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Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:48 am

Please continue here.

Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 6 (by EK413 Jun 17 2014 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:51 pm

It is sad about SAS not donating the MD-80 to the SAS museum... It is very short-sighted and purely based on a short-term need for cash. Unfortunately a metaphor for how the airline is run in general.

McDonnell Douglas is a huge part of SAS' history. They operated the following:

Douglas DC-3 Dakota
Douglas DC-4 Skymaster
Douglas DC-6 Cloudmaster
Douglas DC-6B Cloudmaster
Douglas DC7C Seven Seas
Douglas DC-8-33
Douglas DC-8-55
Douglas DC-8-62
Douglas DC-8-63
Douglas DC-9-32
Douglas DC-9-51
McDonnell Douglas DC-10-30
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-21
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-33F
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-41
McDonnell Douglas MD-81
McDonnell Douglas MD-82
McDonnell Douglas MD-83
McDonnell Douglas MD-87
McDonnell Douglas MD-90-30

[Edited 2014-11-18 05:08:39]
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:01 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 1):
McDonald Douglas

McDonnell Douglas
    

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 1):
Douglas DC-3 Dakota
Douglas DC-4 Skymaster
Douglas DC-6 Cloudmaster
Douglas DC-6B Cloudmaster
Douglas DC7C Seven Seas
Douglas DC-8-33
Douglas DC-8-55
Douglas DC-8-62
Douglas DC-8-63
Douglas DC-9-32
Douglas DC-9-51
McDonnell Douglas DC-10-30
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-21
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-33F
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-41
McDonnell Douglas MD-81
McDonnell Douglas MD-82
McDonnell Douglas MD-83
McDonnell Douglas MD-87
McDonnell Douglas MD-90-30

Nice!

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What s the status of SAS Finland (Blue1)? Is it correct that SAS wants to sell Blue1?
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:50 pm

Quoting MD80 (Reply 2):
What s the status of SAS Finland (Blue1)? Is it correct that SAS wants to sell Blue1?

Is Blue1 even operated as a separate company nowadays? I dont think there is anything to sell.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:39 am

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 1):

It is sad about SAS not donating the MD-80 to the SAS museum... It is very short-sighted and purely based on a short-term need for cash. Unfortunately a metaphor for how the airline is run in general.

McDonnell Douglas is a huge part of SAS' history. They operated the following:

Douglas DC-3 Dakota
Douglas DC-4 Skymaster
Douglas DC-6 Cloudmaster
Douglas DC-6B Cloudmaster
Douglas DC7C Seven Seas
Douglas DC-8-33
Douglas DC-8-55
Douglas DC-8-62
Douglas DC-8-63
Douglas DC-9-32
Douglas DC-9-51
McDonnell Douglas DC-10-30
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-21
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-33F
McDonnell Douglas DC-9-41
McDonnell Douglas MD-81
McDonnell Douglas MD-82
McDonnell Douglas MD-83
McDonnell Douglas MD-87
McDonnell Douglas MD-90-30

I'd like to add the McDonnell Douglas MD-95/Boeing 717-200.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 3):
Is Blue1 even operated as a separate company nowadays? I dont think there is anything to sell.

Blue1 is a fully owned subsidiary of SAS Group. Blue1 is basically SAS Finland, but their MD-95s are used all over the network.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:03 pm

"SAS signs agreement for regular bio-fuel powered flights"

Quoting SAS press release:

SAS has, along with the Lufthansa Group and KLM, signed an agreement with
Statoil Aviation for a regular supply of bio-fuel at Oslo Airport. SAS was first off the ground in
Norway and from Stockholm Arlanda in Sweden with a bio-fuel mix around a week ago and
this agreement shows the airline takes its corporate social responsibility seriously in
reducing its green house gas emissions.

