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BA 767s Back To YYC. 787s To Where?

Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:35 pm

http://airlineroute.net/2014/11/28/ba-yyc-feb15/

Wasn't montreal scheduled to be a 787 as well? AUS is being upgauged to 777 as well. Where will BA be sending these additional 787 frames? To ICN?
 
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:41 pm

YYC (until Feb 2015)
AUS (until 24 Oct 2015)
MAA
CTU
HYD
PHL (resumes 28 March 2015)
EWR (until 28 March 2015)
YYZ
YUL (from 29 March 2015)
ICN (from 29 March 2015)

They currently have 8 788s and are operating 7 routes. After March 2015, they will be also be operating only 7. Perfectly normal for a small sub-fleet so far.

It is interesting that BA is taking the 788 away from YYC. LHR-YYC is one long ride in a BA 767. The fuel savings the 788 provided made perfect sense for the route. Maybe has something to do with the oil prices? The 767 does have 11 less J seats than the 787.

Same thing for YUL. the 787 has 13 less J seats than the 3 class 772. However they did use the 77W on LHR-YUL 4-5 times a month this summer.

Further reinforces the fact that Canada simply doesn't have the demand for F or J class.

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Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:54 pm

A BA 787-8 is on its way here now? It resumed flying to YYC about a week or so ago. The 767 took the route again for about 3 weeks only.
 
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:31 pm

What will EWR receive when the 787 takes its services elsewhere?
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:35 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 1):
Further reinforces the fact that Canada simply doesn't have the demand for F or J class.

There's little or no F class demand to/from Canada which is why few carriers offer it, but there's strong J demand on many routes. I've been on many Europe-Canada flights where J has been full or close to it.
 
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:42 pm

Quoting CX747 (Reply 3):
What will EWR receive when the 787 takes its services elsewhere?


4 class 772.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 4):
I've been on many Europe-Canada flights where J has been full or close to it.

I was speaking more in relative terms, compared to other countries. I agree with you though, J obviously is easier to fill than F. But again, just because J is full doesn't mean all passengers payed a J fare.

I myself have been upgraded free of charge* several times from Y to J on flights to/from YUL. AC doesn't allow it, but several other international airlines serving Canada still do.

* no frequent flyer card was used, only charm    (granted, my occupation does help a little !)

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Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:42 pm

Any chance the change to the 767 was related to the 787's going back to Boeing for updates?
 
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Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:59 pm

Quoting par13del (Reply 6):

Any chance the change to the 767 was related to the 787's going back to Boeing for updates

Could be. When YYC ends on February 10th, they will have 6 weeks where they will only be serving 6 routes with 8 frames. As you said, they might be doing the upgrades then.

Once AUS ends next October, they might bring back YYC with the 787.

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Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:26 am

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 5):
Quoting CX747 (Reply 3):
What will EWR receive when the 787 takes its services elsewhere?


4 class 772.

Are you sure about that? EWR typically does not receive planes with both F and J.
 
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:39 am

Quoting N62NA (Reply 8):
Are you sure about that? EWR typically does not receive planes with both F and J.

Confirmed by the timetables at ba.com
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:22 am

Quoting N62NA (Reply 8):
Are you sure about that? EWR typically does not receive planes with both F and J.

BA operates three daily flights between LHR and EWR.

Every day so far this month it has operated BA185 with a four-class 772. On seventeen occasions this flight has been operated by one of BA's three 772As that are configured with 17 F Class and 48 J Class seats. On the eleven other occasions it has been operated by one of their 772ERs configured with 14F and 48J Class seats.

The other two BA LHR-EWR flights are BA187 and BA189. So far in November both of these have been operated by one of their 787-8s. They are configured with no F and 35 J Class seats.
 
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:18 pm

BA has had to cycle all its current 787's through Victoriaville for upgrades and modifications by Boeing. I believe each of these takes around 21 days and this has also impacted on the 787 schedules. TristarSteve probably has more accurate info?!
 
