at IST where have they been for the last 15 years  I wish them the best, meanwhile I am very happy I made the switch to TK on the route albeit late(Laxintl was right again)
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:02 pm

Quoting gokmengs (Reply 106):
WOW. DL making an equipment change at IST where have they been for the last 15 years I wish them the best, meanwhile I am very happy I made the switch to TK on the route albeit late(Laxintl was right again)

So that you know DL operated this very same flight with Airbus few years ago with 330s. I believe it was 2010. It was an equipment change for the summer.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:58 pm

Any clarity on the news that TK is finally de-tagging CPT flights and will be serving nonstop from October 2015?
Can't find much information, which aircraft will then be used on both CPT and JNB?
This leaves JNB with possibility to add new tag-on flights? (DUR, MPM, WDH, HRE?) Or is JNB flights doing well enough to warrant own stand alone flight then?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:04 pm

According to www.thy.com , both routes will be flown by A330..
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:28 pm

Quoting bahadir (Reply 107):

I remember I was flying DL back then it was 332 IIRC. I flew 900K miles with DL 800 of it on 767 to IST 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:46 pm

Quoting GRJGeorge (Reply 108):
Any clarity on the news that TK is finally de-tagging CPT flights and will be serving nonstop from October 2015?
Can't find much information, which aircraft will then be used on both CPT and JNB?

TK044 IST0115 – 1250CPT 330 D
TK045 CPT1800 – 0500+1IST 330 D

TK042 IST0050 – 1040JNB 330 D
TK043 JNB1945 – 0520+1IST 330 D

Extremely long layover there in JNB, I think that is a record for TK. There is a new ASA between Turkey and South Africa that was recently signed AFAIK.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:16 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 111):
There is a new ASA between Turkey and South Africa that was recently signed AFAIK.

Talking about ASA's, Turkey signed new bilaterals with Guinea-Bissau and Jamaica and renewed/revised bilaterals with KSA and Jordan.
There is also mentioned that bilaterals with Bahrain, Iran, Canada, Qatar, Kenia, Hungary, Malta, Nigeria and Sudan are revised.

Has anybody insight of the agreements?? Especially with Canada as it seems very difficult to obtain increased traffic rights.

Talks were also helt with several other nations, I wonder if they end up with revisions as there are also hard nuts like India and Pakistan.


edit: http://web.shgm.gov.tr/tr/manset-hab...ik-muzakereleri-bayragini-devraldi

[Edited 2014-11-26 15:17:31]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:53 am

Quoting tkfan (Reply 112):

I would not be surprised to see TK starting YVR IST as their third destination in Canada. YVR will be a great market for TK with huge demand for East Europe, MENA and India. Will really make things difficult for BA and LH
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:15 am

Turkish Airlines announces new 5 weekly nonstop flights to Abuja, Nigeria effective 03MAR15 using a B739ER.

TK 623 Dep IST1725 Arr ABV 2255
TK 624 Dep ABV 2355 Arr IST 0705+1

Looks like they are mainly banking on traffic bound to TLV, BEY, JED, MED and UK with this schedule.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:22 am

Will both flights to JNB and CPT now be operated with A330-200, currently it is A330-300.

Will TK perhaps consider adding a new tag-on flight to JNB, with lots of ground time now? Or does JNB now warrant it's own standalone flight...would think so if they reckon CPT does?

Perhaps tag-on to DUR, MPM, HRE or WDH
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:47 am

I think the real reason for the long JNB layover is to have the aircraft wait in the outstation than wait in the already busy IST, along with arriving just in the time to catch the morning departure wave from IST.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:17 pm

Does anyone know if the A320 serves a special purpose in Pegasus' fleet or do they use normally, just like the B737-800? I am just wondering if they got the A320 for some special routes.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:23 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 111):
TK044 IST0115 – 1250CPT 330 D
TK044 IST0115 – 1250CPT 330 D
TK045 CPT1800 – 0500+1IST 330 D

TK042 IST0050 – 1040JNB 330 D
TK043 JNB1945 – 0520+1IST 330 D

Is there a special reason why they chose to fly to JNB at 00:50 and to CPT at 01:15 and did not swich to this:
TK044a IST0050 – 1225CPT 330 D
TK045a CPT1820 – 0520+1IST 330 D

TK042a IST0115 – 1105JNB 330 D
TK043a JNB1925 – 0500+1IST 330 D

Would be much more sychnronized (if this has a benefit).
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:39 pm

I'm now at new domestic terminal of ADB as I do a daily ESB-ADB-ESB hop on Anadolujet.

I must say that, this new domestic terminal is an excellent design and TAV's workmanship is at its best. Well done TAV! Appreciated...

  
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:21 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 113):
I would not be surprised to see TK starting YVR IST as their third destination in Canada. YVR will be a great market for TK with huge demand for East Europe, MENA and India. Will really make things difficult for BA and LH

I guess if Air Canada has positive results by codesharing with TK, Turkish Airlines might indeed get additional rights including other routes. Vancouver would be the most logical choice.