Via an agreement signed with Avinor and the above named airlines, Statoil Aviation is
to supply 2.5 million liters of bio-fuel to the refueling facility at Oslo Airport. With a 50%
bio-fuel mix, this will fuel around 3,000 flights between Oslo and Bergen and make OSL
the first major airport in the world to offer a regular supply of bio-fuel as part of daily
operations from March 2015.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:19 pm

From the same release

SAS aims to use synthetic fuel on an increasingly regular basis in the next few years, and expects bio-fuel to become competitive with the fossil fuel alternative. For this to happen, a general environment and tax policy will be required from governments, based on aviation being a form of internationally competitive public transport with thin profit margins.

SAS must have some idea that the Norwegian government is going to do something to get the price down.
As biofuel is so expensive, it seems a big investment for an airline with little money.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:27 pm

Wideroe and Eastern Airways will begin codesharing on NCL-SVG, ABZ-SVG and ABZ-BGO.

SAS will upgrade LBA-CPH, and 5 x weekly ABZ-CPH to A319s next summer. NCL-CPH upgraded to CRJ-900 as well.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:57 pm

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 6):
SAS must have some idea that the Norwegian government is going to do something to get the price down.
As biofuel is so expensive, it seems a big investment for an airline with little money.

The former socialist/green government put similar taxes on biofuel as on fossil fuels, bankrupting several start-up companies within the biofuel industry and effectively squashing any development. Today's lib/con government has not made any changes on that policy for the 2015 budget. The only issue now is budget talks with the The Liberal Party (Venstre) who are trying to put even more taxes on air travel in Norway in general, but are suggesting a 25% discount on landing fees for aircraft flying on biofuel mix.

[Edited 2014-11-19 08:03:11]
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:08 pm

My brother bought a Premium ticket with Norwegian round trip OSL-CPH-FLL, and the flight today was operated by a LOT 787. He was very happy of course, as the LOT Business product is much nicer than the Norwegian Premium product.

So what's going on here? Are LOT and Norwegian cooperating on TATL flights?

The LOT flight was on the CPH-FLL sector.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:07 pm

Quoting JetBuddy (Reply 9):

So what's going on here? Are LOT and Norwegian cooperating on TATL flights?

Doesn't LOT have some "spare" 787's? Perhaps Norwegian leased one of those at a better
price then one of the aircrafts that the have leased before?
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:47 pm

Quoting JetBuddy (Reply 9):
My brother bought a Premium ticket with Norwegian round trip OSL-CPH-FLL, and the flight today was operated by a LOT 787. He was very happy of course, as the LOT Business product is much nicer than the Norwegian Premium product.

So what's going on here? Are LOT and Norwegian cooperating on TATL flights?

The LOT flight was on the CPH-FLL sector.

Norwegian is leasing a 787 from LOT 27/10 to 30/11. From 30/11 a A330 from HiFly will replace the LOT aircraft
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:54 pm

The first SAS A330-300 to be re-configured with the brand new interior, LN-RKN, was ferried CPH-ZRH this evening. In addition to new seats throughout the plane, it will also get internet installed and have a heavy maintenance check.

It will not be back in traffic untill January, so it is a rather big job, and it probably takes some extra time as it is the first aircraft to get this configuration
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:24 am

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 10):
Doesn't LOT have some "spare" 787's? Perhaps Norwegian leased one of those at a better
price then one of the aircrafts that the have leased before?
Quoting someone83 (Reply 11):
Norwegian is leasing a 787 from LOT 27/10 to 30/11. From 30/11 a A330 from HiFly will replace the LOT aircraft

Must be a wetlease then? He said the flight attendants were Polish chicks.

The Norwegian 787s have been performing a lot better lately AFAIK, so why are they still wet-leasing widebodies?

Quoting someone83 (Reply 12):
The first SAS A330-300 to be re-configured with the brand new interior, LN-RKN, was ferried CPH-ZRH this evening. In addition to new seats throughout the plane, it will also get internet installed and have a heavy maintenance check.

