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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:05 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 141):
Interestingly there has been no talk of this at work for ages.
Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 141):
TBH the real reason I think is because they might have caught wind of another NZ-US carrier being interested. I have no evidence though, just a hunch.

Thanks, aerorobnz! I trust your lack of "talk about the watercooler" more than an announcement on Weibo - interesting, aye?
It would be nice to see another carrier operate NZ-USA, and if that prompt NZ to up their game, even better. Imagine both happening roughly at the same time: AA flying LAX-AKL and NZ adding AKL-IAH. We would be spoilt for choice, haha!

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:18 am

On a very different topic, I am sad to say that I finally had to cave in, and not use my NZ Airpoints card as first option anymore. By mid-2015 my Gold status will expire, and despite having flown (much) more this year than ever before (and mostly on NZ and Star Alliance carriers), I won't even reach Gold again. With the change in the accrual system, they make it almost impossible to achieve Gold if your company only approves the lowest fares.

The recognition upgrades were nice, but to me lounge access, premium check-in, a second piece of luggage and pre-boarding were the most important benefits (in that order), and thus I will now only use Airpoints if I am in fare buckets that won't allow accrual on partner airlines.

When I lived in Canada, I had UA Gold (premium executive) for a few years, and once I moved to New Zealand, a couple of years later I changed to NZ, and had Gold for quite a few years in the row now. No longer, which is sad for me, since I still love NZ, and support them wherever I can. But they make it increasingly difficult.

I know there are those frequent flyers who argue that people like me shouldn't get Gold in the first place, because we are not very high yielding passengers. While that is true, we are still loyal customers who book as much as possible on NZ, and get pretty much no reward to this. UA and AC are impractble for me now, since I am not guaranteed to travel in North America every year (work brings me all over the world), and thus won't get the minimum legs required on their respective own airline. Thus, I am looking at OZ now, with the additional benefit that you can accrue over 24 months. And/or I might even jump ship (alliance) and increase Oneworld flying via QF and partners. In that vein, the AA LAX-AKL rumour would do me nicely. Decisions decisions....

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:10 am

Quoting zkeoj (Reply 151):

low yielding as I might be considered by some, My ☆G has 14 months to run. I will have to make an effort to requalify next year after lots of flights but lower accrual rate. Still on target for flight 200 in 24 months but expecting a quieter year next year. I realised when I flew QF earlier in the week that I am LA ruby as well, if oneworld gets underway I am already off to a good start there too...haha

I maintain an airpoints account solely for VA flights, grabaseat fare buying from credit card purchases. That's it
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:26 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 152):

Who is your Star alliance FF membership with?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:51 am

NZ175 Dreamliner ZK-NZE is unserviceable now at PER after lightning strike, gee the amount of lightning these last few weeks in WA is not good for air travel, 2 Virgin staff got hit Wed on tarmac at PER as well:

http://aegwaspotters.blogspot.com.au...ew-zealands-b787-9-dreamliner.html
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:28 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 153):
Who is your Star alliance FF membership with?

A3. They just changed their scheme, I previously had until DEC 2016. My online account has been updated to new qualification levels, however my new card has not arrived yet
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:06 pm

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 155):

Looks like NZ and UA have removed all earning rates on their cheapest tickets for A3 FF
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:37 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 156):
Looks like NZ and UA have removed all earning rates on their cheapest tickets for A3 FF

They also just removed S class from their own earnings, which sucks. I have booked ages ago (AKL-LAX/YVR-AKL), and S earned me some Airpoints Dollars (not much, but at least some status points), and now it is set to 0 in my booking. I looked up the earning table, and S is not eligible any longer. Nice, how sneaky they are...not!

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:19 am

Quoting zkeoj (Reply 157):

Any status points earned? I'm surprised they are obviously refusing to accept your current earning rate which was offered to you at the time of booking. That earning rate was offered so they should accept it or give you a part refund as they don't want to accept their part of the deal.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:23 am

Quoting zkeoj (Reply 157):
They also just removed S class from their own earnings, which sucks. I have booked ages ago (AKL-LAX/YVR-AKL), and S earned me some Airpoints Dollars (not much, but at least some status points), and now it is set to 0 in my booking. I looked up the earning table, and S is not eligible any longer. Nice, how sneaky they are...not!

