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Quoting graham697 (Thread starter): PMUS A319s will get new seats, MCE (24 seats), and POWER. No PTVs. |
Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 5): More of Parkers penny pinching. So instead of a consistent product we now have PTV roulette. New AA, same poor decisions. |
Quoting MesaFlyGuy (Reply 6): While nothing honestly groundbreaking or original, I'd hardly call this penny-pinching. |
Quoting americanfan123 (Reply 7): I can't understand why there doing this. I'm a huge fan of what AA is becoming but this really disapoints me. |
Quoting deltaflyertoo (Reply 1): PMUS A319s are more than a "handful" in terms of not getting the PTV. But if ALL the A321s, 320s and remaining 737-800s are getting it then I guess that will equal "handful"...hopefully more will be said on Monday. |
Quoting deltaflyertoo (Reply 1): PMUS A319s are more than a "handful" in terms of not getting the PTV. |
Quoting KD5MDK (Reply 12): I'm curious what seat will go in these "lie-flat" 757s. All of the current international 757s (AA and US) have angled flat seats. |
Quoting United1 (Reply 9): Maybe I am reading what was written wrong but to me new aircraft means newly delivered....I'm not sure if that means retrofitting them onto the existing fleet. |
Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 5): More of Parkers penny pinching. So instead of a consistent product we now have PTV roulette. New AA, same poor decisions. |
Quoting MesaFlyGuy (Reply 15): Quoting COalways (Reply 11): Just flew on a AA A319 and no one really purchased the system...it was like 7.99 to activate the screen just a waste of money to add this to the fleet. How long a flight was it? Because less people are going to pay for the system on a shorter flight. |
Quoting LPDAL (Reply 18): 763s/772s are going to get the B/E Contour sleeper suite, which is found on all Delta international 763s and 764s. |
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 17): It is not $7.99 to activate the screen. There is a significant amount of free content (mostly TV shows through AA's partnership with the NBCUniversal family of channels) |
Quoting UGA777 (Reply 21): Disappointing but not unexpected news from Doug Parker and his penny pinching team. It will be two completely different products under one airline because the LUS planes will not be getting any of the upgrades. |
Quoting brilondon (Reply 14): I also don't find that the A319s all that cramped. |
Quoting D L X (Reply 23): At just 30", AA's 319 seat pitch is the worst amongst the majors, and a step backwards from US's 319 configuration. |
Quoting qqflyboy (Reply 13): Really no different than DL or UA. And keep in mind AA has ~200 737 a/c that were never destined to get PTVs, so the "roulette" was there before Parker came around. |
Quoting justplanenutz (Reply 28): * ~93 LUS 319s get new seats, but no PTV to match LAA |
Quoting justplanenutz (Reply 28): Not really much news there: * ~93 LUS 319s get new seats, but no PTV to match LAA *~35 757s (16 LUS + 18 LAA) get new F + WiFi * Everything else is old news Love to know how they came up with $2bn for this. |
Quoting USAirALB (Reply 24): Which I find mildly amusing considering AA loyalists will do everything they can to nitpick everything possible about PMUS-down to the look of the FA uniforms to the carpet in CLT, while they overlook that US still has 32'' of pitch on their A321s, and 31'' on all other Airbus narrowbodies. And because US hasn't installed slim-line seats in YCL, the seats are more plush and tend to have more padding. |
Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 25): not completely true for Delta. Right now that is the case but the plan will be that you wont get a mixed fleet. Ie all 757, 737s, 319s and 321s will have PTVs. all MD88, MD90, 717 and A320 will NOT have PTVs. |
Quoting justplanenutz (Reply 28): Love to know how they came up with $2bn for this. |
Quoting AAplat4life (Reply 30): I'm sure that $2B is on the high side, but I can see the estimate. |
Quoting AAplat4life (Reply 30): I am not that concerned about the PTV issue. I bring my own entertainment, as do many passengers. I tend to find what the airlines provide to be hit or miss. |
Quoting UGA777 (Reply 21): I figured this would happen. It is not surprising considering how US Airways was run the last few years. I remember the time they discontinued free non-alcoholic drinks domestically and then retracted that idea. I understand it is expensive to outfit the entire fleet with PTVs, but NONE of the LUS domestic fleet are getting them. That's over 100 A321s that will not be consistent with the rest of the fleet and many of those fly transcons. This "news" article is just stating facts about a plan that was already in place before the merger for the most part. Disappointing but not unexpected news from Doug Parker and his penny pinching team. It will be two completely different products under one airline because the LUS planes will not be getting any of the upgrades. |