It will not be back in traffic untill January, so it is a rather big job, and it probably takes some extra time as it is the first aircraft to get this configuration

For sure, do you know if it's a C-check or a D-check? The new cabin interior product looks absolutely stunning in my opinion. Very Scandinavian.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:40 am

Quoting JetBuddy (Reply 4):
Blue1 is a fully owned subsidiary of SAS Group. Blue1 is basically SAS Finland, but their MD-95s are used all over the network.

What are the advantages for SAS to operate a shrinking fleet of MD-95s ehh... Boeing 717s? What are their plans? The original fleet called for the ops of nine Boeing 717s but the reduction to only five aircraft is not a sign of success for me. What are the reasons for this reduction? The most obvious one is lack of demand etc. but this is probably a too easy answer.

I would have expected growth at SAS Finland (with the aim to schedule flights all over the network) and a replacement of the Boeing 717 with a more common aircraft within the SAS Group in the interest of more flexibility and easier maintenance.

Thanks for additional information!
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:52 am

Quoting gkirk (Reply 7):
SAS will upgrade LBA-CPH, and 5 x weekly ABZ-CPH to A319s next summer. NCL-CPH upgraded to CRJ-900 as well.

Not anymore. They will cease CPH-LBA and CPH-ABZ is now showing 11 out of 11 weekly with CRJ-900
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:02 pm

Qatar Airways to increase the capacity to Scandinavian from the start of S15:

CPH from 7x to 11x weekly
ARN from 7x to 10x weekly
OSL stays at 7x weekly

Read more: http://cphtraveller.dk/nyheder/qatar...enhavn-til-11-ugentlige-flyvninger
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:22 pm

Quoting MD80 (Reply 14):
What are the advantages for SAS to operate a shrinking fleet of MD-95s ehh... Boeing 717s? What are their plans? The original fleet called for the ops of nine Boeing 717s but the reduction to only five aircraft is not a sign of success for me. What are the reasons for this reduction? The most obvious one is lack of demand etc. but this is probably a too easy answer.

I would have expected growth at SAS Finland (with the aim to schedule flights all over the network) and a replacement of the Boeing 717 with a more common aircraft within the SAS Group in the interest of more flexibility and easier maintenance.

Thanks for additional information!

The reduction in the B717 fleet size is because the capacity is not needed. Since Blue1 now are flying all over Scandinavia (but actually not domestically in Finland), the B717 seems to be the oddball again. Blue1 used to fly SAS's MD-90s before they aquired the B717.. so this is not the first time they're facing reductions. I'm wondering what'll be left of Blue1 in the end.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:29 pm

Good news, ARN (Swedavia) have won anppeal in "mark & miljööverdomstolen" regarding
the use of runway 3 (01R/19L). A ruling in a lower court last year meant that the traffic
to/from 01R had to make a curved approach around the municipality of Upplands Väsby
since a straight approach would have been banned from January 1st 2018.
due to noise complaints from the residence there.

Swedavia appealed because they considered it a to large restriction for air traffic
to/from ARN and "mark & miljööverdomstolen ruled today in favour of ARN/Swedavia-

The ruling:
http://www.markochmiljooverdomstolen...-i-mal-rorande-Arlanda-flygplats-/

An article about it: http://www.di.se/artiklar/2014/11/21/arlanda-far-ratt/

Today's ruling can be appealed to the supreme court (Högsta domstolen / HD) but HD far from
always accept to pick up a case that has been appealed.

[Edited 2014-11-21 04:33:43]
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:53 am

Great improvement on Danish domestic route KRP-CPH:

Next March Norwegian quits flying KRP-CPH. At the same time Danish Air Transport (DAT) takes up the route.

DAT will increase frequency from 5 to 6, put in MD-80 on departures which fit with SAS morning and afternoon intereuropean waves at CPH, ATR-72 on the rest.

And equally important, DAT has made full interline agreement with SAS:
- ticket cooperation
- baggage transit
- mutual assistance at irregular ops, including involuntary overnight stay
- unattended minors, also in transit.

