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KLM New Livery

Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:35 pm

The previous thread has been archived, but I just came across this picture on Twitter:


Picture is not mine, just found it online

Apparently the mainline aircraft get the new livery too, I thought only the E190, F70 and 787 would get it first...
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:47 pm

The "Royal Dutch Airlines" titles look out of place.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:56 pm

I like it... and I'm glad they're rolling it out to all fleets.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:59 pm

IMHO it looks great! Sometimes the most simple tweaks can make a bit of a difference.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:29 pm

I think it looks better on the 737 than the Fokker. Which isn't saying much because I thought it was hideous on the little fuc..., I mean Fokker. This is a good sign that hopefully the rest of the fleet would look good too.
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RE: KLM New Livery

Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:30 pm

When was the last time Royal Dutch Airlines title was used this way? glad its emphasised I like the revised livery, BTW KLM and Saudia livery are based on the same format as Continental/United, now KLM is different from the two.

[Edited 2014-11-27 11:40:05]
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:54 pm

I'm not sure I like it. I mean how are the pilots going to see where they are going?  


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RE: KLM New Livery

Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:57 pm

Well, in the previous thread someone said the 737s would get the new livery as well. Was news to me, but he was right. IIRC, he also said the A330's, 777s and 747s wouldn't get the new livery. But I'm curious whether the whole fleet will get the 'Royal Dutch Airlines' title as prominently. Will be interesting to see.
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RE: KLM New Livery

Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:12 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 6):
I'm not sure I like it. I mean how are the pilots going to see where they are going?  

due to increasing labor costs, these planes will be remotely flown by couch potatoes in Sri Lanka. you will also notice that with all the mandatory IFE entitlements the passenger windows were removed as a weight and maintenance saving..
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:24 pm

At least it is not a billboard livery. IMHO it is unfortunate that more carriers are adopting them.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:44 pm

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 7):

Ah check, must have missed that then. i really thought it was only KLC and then 787...  Wow!

Will see what happens with the rest indeed!
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:38 am

Looks good. They needed an update.
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:17 am

I think they way the blue extends curve shaped to the lower nose would look a bit odd on the 747's! Something about looking like a Airbus Beluga springs to mind!  
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:24 am

Is Holland's coastline as newly hilly as the new livery suggests?  
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:36 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 6):

I'm not sure I like it. I mean how are the pilots going to see where they are going?  


Dan  

The aircraft is a flying computer. They will punch in the destination on the FMG and they are set to go, as the aircraft already knows where it is within a couple of feet. All they have to do is push it back from the gate and have a flight attendant advance the throttles and raise the landing gear. The aircraft will do the rest except lower the landing gear at the final destination. Hows that for a story?????????   
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:39 am

For the first time I like their livery!
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:45 am

ugh too many different fonts. messy.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:10 am

Due to some previous experiences with them, they're not exactly my favourite airline - but I always thought they had one of the nicer liveries out there. Seeing this I'm glad they gave it a bit of a (needed) refresh while not completely abandoning the concept and going eurowhite (    ).
At the same time, they tweaked it enough to make the difference immediately apparent, contrary to e.g. AF's and QF's last livery refreshes.
So all in all: Well done.   

Quoting wouwout (Reply 16):
ugh too many different fonts. messy.

They didn't change the fonts, though?
They only changed the positioning of the "Cityhopper" and "Royal Dutch Airlines" titles, which moved to the top half of the fuselage, next to the main KLM titles.
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:16 am

Hi all,
I like the new swoosh, and the new font, but I dislike the positioning of the subtitles 'Royal Dutch Airlines'. It jars.
I read somewhere recently that the airline was going to accentuate its 'Dutchness' ... Perhaps this is a major first step, highlighting the subtitle as part of the colourscheme.
... And while I am at it, I LOVE the 'crown' logo and overall colours of KLM. A true classic.
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:23 am

Reminds me of the gold swoosh on the UA 787s...
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:25 pm

Quoting wouwout (Reply 16):

ugh too many different fonts. messy.

I thought the same, they should've kept 'Royal Dutch Airlines' in Helvetica like they used to

I do like this new look however, will be good to see it in person
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:37 pm

I tried out rough makeover on A330 of this look and its looks no different to F70 and 737, so it should'nt be an issue applying it to the Airbus, 777 and 747 fleets. Would have been nice if one MD11 had got it as well.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:42 pm

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 18):
... And while I am at it, I LOVE the 'crown' logo and overall colours of KLM. A true classic.

I agree; it's a classic of graphic design. However, I prefer the original two-tone blue format of the original, when it was applied to the first Jumbo:


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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:52 pm

The two tone logo or even in full dark blue might look better on the current livery.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:18 pm

Well this surprises me too as KL themselves said that no other aircraft would get the revised livery. Appartently they will bu they will stretch the wavy dark blue line further down the fuselage unlike what was done on the ERJ190 and F70 which makes the new revised livery look better on the 737 (in this case). It will be nice if they will also paint their 744's in this new livery but these aircraft are almost reaching their phase out from the fleet.

