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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:30 pm

Cathay Pacific took delivery of their 70th 777 aircraft. Article: http://airwaysnews.com/blog/2015/09/...s-delivery-of-its-70th-boeing-777/
 
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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:08 am

Quoting TC957 (Reply 1):

LHR also on Sat. 20.02.16

HAJ, HAM, BCN, GVA, AGP, FRA are among the first EU routes.
 
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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:59 am

Emirates Takes Delivery of A6-EPC: www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVxfJdcW_eI
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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:42 pm

N734AR (American) had a B1 flight today.
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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:59 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 5):
N734AR (American) had a B1 flight today.

3 B1 test flights today

American Airlines N734AR LN 1344 as BOE318



Emirates A6-EPE LN 1348 as BOE933



and

EVA Air B-16725 LN 1349 as BOE428

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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:17 pm

Isn't there a production list somewhere?
 
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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:35 am

 
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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:56 am

Quoting N14AZ (Thread starter):

The old thread (part 3) is archived and can not be replied to any more.

I just read on http://fraaviation.forumsfree.de/t14872-swiss that the Swiss' B777 will be operated to Frankfurt at the beginning of February 2016. Any news about Swiss' first B777?

According to the list boefan posted, the parts have started arriving in Everett for SWISS first 777. I live an hour or so south of KPAE, and have never gone to see a 777 do any flight testing, but being of Swiss ancestory, I think this will be my first. Very excited to see this 777.
 
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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:03 am

Quoting spahrtan (Reply 9):
I live an hour or so south of KPAE, and have never gone to see a 777 do any flight testing, but being of Swiss ancestory, I think this will be my first. Very excited to see this 777.

The same here. Great, looking forward to your reports and maybe even pics.
 
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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:35 pm

I've noticed that Boeing usually delivers 777's towards the end of each month, with few delivered before the last week or so of most months. Why is this ?
 
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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:17 pm

Garuda Indonesia Celebrates 777-300ER Delivery with Special Livery


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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:40 pm

Quoting TC957 (Reply 11):
I've noticed that Boeing usually delivers 777's towards the end of each month, with few delivered before the last week or so of most months. Why is this ?

Same reason you probably want to pick up your new car closer to the end of the month, you effectively defer most of one monthly payment.
 
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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:52 am

Quoting TC957 (Reply 11):
I've noticed that Boeing usually delivers 777's towards the end of each month, with few delivered before the last week or so of most months. Why is this ?
Quoting trex8 (Reply 13):
Same reason you probably want to pick up your new car closer to the end of the month, you effectively defer most of one monthly payment.

Plus or minus a day or two for the most part the airplanes are delivered when they're ready to go. Customers can delay delivery in agreement with Boeing but not to save a monthly payment. They tend to pile up towards the end of the month because of Boeing milestones (end of the month, end of the quarter, end of the half and end of the year) and contractual delivery dates. You can see the pressure to get stuff out the door build towards the end of the month and release as you start a new month.
 
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RE: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:40 am

B-18005 on its way back to TPE
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First 77W-operated CI61/62 will depart TPE late night 1 Nov and arrive FRA early morning 2 Nov.

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:41 am

LN 1425, Aeroflot's next 77W, made its first flight yesterday.

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:49 am

And another 77W was delivered to Eva Air last week.

Not sure if this aircraft is already equipped with 10-abreast economy seats.

Boeing 777 -35E 42104 1419 B-16728 Eva Air delivery 29jul16 PAE-TPE


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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:43 am

LN 1430, a cargo plane, emerged from final assembly.

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:16 pm

Air Austral's next 77W emerged from final assembly.

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:35 pm

When should we expect United's 1st 77W to roll out of the factory?

IIRC, delivery is due in December ?
 
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:22 am

LN 1430 made a test flight yesterday.

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:40 am

No more " NO SMOKING "sign, new built B777 with the " NO ELECTRONICS " switch at the flight deck overhead panel.

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:46 pm

Not sure what's going on with that Angola 77W (LN 1386), it was in storage for some time and is now being towed around quite a lot.

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:53 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
And another 77W was delivered to Eva Air last week.

Not sure if this aircraft is already equipped with 10-abreast economy seats.

Boeing 777 -35E 42104 1419 B-16728 Eva Air delivery 29jul16 PAE-TPE


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B-16728 EVA Airways Boeing 777-36N(ER) - C/N 42104 / LN 1419 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

I had not heard that EVA was going to 10 abreast on its 77Ws. Is it just the new ones or will they be retrofitting their entire fleet?
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:57 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Not sure what's going on with that Angola 77W (LN 1386), it was in storage for some time and is now being towed around quite a lot.


