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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:36 pm

739:
N39461 sked to exit 2131/31Dec with WiFi
N69839 ked to exit SEA on ferry to INT 2130/31Dec for WiFi

744:
N121UA sked to exit XAMA 2191/31Dec in Globe paint

763:
N655UA exited MIA 2183/30Dec

Quoting cosyr (Reply 99):
Do we have enough information to add a list of aircraft completed with Power to the master Update list?

I'll post a full update at the beginning of the month.
Power is shown on the fleet page and update page of the Fleet website.

https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/mainline-fleet-tracking
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/fleet-total-upgrades
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:23 pm

Quoting calpsafltskeds (Reply 98):

319:
N828UA exited LCQ 2175/28Dec with slimlines
last unit for slimlines N822UA should be due out of LCQ mod soon

So are all 319/320's in the new blue scheme or some still have the tan slimlines?
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:45 pm

Happy New Year

No idea on how many Airbuses are tan or blue

763:
N649UA entered SFO 12/26/14

764:
N76062 sked to exit HKG 2157/2Jan

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Updated 1/1/15
>>>>PAINT United - Mainline COMPLETED = ALL 691
A319 (55/55) - A320 (97/97)[475 UA Retro]
B73G (36/36) [3720 Star] - B738 (130/130) [3210/3516 Star] - B739 (117/117 [sCO 78, sUA 39] [3436 CO Retro, 3432 eco-skies]
B744 (23/23) Not counting charter aircraft N194UA
B752 (73/73)[sCO 41, sUA 32] [3120 Star]- B753 (sCO 21/21)
B763 (35/35) [653 Star] - B764 (16/16) [3055 Star]
B772 (74/74)[sUA 52, sCO 22][218/794/3017/3021/3022 Star]
B788 (12/12) - B789 (2/2)
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>>>>PAINT United Express - Express COMPLETED = 588,Express REMAINING = 65
CRJ-200 SkyWest (69*/69) COMPLETED (*Up to 20 other Skywest House units may float between AA/AS/DL/UA)
CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet (10/10) 820AS, 827AS-830AS, 832AS-836AS.
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (9/9) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet [ex CO/UA] (126/126) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145 Trans States (17/27) 802HK, 809HK-811HK, 829HK, 832HK-836HK, 838HK, 853HK-857HK. (810/812/833/839/841/842/843/844/845/846/847HK UA Blue, 806HK, Trans States House)
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (104/104) COMPLETED.
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (36/38) 631RW-657RW 855RW-858RW, 861RW-865RW. (859RW UA Blue, 979RP Shuttle America House)
ERJ-175 Mesa (17/17) 88301-89317 NEW DELIVERIES.
ERJ-175 Sky West (20/20) 103SY,105SY-110SY,113SY-114SY,116SY,117SY-122SY,124SY-125SY,127SY-128SY NEW DELIVERIES.
CRJ-700 GoJet (25/25) COMPLETED.
CRJ-700 Mesa (18/20) 501MJ-516LR,518LR,521LR. (519MJ/522LR UA Blue)
CRJ-700 SkyWest (67/70) 701SK-703SK, 705SK-710SK, 712SK-713SK, 715SK-716SK, 718SK-719SK, 724SK, 726SK-728SK, 730SK, 732SK, 738SK, 740SK, 742SK-746SK, 748SK, 750SK-755SK, 758SK, 762SK-768SK, 770SK-774SK, 776SK, 778SK-780SK, 782SK-797SK. (756/758/760/764SK UA Blue)
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
Q400(Dash 8) Republic (30/31) 187WQ-188WQ, 190WQ-191WQ, 195WQ-196WQ, 202WQ-204WQ, 208WQ-209WQ, 213WQ-214WQ, 323NG, 328NG, 332NG-333NG, 336NG, 338NG-339NG, 34NG, 341NQ-342NG, 345NG-346NG, 356NG, 380NG, 502LX, 507LX-508LX. (510LX Republic House)
EMB-120 SkyWest (35*/46) 221SW, 223SW, 229SW, 233SW-235SW, 237SW, 284YV, 290SW-292SW, 294SW-295SW,298SW 562SW-563SW, 568SW - (* includes 18 in SkyWest House Paint plus [566/567/569/578/579/580/582/583/584/585/586SW in UA blue (11]).
ATR 42-320 Cape Air (2/2) COMPLETED.
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PAINT TOTALS: Mainline 691/691=100%, Express 588/635=92.6%, Combined 1279/1326=96.5%

