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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:56 pm

Quoting Thomaas (Reply 45):

Not having a TV in front of you for a couple of hours isn't bad. That goes to anyone for that matter. They do have TVs over the seats every 3-5 rows or so on their 757s. Just give it time I'm sure there's already plans to install PTVs. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't they have some system now where if you pay for the wifi they have movie streaming?
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:56 pm

I'm guessing most of the passengers on the BHX-JFK flight will be heading to Canada, Caribbean and west coast USA.
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:03 pm

Quoting commavia (Thread starter):
AA108 LAX1755 – 1225+1LHR 77W D *NEW
AA136 LAX1935 – 1415+1LHR 77W D
AA109 LHR1215 – 1540LAX 77W D *NEW
AA135 LHR1400 – 1730LAX 77W D

The new AA 108/109 is basically replacing the old BA283/282. Just about the same schedule.
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:06 pm

Quoting AF1565 (Reply 51):
I'm guessing most of the passengers on the BHX-JFK flight will be heading to Canada, Caribbean and west coast USA

Seems very specific, what makes you guess that ? Im guessing a large number will just be going to NYC
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:11 pm

Quoting 4engines4lnghll (Reply 50):

It's 7 hours not a couple of hours. It is incredibly boring and awful to endure.
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:11 pm

Quoting AF1565 (Reply 51):

Florida more like it.
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:15 pm

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 54):

Well then if you're that bored then cough up the cash and buy wifi.



[Edited 2014-11-01 12:27:33]
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:18 pm

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 46):

That's an AA domestic 757 cabin, the N6***** fleet.They don't run them over the Atlantic - only the N1**** batch.

At the end of the day the bed on an AA 757 ain't that different to a BA 777 or downstairs on the 747.
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:22 pm

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 54):
Quoting 4engines4lnghll (Reply 50):

It's 7 hours not a couple of hours. It is incredibly boring and awful to endure.

Do you know about those things made of paper that have words on them and many pages? They might help you pass the time also if there is no TV.   But yeah, I do agree though that AA's 757s are miserable for long flights. I have a lot of tolerance for this stuff and I still found the LPB-VVI-MIA flight really awful in an AA 757.
 
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Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:22 pm

Glad to hear about the new routes. I dont mean to spoil the party, but after hearing how the "game-changing" 787 would revolutionize long and thin routes for years now, one might ask why these routes are flown by 757s with their days counted..
 
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Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:13 pm

I don't know why everyone is saying that we should use books. A hello this is 2014 and we are talking about a long haul route. On most airlines these days we have TVs and also possibly wifi so I was just pointing out how they have a competitive disadvantage.
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:35 pm

I have flown those international B757s from AA and they are dreadful. It is not only the lack of PTV but the "narrow-bodyness" and the old fabrics and style that make the flight and the general atmosphere so unappealing for a long-haul flight. It is as cozy as Greyhound.
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:39 pm

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 60):
I don't know why everyone is saying that we should use books. A hello this is 2014 and we are talking about a long haul route. On most airlines these days we have TVs and also possibly wifi so I was just pointing out how they have a competitive disadvantage.

There's no non stop competition between JFK and either of these cities.

So you can connect via LHR or CDG and get TVs on the long haul. And sit around an ugly airport where you can 1. get delayed 2. lose a bag 3. misconnect 4. run between terminals

OR

You can do what most people do...book the non stop flight and dust off an Agatha Christie from 20 years ago. And they will get a premium over the connecting competition.
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:48 pm

OR fly on United which will be able.
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:50 pm

When most people purchase a ticket PTV's are hardly ever one the determining factors for what airline they end up choosing.
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:56 pm

Is it me or US airlines are following in the steps of the ME3+1 in Europe?
There seems to be a tendency to fly to secondary European destinations to feed their home hubs, just like what EK, TK and QR have done - and EY through acquisition.
I like the strategy, but what I dont like is the equipment. If they want to succeed, at least on the east side of the pond, they need to rejuvenate their fleet.
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:58 pm

Quoting chepos (Reply 64):
When most people purchase a ticket PTV's are hardly ever one the determining factors for what airline they end up choosing.

