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Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:27 pm

I've noticed that SU-GBR in Star Alliance livery has had the airline titles on the forward fuselage painted out. It does seem to visit Tel Aviv quite a bit. Are the two connected or is it on lease to another airline?

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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:55 pm

Quoting WinterLight (Thread starter):
Are the two connected

Could be. Their E170 SU-GCX is similarly anonymized


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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:26 pm

Was probably operated by Air Sinai, an EgyptAir subsidiary that exists solely for flights between Egypt and Israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Sinai
 
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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:32 pm

Why cant Egypt Air fly into TLV with full titles?
 
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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:43 pm

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 3):
Why cant Egypt Air fly into TLV with full titles?

I'm pretty sure it can, but doesn't want to.
 
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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:55 pm

There was an interesting article some time ago about these flights.

Hush hush on Egypt's phantom flight to Israel

The lone ghost-white aircraft – with no logo or name displayed – sits in the far corner of the airfield outside Cairo International Airport.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...om-flight-to-israel/article627176/
 
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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:52 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
There was an interesting article some time ago about these flights.

Good read thanks!
 
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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:55 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):

I wonder why they do this?
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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:20 am

Quoting lesfalls (Reply 7):

Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):

I wonder why they do this?

They don't want to make their relationship with Israel too public when flying to other Arab countries.

Similar to what KLM did with KLM Asia with the PRC and the ROC.
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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:55 am

Quoting N104UA (Reply 8):
Similar to what KLM did with KLM Asia with the PRC and the ROC.

The two instances are very different. Unless I'm wrong (which I may be; I'm not as caught up on Middle East politics as I should be), there is nothing really preventing Egypt Air from flying to TLV, but there is a law in the PRC forbidding carriers that serve mainland China from flying to the ROC.
 
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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:04 am

Quoting N415XJ (Reply 9):
but there is a law in the PRC forbidding carriers that serve mainland China from flying to the ROC.

I'm sure that would be unwelcome news to BR, CI, GE, MU, CA, SQ, JL, EK, CX, NH, UA, DL, MH, TG and a great number of airlines other than KL ...

Any restrictions on airlines flying to both the ROC and PRC went the way of the dinosaur a long time ago ...
 
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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:44 am

Quoting N415XJ (Reply 9):
Quoting N104UA (Reply 8):
Similar to what KLM did with KLM Asia with the PRC and the ROC.

The two instances are very different. Unless I'm wrong (which I may be; I'm not as caught up on Middle East politics as I should be), there is nothing really preventing Egypt Air from flying to TLV, but there is a law in the PRC forbidding carriers that serve mainland China from flying to the ROC.

There may not be an actual restriction in any country however I was referring to the use of separate a/c. If an EA plane flies to Iran that was just in Israel and something Israeli found on board the Iranian authorities might not be too happy and cause many headaches for EA. This could also prevent passengers booking tickets from TLV-Iran

However I just looked and Royal Jordanian will let one book a ticket TLV-JED.
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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:54 am

Quoting N104UA (Reply 11):
TLV-Iran
Quoting N104UA (Reply 11):
TLV-JED.

Is there an actual market for those destinations?
 
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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:19 am

Quoting Brenintw (Reply 10):
Any restrictions on airlines flying to both the ROC and PRC went the way of the dinosaur a long time ago ...

Oops! My mistake. Thanks for correcting me. But why, then, does KLM still have a separate KLM Asia division?
 
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RE: Egyptair 777 With Titles Painted Out

Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:29 pm

Quoting N415XJ (Reply 13):
But why, then, does KLM still have a separate KLM Asia division?

The only thing that made any of the "Asia" divisions was the paint on the side of the airplane. KLM simply hasn't repainted, unlike other airlines.
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