Removed from fleet totals
B1900D Silver Gulfstream and SAAB 340
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INTERIOR/EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS

Airbus new interior bins - COMPLETED - (A319 55/55 N8xxUA) (A320 97/97 N4xxUA)

New Recaro 3520 Slimline Y seats: (A319 8F/42E+/78Y=128) (A320 12F/42E+/96Y=150)
(738 16F/48E+/90Y=166)(739 20F/42E+/117Y=179)
A319: (55/55) (822UA to exit mod)
A320: (97/97)
738: (12/130) 3214,3243,3260,3267,3273,3275,3278,3286-3288,3299,3518
739: (30/117) 3431,3811-3839

New ps Configuration:
752 (15/15=100%)-Completed: 502,505,510,512,518,546,568,587-590,595-598

Interior Refresh on in service sUA 752 aircraft:
Completed:545,547,549

New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies
B772(43/43=100%): ER:204,206,209,216-229[14],782-788[7],791-799 [9], NonER:769,771,773-778[6],780-781
B744 (23/23=100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21=100%) - Complete - B763 (14/14=100%)/[2 Cabin] - Complete
TOTAL INTL(101/101=100%)[exlcudes 9 HI/Dom aircraft]

New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former CO International fleet
B752 (41/41=100%) - B764 (16/16=100%) - B772 (22/22=100%) - 788 (11/11=100%)- 789 (2/2) TOTAL (93/93=100%)

Economy Plus conversion [*Not Counting Two of Four 73G and Eight 738 Micronesia aircraft]
COMPLETED - 789; 788; 772; 764; 753; 752; 739; 73G*. (Micro units 3720,3736)
NOT COMPLETED:
738*- 14 Ships: 3261-3266,3268-3272,3274,3276-3277; other 108 Completed [88.5%]

New Hawaii Configuration for Select 772A aircraft - 32Business*/312Y (*7 across F recliners)
B722A (9/9=100%) Completed: 210-215,768,772,779

DirecTV (Former CO aircraft) [*Not Counting Four 73G and Eight 738 Micronesia aircraft]
73G*- 32/32 [100%]
738*- 108/122 [87.7%] - Not Completed 3261-3266,3268-3272,3274,3276-3277, awaiting installation with mid-lav removal
739 - 64/78 [82.1%] - Not Completed 3465-3478 - to get streaming WiFi
753 - 9/9 [100%] - Excl 12 Hawaiian aircraft with overhead TV (3860-3871) to get streaming WiFi

WiFi Installation
A319 -(55/55): COMPLETED (WiFi Stream - 55/55)
A320 -(97/97): COMPLETED (WiFi stream - 97/97)
73G - (1/36): 3718
738* - (72/130): 3202-3203,3205,3208-3210,3214,3216-3221,3224-3226,3228-3230,3233,3239,3242-3243,3248,3250,3253-3255,3258-3260,3267,3273,3275,3278,3282-3283,3286-3289,3291,3293-3296,3299,3501-3502,3504-3505,3507-3509,3511-3526,3528-3529,3531
739 - (107/117): 3402-3404,3406-3423,3425-3429,3432-3433,3435-3438,3440-3441,3443-3457,3458-3461,3464-3478,3801-3838
744 - (23/23): COMPLETED (WiFi stream - 23/23)
752 - (17/74): All 15 p.s. units completed, 3101,3132
753 - (9/21): 3860-3865,3867,3869-3870 (WiFi Stream - 9/12 Non DTV aircraft)
763 - (1/35): 674
764 - (1/16): 3059
772 - (39/74): 209-217,219,223-226,228-229,768,772-773,784,794,797,3001-3006,3008,3010-3016,3018,3020 (WiFi stream 9/9: 210-215,768,772,779 HI aircraft only)
788 - (1/11): 3913
789 - (2/2): 3950-3951