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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:58 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 21):
I tried out rough makeover on A330 of this look and its looks no different to F70 and 737

Hi there ! Share it with us, I can´t wait to see how it gets on the main w/b fleet !
 
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:36 pm

 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:54 pm

Here's another photo...

http://mobile.twitter.com/dutchflyguys/status/538411311265492992

The reg is PH-BXZ and is due to be unveiled in a day or two.

I didn't think it would look right at first, but I actually really like it!
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:17 pm

What KL needs to drop all the engine logos, too much happening, they are not from middle east whatever happened to western minimalism? will KLM cargo also get this look?
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:55 pm

A little flair to its icon Livery, nice.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:45 pm

Thanks 777way !

I think this revised livery will be a winner on the 787´s and the 350´s, but I have my doubts if it will work for the rest of wide bodies ( it it ever happens ). I guess we will have to get used to it, its not a bad refresh after all.

I think the tail need a revamp too. With the modified livery the tail looks somehow outdated...
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:05 am

I think it will be really bad for their image if they dont apply this update to the entire fleet, no reputed airline does two different looks on selected aircraft, just because it dosent suit certain types.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:14 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 28):
What KL needs to drop all the engine logos, too much happening, they are not from middle east whatever happened to western minimalism? will KLM cargo also get this look?

Yeah this, great point. The engines would mesh in much better with the white belly
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:54 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 31):

True, that will be rather odd.

BTW I do find it quite amusing how some people want to see "western minimalism" when lots of people on A.net moan about boring schemes... Just proves the interesting diversity of opinions on this site!
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:50 am

Dosn't United have two liveries: 787/non 787?
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:02 am

UA are only doing it on 787s almost like celebrating a revolutionary new type in a way with a special kind of look, KL are applying it randomly on different aircraf based on who looks good and who dosent, thats silly, and KLM isnt comparable to UA, its also a big step for the airline breaking away from the stiff flag carrier look, the new look is tad frivolous, something not seen on the traditional big Euro carriers ever, except BA world tails but that was something else.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:21 am

Quoting anfromme (Reply 17):
They didn't change the fonts, though?
They only changed the positioning of the "Cityhopper" and "Royal Dutch Airlines" titles, which moved to the top half of the fuselage, next to the main KLM titles.

AFAIK they started to use the NOA font, instead of the "Helvetica style" for the Royal Dutch Airlines and Cityhopper titles on the new livery. Also some aircraft with KLM Asia tiles use this font. And on both "farewell MD-11's the markings were in NOA font too.
They also use it for the seff-print boardingcards.
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:07 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 35):
except BA world tails but that was something else.

O was that great.. pitty they got rid of all those tails.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:06 pm

Quoting kl5147 (Reply 36):
AFAIK they started to use the NOA font, instead of the "Helvetica style" for the Royal Dutch Airlines and Cityhopper titles on the new livery. Also some aircraft with KLM Asia tiles use this font. And on both "farewell MD-11's the markings were in NOA font too.

Apologies, you're right, it is a different font.
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:50 pm

I don't like it. It looks front heavy and unbalanced IMHO.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:17 pm

Apparently the new 737 livery didn't pass the quality control... both 737's all white now. Let's see how that turns out.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:58 pm

Quoting JetBuddy (Reply 39):
I don't like it. It looks front heavy and unbalanced IMHO.

Agree. It spoils the lines of the aircraft. They should have left it as it was. I've seen the E190 a few times at AMS. When you look at it head-on from ground level it looks like it's frowning due to the way the cheatline wraps around the nose..
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:04 am

I saw the Fokker 70 in the new livery today at Schiphol and it doesnt look as good as the original livery at all.
 
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RE: KLM New Livery

Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:00 am

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 40):
Apparently the new 737 livery didn't pass the quality control... both 737's all white now. Let's see how that turns out.


How is this possible. The aircraft are painted as all other aircraft that painted. Not passing quality control and painted all white so fast? Are you sure about this?

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Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:47 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 43):
How is this possible. The aircraft are painted as all other aircraft that painted. Not passing quality control and painted all white so fast? Are you sure about this?

Maybe they weren't painted, just foiled for testing purposes. If what MauriceB is saying is correct.. that they're all white now. But then again, if they were foiled..and it was removed.. they wouldn't be white. Hmm.
 
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Re: KLM New Livery

Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:34 am

Liladesign Nethelands did this.was anyone aware? they did quite a few others that closed down including VLM, Air Holland, VG Airlines, Delsey Airlines, RUS Aviation Cargo, Air Finland https://liladesign.com/portfolio.html
 
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Re: KLM New Livery

Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:13 pm

Lila have a track record of jinxing airlines.
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Re: KLM New Livery

Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:43 pm

CanadaFair wrote:
Liladesign Nethelands did this.was anyone aware? they did quite a few others that closed down including VLM, Air Holland, VG Airlines, Delsey Airlines, RUS Aviation Cargo, Air Finland https://liladesign.com/portfolio.html


The guy used to be here on A.net haha
 
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Re: KLM New Livery

Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:17 pm

A 3 year old thread! really?
 
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Re: KLM New Livery

Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:58 pm

Isn't this one already flying with new livery for mainline fleet?
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