One of my bookings is showing 0 points to be earned as well. Was not the case when I last checked. I thought that was a glitch. Just checked on airnzpoints.co.nz and S class is still accruable.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:45 pm

ZK-NZE returning PER-AKL as NZ6014 this morning about 50 mins behind ZK-NZF PER-AKL as NZ176. Both tracking towards Bass Strait.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:15 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 158):
Any status points earned?

Nope, both set at 0. AND they always advertise as "ALL our flights earn points, except when paid with Airpoints dollars"....

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 159):
Just checked on airnzpoints.co.nz and S class is still accruable.

Nope - just checked it again (AKL-LAX), and S is not showing at all. Only L, Q, T, V, W.

Quoting 777ER (Reply 158):
That earning rate was offered so they should accept it

I agree, and if they won't credit it, I will claim afterwards, but fat chance.

Recently, I had another problem with them: I added my OZ card for a return to LAX, and on the way out it was credited to OZ (and the OZ number was on the boarding pass), but on the return it was credited to NZ. I called immediately after arrival (same day, maybe 2-3 hours after touch down) and after some back and forward, they called back and said: "OK, we can reverse the accrual, but we can't guarantee OZ will credit it, because they see that it has already been credited to NZ. So you run the risk not getting any credit at all." WTF! I am really not impressed by Airpoints at all at the moment, although I had a few good years with them. But too many changes (and not in my favour), and too little customer service and flexibility. Sadly, they lose another frequent flyer. And that coming from me means a lot - I was always very supportive of NZ when others criticised their FF system...

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:19 pm

Just looked on the website, and here is their quote:

"Great news - you can earn Airpoints Dollars™ and Status Points on all Air New Zealand flights (excluding greenlight grabaseat fares via grabaseat.co.nz and fares purchased using Airpoints Dollars)."

And here is their loophole:

"An "Air New Zealand flight" means a flight that is ticketed and operated by Air New Zealand and certain airline partner codeshare flights including across the Tasman with Virgin Australia and between Auckland and Hong Kong with Cathay Pacific - view the full list of Air New Zealand Airline Airpoints partners (www.airnewzealand.co.nz/earning-on-flights). Any applicable third party taxes, levies or surcharges can’t be paid for with Airpoints Dollars, unless the fare is a New Zealand domestic fare."

And funny enough, that second quote is on a different page. My ticket is not NZ *ticketed*, but LH.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:51 am

Quoting zkeoj (Reply 161):
Nope - just checked it again (AKL-LAX), and S is not showing at all. Only L, Q, T, V, W.

Did you go down to Advance Search and select booking class S? I am showing 36 Airpoints and 56 Status Points for S class on AKL-LAX.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:08 am

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 163):
Did you go down to Advance Search

Didn't know that existed, hehe. Thanks heaps. Indeed, it shows accrual there. Weird though that you have to do that, and it is not shown above - what's the point? And it shows even more than it did in my booking. The question now is why did it disappear in my booking, and it's set to zero (as it is in yours)?

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:02 am

Quoting zkeoj (Reply 164):
Didn't know that existed, hehe. Thanks heaps. Indeed, it shows accrual there. Weird though that you have to do that, and it is not shown above - what's the point? And it shows even more than it did in my booking. The question now is why did it disappear in my booking, and it's set to zero (as it is in yours)?