KRP-CPH was one of the routes which Norwegian used to kill off Cimber a couple of years ago by selling thousands of tickets at DKK 1 (17 US cent).

Since the death of Cimber, Norwegian has been the only operator on the route, and it has gone steeply downhill ever since.

In the beginning they put in only a couple of flights on very old 733s. When it didn't work, then they wet leased ATR capacity from DAT when they happened to have planes available. But flights were never really adjusted according to demand.

The airport owners were seriously talking about closing down KRP altogether, since more and more potential pax fled to alternative, rather distant airports, AAL or BLL, or train, due to the poor Norwegian service.

Had it not been for wild protests from large export companies, which have bizjets based there, then KRP might have become an all military air base again, as it was when I was serving there almost fifty years ago.

It will all mean a minor, but welcome boost for SAS and CPH. On the other hand it will mean a minor pause for mainly KL and AF, who have enjoyed fantastic growth on their routes from BLL and AAL to AMS (and CDG) due to poor domestic service in Denmark.

Living in the western part of Denmark, AMS and CDG are often a lot more convenient intereuropean hubs than CPH. For a lot of people living in the "mid-west", this will change to the better next March. The good old days of Cimber service will almost be back again.

[Edited 2014-11-21 18:04:40]
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:02 am

Quoting prebennorholm (Reply 19):
DAT will increase frequency from 5 to 6, put in MD-80 on departures which fit with SAS morning and afternoon intereuropean waves at CPH, ATR-72 on the rest.

Are both MD-80s (the single MD-83 and single MD-87) still part of DAT´s fleet or just the MD-83?

Thank you.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:44 am

Quoting MD80 (Reply 20):
Are both MD-80s (the single MD-83 and single MD-87) still part of DAT´s fleet or just the MD-83?

Don't know. And the DAT web site isn't very detailed about their fleet. It tells about plane types, but no numbers, and it may not be properly updated.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:46 pm

DAT have, or are about to, take delivery of their first A320. Anyone knows how many they have signed for, and if they'll replace or augment the MD80(s)?
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:50 am

CSA is staring PRG-OSL and PRG-BLL-OSL next summer

Prague – Billund – Oslo eff 30MAR15 3 weekly
OK500 PRG1910 – 2120BLL2145 – 2300OSL AT5 135
OK501 OSL0600 – 0715BLL0735 – 0945PRG AT5 246

Prague – Oslo eff 30MAR15 4 weekly
OK444 PRG1155 – 1355OSL 319 26
OK444 PRG1640 – 1840OSL 319 15

OK445 OSL1435 – 1640PRG 319 26
OK445 OSL1920 – 2125PRG 319 15
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:22 am

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 22):
and if they'll replace or augment the MD80(s)?

My only information is that DAT aims to replace their MD-80s with the A320s. The strange thing is that the single MD-87 was repainted and ferried back to Denmark after reports suggested that the MD-87 would be retired permanently from service.

DAT took delivery of their first Airbus A320 in June 2014. This aircraft was formerly operated by Myanmar Airways International.

Regards
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:36 am

Does DAT still have their Do328s?
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:48 am

Quoting someone83 (Reply 12):
The first SAS A330-300 to be re-configured with
the brand new interior, LN-RKN, was ferried CPH-ZRH this evening. In addition
to new seats throughout the plane, it will also get internet installed and have a
heavy maintenance check.