753 ETOPS: (100%] CO Build (9/9) - TZ Build (12/12)

744 In-Seat Power in Y (14/23): 104-105,116-118,121,171,174,177-180,182,197

Split Scimitar Wingets
73G: (0/36):
738: (42/130): 3259-3260,3267,3273,3275,3277-3278,3282,3287-3289,3291,3293-3296,3299,3501-3502,3504-3505,3507-3509,3511-3517,3519-3523,3525-3526,3528-3529,3531
739: (24/116): 3418,3424,3431,3448,3460,3478,3812,3814-3818,3821-3829,3832/3835-3836
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:40 pm

Quoting calpsafltskeds (Reply 102):
New Recaro 3520 Slimline Y seats: (A319 8F/42E+/78Y=128) (A320 12F/42E+/96Y=150)
(738 16F/48E+/90Y=166)(739 20F/42E+/117Y=179)
A319: (55/55) (822UA to exit mod)
A320: (97/97)
738: (12/130) 3214,3243,3260,3267,3273,3275,3278,3286-3288,3299,3518
739: (30/117) 3431,3811-3839

Minor point of contention, but I believe that the A32X are indeed getting Recaros, but the 73X fleet is getting a BE Aerospace competing product.
The certainly look nothing alike, and I find the seats in the 737 fleet (the new ones, NOT the wretched pmCO Koito park bench bargain specials, of course) to be more comfortable than the new seats in the A319s.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:03 pm

Hearing that 10 767-300s will leave the fleet in Nov 2016.

Also hearing that 747-400s will start exiting the fleet with a couple exiting late this year.

757-222s continue to exit the fleet this year.

GBO 737-800s should start getting SlimLines 1Q15.

Showing one GBO 737-700 has been E Plussed with 3 to go, along with all the GBO 737-800s needing E+.

[Edited 2015-01-02 06:17:35]
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:56 pm

What might 'GBO' refer to ?
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:04 pm

Quoting iahcsr (Reply 105):

Guam Based Operation
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:31 pm

Quoting calpsafltskeds (Reply 102):

744 In-Seat Power in Y (14/23): 104-105,116-118,121,171,174,177-180,182,197

Thank you for adding this. Do you know when they will start adding power to the Airbii?

Quoting calpsafltskeds (Reply 102):
>>>PAINT United Express - Express COMPLETED = 588,Express REMAINING = 65
Quoting calpsafltskeds (Reply 102):
Express 588/635=92.6%

I am confused by the math here? I can only count 25 remaining.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:39 pm

Quoting cosyr (Reply 107):
I am confused by the math here? I can only count 25 remaining.

I think he accidently included all the aircraft that are in house colors for TranStates and SkyWest.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:13 pm

My take on it is that these are the ones which remain in UA blue and should see the new globe scheme. House colors are also excluded.

All SkyWest Emb 120 are excluded as that flying will cease later this year [10 are in UA blue].

ERJ-145 Trans States : 833/839/841/842/843/844/845/846/847HK [9].
(N810HK is in globe and N812HK is in TSA house).
ERJ-170 Shuttle America 859RW [1].
CRJ-700 Mesa 519MJ/522LR [2].
CRJ-700 SkyWest 756/758/760/764SK [4].

TOTAL = 16 aircraft.

Someone may have found more recent evidence in photos to update these aircraft listings.

[Edited 2015-01-02 15:14:23]
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:31 am

No idea on Airbus power and whether it will have power throughout of just in F/Y+ as with the 738. Of course the 738 has DirecTv and power may not be as critical as with the bring your own device on the Airbuses

Regarding GBO, I would suspect the 738s would not get E+ until they get slimlines as it would require a separate FAA STC.

Wonder what the 73G slimline chart will look like. Maybe we can assume E+ would gain the 2 window seats like with the 319 and and extra row in Y behind the exit. That would go from 12/40/66=118 to 12/42/72=126. This might require slimmer lavs behind Y to gain that extra row. If the config went to 8F, maybe 2 rows of Y could be added vs. current config, but it would probably reduce Y+ to 5 rows and some Y would be in front of the exit. Potential 8/30/94=132?

Compared to the 319 at 8/42/78= 128.


Quoting qfatwa (Reply 109):
My take on it is that these are the ones which remain in UA blue and should see the new globe scheme. House colors are also excluded.

All SkyWest Emb 120 are excluded as that flying will cease later this year [10 are in UA blue].

