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william
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:15 pm

I am glad I have been flying long enough when aircraft like a 767-200 were used everywhere on domestic routes. It was a big deal to have a "widebody" service your city, enough to make the local news. The B767 was and is a fine aircraft, just an an example that 'state of the art' does remain stagnant.
 
D L X
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:29 pm

Quoting PI4EVER (Reply 49):
US's new A330's were delivered with a full flat F class seat, a bulkhead and then J class. Star or some IATA regulation required a true First Class product on TATL segments and US had this 6 seat 1 row F class cabin installed. At the point of the HP merger the seats were retained and sold as J or used exclusively for Chairman's Preferred upgrades. They were subsequently removed when the fleet was reconfigured to J and Y.

And I'd say it was an upgrade. The Row 1 "Envoy Sleeper" was nice enough, but the Envoy Suites blow them away in terms of privacy and amenities.

It's kind of amazing what used to pass for F that isn't now even business class worthy.
 
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:46 pm

Quoting Armodeen (Reply 34):
What a shame about the 762s...I booked a specific route (CLT-MCO) in Sept 15 just to fly on one (but not for too long :P) while they cling to existence, only to find that 1 month later it has been canned in favour of a 752 :/

I've done exactly the same a month ago, CLT-MCO just to log a 762 (still missing in my log), only in my case it wasn't downgraded to a 757 but I actually got my 762 flight. The cabin interior was terrible. I'm a very frequent flyer on Delta and fly with their 767-300ER across the Atlantic a lot, Delta has finished installing the beautiful stylish comfortable cabins fleet wide, there is no better ride across the Atlantic in Y.
So anyway, I sat in that US Airways cabin on CLT-MCO and thought to myself, this airline must be kidding, is this a bad joke or something? Then I thought, so they use it on some short tourist routes like Orlando, ok why not.
When I got home I looked up the plane on Flightaware and realized it had been flying back and forth to Zurich all the previous weeks.
What a JOKE of an airline!

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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:58 pm

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 48):

The first to offer true fully lie flat seats in both premium cabins was UA in 2007. Not US and not CO.
 
slowrambler
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:29 pm

Quoting UA444 (Reply 53):

The first to offer true fully lie flat seats in both premium cabins was UA in 2007. Not US and not CO.

At the risk of beating a dead horse here, the discussion is about J-class suites with all-aisle-access. Amazing what people will do to refuse to acknowledge US had a first.
 
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:33 pm

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 40):
The Envoy Suite was the first widely-adopted business class suite with aisle access and true lie flat (not angled).

This is fact.

And it's an interesting note that other airlines are still playing catchup to this fantastic seat.
 
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:08 am

Quoting slowrambler (Reply 54):
At the risk of beating a dead horse here, the discussion is about J-class suites with all-aisle-access.

Actually it was about the dismantling of a 767
 
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:23 am

Quoting slowrambler (Reply 54):

LPDAL mentioned it was the first to be fully lie flat, which it was not since UA had theirs first. Aisle access is a different story.
 
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:33 am

Quoting American 767 (Reply 10):

Nearly half the Atlantic carriers and nearly every Far East full service carrier has 330 in their fleet ... it's quite an incredible feat to be able to avoid them completely

That's like successfully avoiding the MD80 at DFW hehe
 
D L X
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:21 am

Quoting UA444 (Reply 57):
LPDAL mentioned it was the first to be fully lie flat,

No, he was pretty clear that US was the first with aisle access in his first post.

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 40):
The Envoy Suite was the first widely-adopted business class suite with aisle access and true lie flat (not angled).
 
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:31 am

Quoting Fixinthe757 (Reply 6):

Is that a new livery 762? I was under the impression they weren't painting them.
 
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:38 am

Quoting jetsetter629 (Reply 1):
Flying them across the Atlantic is a terrible expirence.

I flew it in 2007 PHL-AMS-PHL. J class going and Y going back. The J class seat itself sucked at the time (still the old grey seat) but the service was excellent and I was not one bit miserable going back in Y. Granted I was seated in 10G (the mini Y class section and had nobody next to me). But still even with the video screens I was a happy camper. This may also be because this was my baseline at the time for international travel. I had never been abroad before. Speed up to today where I have flown UAs Global First over 10 times, and BusinessFirst on an exCO 777 and UA 763. The difference is night and day. I have yet to fly international in Y class again, hope to keep it that way. Been lucky so far.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 26):
The stubby 762, sure. The 764 is downright elegant

I think the 767 in general is an awesome looking plane, in-fact my favorite of the 767's is the 762 but to each is own. It looks like a beast when you compare the wing size with the fuselage size.
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:57 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 59):

In your exact quote he mentions true lie flats.
 
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:06 am

Quoting 29erUSA187 (Reply 60):

Quoting Fixinthe757 (Reply 6):

Is that a new livery 762? I was under the impression they weren't painting them.

They aren't. The 762 is in the foreground in that pic. The aircraft behind that is an American-operated 763.
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:36 am

Quoting PI4EVER (Reply 49):
Star or some IATA regulation required a true First Class product on TATL segments

Not correct (and it wouldn't have been an IATA regulation). AC was a founding member of Star Alliance and they dropped first class service on all routes many years before the Star Alliance was created.
 
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:54 am

Sad to see N253AY being pieced apart. I saw it back in January when it had an extremely smokey engine startup. I had just come into PHL on N248AY. Yeah, they were pretty ratty inside, but it was cool to fly on a piece of (Piedmont) history like that. The 767 has never been my favorite airplane on the outside, but the 762 is my favorite. I loved it in the newest US colors.
 
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RE: Ex US Air 767 Going Away

Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:03 pm

Quoting 29erUSA187 (Reply 60):
Is that a new livery 762? I was under the impression they weren't painting them.

No, same livery that they've had, just titled out due to return to lease. I'm not sure of that one's fate yet though. The American 763 in the background is in the One World livery.

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