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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:31 am

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 95):

The 777 fleet, both -200 & -300, are due for repaint into the new livery starting early 2016 at this stage. Likely OKO & OKP will remain in their Hobbit liveries until then.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:16 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 92):
There will be no Hobbit livery for the final film.

Thank heaven.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:59 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 100):
The 777 fleet, both -200 & -300, are due for repaint into the new livery starting early 2016 at this stage.

Speaking of repaints which international a320s have been repainted and how long until they all are done???
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:38 am

Quoting Andrensn (Reply 102):

From memory, OJA, B, C, D & E. The rest should be completed by around Aug 2015.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:35 am

I have a question, that could perhaps be answered by an elder statesman type (I won't mention names Mariner  )

Back in days of the DC-10-30, when NZ crewed the aircraft as far as LAX and then BA crew would take the flight on to LHR, did it fly LAX-LHR nonstop?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:51 am

Quoting gasman (Reply 104):
Back in days of the DC-10-30, when NZ crewed the aircraft as far as LAX and then BA crew would take the flight on to LHR, did it fly LAX-LHR nonstop?

Yes, it did  
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:24 pm

This photo of ZK-MVF was taken on 15th December 2014. Delivery is in January.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/15447680143/

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:31 am

with 9 days until the re-launch of the NZ service to SIN! does anyone have information on how the forward bookings are going - ? - they state it will be Profitable from day 1.. ! it would do a lot better if "Singapore Changi Airport" even put the NZ service on their website.!

Looking forward to an exciting year from NZ - hope it is full of lots of good things.  
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:32 am

When does SQ's A380 service start to AKL?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:03 am

Quoting motorhussy (Reply 108):

2 months ago October 28th. Ends March 31st.

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 107):

Well its replacing an SQ flight so i'd imagine loads will be ok in the peak season even with the SQ 380 on the other flight.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:37 pm

Would someone be able to provide an update on NZ aircraft deliveries and retirements for 2015 and beyond

Thanks
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:54 pm

In reply to byronicle6:
Deliveries 2015: 2 x A320, 3 x B787-9
Deliveries 2016: 2 x A320, 2 x B787-9
Deliveries 2017-19 13 x A320Neo, 5 x A321Neo, 4 x B787-9 (6 x B787-9 options)
As the A320/321Neos are delivered, the earlier A320s will leave the fleet.
The 5 x 767-300s will leave the fleet as the B787-9 increases.
The Beech 1900Ds will all be gone by August 2016 and Eagle Air closed down.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:24 am

The 767 fleet will be staying a little longer than expected...news to follow later  
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:53 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 37):
Offloading bags takes ages.

Out of interest, how does containerised baggage affect he time it takes to offload? Is it easier because a specific bag is assigned to a specific container and can be tracked down easier? Or does this actually add time because it requires moving other containers to access the one required?

Quoting Jetstar315 (Reply 111):
Deliveries 2017-19 13 x A320Neo, 5 x A321Neo, 4 x B787-9 (6 x B787-9 options)

So it's confirmed now that the A321s are up to 5 from the original 3? I must've missed that.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:15 am

Quoting Jetstar315 (Reply 111):
Deliveries 2015: 2 x A320, 3 x B787-9
Deliveries 2016: 2 x A320, 2 x B787-9
Deliveries 2017-19 13 x A320Neo, 5 x A321Neo, 4 x B787-9

Re the 789, at this time three are in service, by this time next year there will be six in service with two to follow in each of the following two years.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:17 am

Since Sharklet retrofits begin next year, I was wondering if NZ could possibly equip them on the domestic aircraft without them? I read somewhere a while back that they were looking at the retrofit programme if my memory serves me correctly.

Quoting airnewzealand (Reply 112):

The 767 fleet will be staying a little longer than expected...news to follow later

Did my Christmas wish come true?

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:04 am

Quoting Jetstar315 (Reply 111):

Thanks, couple of questions - What months in 2015 will the 3 787-9s be arriving, and when will the last 737-300 be leaving the fleet?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:39 am

Quoting airnewzealand (Reply 112):
The 767 fleet will be staying a little longer than expected...news to follow later

Great news, I have always enjoyed my flights on NZ 763s.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:00 am

Quoting Jetstar315 (Reply 111):
Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 116):

This is what I have from various sources:

Five domestic 320's due next year, none in 2016.
OXG Jan? 2015 ("early 2015", ordered Jun 2014) ----- c/n 6460?
OXH Feb 2015 (FY15)
OXI Mar 2015 (FY15)
OXJ Oct? 2015 (FY16) ----- 2nd half 2015
OXK Nov 2015 (FY16) ----- last one on order

Last 733 said to be NGJ in Nov 2015.