ERJ-145 Trans States : 833/839/841/842/843/844/845/846/847HK [9].
(N810HK is in globe and N812HK is in TSA house).
ERJ-170 Shuttle America 859RW [1].
CRJ-700 Mesa 519MJ/522LR [2].
CRJ-700 SkyWest 756/758/760/764SK [4].

TOTAL = 16 aircraft.

That's what's great about posting these updates - you guys come to the rescue.
My error was that in Paint totals, I show Express 588 of 635, that's 47 . The 47 include the below in UA Blue
9 Trans States 145s
1 Shuttle Amer. 170
2 Mesa 700s
3 SkyWest 700s (error on my post as I show 758SK with and w/o Globe) [756/760/764SK UA Blue]
11 SkyWest 120's ( I show 11 not 10.)
Total 26 in UA Blue

The remaining 21 are in House colors
1 Trans State ERJ145 [N812HK]
1 Shuttle America ERJ170 [N979RP]
1 Republic Q400 [N510LX]
18 SkyWest EMB120 [listed on bottom of UAX fleet page - aircraft that can swap between DL and UA]

Unless I get more info from you guys., I'll update the file for next time.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:46 am

737-700 will not be getting slimline mod....only 738 and the 900 and 900ER
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:20 pm

Quoting cosyr (Reply 107):
Thank you for adding this. Do you know when they will start adding power to the Airbii?

Scheduled first project will be 2Q 2015, Exit rows forward and 1st Class.

Quoting calpsafltskeds (Reply 110):
Regarding GBO, I would suspect the 738s would not get E+ until they get slimlines as it would require a separate FAA STC.

Scheduled to receive SlimLine seats, new Slim LAVs and IFE all at once, should start end of 1Q2015.

Quoting calpsafltskeds (Reply 110):
Wonder what the 73G slimline chart will look like. Maybe we can assume E+ would gain the 2 window seats like with the 319 and and extra row in Y behind the exit. That would go from 12/40/66=118 to 12/42/72=126. This might require slimmer lavs behind Y to gain that extra row. If the config went to 8F, maybe 2 rows of Y could be added vs. current config, but it would probably reduce Y+ to 5 rows and some Y would be in front of the exit. Potential 8/30/94=132?

Do not show any Slim Line Configuration for the 73G/-700.
Looks like it will stay at 12/40/66=118 for now with the 737-700 United Fleet, E+ only.

GBO
Showing 722 has E+ with 118 seats.
734, 735 and 736 show 12/112 with 124 seats.

Intl WiFi/Personal Electronic Devices have been approved in some International Destinations. Notable non-approved, China, India, Philippines and Singapore.

First A-350-1000 scheduled for delivery late 2018.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:44 pm

319:
N822UA exited LCQ 2167/2Jan with limline seats
This completes Airbus 319 and 320 slimline program. All 152 units have slimlines

763:
N646UA sked to enter MCN 2163/3Jan

764:
N66056 sked to enter HKG 2157/2Jan

772:
N221UA sked to exit CWF 2176/4jan with WiFi
N222UA sked to enter CWF 2177/5Jan
N791UA sked to exit CWF 2191/3Jan with WiFi
N796UA sked to enter CWF 2175/4Jan
N74007 sked to exit HKG 180/4Jan, with WiFi

[Edited 2015-01-03 07:58:59]
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:35 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 112):
First A-350-1000 scheduled for delivery late 2018.
Quoting CALTECH (Reply 104):
Also hearing that 747-400s will start exiting the fleet with a couple exiting late this year.

These two statements don't make for a smooth capacity transition; I wonder what the plan is?
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:00 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 104):
Hearing that 10 767-300s will leave the fleet in Nov 2016.

Also hearing that 747-400s will start exiting the fleet with a couple exiting late this year.

I see 10 789s being delivered in 2015, so looks like a one for one swap with 763s. There should be a couple mod lines going this year for the 11 763s to be converted to 2 class.