I agree. Why wouldn't they just show all booking classes on the same page? I think they are too scared for people to find out what a lousy programme they have.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:57 am

"Air New Zealand reports 'significant additional improvement in earnings' expected for 2HFY2015"

Air New Zealand reported (26-Nov-2014) it is heading into a period of sustained growth and would experience "a significant additional improvement in earnings" during 2HFY2015. The carrier noted: "The sales momentum continues as the company heads into a period of sustained growth,"

http://centreforaviation.com/news/ai...nings-expected-for-2hfy2015-397646

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:46 pm

Air NZ wins top award - world's best airline:

http://videos.airbus.com/video/02338bb91d0s.html

"'Its performance is extraordinary' - Air NZ named world's best airline again"

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:26 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 167):
Air NZ wins top award - world's best airline:

http://videos.airbus.com/video/02338....html

Wrong link posted in error?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:32 am

Quoting DavidByrne (Reply 168):
Wrong link posted in error?

Absolutely the wrong link - not sure how that happened. Here's the right one:

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/its-...world-s-best-airline-again-6184628

Apologies.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:46 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 167):
Air NZ wins top award - world's best airline:

Now we must wait for the next rater to declare their winner. How many are there in the business of rating scheduled airlines?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:08 am

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 170):
Now we must wait for the next rater to declare their winner. How many are there in the business of rating scheduled airlines?

Sorry, no idea. Generally, I don't track these awards, but I think this one is pretty good.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:42 am

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 170):
Now we must wait for the next rater to declare their winner. How many are there in the business of rating scheduled airlines?

Precisely. Meaningless guff designed for people who don't like to think for themselves or choose who they want to fly for themselves.

I find it all a little ironic given the last 5 international sectors I have flown on NZ in the last year (PER/HNL/SYD/LAX/HKG) have been distinctly average and really there are many, many airlines worldwide currently at the same level of service, even if they don't have fancy and expensive gimmicks such as skycouches.. Of the airlines that fly to NZL most of them are at the same level or higher.

I find it all rather hollow and meaningless, in the same way that an airport like AKL advertises to vote for themselves in airport of the year. Anyone who actually travels more than AKL-OOL or AKL-NAN once a year knows that it doesn't deserve any awards whatsoever, they also know that many awards or no awards, there is no competition to compare against for travellers which makes the whole idea a waste of time.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:54 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 172):

Precisely, I travel a lot and AKL on balance is absolutely one of the worst. CGK is definitely increasingly overcrowded but works far more efficiently than AKL which is a hotch-potch of additions that never meet required capacity.

AKL's only redeeming feature is the fact you can walk out of international arrivals and across to the Novotel. But even then there is no covered walkway.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:03 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 172):
I find it all rather hollow and meaningless, in the same way that an airport like AKL advertises to vote for themselves in airport of the year. Anyone who actually travels more than AKL-OOL or AKL-NAN once a year knows that it doesn't deserve any awards whatsoever, they also know that many awards or no awards, there is no competition to compare against for travellers which makes the whole idea a waste of time.

Whatever your feelings, these awards will still keep rolling along, however meaningless they may be, and from the airline's perspective it's probably better to come first than last, if only for the headlines they generate.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:47 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 174):
Whatever your feelings, these awards will still keep rolling along, however meaningless they may be, and from the airline's perspective it's probably better to come first than last, if only for the headlines they generate.

The one award I think is credible is ATW Airline of the year, because that is the industry voting for the industry based on their own criteria, not like Skytrax which is Industry buying advertisement space, (I also noted Air NZ had a banner across the top of the airlineratings.com site, though naturally I wouldn't suggest they were linked with the accolades.. )

As you say better to come first than last, but they don't issue an award for worst of the year unfortunately. I wish they did... Then we would have a battle to not become the worst airport/airline by region and globally and we might make some real progress across the industry
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:30 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 175):
The one award I think is credible is ATW Airline of the year, because that is the industry voting for the industry based on their own criteria, not like Skytrax which is Industry buying advertisement space, (I also noted Air NZ had a banner across the top of the airlineratings.com site, though naturally I wouldn't suggest they were linked with the accolades..&nbsp Wink

Different markets?