789 deliveries.
NZC Jul 2015
NZD Aug 2015
NZH Oct 2015
NZI Jul 2016
NZJ Sep 2016
NZK Aug 2017
NZL Oct 2017
NZM Dec? 2017 ("late 2017")
NZN Oct? 2018 ("2nd half 2018")

Looking forward to the 763 details, and interested to know where five 321NEO's were confirmed.

PA515

[Edited 2014-12-28 22:05:53]

[Edited 2014-12-28 22:21:36]
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:35 am

Quoting cchan (Reply 117):
Great news, I have always enjoyed my flights on NZ 763s.

Hopefully if they kept them any longer they give them an paint job & an interior refresh.

My bet would be seeing the return of the 767 to domesitc, like how they used the 762 at the end of there days.

While there is now a couple of AKL-CHC-AKL, during peak days could be possible to see them used more.

They only have around 50 more seats than an 320, which at peak they could fill on AKL-WLG, there is already 2x a320 flights within 30minutes at peak.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:40 am

Quoting Jetstar315 (Reply 111):
5 x A321Neo,

When was this announced?

Quoting airnewzealand (Reply 112):

Excellent news, certainly looking forward to this announcement!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:43 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 119):

I don't think they would spend money on them for domestic use. CHC-AKL is oneway on the 763 routes AKL-NRT-CHC. Hopefully they are keeping a couple longer but I'd see them on charters and tasman runs until the A321 arrives.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:08 am

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 121):
CHC-AKL is oneway on the 763 routes AKL-NRT-CHC

The in the past couple of weeks, there has been some AKL-CHC-AKL sectors on peak days with the 763.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:17 am

Quoting airnewzealand (Reply 112):



The 767 fleet will be staying a little longer than expected...news to follow later


Interesting! airnewzealand is usually on the pulse. Suave move from NZ. The 763 are great aircraft and with the winglets certainly aren't guzzlers over medium distances especially when you consider that they are paid off so don't have large finance costs or lease costs etc.
I haven't heard anything but my guess would be CHC-PER, AKL-DPS, SYD-RAR. These routes being just a little too long for A320 realistically but not worthy of brand new 789 (when the 789 can be used more effectively on other routes). The NRT-CHC flight I expect would change to the 789 in due course.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:22 am

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 123):
I haven't heard anything but my guess would be CHC-PER, AKL-DPS, SYD-RAR. These routes being just a little too long for A320 realistically but not worthy of brand new 789 (when the 789 can be used more effectively on other routes).

I was wondering the same thing and perhaps we will see AKL-HKT as well in the future. But the question remains as the 767's will exit the fleet sooner or later. What aircraft would succeed 767's on these routes?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:09 pm

A few things I've been pondering since my last post:

- I was about to ask if we will ever see NZ use 77Ws to Asia, but then I noticed that ZK-OKN was actually use on a rotation to NRT on the 27th and ZK-OKP on the 28th. Will this ever be a long term arrangement? I note that NZ7/NZ8 and NZ5/NZ6 are occasionally operated by 77Es rather than 77Ws, which presumably frees up a 77W for flights to Asia? (or is that just scheduling time for maintenance?)

- Why haven't some of the services to Asia had their flight numbers rationalized? NZ87 to HKG returns as NZ80. Likewise NZ99 to NRT returns as NZ90. There is another one too which escapes me at the moment. All the North America services seem to have rationalized flight numbers.

- Similar: why do Shanghai services use NZ28X flight numbers when ANZ services to elsewhere in the region all have much lower flight numbers (lower flight numbers being more prestigious and all that). None of this really matters and the allocation of flight numbers is incredibly inconsequential, but I'm always curious as to how these things came to be.  

- Are there any plans for a 737 farewell flight, like what Qantas did for the 767? The 747's retirement was rather lackluster, though I appreciate that there is a massive difference in the cost of operating a 'farewell service' for a 747 as compared to a 737/767.

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 100):
The 777 fleet, both -200 & -300, are due for repaint into the new livery starting early 2016 at this stage. Likely OKO & OKP will remain in their Hobbit liveries until then.

Good, seems like a decent run for the special liveries.

Quoting zkncj (Reply 119):
Hopefully if they kept them any longer they give them an paint job

No no no, while the paint on some of them is certainly getting faded, they still look better than the trashy new livery.


Quoting zkncj (Reply 119):
an interior refresh.

I don't find the interiors to be too bad, though the sidewalls and bins look very 1980s.

Quoting zkncj (Reply 119):
My bet would be seeing the return of the 767 to domesitc

I hope they do some domestic runs towards the end. Might be a good chance to finally log the whole fleet.   

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 123):
my guess would be CHC-PER, AKL-DPS, SYD-RAR. These routes being just a little too long for A320 realistically but not worthy of brand new 789 (when the 789 can be used more effectively on other routes).