Would expect any 744s that leave at end of 2015 might be due seasonal reduction and quickly replaced by more 789s in 2016.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:08 pm

738:
N35204 sked to exit MIA 1293/6Jan with WiFi
N33266 exited INT 2130/3Jan with scimitars/WiFi/slimline seats (former mid lav)
N35271 entered INT 2129/3Jan (mid lav)


744:
N127UA sked to enter XMN 2183./6Jan for ISP
N178UA sked to exit XMN 2182/6Jan with ISP/Globe paint
MILESTONE - This completes 744 and 100% of mainline aircraft are now in new livery

752:
N14102 sked to enter MIA 2192/4Jan

763:
N655UA sked to exit VCV 2132/4Jan
MILESTONE - This completes 763 and 100% of mainline aircraft are now in new livery

764:
N68061 sked to enter HKG 2179/5Jan

772:
N221UA exit from CWF delayed as is entry of N222UA into CWF
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:53 pm

Quoting calpsafltskeds (Reply 110):
No idea on Airbus power and whether it will have power throughout of just in F/Y+ as with the 738. Of course the 738 has DirecTv and power may not be as critical as with the bring your own device on the Airbuses

Of course, I'm not in a rush on those. Just tested my Macbook on a 320 last week, and estimated I could watch a little over 6 hours on a charge, long enough for any 320 flight. My Phone could probably do about 3.5-4 hours on top of that.
First Priority should be power on any Widebody with Streaming.

Quoting calpsafltskeds (Reply 110):
Quoting qfatwa (Reply 109):
My take on it is that these are the ones which remain in UA blue and should see the new globe scheme. House colors are also excluded.

All SkyWest Emb 120 are excluded as that flying will cease later this year [10 are in UA blue].

ERJ-145 Trans States : 833/839/841/842/843/844/845/846/847HK [9].
(N810HK is in globe and N812HK is in TSA house).
ERJ-170 Shuttle America 859RW [1].
CRJ-700 Mesa 519MJ/522LR [2].
CRJ-700 SkyWest 756/758/760/764SK [4].

TOTAL = 16 aircraft.

That's what's great about posting these updates - you guys come to the rescue.
My error was that in Paint totals, I show Express 588 of 635, that's 47 . The 47 include the below in UA Blue
9 Trans States 145s
1 Shuttle Amer. 170
2 Mesa 700s
3 SkyWest 700s (error on my post as I show 758SK with and w/o Globe) [756/760/764SK UA Blue]
11 SkyWest 120's ( I show 11 not 10.)
Total 26 in UA Blue

The remaining 21 are in House colors
1 Trans State ERJ145 [N812HK]
1 Shuttle America ERJ170 [N979RP]
1 Republic Q400 [N510LX]
18 SkyWest EMB120 [listed on bottom of UAX fleet page - aircraft that can swap between DL and UA]

Unless I get more info from you guys., I'll update the file for next time.

Thanks for the updates. Getting really close. Should we get a cake or something for the last Express, since we didn't have a party or anything for the last mainline?      
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:01 pm

Nothing wrong with just getting a power pack for use on long haul flights. I got one 2200mah one for about $8 and it will fully charge my iphone 5c. I was wondering why UA doesn't actually sell these at the gate or on the aircraft - after purchased they are good for further use, especially on vacation when you may not be near a power plug or use your phone a lot.

738:
N26215 entered MIA 2177/6jan for WiFi
N36247 entered INT 2120/6Jan for WiFi
N78506 exited INT 2121/6Jan with WiFi/scimitars

763:
N669UA entered CWF 2155/5Jan, assume for WiFi, first 763 into CWF

772:
N777UA sked to enter XMN 2124/7Jan, assume for WiFi, XMN to date has just done 744 In-seat power mods
N37108 sked to exit HKG 180/9Jan, already had WiFi.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:12 pm

Quoting cosyr (Reply 117):
Just tested my Macbook on a 320 last week, and estimated I could watch a little over 6 hours on a charge, long enough for any 320 flight. My Phone could probably do about 3.5-4 hours on top of that.

No clue how you accomplished that, best I could get was 3 maybe 4 hours on a charge on a Macbook Pro with wifi entertainment going, and that's with Integrated graphics forcing, CPU-limit tweaks to save power.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:23 pm

Quoting calpsafltskeds (Reply 118):

That's a great idea. Even if they only offered the Chargers on flights greater than 2 hours. I hope you sent Jeffy an email with that idea.
The most obvious proof for intelligent life in the universe is that they haven't tried to contact us.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:45 pm

Quoting calpsafltskeds (Reply 118):
Nothing wrong with just getting a power pack for use on long haul flights.