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:01 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 1):
It is interesting that BA is taking the 788 away from YYC. LHR-YYC is one long ride in a BA 767

It's not that far and shorter than AUS, ICN, CTU, MAA or HYD. Probably the schedules are built around these flights and other routes are picked in a way that make good airframe utilisation.
 
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:27 pm

Quoting bastew (Reply 11):
BA has had to cycle all its current 787's through Victoriaville for upgrades and modifications by Boeing. I believe each of these takes around 21 days and this has also impacted on the 787 schedules. TristarSteve probably has more accurate info?!

Only the oldest four BA 787s went to VCV for modification.

The first, 'JA, was ferried LHR-VCV on 28 September. On 10 October it was ferried VCV -AUS where it was exchanged with 'JB that operated the LHR-AUS flight on 11 October.

'JB was ferried AUS-VCV on 11 October. It returned to AUS on 21 October after modification. There it was exchanged with 'JD that operated the incoming scheduled flight from LHR on 22 October.

'JD was ferried to AUS on 22 October. It was ferried back to AUS after modification on 30 October. On the following day it was exchanged with 'JC that arrived from LHR as BA191.

'JC flew to VCV for modification on 31 ~October. When the work was completed it was ferried back to LHR on 9 November as it was the last BA 787 to be modified by Boeing.

The modifications required by BA's other, newer 787s were not so extensive and were carried out by the airline.

'JF was out of service between its return on scheduled operations from CTU on 10 November until it operated BA191 to AUS on 15 November. 'JF was out of service from 13 until the evening of 16 November. 'JH was out of service from 16 to 20 November. It seems likely that they may have been modified in these short periods. 'JG was out of service from 6 to 9 November and again from 25 to 28 November. It could have been modified in one of these periods.
 
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:32 pm

I'm booked YYC-LHR in J shortly after the change. I appreciate things are never set in stone but I'm a little disappointed...was looking forward to my first 787 flight!
 
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:09 pm

Quoting Joost (Reply 12):
It's not that far and shorter than AUS, ICN, CTU, MAA or HYD.

I was speaking for the BA 767, not 787.

If i'm not mistaken, YYC-LHR is the longest 767 route for BA. Therefore, the fuel savings the 787 will provide is significant.

None of those routes you mention were ever a 767.

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Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:34 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 15):
If i'm not mistaken, YYC-LHR is the longest 767 route for BA. Therefore, the fuel savings the 787 will provide is significant.

I guess one of the more pressing questions is what will happen to Calgary when the 767s leave the fleet? And I don't think they're going to be hanging around that long... Is it possible that YYC will become a bit of a ping-pong route, and will be subbed back to a 788 when BA's 789s (and long-term, 7810s) begin to come online, and could take over some of the better performing present 788 routes???

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Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:53 pm

I believe that some people read too much into having a different type of aircraft on a particular route. You know that not everything is a conspiracy and maybe it is just because the demand for that size of aircraft is not there for a short time. IMO the type of aircraft doesn't really make a difference in the service. Most of the time the type of aircraft is insignificant except to the airline which would have its reasons for using that type and switching it out once in a while. Most airlines would kill to have that kind of fleet flexibility bu they don't. So for a few days you get a 767 than you may get a 787. It would be more than likely that it will change back to a 787 and eventually remain once BA gets a few more.
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:54 pm

Quoting MonsieurX (Reply 16):
I guess one of the more pressing questions is what will happen to Calgary when the 767s leave the fleet?

With the price of oil in freefall, I wonder how long before J traffic (and thus many overseas routes) will be jeopardized out of YYC in general.
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:01 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 1):
Further reinforces the fact that Canada simply doesn't have the demand for F or J class.

Hopefully, Norwegian takes notice....
 
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:03 pm

Quoting threepoint (Reply 18):

If the airline pass on the freefall to the passenger would that not drive up demand?
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Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:30 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 1):

Further reinforces the fact that Canada simply doesn't have the demand for F or J class.

One of the reasons AC is putting the A330 (and not the B767) on YYC-LHR and YYC-FRA is its 37 J seats, and soon to be added additional Premium Economy seats. Demand for J and PE remains strong.
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Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:38 am

Quoting readytotaxi (Reply 20):

If the airline pass on the freefall to the passenger would that not drive up demand?