ATW and Airline Ratings seem - to me - to cater to quite different markets, in the same way that Airliners.net and "a certain other airline website" cater to very different groups of people (obviously there's some overlap), each with different priorities.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:32 am

Look like Ewan Willison wants to takle NZ, one more time - http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...for-new-domestic-airline-announced

How many weeks will he last this time?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:50 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 177):

Well considering he isn't planning on going head to head with NZ which he fully blames for the collapse of Kiwi and the fact he says the 1900D was the wrong aircraft this should be interesting!

Lets see if NZ stand by their word of supporting a new airline which takes over any of its abandoned routes
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:52 am

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 129):
OKS did a single service to Australia before doing its first (commercial) long haul later that same day.

I was on the first long haul AKL-LAX. We were delayed about 30 minutes due to a problem (software I think). Maybe they should have tried a couple more trans Tasman first. Once we were off the ground at AKL everything seemed OK, or at least they didn't tell us if there was another problem.

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Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:10 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 178):
Well considering he isn't planning on going head to head with NZ which he fully blames for the collapse of Kiwi and the fact he says the 1900D was the wrong aircraft this should be interesting!

Didn't kiwi air plan to do the same thing, by doing the likes of PMR/HLZ-Aussie etc? then NZ started Freedom to make sure that wasn't going to happen
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:14 am

ZK-NZE is a few hundred kilometres off the south coast of Japan, about to complete the airline's first 787-9 service to Narita.

Also, since delivery is apparently imminent, when can we expect ZK-NZG to touch down in Auckland? I might want to go and watch the arrival.

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 130):
The instances I saw on Flightaware suggested that there was a delay ; that the service was completed in both directions by the scheduled aircraft. No type or rego. changes that I noticed at the time.

Even better!

Quoting aotearoa (Reply 132):
I do love that new airplane smell

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Quoting aotearoa (Reply 132):

Thanks for the explanation.

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 137):
PS I flew in the Y Class for the first time and I was distinctly uncomfortable (as opposed to U Class which is excellent) the width was surprisingly not so bad as the pitch (although the gentleman next to me was quite large). I had the skycouch footrest row which may have had something to do with it. The tray table seemed much smaller than on ET/NH and it was so small I kept dropping serviettes and cutlery off the side, and ultimately I will choose a 763 or A320 flight next time over a 789 shorthaul..

I'm 1.92 m tall and found the pitch to be acceptable. IMO the seat is better than that of the 77Ws (and presumably the refitted 772s as well). I've never paid much attention to the size of the tray table, so it can't have been too much of a problem to me.

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 137):
My real concern was that I was uncomfortable on a flight that was only 2h30min long, not 10h45 or 11h30 as it would be for NRT/PVG.

This is a big worry. Especially if the average passenger finds it worse than a 77W.

Quoting aklrno (Reply 179):
I was on the second flight AKL-LAX. We were delayed about 30 minutes due to a problem (software I think). Maybe they should have tried a couple more trans Tasman first. Once we were off the ground at AKL everything seemed OK, or at least they didn't tell us if there was another problem.

Boeing's fault.    Thankfully a 30 minute delay isn't the end of the world. A look at the AKL departures board tells me that tonight's NZ6 service (ZK-OKQ) has been delayed by an hour. No idea why.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:53 am

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 181):
I'm 1.92 m tall and found the pitch to be acceptable.

TBH I think you are right on the pitch, the more I think of it the more I think the skycouch legrest was to blame for the discomfort in my legs. If I have to fly again I will forgo the "priority" window seats at the front and try on the cabin behind.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:53 am

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 181):

NZG due in to Auckland at 8.00pm Thursday evening.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:47 pm

NZG further delayed,.Now arriving 0500 Friday morning. Not such an inviting arrival time.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:01 pm

Did ZK-OJH end up getting a new coat of paint? I know the livery is still the same (Star Alliance scheme) as it always was.

Quoting aotearoa (Reply 184):
NZG further delayed,.Now arriving 0500 Friday morning. Not such an inviting arrival time.