TATL, it is from northern European markets anyway. If you have neither PTVs or power you need to be massively cheaper for people to consider you.
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:00 pm

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 61):

I have flown those international B757s from AA and they are dreadful. It is not only the lack of PTV but the "narrow-bodyness" and the old fabrics and style that make the flight and the general atmosphere so unappealing for a long-haul flight. It is as cozy as Greyhound.


Please. They have brand new interiors with modern day articulated seats, actual padding (not the slim line garbage), DC power outlets and winged headrests. Let's not be over dramatic. Not the best seat in the world, but it's fine for a quick hop to Europe.

Also re PHLEDI, yes it is still bookable for now, but JFKEDI is not bookable despite being loaded into the schedules. PHLEDI passengers will probably be rebooked over next weekend I assume.

[Edited 2014-11-01 14:10:51]
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:02 pm

Quoting EIDL (Reply 66):

Which they don't have.!
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:12 pm

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 46):

Please just compare

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Ameri...d=ecaa727ad1c8e0bca6c431392f65037a

to this
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Conti...7799/

So, compare a domestic AA 757 to an international UA 757?

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 54):
It's 7 hours not a couple of hours. It is incredibly boring and awful to endure.

How many people onboard the redeye leg are going to be awake for the entire flight? Not many. On the westbound daytime leg, pay for the wifi and stream something on your own device. If it matters to them as much as it seems to matter to you, then they'll pay for it.

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 60):
I don't know why everyone is saying that we should use books. A hello this is 2014 and we are talking about a long haul route

I don't really know what to make of that comment. Are you saying that people who still read books aren't up with the times? Because that's what it sounds like to me.

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 63):
OR fly on United which will be able.

I live on Long Island and I would not schlep all the way to EWR just to get a TV. If the price is better, sure. But not for a TV. Many people will agree.

Quoting chepos (Reply 64):
When most people purchase a ticket PTV's are hardly ever one the determining factors for what airline they end up choosing.

Exactly. Especially when you can still get TV on your own device.

Quoting VCEflyboy (Reply 59):
Glad to hear about the new routes. I dont mean to spoil the party, but after hearing how the "game-changing" 787 would revolutionize long and thin routes for years now, one might ask why these routes are flown by 757s with their days counted..

I'd imagine that, once the routes that require a smaller plane with the longer range of the 787 are covered, we'll start seeing the 787s filtered in on routes like this one.

Quoting StuGLA (Reply 49):
With UA, US and now AA flying into EDI with 757s, I wonder what type they'll use if the routes are still operated when the 757s are retired (assuming an upguage isn't required).

It'll be interesting to see who orders the long-range version of the A321NEO. I imagine that'll be a determining factor.
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:19 pm

I am talking about British people. We will go for United. Anyway just wanted to make the point that they have a competitive disadvantage.

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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:21 pm

VERY pleased about BHX.
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:38 pm

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 70):

Then representing us "British People" you're talking out your arse. Most people will take price. People like myself will blindly follow an alliance - I don't sit in row 15 or whichever it is you claim to be horrendous and I guess that's why AA pamper to people like me and not you  

Anyways your AA bashing on several threads this last week is frankly boring - school starts again Monday though eh?
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:41 pm

Frostyj continue to fly UAL on all your TATL crossings.

[Edited 2014-11-01 14:43:26]

[Edited 2014-11-01 14:44:34]
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:44 pm

Quoting by738 (Reply 9):
Potentially 5 flights a day from EDI to US including 3 to NYC from just 2 previously - is that sensible yield management ? (plus now NCL and 2 flights from GLA).

Since when is NCL getting any TATL operations?
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:48 pm

I so want to see DL return to Scotland! I would be thrilled to see DL do a ATL-GLA, ATL-EDI (return) or would even settle for a JFK-GLA or return of JFK-EDI. Maybe DL could trial a DTW to GLA or EDI also. Come on DL!
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Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:52 pm

Quoting commavia (Thread starter):
> Return of AA to BHX for first time since 2002 (previously from ORD)

IIRC, US flew to BHX in 2009.