It will not be back in traffic untill January, so it is a rather big job, and it probably
takes some extra time as it is the first aircraft to get this configuration

This plane have now started it's own twitter account:

Quoting SAS Viking:

Hi guys! SAS Viking here. Follow me, I promise it´s gonna be fun. And Yes I´m a
tweeting plane, Its no big deal   #FirstTweet #sasnewcabin


Quoting SAS Viking:

Oh, l almost forgot to tell you: I´m getting a total makeover! I´ll be the first plane
with the new upgraded cabin. Stay tuned! #sasnewcabin
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:23 pm

SAS has also posted a few pics of the refurbishment on Facebook today

http://forum.flyprat.no/showpost.php?p=969837

The old cabin has been removed and they have started removing the paint on the engine nacelles
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:06 pm

Quoting someone83 (Reply 27):
they have started removing the paint on the engine nacelles

Why though? Is SK going to reveal a livery as well?  
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:13 pm

Quoting Basefly (Reply 28):
Why though? Is SK going to reveal a livery as well?

Paint is removed during Heavy maintenance. They replace the old paint with fresh new. If they should paint over the old layer the plane will ultimately be to Heavy.
 
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Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:58 pm

Quoting Navigator (Reply 29):
Paint is removed during Heavy maintenance. They replace the old paint with fresh new. If they should paint over the old layer the plane will ultimately be to Heavy.

It is also removed to easier check for corrosion etc.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:50 am

SAS increases the number of wetleased ATR. This time with FlyBe that will provide 4 ATR-72-600, 2 from October 2015 and two from Spring 2016. This comes in addition to the 8 JetTime ATRs operated by JetTime on behalf of SAS

Quote:
SAS signs agreement with Flybe



From the winter timetable 2015/2016 a new SAS partner will operate on part of SAS’ short haul routes. Four brand new ATR 72-600 from Flybe will assist SAS’ own production on routes and frequencies from Arlanda, Stockholm, where there is a need for smaller aircraft to service customer demand.



In recent years SAS has created a more efficient and flexible production platform by working with external wet lease operators. The partners provide their services with smaller aircraft on popular SAS routes where there is a need for fewer seats. In autumn 2015, SAS welcomes Flybe as a new partner. The six years agreement follows the termination of an agreement with another operator.

Chief Operating Officer Flemming Jensen, SAS, said: “It’s always a great pleasure to take in brand new aircraft in our traffic. We already have very good experiences with the ATR turboprop, and our customers can look forward to high quality and a pleasant and joyful journey with Flybe for SAS. This agreement means that our production can become even more efficient and we also streamline our fleet with respect to the type of aircraft external carriers fly for us.”

Saad Hammad, Flybe’s Chief Executive Officer, said: “We are delighted to announce this agreement with SAS which provides a turn-key regional capacity solution. This white label agreement with Scandinavia’s largest carrier confirms Flybe’s twin-engine growth strategy and we are excited about its long-term potential. We look forward to starting operations in Scandinavia next year.”

Flybe will operate four new ATR72-600 aircraft with 70 seats and with initial operations for the first two aircraft due to start in October 2015. By March 2016 the next two aircraft will be in operation.

The scope of the agreement can be extended with an additional four aircraft to be brought into service as required. The aircraft, which are fully SAS decorated, will operate on routes such as Stockholm-Visby, Stockholm-Kalmar and Stockholm-Turku.

For further information please contact
SAS Press Office +45 3232 3135

Another 737-800 was delivered to Norwegian yesterday LN5177 LN-NIH
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:15 pm

Quoting someone83 (Reply 27):
SAS has also posted a few pics of the refurbishment
on Facebook today

http://forum.flyprat.no/showpost.php?p=969837

The old cabin has been removed and they have started removing the paint on the
engine nacelles

An article from businessclass.se:

http://www.businessclass.se/sas-a330-renovering-zurich-borjar-twittra/
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:03 pm

Quoting someone83 (Reply 27):
SAS has also posted a few pics of the refurbishment on Facebook today

http://forum.flyprat.no/showpost.php?p=969837

The old cabin has been removed and they have started removing the paint on the engine nacelles

And a Norwegian article:

http://e24.no/boers-og-finans/sas-ab...et-har-egen-twitter-konto/23343703
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:15 am

Seems SAS are happy with the results on the SVG-IAH route.

Expecting it to be profitable by January or February, which is earlier than expected.