Makes sense. Use the 767 to further develop the route then, in a few years time either replace it with a 772/789 (if doing so would be viable) or can it. Seems like a good opportunity for the airline what with the low cost of fuel and having 'right size' wide-body aircraft available for the medium term. Does anyone know when the next D checks would be due for the 767 fleet?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:11 pm

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 124):

If the B763s are being used for further expansion like AKL-HKT then further aircraft will need to be ordered to operate those routes in the years ahead. Could DPS be further expanded with maybe a CGK service on the days DPS doesn't operate?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:51 pm

Quoting PA515 (Reply 118):
789 deliveries

what is the conjection on which aircraft will be the first with a different seating seating layout?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:48 pm

Weren't 2 of the 763's going next year as the 3 789's arrive? so interesting to hear that they will stay around longer how many will stay? maybe there being kept just in-case the 772 upgrade fall behind..!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:58 pm

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 125):

NZ only have 7 77Ws enough for the most premium LAX/LHR/SFO routes and to premium for Asian services though maybe HKG could fill extra J? There are 77W to NRT on Jan 3/4 aswell not sure of the reason. NZ8 gets a 772 once a week to allow maintenance. Not sure when heavier C checks are due on the 77W fleet though.

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 124):

The 789 is pretty efficient and will replace 763 capacity where an A320 can't unless they use a 772.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:35 pm

Has NZ increased it order of 789's to 12?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:39 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 130):

Has NZ increased it order of 789's to 12?

Yes, they announced it a few weeks ago

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ticle.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11370756


....Air New Zealand will add two more Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner to its fleet.

This will take the number of Dreamliners to 12 by the end of 2018.

Air New Zealand last week added its third 787 to its fleet.

The airline's chief executive Christopher Luxon announced the fleet investment at an event in Sydney today....


[Edited 2014-12-29 14:41:00]
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:04 pm

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 131):
This will take the number of Dreamliners to 12 by the end of 2018.

So what will the longhaul fleet comprise by this date? Aside from the 12 x 789's, how many 77E's and 77W's? Presumably all the 763's will have been retired.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:17 pm

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 131):
Yes, they announced it a few weeks ago

Thanks, I don't recall it being mentioned here.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:19 pm

Quoting motorhussy (Reply 132):
So what will the longhaul fleet comprise by this date? Aside from the 12 x 789's, how many 77E's and 77W's?

To the best of my knowledge ( which isn't saying a lot   ) the 77W and 77E fleets should be more or less as they currently are ( although I had heard a rumour that they wanted to get their hands on another pair of 77W, but I have not idea whether there is any basis to that )

Quoting motorhussy (Reply 132):
Presumably all the 763's will have been retired.

In my understanding they were all meant to be gone by the end of 2016, however, up thread there is this post

Quoting airnewzealand (Reply 112):
The 767 fleet will be staying a little longer than expected...news to follow later  

Not sure what 'a little longer' means... but if it's a couple of years then at least some of them could be around by then. I have mixed feelings on that. I am very fond of them, but it is good to see NZ modernising and simplifying their fleet so getting rid of them is a step forward ( even QF has now retired all of their 767s) . On the other hand, if they are planning to keep some of them for a while that means that the 787s are more for expansion than replacement of the 767s which is quite exciting.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:24 pm

Quoting Jetstar315 (Reply 111):
Deliveries 2017-19 13 x A320Neo, 5 x A321Neo,

Has the total NEO order increased from 13 to 18 ? I missed that. I thought it was 13 NEO in total at least 3 of which would be A321NEO .
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:31 am

Quoting airnewzealand (Reply 112):

With the way fuel prices are currently, it'd be silly to dispose of them. But then again, I really wish they'd retrofit them as the current product is substandard (especially J, but the Y seat isn't very comfortable itself).
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:21 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 136):
With the way fuel prices are currently, it'd be silly to dispose of them. But then again, I really wish they'd retrofit them as the current product is substandard (especially J, but the Y seat isn't very comfortable itself).

If they did refit the 763, surely it would be to remove J and add more Y class  
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:24 am

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 134):
although I had heard a rumour that they wanted to get their hands on another pair of 77W, but I have not idea whether there is any basis to that

Seems to be doing the rounds lately, didn't NZ mention if an release to the media a while back that they are looking for a couple more?

Surely VA could off load a couple of there un-profitable 77W's to NZ
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:51 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 138):

Wasn't that before they ordered 2 more 789s?

VA as far as I'm aware make money with the 77W to LAX. I do wonder if they will drop AUH tho, maybe increase SYD-LAX? The 77W fleet must be due for heavy checks soon the first aircraft atleast, I believe they will be refitted in 2015!?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:09 am

Some incorrect information being discussed above.