For starters, it's unlikely that airlines will realize significant monetary gains on the diminishing price of oil - at least not yet. Many airlines have hedged their options and have locked in various percentages of their fuel at set prices for defined timeframes. I imagine that some airlines might find themselves in the position of paying a contract for fuel at a per-barrel rate that is above the current market rate.

Secondly, regardless if the airlines are realizing added profits due to lower fuel costs, the primary driver for business travel to and from YYC is related to the energy companies based there. A softening energy sector will likely also soften the demand for business travel and cargo revenue, so there may not be too many premium passengers for airlines to pass on any savings. Yes, the numbers of leisure passengers may increase, but we all know they aren't the folks that butter the airlines' bread.
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Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:21 am

Quoting VV701 (Reply 10):
Every day so far this month it has operated BA185 with a four-class 772. On seventeen occasions this flight has been operated by one of BA's three 772As that are configured with 17 F Class and 48 J Class seats. On the eleven other occasions it has been operated by one of their 772ERs configured with 14F and 48J Class seats.

Very nice and hopefully BA will go all four-class 777 to EWR instead of all 787.
 
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Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:20 am

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 1):
Further reinforces the fact that Canada simply doesn't have the demand for F or J class.

I'm not entirely sure that is the logical conclusion from BA changing their daily flight from a 888 to a 763. You might be right about F, but both aircraft have J (tho' the 763 has slightly less J seats; 24 vs the 788's 35).

Quoting brilondon (Reply 17):
I believe that some people read too much into having a different type of aircraft on a particular route.

I agree. And in a couple of years time when the long-haul 763s have exited the BA fleet, YYC will probably be back to a 788 as the 789s arrive and types get shuffled around routes. BA only has 8 788s at the moment so if they want to move one of those onto another route (like on ICN where it is replacing a 772), something has to give. Maybe YYC was just the least worst option or the most convenient when juggling all the permutations of a large international schedule and multiple aircraft types and configs.
 
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Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:18 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 15):
If i'm not mistaken, YYC-LHR is the longest 767 route for BA. Therefore, the fuel savings the 787 will provide is significant.

LHR-NAS is the longest 767 route for BA.
 
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Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:16 pm

Quoting bastew (Reply 25):
LHR-NAS is the longest 767 route for BA

Anyone know when/if we wil be seeing the 787 on the NAS/GCM route?
 
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Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:15 pm

Quoting mastermis (Reply 26):
Anyone know when/if we wil be seeing the 787 on the NAS/GCM route?

The first 787-9 is not due until around Sep 15. They start arriving at a rate of one or two a month after that, so I would guess unlikely before the W'15 schedule.
 
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Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:23 pm

I was wondering whether the morning BOS-LHR service would be a good place for a 787? I'm not sure how many seats are sold on that flight as a 777.
 
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Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:23 pm

Quoting bastew (Reply 25):
LHR-NAS is the longest 767 route for BA.

No it isn't, at least not distance wise.

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=lhr-nas%2C+lhr-yyc&MS=wls&DU=km

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Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:27 pm

Quoting MonsieurX (Reply 16):
guess one of the more pressing questions is what will happen to Calgary when the 767s leave the fleet? And I don't think they're going to be hanging around that long...

I believe the current BA plan is to retire their last long-haul 763 in November 2016 around the time their last 787-9 is slated for delivery. The last BA long-haul 763 in service is currently slated to be G-BNWI.

Quoting bastew (Reply 25):
LHR-NAS is the longest 767 route for BA.

Great circle distances are virtually the same for LHR to NAS and to YYC. YYC at 4,372 miles is just 30 miles further than NAS.
 
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Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:32 pm

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 28):

That flight seems to be doing well, with the occasional 77W sub, a friend of mine has flown that flight commonly on through flights to Europe and says that it's always 90% full at least
 
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Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:08 pm

Since there seem to be a lot of BA fleet-knowledgeable folks on this thread, I'd like to ask if there is any indication that BA may be planning any equipment (and/or frequency) changes to their SAN-LHR route?