Quoting AF1565 (Reply 51):
I'm guessing most of the passengers on the BHX-JFK flight will be heading to Canada, Caribbean and west coast USA

I find that a rather odd guess. My guess is most are heading to the largest O&D destination, New York, and some might connect to Florida, although JFK is not a hub.
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:54 pm

Quoting VCEflyboy (Reply 65):
Is it me or US airlines are following in the steps of the ME3+1 in Europe?

That was the playbook for CO, and to a lesser extent DL and US, from quite some time ago. AA wasn't quite as bad as NW (its robust 4 1/2 city European network - just fly 'em to AMS and let KL do it) but it now seems to recognize there's more to Europe than LHR.
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:54 pm

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 55):
Florida more like it.

  

Quoting speedbirdegjj (Reply 57):
That's an AA domestic 757 cabin
Quoting MesaFlyGuy (Reply 69):
So, compare a domestic AA 757 to an international UA 757?

It is to all intents and purposes identical in Y.

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 60):
I don't know why everyone is saying that we should use books. A hello this is 2014 and we are talking about a long haul route. On most airlines these days we have TVs and also possibly wifi so I was just pointing out how they have a competitive disadvantage.

Firstly, UA aren't perfect either: take a look at their 747 interior, and some of their 767s aren't much better. Secondly, if you know in advance that you don't have AVOD then you can load up your iPad with movies and bring along your own; I did precisely that a couple of months ago flying Jetstar SYD-HNL as they don't offer AVOD on a 10 hour flight, and it worked surprisingly well. Of course the difference is that not offering the services customers expect is more palatable on an LCC compared to a "full service" carrier,

One thing Frostyj is right about is that UA is the carrier to beat in these markets, and it won't be easy. CO have been flying to regional UK markets for a decade or more, and have built up a loyal FF group within the business communities in these markets (among people who travel to the USA) as UA via EWR is in many cases their number one option to the USA. EDI will have more BA loyalty, if only for the shuttle, but it has been years since BA flew to BHX so AA is going to have to start from scratch.
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:31 pm

Quoting 4engines4lnghll (Reply 50):
Not having a TV in front of you for a couple of hours isn't bad. That goes to anyone for that matter. They do have TVs over the seats every 3-5 rows or so on their 757s. Just give it time I'm sure there's already plans to install PTVs. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't they have some system now where if you pay for the wifi they have movie streaming?


AA's 757s DO NOT have wifi. For everyone that is saying "pay up if you want entertainment", you can't even do that.

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 67):
Please. They have brand new interiors with modern day articulated seats, actual padding (not the slim line garbage), DC power outlets and winged headrests. Let's not be over dramatic. Not the best seat in the world, but it's fine for a quick hop to Europe.

DC power outlets are a joke, you need a DC adaptor (which nobody carriers around as their use is becoming more and more limited).
 
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Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:07 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 78):

Yes this is what I will be saying. They have a lot to prove. United has served our airports for so long now that they are like part of the airport and people know them.

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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:14 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 32):
AA equipped with the same exact lie flats as the 3-class 772s.

The TATL AA 757 F seats are the same as the J seats on the AA 3 class 772s?????? They look very different to me!
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:15 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 78):
One thing Frostyj is right about is that UA is the carrier to beat in these markets, and it won't be easy. CO have been flying to regional UK markets for a decade or more, and have built up a loyal FF group within the business communities in these markets (among people who travel to the USA) as UA via EWR is in many cases their number one option to the USA. EDI will have more BA loyalty, if only for the shuttle, but it has been years since BA flew to BHX so AA is going to have to start from scratch.

I think it's important not to underestimate the BA connection with respect to the U.K. regions (not that AA is necessarily unknown to non-London U.K., either). The combination of a nonstop to JFK on AA plus connectivity to virtually anywhere else of consequence through LHR on BA is quite a powerful one. As for BHX, while it's true that AA itself has not flown to BHX in years, and neither has BA, I would still guess that there are plenty of BA FFs in the BHX area.
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:31 pm

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 63):
OR fly on United which will be able.

Below quote handles the NY end. Few are going to chose to drive to a different airport for a TV dude. Most people in Y dont even know what plane they are flying on.