When they received their last frame (April 2016), Angola’s transport minister Augusto da Silva Tomas said the next frame will arrive later this year financing had been finalized. So I am guessing said financing has not yet finalized. It looks like they normally depend on EX-IM financing, which has been flaky as of late - they had to take out a bridge loan from HSBC to take delivery of their fourth frame.
 
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:59 pm

SEPilot wrote:
I had not heard that EVA was going to 10 abreast on its 77Ws. Is it just the new ones or will they be retrofitting their entire fleet?


All new 77W's will be delivered with 10Y, not sure if the existing fleet will be retrofitted.
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:00 pm

Air Austral LN 1431 rolled out of paint

ImageF-OLRD Air Austral Boeing 777-39M(ER) - C/N 61602 / LN 1431 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr
 
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:03 pm

If you look closely, the tail features an erupting volcano.

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:10 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
SEPilot wrote:
I had not heard that EVA was going to 10 abreast on its 77Ws. Is it just the new ones or will they be retrofitting their entire fleet?


All new 77W's will be delivered with 10Y, not sure if the existing fleet will be retrofitted.

I really liked the 4 flights I took on EVA; I do not relish the idea of a 15 hour flight with 17" seats, though. My wife will have no problem, but I will. I don't mind it on short flights, but JFK-TPE does not qualify. Would they need to block off seats due to weight restriction if they go to 10 abreast across the board? I would think it likely.
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:53 am

Saudia's next 77W during a test flight two days ago.

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:18 pm

SEPilot wrote:

All new 77W's will be delivered with 10Y, not sure if the existing fleet will be retrofitted.

I really liked the 4 flights I took on EVA; I do not relish the idea of a 15 hour flight with 17" seats, though. My wife will have no problem, but I will. I don't mind it on short flights, but JFK-TPE does not qualify. Would they need to block off seats due to weight restriction if they go to 10 abreast across the board? I would think it likely.[/quote]
If youre just talking about JFK-TPE, CI seem to be doing fine with 10Y. Not heard of them needing to block off seats, Leaving cargo is another issue but theres probably nowhere as much going westbound as east bound. Besides when you run several 744freighters weekly leaving a few pallets of underbelly cargo is nothing ( a daily 77W gives you as much cargo volume as a weekly 744F)
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:25 pm

trex8 wrote:
SEPilot wrote:

All new 77W's will be delivered with 10Y, not sure if the existing fleet will be retrofitted
I really liked the 4 flights I took on EVA; I do not relish the idea of a 15 hour flight with 17" seats, though. My wife will have no problem, but I will. I don't mind it on short flights, but JFK-TPE does not qualify. Would they need to block off seats due to weight restriction if they go to 10 abreast across the board? I would think it likely.



If youre just talking about JFK-TPE, CI seem to be doing fine with 10Y. Not heard of them needing to block off seats, Leaving cargo is another issue but theres probably nowhere as much going westbound as east bound. Besides when you run several 744freighters weekly leaving a few pallets of underbelly cargo is nothing ( a daily 77W gives you as much cargo volume as a weekly 744F.

BR was my airline of choice, but I think I will be flying KE on their 748 on this next trip. After that, we will see. If they do well I may stick to them. Of course price is a big factor; when I first flew BR they were among the cheapest. They now seem to be about $100 per person above KE and CA. With 2 (and soon to be 3) fares instead of one that makes a big difference.
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:14 am

Test registration N5022FE has been applied to TAAG D2-TEK, this could mean that a functional test flight could happen in the next days and delivery is finally at the horizon:

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:27 pm

Still no news on the UA frames in the firing line ?
 
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:09 pm

TC957 wrote:
Still no news on the UA frames in the firing line ?



I was wondering the same thing. IIRC, the 1st frame is scheduled for December delivery,
which I assume to mean a November factory rollout.

I figure it has to be close to taking shape on the final assembly line right now
 
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:12 pm

NG263 wrote:
Test registration N5022FE has been applied to TAAG D2-TEK, this could mean that a functional test flight could happen in the next days and delivery is finally at the horizon:

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by Woodys Aeroimages on flickr, see:https://www.flickr.com/photos/woodysaeroimages/29379229365/in/photostream/


TAAG D2-TEK has flown an FCF on 8/11 and a C1 on 8/15 . Test reg was re-applied afterwards because 2 EWA flights are planned in the near future .

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE627

Delivery was scheduled for 9/31 but that was 4 months ago

you can monitor all flights including the one above here :

http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1 ... li=1#gid=0
 
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:33 pm

boefan wrote:
TAAG D2-TEK has flown an FCF on 8/11 and a C1 on 8/15 . Test reg was re-applied afterwards because 2 EWA flights are planned in the near future .


In general, the only time a test registration number is applied to a production airplane is when engineering testing is being done not related to delivery of that airplane.
 
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:37 am

Boeing is currently testing assembly robots on the 777 production line. Things are not going smoothly. Yet.