In Norwegian: http://www.aftenposten.no/okonomi/SA...verskudd-pa-rekordtid-7800010.html

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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:29 am

SAS and Etihad has entered into a code-share agreement, including frequent flyer program agreement on several routes between Europe and Abu Dhabi and Europe-Scandinavia

Quote:

SAS and Etihad Airways Announce Codeshare Plans


•Enhanced options for air travellers flying between Scandinavia and the UAE
•Agreement deepens Etihad Airways’ partnerships with European carriers
•Agreement expands SAS partnerships with Middle Eastern carriers
•Frequent Flyer agreement to benefit airlines’ programs and their members



SAS, Scandinavia’s leading airline, and Etihad Airways, the national airline of the United Arab Emirates, are set to begin codeshare operations and provide customers with enhanced travel options between Scandinavia and the UAE.

The agreement, which is subject to regulatory approval, will strengthen both carriers by enabling them to offer greater connectivity to and from a number of key European cities. SAS is Etihad Airways’ 47th airline partnership globally and its 22nd in Europe. For SAS, Etihad is the 23rd codeshare partner and the third with strong presence in the Middle East.

Both airlines will also develop and sign a Frequent Flyer agreement, which will benefit the members of Etihad Airways’ Etihad Guest and SAS’ EuroBonus loyalty programs.

Kevin Knight, Etihad Airways’ Chief Strategy Officer, said: “This codeshare agreement with SAS will open up access to Stockholm, Oslo and Copenhagen, as well as a number of important secondary cities across Scandinavia, greatly enhancing travel options and connections for air travellers and deepening our ties with Europe and European carriers.”

“Partnerships like this one with SAS are central to Etihad Airways’ strategy and we look forward to placing the SK code on our flights to and from Abu Dhabi, and welcoming their passengers aboard our aircraft.”

The deal will see SAS place its SK code on Etihad Airways’ flights between Abu Dhabi and Brussels, Düsseldorf, Frankfurt, Rome, Milan, Zurich, Geneva and London Heathrow.

In turn, Etihad Airways will place its EY code on SAS-operated flights from these European destinations, excluding Brussels, onto SAS’ hubs in Copenhagen, Oslo, and Stockholm.

The EY code will also be placed on flights beyond Copenhagen to Billund and Ålesund; beyond Oslo to Ålesund, Kristiansand, Trondheim, and Stavanger; and beyond Stockholm to Umeå, Sundsvall, and Östersund.

Eivind Roald, SAS Executive Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer, said: “We are very pleased to announce this new codeshare cooperation with Etihad Airways and look forward to increase traffic between Scandinavia and the Middle East.”

“Tourism and trade between our regions have increased over the years, and we are happy offer the benefits of both SAS and Etihad Airways to our travelers. From seven of SAS’ main European airports we can offer a high quality product with Etihad Airways to and from Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates.”

“We also look forward to welcoming passengers from Etihad Airways onboard giving them the true and appreciated SAS experience delivered the Scandinavian way where we focus on making life easier for frequent travelers.”

Notes: The on-sale date for the codeshare is Monday 8 December 2014 and the first travel date is Monday 19 January 2015.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:48 am

Quoting JetBuddy (Reply 8):
The only issue now is budget talks with the The Liberal Party (Venstre) who are trying to put even more taxes on air travel in Norway in general, but are suggesting a 25% discount on landing fees for aircraft flying on biofuel mix.

Politicians in Norway especially thoise on the left don't really give a crap about the Norwegian people. Putting up taxes on air travel when in many parts of Norway these isn't a viable alternative is madness.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:34 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 36):
Politicians in Norway especially thoise on the left don't really give a crap about the Norwegian people. Putting up taxes on air travel when in many parts of Norway these isn't a viable alternative is madness.

I agree 100% my friend.