Quoting MesaFlyGuy (Reply 69):
I live on Long Island and I would not schlep all the way to EWR just to get a TV. If the price is better, sure. But not for a TV. Many people will agree.

Correct. Nor would most people from Jersey go to JFK to fly on a specific airplane.

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 70):
I am talking about British people. We will go for United. Anyway just wanted to make the point that they have a competitive disadvantage.

I flew on an ancient AA 767 from Milan. Packed with Italians coming back to JFK. DL/AZ/Emirates all on the route. Y is price sensitive and nothing more.

Again, as a pilot, most Y bargain pax don't even know the airline they are flying on. And 2 months later, most don't remember what airline they were flying on. It's reality.
 
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Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:56 pm

Quoting robso2 (Reply 74):

UA start seasonal NCL-EWR 5 x weekly May 2015
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:00 am

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 84):

Well that's NYC but sometimes I do wonder if most of the seats are taken up by locals. I have used them a few times and only out of Dublin was the majority of the passengers American.
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:02 am

Great adds! Note that JFK-EDI/BHX is that not THAT long for a 757. You won't risk diversion like what happens frequently on BCN-EWR.
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:20 am

Quoting commavia (Reply 83):
I think it's important not to underestimate the BA connection with respect to the U.K. regions

I understand what you are saying, and think that this is especially pertinent in Edinburgh as people who travel to London a lot on business are quite likely to be BA FFs. However, I know from personal experience (having lived in Manchester for years) that as our travel was skewed heavily towards the USA we flew CO and then US as EWR in particular (PHL perhaps less so) were significantly more convenient connection options than LHR (admittedly this was pre-T5). While there are undoubtedly a lot of BA FFs in the regions, there are also a lot of UA FFs (in particular) among people whose travel habits skew westbound.

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 86):
I have used them a few times and only out of Dublin was the majority of the passengers American.

I think this swings depending on season etc. In all my time flying CO MAN-EWR and US MAN-PHL I distinctly remember the passenger profile being heavily skewed towards British accents. Last year, however, I flew BA LHR-EWR and from the accents I heard the vast majority of passengers appeared to be Americans. Totally non-scientific samples, of course!
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:26 am

Quoting Flighty (Reply 76):
Quoting commavia (Thread starter):
> Return of AA to BHX for first time since 2002 (previously from ORD)

IIRC, US flew to BHX in 2009.

Yes they did to PHL was it not? B752, only lasted the one summer season, I think JFK will do better as there is a good mix of O&D plus connections nationwide across North/Central/South America
 
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:33 am

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 80):
Be realistic though.

What's so unrealistic about his wishes?
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:37 am

FRA and EDI are transferred rights so not new and BHX crashed and burned twice for AA and UA does it successfully out of EWR so this is a total fail a la DL dartboad imho. JFK international for AA is like so 2006. Anyways...
 
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:30 am

Quoting Thomaas (Reply 79):
AA's 757s DO NOT have wifi. For everyone that is saying "pay up if you want entertainment", you can't even do that.

The entire domestic 757 fleet has wifi. The international does not.

Quoting Thomaas (Reply 79):
DC power outlets are a joke, you need a DC adaptor (which nobody carriers around as their use is becoming more and more limited).

I meant AC outlets. The 757 has regular AC outlets.


[quote=N62NA,reply=82]The TATL AA 757 F seats are the same as the J seats on the AA 3 class 772s?????? They look very different to me! [/quote

Same model, but the 75L seats actually are slightly wider. You aren't comparing the right cabins if they "look very different."
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:35 am

It took flight numbers from DFW-GIG (AA 250/251) so i believe now is the end of Dallas-Rio route.
(and probably the 763 as with one frame they can fly MIA-FRA-MIA)
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:38 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 93):
(and probably the 763 as with one frame they can fly MIA-FRA-MIA)

Not with the timings they have. AS you can see below, the FRA-MIA flight arrives ten minutes after the MIA-FRA flight leaves.

Quoting commavia (Thread starter):
MIA-FRA (starting 14 May)
> Return of route which hasn't operated since 1997

AA250 MIA1445 – 0615+FRA 763 D
AA251 FRA1000 – 1455MIA 763 D
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:59 am

Quoting EIDL (Reply 66):
Quoting chepos (Reply 64):
When most people purchase a ticket PTV's are hardly ever one the determining factors for what airline they end up choosing.