Boeing’s new robotic 777 fuselage-assembly system is gearing up very slowly, with some mishaps requiring rework. That’s compounding supplier issues to cause a buildup of incomplete jobs, slamming 777 final assembly and requiring heavy overtime to keep deliveries on track.

Production of Boeing’s large 777 twinjet in Everett is significantly backed up, with incomplete jobs on each aircraft forcing catch-up work, some of which is being finished only after the jets roll out onto the airfield.

Final-assembly mechanics are slammed. Scrambling to fix the mess, they’ve kept 777 deliveries on track only by working long overtime hours, including weekends, with just two days off a month.


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http://www.seattletimes.com/business/bo ... ion-snarl/
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:06 pm

Fuselage sections, requiring travelled work or just waiting until the FAUB issues are over ?

777 fuselage sections at the 40-41 building in Everett. The white one was parked outside the 40-27 FAUB recently, note the temporary fasteners called “clecos” — which stick out a couple of inches from the skin.

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:30 pm

The white one is a salvaged aircraft section used for start-up testing. Probably this:
http://aviationweek.com/mro/tearing-dow ... es-1451431

It's also a mid-body. As the Seattle Times article says, FAUB works on the fore and aft sections. A different robotic system works on the mid-body. That mid-body was parked in front of 40-27 recently, and disappeared several times in the last month or two. Presumably, it was inside for the first tests, so the mid-body production system is on a different schedule than FAUB. Whether or not that is intentional, or because of similar schedule slides is a question to ask Boeing.

Clecos are used extensively in aerospace during drilling work to hold things in place while supported on the tooling. Once the workers are done drilling an area and can get their tools out of the way, the proper fasteners are installed. Moving parts by crane while held together by Clecos could be a concern, but that should have been checked by both the manufacturing and the stress engineers to ensure there are no stress issues or factory safety concerns. I'm curious if they're held together by just Clecos, or if there's other fasteners keeping the parts together, with the Clecos further stabilizing the structure.

The green one is curious. Look at those cutouts - those aren't normally there, neither as doors nor removeable panels. It looks like they fastened big bars of unprimered aluminum along the edges to stabilize the frames where they've been cut. And the corners are not radiused.

It's not a production aircraft section. I'm guessing it was a FAUB test frame, built from new parts instead of a salvaged airframe. Then they must have cut out those sections as either large structural test coupons or for very close inspection in the lab to ensure the robotic fastening process is achieving the proper strength, not causing any unintended damage, etc. Look at the locations: the window belt, several of the panel splices, and I think two sections in the middle of a panel - exactly the sort of deliberately chosen variety I'd go for if I wanted to make sure the different areas of the fuselage were thoroughly inspected.
 
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:33 pm

boefan wrote:
NG263 wrote:
Test registration N5022FE has been applied to TAAG D2-TEK, this could mean that a functional test flight could happen in the next days and delivery is finally at the horizon:

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by Woodys Aeroimages on flickr, see:https://www.flickr.com/photos/woodysaeroimages/29379229365/in/photostream/


TAAG D2-TEK has flown an FCF on 8/11 and a C1 on 8/15 . Test reg was re-applied afterwards because 2 EWA flights are planned in the near future .

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE627

Delivery was scheduled for 9/31 but that was 4 months ago

you can monitor all flights including the one above here :

http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1 ... li=1#gid=0



I guess TAAG has their 77W in layaway? :)
 
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing/Production

Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:11 am

Air Austral LN 1431 performed a test fight yesterday.

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing Production - Part 4

Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:29 pm

TC957 wrote:
Still no news on the UA frames in the firing line ?

Yes, on this fine website I just saw all 14 UAL 77Ws uploaded: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=5
First will be l/n 1453, last will be l/n 1504, meaning almost 1 in 3 new 77Ws will be for United between november and next summer.
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing/Production

Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:40 pm

Many thanks....now any news of the upcoming KU ones as well ? Thought they were due within the next few months as well.
 
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing/Production

Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:04 pm

United's first 77W entered final assembly.

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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing/Production

Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:11 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
United's first 77W entered final assembly.

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https://twitter.com/PlanesAtPaine/statu ... 5468054528


So we're looking at rollout in second half of November?
 
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing/Production

Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:36 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
United's first 77W entered final assembly.

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https://twitter.com/PlanesAtPaine/statu ... 5468054528


So we're looking at rollout in second half of November?


In 2 weeks actually
 
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Re: Official 777 Flight Testing/Production

Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:20 am

1st JASDF N509BJ leaving PAE for cabin outfit

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Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:25 am

boefan wrote:
1st JASDF N509BJ leaving PAE for cabin outfit

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http://twitter.com/PlanesAtPaine/status ... 2102223872


Thanks for the picture and link!

Looks very nice !

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