Quoting someone83 (Reply 35):

SAS and Etihad has entered into a code-share agreement, including frequent flyer program agreement on several routes between Europe and Abu Dhabi and Europe-Scandinavia

Good news! Etihad has codeshare agreements with many European airlines. Their flights to and from Oslo only have about 30% load factor as of now though. Hopefully this will increase when the codeshare with SAS is approved.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:33 am

Quoting JetBuddy (Reply 37):
! Etihad has codeshare agreements with many European airlines. Their flights to and from Oslo only have about 30% load factor as of now though. Hopefully this will increase when the codeshare with SAS is approved.

Etihad doesn't fly to OSL or any of the other Scandinavian cities

Guess you mean Emirates, and while their load factors in the beginning has apperently been around 40%, they also started in the low season and claiming forward bookings seesm to be improving
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:03 pm

And while Venstre is at it why don't they just cut all the PSO routes too. Idiots. I hope Erna tries to kill these taxes but rare is the politician who actually WANTS to cut taxes. Otherwise it was just all talk in 2013. I'm still waiting for the stores to open on Sunday (I know some have in little towns) in Oslo.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:17 pm

Quoting someone83 (Reply 38):
Etihad doesn't fly to OSL or any of the other Scandinavian cities

Guess you mean Emirates, and while their load factors in the beginning has apperently been around 40%, they also started in the low season and claiming forward bookings seesm to be improving

That's how it goes when you take a commentary in a Norwegian newsarticle as facts. I should know better.

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 39):

And while Venstre is at it why don't they just cut all the PSO routes too. Idiots. I hope Erna tries to kill these taxes but rare is the politician who actually WANTS to cut taxes. Otherwise it was just all talk in 2013. I'm still waiting for the stores to open on Sunday (I know some have in little towns) in Oslo.

Yeah, unfortunately the Government needs the help of Venstre or KrF. Or a lot of those things would have happened already. But this is quite off-topic.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:30 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 39):
I'm still waiting for the stores to open on Sunday (I know some have in little towns) in Oslo.

There is a so called Tourist town Bud about 60km from where I live, where stores are open on Sunday, the only tourists they get are a few German and Dutch camping wagons a day and as we all know in Norway all they buy here is diesel, milk and bread, everything else they bring with them.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:48 pm

Quoting someone83 (Reply 35):
SAS and Etihad has entered into a code-share agreement, including frequent flyer program agreement on several routes between Europe and Abu Dhabi and Europe-Scandinavia

Is this the beginning of EY buying 49% of SK? Alitalia v 2.0 ?   
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:54 pm

Quoting hilram (Reply 42):
Is this the beginning of EY buying 49% of SK? Alitalia v 2.0 ?

I hope not.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:06 am

Next year, SAS will begin receiving the new A330-300s they have on order, to replace some A340-300s. Does anyone know which A340's are coming off lease and leaves the fleet now?
Will the planes be replaced one for one? Or will new planes bring an increase to the fleet?
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:51 am

They will keep 3 or 4 of their A340s, so the new aircraft will be an increase to their fleet. But I'm not sure when the first A340s will be phased out.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:01 pm

The new SK A330 seats:

Quoting SAS Viking:

SAS Viking ‏@SAS_Viking 48s48 seconds ago

Getting the new seats will be the best Christmas gift ever! #sasnewcabin
#cantwait #SASbusiness


 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:03 pm

Quoting prebennorholm (Reply 19):

The airport owners were seriously talking about closing down KRP altogether, since more and more potential pax fled to alternative, rather distant airports, AAL or BLL, or train, due to the poor Norwegian service.

Interesting. I wonder whether KRP will survive once the "Timemodellen" is implemented and the motorway to Herning is complete.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:18 pm

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 46):
The new SK A330 seats:

Very nice! I didn't mind their previous Business Class seats with massage function either.. but they were getting worn out. This is definately a step up.
 
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RE: Scandinavia Aviation 2014 - Part 7

Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:23 pm

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 46):
The new SK A330 seats:

Does anybody have pictures and info of the new Economy seats? Pitch?

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