You have all sorts of differences from one laptop to another. Same can apply to phones.

Furthermore, on the mac side, Apple has never licensed out the patent to their power plug for building a power back or custom charger, and for whatever reason, it doesn't look like they're about to start.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:02 pm

Quoting S75752 (Reply 121):
Furthermore, on the mac side, Apple has never licensed out the patent to their power plug for building a power back or custom charger, and for whatever reason, it doesn't look like they're about to start.

I use non-authorized plugs and it just shows this is incompatible - it charges the phone, but I don't think you can use them for syncing. If lightning cables weren't so expensive I'd buy them.

sCO fleet hits 50% WiFi installed (180 of 358=50.3% - - - sUA 254 of 333=76.3% - - - Total 434 of 691=62.8%)

738:
N24211 exited MIA 2145/7Jan with WiFi

753:
N75853 sked to exit MCO 1734/10Jan with Intl WiFi

763:
N649UA exited SFO 2094/7Jan, no amenity upgrades
N677UA sked to enter CWF 2148/8Jan for Intl WiFi

772:
N229UA sked to exit CWF 2143/8Jan with Intl WiFi
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:37 pm

Quoting kordcj (Reply 120):
That's a great idea. Even if they only offered the Chargers on flights greater than 2 hours. I hope you sent Jeffy an email with that idea.

Throw it in the duty free cart. Although, after the laptop fires, and then the 787 fires, maybe the FAA is not encouraging the addition of unnecessary Li-Ion batteries, even if they don't stop pax from bringing their own. I've often thought that US airlines miss some revenue opportunities. Selling those, onboard or in flight, along with Noise Cancelling headphones and other travel comforts that people might not have realized they needed until they are at the airport, Why not?
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:53 am

N210UA (Hawaiian/Pacific unit) is showing power for all seats - was in SFO 11/10-17/2014, then ferried to HKG for over a month to get WiFi. Flight Amenities says all rows have power. Probably received power in HKG. Just checked and no other Hawaii 772s have power, but N214UA has been in SFO since 1/6/15. Who knows if it is getting power now.

738:
N73256 sked to exit INT 2184/10Jan with WiFi, slimline seats
N79279 sked to enter INT 2120/10Jan for WiFi
N33292 sked to exit INT 2121/10Jan
N39297 sked to enter INT 2122/10Jan for WiFi

739:
N77430 entered INT 2154/8Jan for WiFi
N69839 exited INT 2155/8Jan with WiF, possible scimitars

744:
N117UA sked to enter XMN 2149/11Jan, aircraft already has power
N118UA sked to exit XMN 2148/11Jan with In-Seat Power

772:
N214UA entered SFO 1/6/15, potentially for ISP
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:34 am

Quoting calpsafltskeds (Reply 122):

I use non-authorized plugs and it just shows this is incompatible - it charges the phone, but I don't think you can use them for syncing. If lightning cables weren't so expensive I'd buy them.

They do license out the Lightning plug, but not the Magsafe adapter for Mac laptops.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 124):
Probably received power in HKG.

Why all the way to XMN and HKG? Does UA have some sort of maintenance base in those places, even though they don't even serve XMN?
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:17 am

Many airlines contract out major maintenance work, especially offshore to save money. The XMN mod is a short ferry from HKG where most swaps are made to scheduled service. HKG has had major configuration changes - 2 class 763 and 764 plus some WiFi and PEK has done heavy maint work. Offshore seems to be only widebodies and GUM fleet.

Domestic work done at many stations - MIA, INT, LCQ, CWF, MCN, GSO, VCV, IND and AMA with work varying from paint, to regular maint, to mods/reconfiguration. Some work is done at UA maint. stations: MCO, SFO, HOU, IAH plus routine maint at hubs. Sorry if I missed any.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:29 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 124):
N214UA entered SFO 1/6/15, potentially for ISP

Do not see her getting ISP. Other MOD work.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:33 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 124):
N118UA sked to exit XMN 2148/11Jan with In-Seat Power

Yes on ISP.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:47 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 126):
The XMN mod is a short ferry from HKG where most swaps are made to scheduled service.