There's been talk for a while of impending changes on the route which started in June 2011, but nothing definite has surfaced. (Also, whether significant or not, there have been at least 7 "upgrades" from the scheduled 772 to 77Ws on the route since May of 2014.)

Any insight about this would be much appreciated.

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Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:48 pm

Quoting brilondon (Reply 17):
I believe that some people read too much into having a different type of aircraft on a particular route. You know that not everything is a conspiracy and maybe it is just because the demand for that size of aircraft is not there for a short time.

Well said.

As for the argument that falling oil prices have dampened demand for business travel to YYC, I highly doubt that is true, let alone a factor in the BA downgrade from 788 to 763.

The drop in oil prices is a very recent event, and few companies will radically alter their travel budgets on such short notice. YYC's catchment area stretches across 3 provinces with a diversified and mixed economy, albeit with oil a major component.

If oil prices remain at or below $70 for a sustained period though (a year or longer), we might see some softening in traffic to YYC, then again we may not. The 40% drop in oil prices since June has been sudden and unexpected, and there is no indication it is sustainable, so business activity (and business travel) will remain unaffected for some time unless the $70 price sticks.
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Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:33 pm

Does anyone know what the seat count was of the 767-300 BA was using(189 or 252)? The 787 that they are flying here holds 214 passengers, so has YYC gotten an increased seat count or decreased seat count?
 
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Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:45 pm

Quoting Beatyair (Reply 34):
Does anyone know what the seat count was of the 767-300 BA was using(189 or 252)?

189, as they're using the intercontinental version. It's 24J, 24Y, 141M. On a side note, I flew the route last June, and the last row of seats (38DEF) were used for storage of cabin equipment. Is that normal procedure for BA 767s?
 
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Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:55 pm

Quoting Beatyair (Reply 34):

The 259 seat configuration is actually UK domestic one-class; the same planes can be converted during turnround to a two class configuration with various lower seating capacities for short-haul routes. There are seven 763s in this convertible configuration. Except in cases of severe disruption these planes don't fly far outside Europe..
They are a separate subfleet from the 192 seat (24J lie-flat/24W/144Y) long haul 3-class version which is to be used to YYC. Currently BA has eight 763s in this configuration, but one is to be withdrawn shortly.
 
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Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:51 am

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 33):
As for the argument that falling oil prices have dampened demand for business travel to YYC, I highly doubt that is true, let alone a factor in the BA downgrade from 788 to 763.

Not sure if you were referring to my post, but my intention was not to suggest that the impending down-gauge has anything to do with the recent oil price drop. Mine was a forward-looking reply to a forward-looking question posed in reply 20. I think we all understand that there are lag times as market conditions and operating costs fluctuate. What I think we can all agree upon is that YYC is highly-dependent on oil&gas being in a boom state, and all signs point towards a sustained downturn in the price of energy. Alberta is in for a return to austerity for a spell, I'm afraid. So is Saskatchewan and by extension and to a lesser extent, the southern interior of BC: the three YYC catchment areas you mentioned.
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Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:10 am

Quoting Joost (Reply 35):
189, as they're using the intercontinental version. It's 24J, 24Y, 141M. On a side note, I flew the route last June, and the last row of seats (38DEF) were used for storage of cabin equipment. Is that normal procedure for BA 767s?

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Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:37 am

Quoting Beatyair (Reply 38):
It seams so odd that a BA 767-300 holds 189 people and a Westjet 737-800 holds 176 people.

Not that odd when you look at the types of missions they each fly....
 
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Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:27 pm

Quoting threepoint (Reply 37):
Quoting yyz717 (Reply 33):
As for the argument that falling oil prices have dampened demand for business travel to YYC, I highly doubt that is true, let alone a factor in the BA downgrade from 788 to 763.

Not sure if you were referring to my post, but my intention was not to suggest that the impending down-gauge has anything to do with the recent oil price drop. Mine was a forward-looking reply to a forward-looking question posed in reply 20.

I don't think so. I agree with your comments; I was mainly agreeing with a poster above that too much can be read into equipment changes on routes.