TATL, it is from northern European markets anyway. If you have neither PTVs or power you need to be massively cheaper for people to consider you.

I disagree. The vast majority of longhaul Y class passengers only fly once a year or probably less, and are only interested in the lowest fare and/or the most convenient schedules. With rare exceptions they have no idea what type of aircraft they're flying on or the difference in inflight products, e.g. 9-abreast vs. 10-abreast 777s etc. I expect inflight entertainment is close to the bottom of their list of priorities when booking.

[Edited 2014-11-01 19:36:52]
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:34 am

I for one hate the entertainment systems that require those big electrical boxes under the seat. Personally, I would prefer having unrestricted leg room, and I would be happy to load a couple of movies on my iPad instead, before boarding a 7hr flight.
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:42 am

Quoting PHX Flyer (Reply 96):
I for one hate the entertainment systems that require those big electrical boxes under the seat. Personally, I would prefer having unrestricted leg room, and I would be happy to load a couple of movies on my iPad instead, before boarding a 7hr flight.

Best to avoid AA's newest batch of 763s (N342AN-N350AN) as they have those IFE boxes without having any PTVs!

[Edited 2014-11-01 19:43:33]
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:20 am

Quoting 4engines4lnghll (Reply 50):
Not having a TV in front of you for a couple of hours isn't bad. That goes to anyone for that matter. They do have TVs over the seats every 3-5 rows or so on their 757s. Just give it time I'm sure there's already plans to install PTVs. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't they have some system now where if you pay for the wifi they have movie streaming?

No plans to install PTVs on any 757 and no international wi-fi on any 757.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 52):
The new AA 108/109 is basically replacing the old BA283/282. Just about the same schedule.

And the flight number is coming from the current MIA-LHR 3x weekly.

Quoting speedbirdegjj (Reply 57):
That's an AA domestic 757 cabin, the N6***** fleet.They don't run them over the Atlantic - only the N1**** batch.

Everything from row 9 on back is identical regardless of whether it is an international or domestic 757.

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 62):
So you can connect via LHR or CDG and get TVs on the long haul. And sit around an ugly airport where you can 1. get delayed 2. lose a bag 3. misconnect 4. run between terminals

OR

You can do what most people do...book the non stop flight and dust off an Agatha Christie from 20 years ago. And they will get a premium over the connecting competition.

   People will put up with the lack of a TV if it gets them there faster.

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 92):
The entire domestic 757 fleet has wifi. The international does not.

Odd, considering that even the 767s have wi-fi.

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 92):
I meant AC outlets. The 757 has regular AC outlets.

All of them, or just the international birds?

Quoting hoons90 (Reply 97):
Best to avoid AA's newest batch of 763s (N342AN-N350AN) as they have those IFE boxes without having any PTVs!

The newest 737s are presenting a problem because the reduced storage space under the aisle seats is causing the overhead bins to fill more quickly than on the 737s without PTVs, leading to more gate checked bags.
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:38 am

Quoting 777stl (Reply 43):
t's a flat bed product similar to UA's,

The AA 75Ls have an angled-flat product whereas the UA 757s have a 180 flat-bed seat.

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 98):
Odd, considering that even the 767s have wi-fi.

If you're referring to the AA 763s, I don't think they actually have them yet (or if they do, they are not usable). The website keeps saying they have wifi, but I have never found any connection on the recently- refurbished 767s (e.g., N348AN, N345AN, etc.)
 
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RE: Official: AA MIA-FRA, JFK-BHX, JFK-EDI

Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:36 am

If I were AA, I would be looking into a MIA-AMS service. It still is a big gap, KLM/NW tried it twice without succes, but unlike KLM/DL, AA has a big advantage having numerous connections out of Miami to the America's. A daily B767 must work out fine. A lot has been written about this subject, but it still remains strange that one of the biggest airports in Europe doesn't have a regular service to Miami, while the other big European hubs have multiple daily flights, some even operated by A380's. Now that AMS becomes an online station (with US flying to AMS), it should be pretty easy to give it a try for them.

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