Do the aircraft going to HKG go there through their standard routes, like the 744's from SFO, the 772's from EWR and ORD and perhaps the Hawaii 772's via GUM? Do they carry passengers on that HKG flight?
Seems peculiar that they would do so much work at XMN but don't even serve XMN.

Do they have like a ton of different contractors they go to at each airport?

Just imagine all of the spotting opportunities at some of thos smaller airports like GSO, CWF, and INT.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:18 pm

Quoting S75752 (Reply 129):
Do the aircraft going to HKG go there through their standard routes, like the 744's from SFO, the 772's from EWR and ORD and perhaps the Hawaii 772's via GUM? Do they carry passengers on that HKG flight?

Some are revenue service, many are a ferries with flight numbers in the 21XX range from the mainland. A cost of doing business to save on the work costs. Work at XMN just stared a couple months ago. more extensive work done at airports without service like INT, LCQ, CWF, MCN

772:
N214UA sked to exit SFO 300/12Jan, no ISP
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:15 pm

N859RW has been inactive since the 6th. Has the last tulip E-170 gone in for paint? Flightaware shows its last flight as ORD-OKC.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:15 pm

738:
N77530 exited INT 2166/13Jan with WiFi/SL/scimitars

739:
N37462 entered INT 2165/13Jan for WiFi

772:
N218UA entered SFO 2162/11Jan
N781UA sked to exit SFO 2143/13Jan
N78002 entered HKG 1/9/15, already has WiFi
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:29 am



Quoting N763NW (Reply 131):
N859RW has been inactive since the 6th. Has the last tulip E-170 gone in for paint? Flightaware shows its last flight as ORD-OKC.

RTS today, so we'll see soon...


Photo confirms Mesa CR7 M519LR in new colors: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/16077454977

Regionals remaining in Tulip that are expected to get new paint: 12
1x Mesa CR7 (522LR)
2x SkyWest CR7 (756/760SK)
1x Shuttle America E170 (859RW)
8x Trans States E145 (839/841/842/843/844/845/846/847HK)

[Edited 2015-01-14 17:40:50]
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:54 am

Also, GUM-based 73G N14735 now has E+ per united.com.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:09 am

738:
N26215 exited MIA 2128/14Jan with WiFi
N54241 entered MIA 2129/15Jan for WiFi

744:
N120UA sked to enter XMN 2122/19Jan for ISP
N127UA sked to exit XMN 2121/19Jan with ISP
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:25 am

738:
N36247 sked to exit INT 2151/17Jan with WiFi
N76503 entered INT 2150/17Jan for WiFi/scimitars

752:
N14118 sked to exit MIA 2148/17Jan with Intl WiFi
N41135 entered MIA 2147/17Jan for WiFi
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:32 pm

New 777 version on the way.

77G = 28C/336Y

Conversion of current 777A models. Y class to go to 10-across.   
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:37 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 137):

How many planes? Will there be AVOD?
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:10 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 137):
Conversion of current 777A models. Y class to go to 10-across.

At 364 pax, it beats the Hawaii model by 20 seats! I wonder where these will be used?

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 138):
How many planes? Will there be AVOD?

There are 19 A models and 9 were recently converted to Hawaii so maybe 10?
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:18 pm

There are 9 HA/Pacific birds
That configuration has 4 fewer C seats - a typo???
10 across would be 3-4-3 and with 33 rows you would expect almost 30 more seats, not the 24 shown.
Seems like a hI've expense but may indicate these aircraft will stay for years
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:10 pm

I have been noticing that United Express sometimes operate an E175 between EUG Eugene, Or and SFO San Francisco. I do hope United retires their CRJ200's.
Why endure the nightmare and congestion of LAX when BUR, LGB, ONT & SNA is so much easier to fly in and out of. Same with OAK & SJC when it comes to SFO.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:23 pm

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 138):

How many planes? Will there be AVOD?

With only 28 seats up front I would imagine these are the 9 Hawaii birds, I can't imagine they would create such high density configurations for all the A models. Where are they going to put them all, 364 seats is a lot!
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:55 pm

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 139):
There are 19 A models and 9 were recently converted to Hawaii so maybe 10?

UA is "reported" to be announcing an order for 10 77Ws this week. Coincidence?