Quoting Ju068 (Reply 117):
Does anyone know if the A320 serves a special purpose in Pegasus' fleet or do they use normally, just like the B737-800? I am just wondering if they got the A320 for some special routes.

Pegasus subsequently will replace its boeing fleet by A320/321. Afaik they have 50+25 on order.


And finally good news for our fellow Member 'Miami', his prayers are heared 
TK's Chairman Hamdi Topcu told in an interview the next Longhaul routes to be inaugrated in 2015/16 are MNL, SFO, HAN and MIA

Quote:

2015-2016 döneminde açılması planlanan hatlar hangileri?

Dışhatlarda Manila (Filipinler), San Fransisco (ABD), Hanoi (Vietnam), Miami (ABD) ve iç hatlarda ise Hakkari hattını açmayı planlıyoruz.

link: http://www.airporthaber.com/havacili...pcudan-flas-aciklamalar-51705.html
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:03 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 111):
TK042 IST0050 – 1040JNB 330 D
TK043 JNB1945 – 0520+1IST 330 D

This is also the current schedule. Only now the A333 flies JNB-CPT-JNB during that time between 10:40 and 19:45.
AT7/111/146/Avro/CRJ/CR9/EMB/ERJ/E75/F50/100/L15/DC9/D10/M8X/717/727/737/747/757/767/777/787/AB6/310/32X/330/340/350/380
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:33 pm

Very interesting:

Presidential airplane Turkey-1 (A330) is becoming a headache for TK and government.

It has been revealed that Presidential VIP Airplane was purchased and maintained by TK for the usage of Turkish Government. Some small TK shareholders applied to IMKB (BIST - Stock Exchange of Istanbul) and SPK (SEC of Turkey) claiming that this is a covered transfer of profit of TK and against law. If SPK reports this situation to court, this act is punishable by law for 3 to 7 years in prison for Board of Directors of TK. It is said that SPK is looking for a solution to cover up this situation but this will lead to international questioning of SPK's credibility. So indeed an interesting situation.

Here is the news published on a well known opposition web site:

http://odatv.com/n.php?n=ucagi-da-kacak-cikti-2811141200
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:14 pm

Starting from 01.03.2015 Qatar Airways will be de-linking Belgrade and Ankara as the new routing will be DOH-SOF-BEG. Maybe Ankara will finally get a direct flight.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:19 pm

Quoting Ju068 (Reply 123):
Maybe Ankara will finally get a direct flight.

ESB-DOH is already a direct flight.  
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:28 pm

Quoting Ju068 (Reply 123):

Not to divert the topic but you might want to check again. It's now DOH-SOF-BEG from March 2015

And also, DOH-ESB goes 6 weekly, and will have a split schedule from the same date.

[Edited 2014-11-28 05:30:40]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:16 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 122):
Very interesting:

Not sure what the problem is. TK has long operated the government A319CJ, and going back in time also managed the Gulfstream business jet fleet. TK today even supports the TuAF 737 Wedgetail fleet.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:41 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 124):

Hahahaha yes, sorry about that. I suppose this comes as good news for all of you in Ankara.

Quoting atal17 (Reply 125):

Isn't that what i wrote?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:56 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 122):
Very interesting:

Presidential airplane Turkey-1 (A330) is becoming a headache for TK and government.

It has been revealed that Presidential VIP Airplane was purchased and maintained by TK for the usage of Turkish Government. Some small TK shareholders applied to IMKB (BIST - Stock Exchange of Istanbul) and SPK (SEC of Turkey) claiming that this is a covered transfer of profit of TK and against law. If SPK reports this situation to court, this act is punishable by law for 3 to 7 years in prison for Board of Directors of TK. It is said that SPK is looking for a solution to cover up this situation but this will lead to international questioning of SPK's credibility. So indeed an interesting situation.

Here is the news published on a well known opposition web site:

http://odatv.com/n.php?n=ucagi-da-kacak-cikti-2811141200

That's pretty cool. Hope this whole story will escalate. Curios what will happen.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:00 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 126):

As far as I understand, the issue is not operating those aircraft you mentioned as TK is invoicing these costs to respective governmental authorities.

Being a BIST listed company, TK is obliged to protect its shareholders, especially the small noname shareholders which can not hear their voices to TK Management. It is also said that these small shareholders are not only local ones but also international ones.

In Turkey-1 VIP Airplane case, TK purchased this plane from its own pocket using its own profit. They are claiming that, instead of buying this aircraft which is not directly or indirectly revenue/profit generating for TK, Board of Directors should have distributed this money as profit to shareholders. In the current circumstance, it is covered transfer of profit of TK to others (i.e. government of Turkey).

If SPK concludes that these allegations have a point and inform/report this to court for investigation, it is said that all Board of Directors of TK is sacked automatically. And after court investigation, members of TK board may be punished between 3 to 7 years in prison.

However I'm sure that SPK will find a way to save the situation. If not, Government will step in and even change law if necessary or perhaps buy the airplane from TK.

International credibility of SPK and BIST? Credibility of TK? These questions will last for some more time after all is set and done.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2014

Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:34 pm

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