Quoting apodino (Reply 32): 2. For the higher end customers...AA will use Cadillacs to transport them to connecting flights. This sounds really good in theory and in places like DFW I can see thiis somewhat working....but how good is it really going to be in practice. |
Quoting commavia (Reply 33): Okay, but that doesn't negate the fact that, indeed, USAirways did - and does - have inferior product and service offerings in several areas. Having now flown on USAirways multiple times, over multiple routes and hubs, my experience is that USAirways' IT system is absolutely inferior (takes way longer to do relatively simple things compared to nAAtive SABRE) and its airports aren't as nice. |
Quoting ckfred (Reply 34): the question was whether the MD-80 fleet would get any sort of IFE, since those planes were flying a lot of longer routes, especially ORD-West Coast. Management considered it, but the planes were never wired for audio |
Quoting commavia (Reply 27): * Satellite wifi added to all longhaul aircraft (757, 767, 777, 787, A330) |
Quoting ckfred (Reply 34): Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 25): not completely true for Delta. Right now that is the case but the plan will be that you wont get a mixed fleet. Ie all 757, 737s, 319s and 321s will have PTVs. all MD88, MD90, 717 and A320 will NOT have PTVs. True, although the net effect is the same - within a few years, a substantial portion of both AA's and Delta's domestic fleets will be flying around with PTVs, and a substantial portion will not. |
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 35): And unfortunately one of those areas - offering inedible premium class meals - is now on PMAA. |
Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 39): The most unpopular of the changes were rolled back a month ago and besides, |
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 35): And unfortunately one of those areas - offering inedible premium class meals - is now on PMAA. |
Quoting global2 (Reply 42): AA's 1st class meals are a whole lot better than the bag (ok, two bags) of Snyder's pretzels I got in 1st on US from CLT to LGA. I get that it's a short flight, but it departed at 6PM. I thought they'd at least have warm nuts in the ramekins to offer by now. |
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 19): Those B/E Contour seats absolutely suck, but it's all that really fits on a 763 to give all-aisle access. |
Quote: And fortunately AA upholstered them nicely with cloth, not leather. |
Quoting apodino (Reply 32): For the higher end customers...AA will use Cadillacs to transport them to connecting flights. This sounds really good in theory and in places like DFW I can see thiis somewhat working....but how good is it really going to be in practice. |
Quoting D L X (Reply 23): At just 30", AA's 319 seat pitch is the worst amongst the majors, and a step backwards from US's 319 configuration. |
Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 39): It's hilarious to listen to everyone lose their minds over not getting a bread plate or having to suffer through a meal without a linen tablecloth. |
Quoting UA444 (Reply 41): HP management thimking their way is better. And this same scenario would be repeated by yet another airline merger that involved that trash known as SHARES. |
Quoting LPDAL (Reply 44): Oh my, have you seen the legroom in F? |
Quoting LPDAL (Reply 44): It'd really be a shame for the work groups to squabble and drag down the customer experience in the process. |
Quoting commavia (Reply 33): True, although the net effect is the same - within a few years, a substantial portion of both AA's and Delta's domestic fleets will be flying around with PTVs, and a substantial portion will not. |
Quoting KD5MDK (Reply 12): I'm curious what seat will go in these "lie-flat" 757s. All of the current international 757s (AA and US) have angled flat seats. |
Quoting AAIL86 (Reply 26): Be curious to see if anything is done to upgrade economy on the 763s. Previously they had said no, here's hoping that changed. That is by far the biggest current cabin upgrade need AA has. |
Quoting commavia (Reply 27): * Fully lie-flat J on longhaul 757s * New F/Y seats on A319s, including 24 MCE and powerports (completed by 2016) * Satellite wifi added to all longhaul aircraft (757, 767, 777, 787, A330) |