Maybe these 10 will all be converted to Hawaii birds and they can swap out the 767s from EWR and IAD as well as possibly some west coast 737 flights.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:10 am

Quoting jetblastdubai (Reply 143):

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 139):
There are 19 A models and 9 were recently converted to Hawaii so maybe 10?

UA is "reported" to be announcing an order for 10 77Ws this week. Coincidence?

Maybe these 10 will all be converted to Hawaii birds and they can swap out the 767s from EWR and IAD as well as possibly some west coast 737 flights.

I've wondered if the 772A could make EWR-HNL and IAD-HNL. Boeing shows a bit less range on the 772A and with high density, it could be weight restricted. Also, IAD has been running seasonally and may not have the demand for the 772A at 364 seats - big bump for EWR-HNL seats as well.

I can't believe UA would take 10 772A international aircraft and move them to Hawaii/Pacific config. There aren't enough flights for those aircraft on Hawaii/GUM. 3 or 4 maybe, but not 10. I know those 772As are getting up in age, but they are quite capable of TATL flying and probably do the trips for slightly less than the 772ER and save on landing fees.

Expect the 777-300ER will be to retire some 744s or for added flying if the economy is up and fuel prices are down.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:32 am

Quoting jetblastdubai (Reply 143):
UA is "reported" to be announcing an order for 10 77Ws this week. Coincidence?

Coincidence yes.

77W order has been simmering in low for a couple years, while the denser cabin refit design has been in process since last fall.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 144):
I can't believe UA would take 10 772A international aircraft and move them to Hawaii/Pacific config. There aren't enough flights for those aircraft on Hawaii/GUM. 3 or 4 maybe, but not 10. I know those 772As are getting up in age, but they are quite capable of TATL flying and probably do the trips for slightly less than the 772ER and save on landing fees.

Why not high density on some TATL markets ?   

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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:45 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 142):
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 144):
I can't believe UA would take 10 772A international aircraft and move them to Hawaii/Pacific config. There aren't enough flights for those aircraft on Hawaii/GUM. 3 or 4 maybe, but not 10. I know those 772As are getting up in age, but they are quite capable of TATL flying and probably do the trips for slightly less than the 772ER and save on landing fees.

To take 10 772A's that have recently been retrofitted and making them into Hawaii birds would be backwards -- they simply don't have the backfill of aircraft to handle the capacity if they made such a move. And if they did kiss quite a few international routes out of IAD & ORD goodbye.

My only guess is maybe UA realized the 9 'Hawaii 777s' were a flop of a retrofit (old J recliners, unreliable wifi & streaming, no power) and decided to cram move seats in Y and redo the J class section to lie flat and hopefully equip them with AVOD.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:52 am

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 146):

I have to agree. I think they will refit the current Hawaii birds and perhaps add a few extra if the 10 77W rumor turns out to happen. These birds may get the first new business seat and pave the way for other retrofits. The sCO 777 could probably go in for upgrade in a year or so. As odd as it sounds having just finished some of the 777 upgrades, other planes are coming up on 7-8 years since last being retrofit.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:54 am

Quoting 815Oceanic (Reply 147):

Make sense to me. The sCO are heavliy used from a utilization standpoint so I'm sure the interiors got worn down fast over the last 7 to 8 years.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 22

Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:57 am

It's possible the 10 772As Internationals and 9 Hawaiian/Pacific could be retrofitted. 28 Business seats like those in the ITPE configuration looks like they would fit before door 2 on the 772A aircraft with a set of four missing in the middle section as there is an extra galley present.

With 10 across in the back, it appears there are way more rows to pick up just 24 seats in Y, but some rows won't take 10 across due to exits and lavs. However, to provide a premium Business product, maybe more galley space is needed and would cut into the 10 across gain.

That could create 19 high density 772A with true premium product and that could be used to heavy leisure coach markets TATL and South America, GUM-HNL/NRT and HNL-NRT as well as HNL-DEN/LAX/SFO. This configuration could also be used on a HNL-AKL round trip that would take just one aircraft and connect both directions into the 772A hub at HNL. A 19 unit common 772A fleet would be easier to maintain and schedule.

752:
N14102 exited MIA 2164/19Jan with Intl WiFi
N33103 entered MIA 2163/19Jan for wifi

772:
N78017 appears sked into HKG 179/21Jan for WiFi

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