Sometimes a route will be downgauged even if it was profitable with a larger aircraft if more $ can be made on another route with that larger aircraft, unrelated to YYC. So the downgraded route looks like it's struggling when maybe it's not. That may be the case with BA. Who knows?
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Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:00 pm

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 40):
So the downgraded route looks like it's struggling when maybe it's not. That may be the case with BA. Who knows?

Not me, although I would lay my chips on the side that predicts that all of the international routes from YYC will suffer over the next couple of years.
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:47 am

Quoting threepoint (Reply 41):
I rue the day when BA decides to replace its 744 service to YVR with a _______.

The fact that BA has stopped selling F class to YVR (using the former F seats as part of J class) and that YVR is one of 4 routes (also LAS/PHX/CPT) where they're using several 744s that they plan to retire within the next year or so and thus aren't upgrading with their latest premium products, is a good indication that YVR isn't a strong high-yield destination. That's always been the case.
 
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:25 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 42):
The fact that BA has stopped selling F class to YVR

YVR is not alone among Canadian cities for having low demand for First Class seats on any airline.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 42):
is a good indication that YVR isn't a strong high-yield destination. That's always been the case.

That was never in dispute. Although I would personally hesitate to conclude that because an airline isn't outfitting the most recent cabin layout within its aircraft on a particular route, that route isn't a strong F/J/Y/whatever market. It might well be high yielding, but the airline's refresh priorities may lie on other, more profitable or high-profile routes. In BA's case to YVR, YYC or any other Canadian city, I don't know what percentage of its premium seats are occupied by full fare paying customers, nor what the operating margins are. I'd suggest only the airline itself knows for sure, while the rest of us can merely make educated guesses or simply speculate.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 42):
YVR is one of 4 routes (also LAS/PHX/CPT) where they're using several 744s that they plan to retire within the next year or so and thus aren't upgrading with their latest premium products

OK, and then what? Is BA: A) replacing the 744s with another aircraft type of similar capacity, equipped with the latest premium products, B) replacing the 744s with another aircraft type equipped with the current layout, or C) canceling the route altogether? The safe bet would be A.
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RE: BA 767s Back To YYC. 787s To Where?

Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:31 am

Quoting threepoint (Reply 43):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 42):
YVR is one of 4 routes (also LAS/PHX/CPT) where they're using several 744s that they plan to retire within the next year or so and thus aren't upgrading with their latest premium products

OK, and then what? Is BA: A) replacing the 744s with another aircraft type of similar capacity, equipped with the latest premium products, B) replacing the 744s with another aircraft type equipped with the current layout, or C) canceling the route altogether? The safe bet would be A.

Yes, but the fact that they're not doing it right away indicates that those destinations aren't their most profitable, which usually means not the strongest premium class destinations. Once those aircraft are gone, obviously it will no longer be an issue and all their aircraft will have consistent products.

YUL was another BA route where they stopped selling F class quite early. I remember a couple of BA flights to YUL where I was booked in J and was seated in the old F class cabin with J service.
 
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RE: BA 767s Back To YYC. 787s To Where?

Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:12 am

I suspect a number of markets have strong J but almost no F demand. For example, since AC doesn't offer C, I'll bet almost all Canadian company travel policies only specify J except for the toppest of executives, but in many cases allow J for all intercontinental travel or something like that.
Whereas my US coworker, an individual contributor, was flown in F for a recent trip out of California because it was extremely long and met the threshold in our policy.
 
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RE: BA 767s Back To YYC. 787s To Where?

Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:22 am

Quoting bastew (Reply 11):
Victoriaville

Victorville.

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 28):
I was wondering whether the morning BOS-LHR service would be a good place for a 787? I'm not sure how many seats are sold on that flight as a 777.

BOS-LHR does excellent business for several airlines. That was a 747 route not all that long ago.
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RE: BA 767s Back To YYC. 787s To Where?

Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:25 pm

Looks like AUS will stay 788 after all next winter.

http://airlineroute.net/2014/12/04/ba-aus-w15update2/
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