Delayed again! Now due around 1030-1100 tomorrow. Flight number is NZ6397.
http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ANZ6397
http://www.flightradar24.com/ANZ6397/4f5db53

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:44 am

NZ was supposed to move from T2 to TBIT at LAX this week. Didi it happen? Any problems? I'm due to fly to AKL in a few days and I'm curious to know if I should expect any delays.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:12 am

Due to another A320 being unserviceable, OJH did not end up being repainted. The slot has been moved into next year.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:56 pm

Is NZE back in service , if not , when is it expected?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:20 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 188):
Is NZE back in service , if not , when is it expected?

It flew the airline's inaugural 787-9 service to Tokyo a few days ago and has flown there at least once since.

Anyone know how long pre-service entry work on NZG is expected to take?

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 187):

Ok, thanks.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:31 pm

Quoting zkojq (Reply 189):
It flew the airline's inaugural 787-9 service to Tokyo a few days ago and has flown there at least once since.

Thanks.. FWIW I have drilled deeper into Flightradar24 and found recent flight details by rego. number.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:18 am

Quoting aklrno (Reply 186):
NZ was supposed to move from T2 to TBIT at LAX this week. Didi it happen? Any problems? I'm due to fly to AKL in a few days and I'm curious to know if I should expect any delays.

Yes on Wednesday. First arrival was NZ6, and first departure NZ2 to LHR.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:14 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 191):

Will miss the smaller T2 and the feel the smaller terminal had but the bigger selection of shops in TBIT will be excellent.

Any idea what LAWA will do with the old T2 check-in and lounge? Any photos of the check-in area since NZ moved?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:14 am

Quoting zkojq (Reply 189):
Anyone know how long pre-service entry work on NZG is expected to take?

According to Flightradar24 It appears to be operating NZ119 today, Monday. Presumably this is the beginning of its "shake down". How much longer is a 763 on AKL-PER- AKL. Another week?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:13 am

Air New Zealand will add two more Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner to its fleet.

This will take the number of Dreamliners to 12 by the end of 2018.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:08 am

Quoting flyjetstar (Reply 194):

Air New Zealand will add two more Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner to its fleet.

This will take the number of Dreamliners to 12 by the end of 2018.

Great to hear - I've only had one brief flight in the 787-9 so far ( SYD-AKL) but I was quite impressed by it.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:34 am

Quoting flyjetstar (Reply 194):

Excellent news. This must be the rumoured additional aircraft NZ were sourcing for future USA routes. This also begs the question, what configuration will these additional B789s have? The current one or one more suited to North American ops?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:41 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 196):

Quoting flyjetstar (Reply 194):

Excellent news. This must be the rumoured additional aircraft NZ were sourcing for future USA routes. This also begs the question, what configuration will these additional B789s have? The current one or one more suited to North American ops?


Yes excellent news. Unlikely to have a sub-fleet of just 2 aircraft. So I think at least 4 in a more premium layout if they are going to do that. Remembering that YVR is a possibility for daily 789 but that it doesn't require a lot of premium seats.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:43 am

Virgin Australia's earnings performance on hotly contested routes between Australia and New Zealand has shown signs of an uplift as it benefits from its alliance with Air New Zealand.

Accounts recently filed with regulators across the Tasman show that Virgin's operations in New Zealand posted a $31 million profit in the year to June, compared with a loss of $9 million a year earlier. Revenue rose 3 per cent to $274m.

While providing an insight into its performance on trans-Tasman routes, the bottom-line earnings in New Zealand also reflect changes to Virgin's accounting policies after two of its largest shareholders – Air New Zealand and Singapore Airlines – began equity accounting for the their stakes in the airline. It means the two airlines now record a part of the profits or losses from Virgin in their own accounts


http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/worl...oost-from-air-new-zealand-alliance

First the announcement of NZ ordering two additional B789s and now this excellent news for VAs NZL operations
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 149

Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:57 am

Air China is planning on launching PEK-AKL from October 2015 with A332 3x per week

Air China's New Routes In 2015 (by juukeihc Dec 7 2014 in Civil Aviation)
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