Quoting Jetstar315 (Reply 111):
Deliveries 2015: 2 x A320, 3 x B787-9
Deliveries 2016: 2 x A320, 2 x B787-9
Deliveries 2017-19 13 x A320Neo, 5 x A321Neo, 4 x B787-9 (6 x B787-9 options)

The remaining A320CEO orders will be delivered in 2015 but some of these still fall into the 2016 Air New Zealand financial year which I think leads to the confusion. PA515 above looked to have got it pretty spot on.

There has been no change to the NEO order placed earlier in the year. It stands at 10 x A320NEO and 3 x A321NEO (still retaining the ability to upsize more aircraft).

Quoting zkncj (Reply 122):
The in the past couple of weeks, there has been some AKL-CHC-AKL sectors on peak days with the 763.

I'm not familiar with such flights. CHC-AKL has been happening and has been operated as a mix of revenue flights and positioning flights.

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 125):
- I was about to ask if we will ever see NZ use 77Ws to Asia, but then I noticed that ZK-OKN was actually use on a rotation to NRT on the 27th and ZK-OKP on the 28th. Will this ever be a long term arrangement? I note that NZ7/NZ8 and NZ5/NZ6 are occasionally operated by 77Es rather than 77Ws, which presumably frees up a 77W for flights to Asia? (or is that just scheduling time for maintenance?)

Four flights only spread over two weekends. Planned and no doubt linked with some Japanese organized travel group/tour. Similar to how the 744 still did the odd NRT even in the past year or so. 77W planning allows for a maintenance visit from Tuesday to Thursday which sees NZ7/8 at the moment operated by a 772 (it used to be NZ5/6 before the delivery of OKR/OKS).

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 128):
Weren't 2 of the 763's going next year as the 3 789's arrive? so interesting to hear that they will stay around longer how many will stay? maybe there being kept just in-case the 772 upgrade fall behind..!

Three were going next year which was reflected in recent plans I have seen and the most recent series of meetings held in my area. If it's changed it has either changed very recently or the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing (but that's not unheard of in larger organizations).
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:14 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 138):

Seems to be doing the rounds lately, didn't NZ mention if an release to the media a while back that they are looking for a couple more?

Surely VA could off load a couple of there un-profitable 77W's to NZ

It had never been mentioned in a media release and seems to be one of those A.NET rumours people start taking as gospel. In this industry though I'd never say never. You won't see VA 77W at Air New Zealand. They are of quite different spec and in fact there is even variation within the VA fleet which causes them grief (some have the larger rear cargo door option, some do not).
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:48 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 137):
If they did refit the 763, surely it would be to remove J and add more Y class

And, ideally, install their new Y+ product instead.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:51 pm

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 140):

Hey mr airnz,

In our planning, 3 weeks ago, we were communicated the aircraft would be staying longer, as such this affects our training/man planning for mid haul airline...how many, we were not told, but should be made available in later news.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:19 pm

Quoting airnewzealand (Reply 143):
In our planning, 3 weeks ago, we were communicated the aircraft would be staying longer, as such this affects our training/man planning for mid haul airline...how many, we were not told, but should be made available in later news.

Interesting, thanks.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:34 am

Is "mid-haul" for the 767 intended to be

AKL-RAR
RAR-LAX
AKL-HNL
AKL-PPT
AKL-SYD
CHC-PER

I'm assuming that it is not

AKL-PER
AKL-PVG
AKL-NRT

as they are the first 789 routes.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:28 pm

Quoting Nouflyer (Reply 145):

"Mid-haul" is wherever the 767s and 789s fly to.. It's a term used to describe the crew.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:11 am

After many humming and haring, I've decided to book a long haul via Australia with UA. Excited to get to try the 787-9 on a real flight instead of just to Australia. Return was just under $1500. Way cheaper then the $2600 NZ was asking. Amazing thing is, I'll still be getting roughly the same amount of status points thanks to the WLG-MEL and SYD-WLG leg with NZ as if I took the full trip with NZ.

Welcome back NZ107, loved your northern lights photo on FB!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:53 am

China Southern Adds Christchurch Charter Service in Feb 2015

China Southern for the 2nd consecutive year is operating Guangzhou – Christchurch charter service during Chinese New Year, with Boeing 787-8 aircraft. The airline plans to operate the flight from Guangzhou on 14FEB15, 20FEB15 and 26FEB15.

CZ8507 CAN1600 – 0810+1CHC 787
CZ8508 CHC1040 – 1730CAN 787


http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/...hurch-charter-service-in-feb-2015/


There was only 1 charter last year, so having 3 this year looks more promising
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 150

Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:12 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 146):
"Mid-haul" is wherever the 767s and 789s fly to.. It's a term used to describe the crew.

Any idea as to which order the following flights will transition from 767 to 789?

AKL-DPS
CHC-PER
AKL-PPT
AKL-RAR-LAX
AKL-HNL

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Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos