Official 777 Flight Testing/Production

29erUSA187 · Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:36 pm

Hello all,
I was inspired by the current 787/747 threads to start this thread, dedicated to the production of the 777. They are still being rolled out and delivered at a pretty nice clip. If anybody wants to help take pictures and monitor production, that would be great.

Thanks all, and happy flying!

boefan · Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:57 pm

Great to see a thread starting

Yesterday China Eastern Airlines B-2005 L/N 1259 was delivered

and Thai Airways HS-TKX L/N 1267 went up on a B1 test flight

HS-TKX Thai Airways International Boeing 777-3D7(ER) - C/N 42113 / LN 1267 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

also last night Saudi Arabian Airlines HZ-AK25 L/N 1269 has beed rolled out and parked to the Fuel dock

Fuel Dock 12.17.2014 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

i have created a long time ago a production table .If you like you can check it out
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/c...kw2a2Y1cWZSWEE&usp=drive_web#gid=5

TC957 · Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:03 pm

l/n 1271 is an interesting bird - only the 2nd 77W BBJ , it's HZ-MF9 for the Saudi Finance Ministry. Seems having 2 787BBJ's isn't enough for them.

N14AZ · Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:29 pm

Quoting 29erUSA187 (Thread starter):
I was inspired by the current 787/747 threads to start this thread, dedicated to the production of the 777.

Fantastic idea! Thanks for starting this thread.

seabosdca · Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:59 pm

Quoting TC957 (Reply 2):
only the 2nd 77W BBJ , it's HZ-MF9 for the Saudi Finance Ministry. Seems having 2 787BBJ's isn't enough for them.

They've got quite the VIP fleet. In addition to this 777 they have the mentioned 2 787s, a BBJ3, two BBJ1s, and three G300s.

And this is entirely separate from the royal family fleet.

karadion · Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:25 pm

I have a question that I haven't really found anywhere even though searches may be eluding me.

The 777-9X is a stretch of the 77W but does that make it the base model of the 777X family? After all, the 777-9X is 8-9 feet longer (depends on who you're reading it from) from the 77W but the 777-8X is 14 feet shorter than the 77W. Boeing has a huge backlog for the 777-9X which all signs points to that the 8X will take place several years after FA, rollout, flight testings of the 9X occurs.

So with that:
777-8X shrink
777-9X base
777-10X stretch if offered?
OR
777-8X base
777-9X stretch
777-10X double stretch again if ever offered.

boefan · Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:14 pm

Thai Airways HS-TKX L/N 1267 will be ferried to VCV for painting today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE444

29erUSA187 · Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:19 pm

Does anyone have the exact figures for how many 777's are rolled out per month? I thought it was 3, but it seems like it has to be more than that

Stitch · Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:27 pm

Quoting 29erUSA187 (Reply 7):
Does anyone have the exact figures for how many 777's are rolled out per month? I thought it was 3, but it seems like it has to be more than that

Current production rate is 8.3 per month / 100 per year.

Miami · Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:48 pm

Thanks for starting this thread!

Really cool pic of Emirates and Saudi 77W doing some testing a few days ago!

Saudi 777-300ER on final. Emirates passing behind by LoadedAaron, on Flickr

29erUSA187 · Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:10 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 9):

I didnt know Saudia had any more 777's on order! I assume this is at PAE?

On a side note, I was in PAE over the summer (Aug. 28-30) and went on the factory tour. (There were hardly any 777's visible on those dates, most were hidden from sight behind the flightline, the only one in plain sight was an ET 77F) I saw the newest AA 77W in the factory, an CX 77W behind it, and an EK 77W behind CX. I have not heard anything about CX recieving a new 777, yet I assume that the EK one was delivered/painted. Was this CX A/c delivered?

Stitch · Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:14 pm

Quoting 29erUSA187 (Reply 10):
Was this CX A/c delivered?

CX has taken delivery of 8 777-300ERs this year:

18-Apr-2014
24-Jun-2014
10-Jul-2014
11-Aug-2014
26-Aug-2014
07-Oct-2014
23-Oct-2014
25-Nov-2014

Miami · Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:28 pm

Quoting 29erUSA187 (Reply 10):
I assume this is at PAE?

Sure is.

www.flightaware.com/live/flight/HZAK24

boefan · Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:33 pm

4 more B77W will be delivered before year end

L/N 1260 B-2009 777-31B(ER) China Southern Airlines
L/N 1261 A6-ENX 777-31H(ER) Emirates
L/N 1262 HZ-AK24 777-368(ER) Saudi Arabian Airlines
L/N 1263 B-KQU 777-367(ER) Cathay Pacific

all have made customer flights and are ready for handover

nikeson13 · Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:38 pm

Quoting boefan (Reply 1):
i have created a long time ago a production table .If you like you can check it out

I love the charts! Awesome work. I looked at the whole thing and saw that A6-ENV for Emirates stood out with 12 flight tests compared to the 5 fight tests average. Why may it have so many flights? Testing? Pre-delivery problems?

seabosdca · Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:21 pm

Quoting Karadion (Reply 5):
The 777-9X is a stretch of the 77W but does that make it the base model of the 777X family?

The "baseline" model of the 777 family is really the 777-200A - everything else is either a stretch, increased weights, or both from there.

If you're looking strictly at the 777X I think you'd have to call the -8 a stretch and the -9 a double (or triple, if you include the -300) stretch.

But that's not how they'll sell. The -9 will be the big seller, and the -8 a niche aircraft. So in the market they're behaving more like the -9 is the baseline and the -8 is a shrink.

777X · Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:53 am

Ok, let me start off by saying that I have been watching here for about two years, and you guys have taught me pretty much everything I know about aviation.

The reason I signed up today is because this morning before this thread was started, I was thinking, "Wouldn't that be great if there was a 777 production thread?" So here I am.

Thanks for everything and keep up the good work guys!

29erUSA187 · Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:59 am

Quoting 777X (Reply 16):

Welcome to A.net! They seem to be adding new members at quite the rate lately

Miami · Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:00 am

Quoting 777X (Reply 16):

Welcome! I hope you enjoy being part of the forums!

Nice username by the way!

CX Flyboy · Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:38 am

I believe B-KQU is due for delivery 19th Dec.

BravoEchoNov · Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:19 am

I love the idea of this thread... maybe someone can jumpstart an A330 one as well.

Miami · Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:29 am

Quoting BravoEchoNov (Reply 20):
maybe someone can jumpstart an A330 one as well.

You mean like this? Official A330 Production/Flight Testing (by 29erUSA187 Dec 18 2014 in Civil Aviation)

29erUSA187 · Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:39 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 21):

Thank you all for the replies on both of these threads. From the day I joined A.net, I found it strange that there wasn't a thread dedicated to either plane.

boefan · Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:42 am

Quoting boefan (Reply 6):
Thai Airways HS-TKX L/N 1267 will be ferried to VCV for painting today

pics of departure

HS-TKX Thai Airways International Boeing 777-3D7(ER) - C/N 42113 / LN 1267 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

HS-TKX Thai Airways International Boeing 777-3D7(ER) - C/N 42113 / LN 1267 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

you can also see the Saudi Arabian Cargo B77F HZ-AK71 in short term storage

Miami · Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:10 pm

Emirates ( A6-ENX ) 777-300ER departs on a short test flight

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWBPM1kqyuU

boefan · Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:46 pm

L/N 1260 B-2009 777-31B(ER) China Southern Airlines has beed delivered and will fly to Tianjin today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CSN1

L/N 1261 A6-ENX 777-31H(ER) Emirates has been delivered and will fly to Dudai today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAE7777

L/N 1263 B-KQU 777-367(ER) Cathay Pacific has been delivered and will fly to Hong Kong today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA3339

The777Man · Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:32 pm

Quoting boefan (Reply 25):
L/N 1260 B-2009 777-31B(ER) China Southern Airlines has beed delivered and will fly to Tianjin today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CSN1

L/N 1261 A6-ENX 777-31H(ER) Emirates has been delivered and will fly to Dudai today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAE7777

L/N 1263 B-KQU 777-367(ER) Cathay Pacific has been delivered and will fly to Hong Kong today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA3339

Nice!

Any chance for more deliveries this year ? SV ?

Thanks !

The777Man

karadion · Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:51 pm

Construction of the Everett Composite Wing Center (40-27) has started which is where all 777X wing manufacturing will take place. It will be 1.2 million square feet. They expect to have the building done by August 2015.

In similar news, St. Louis also started construction on their Composite Center which will provide empennage parts and other parts for the 777X wing. St. Louis will have 6 autoclaves and is going to be 367,000 square feet.

boefan · Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:00 am

Quoting boefan (Reply 25):
L/N 1261 A6-ENX 777-31H(ER) Emirates has been delivered and will fly to Dudai today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...E7777

A6-ENX Emirates Boeing 777-31H(ER) - C/N 42318 / LN 1261 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

Quoting boefan (Reply 25):
L/N 1263 B-KQU 777-367(ER) Cathay Pacific has been delivered and will fly to Hong Kong today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA3339

B-KQU Cathay Pacific Boeing 777-367(ER) - C/N 42145 / LN 1263 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

boefan · Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:08 am

Quoting boefan (Reply 25):
L/N 1260 B-2009 777-31B(ER) China Southern Airlines has beed delivered and will fly to Tianjin today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CSN1

http://paineairport.com/kpae10845.htm

and China Southern Cargo B-2010 L/N 1268 returning from a B1 test flight

http://paineairport.com/kpae10844.htm

boefan · Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:09 pm

L/N 1262 HZ-AK24 777-368(ER) Saudi Arabian Airlines has been delivered and already departed to JED

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SVA9024

boefan · Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:15 am

Quoting boefan (Reply 30):
L/N 1262 HZ-AK24 777-368(ER) Saudi Arabian Airlines has been delivered

Departure photo of the aircraft

HZ-AK24 Saudi Arabian Airlines Boeing 777-368(ER) - C/N 42262 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:17 am

SQ LN 1266 out of paint:

9V-SWZ Singapore Airlines Boeing 777-312(ER) - C/N 42239 / LN 1266 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

boefan · Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:20 am

China Airlines Boeing 777-36N(ER) B-18055 L/N 1265 returning from portland after paint

http://paineairport.com/kpae10856.htm

29erUSA187 · Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:24 am

Quoting boefan (Reply 33):

Wow! I keep forgetting how nice the 77W looks in that CI livery!

Miami · Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:35 pm

China Southern 777F B-2010 was ferried to Portland for painting.

Miami · Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:37 pm

Saudi Arabian Airlines 777 HZ-AK25 back from a B1 flight.

vegas005 · Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:16 pm

Quoting boefan (Reply 1):
i have created a long time ago a production table .If you like you can check it out
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/c...kw2a2Y1cWZSWEE&usp=drive_web#gid=5

Really awesome charts!! Where and when does Swiss fall into the schedule?

TC957 · Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:06 am

I don't think Swiss will get their 77W's until 2016, so I doubt l/n's have been allocated yet.

The777Man · Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:54 am

I heard from a friend that Swiss is getting their first one in January 2016 so about a year away. It will very soon be allocated a L/N since that's done about a year before delivery.

Unfortuneatly, I don't have access to L/Ns for 777s that far in advance.......

The777Man

Caryjack · Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:17 am

Quoting 29erUSA187 (Thread starter):
I was inspired by the current 787/747 threads to start this thread, dedicated to the production of the 777.

Thanks 29erUSA187. You're not the first to be inspired by Big Foot.

I think it's the most incredible airliner in the air. Thanks for the thread.

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 15):
Quoting Karadion (Reply 5):
The 777-9X is a stretch of the 77W but does that make it the base model of the 777X family?

The "baseline" model of the 777 family is really the 777-200A - everything else is either a stretch, increased weights, or both from there.

Nicely put, and in 1 sentence: A definitive statement of the subject.

Quoting 777X (Reply 16):
Ok, let me start off by saying that I have been watching here for about two years, and you guys have taught me pretty much everything I know about aviation.

You are not alone. I'm sure there are many of us who learn much, if not nearly all, about aviation on this site.
Thanks,

Cary

boefan · Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:44 pm

So flight testing begins again after the holidays

Thai Airways HS-TKX L/N 1267 will return from VCV after paint

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE444

trex8 · Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:20 pm

Is it purely random as to where they get painted or do certain liveries require a certain center, I'm thinking if its all paint vs lots of stickers etc.

TC957 · Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:39 pm

I believe Boeing outsources the aircraft painting work to whichever centers have the capability to undertake the work in the time frame required when they can't do it themselves at PAE.

TXspotter · Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:45 pm

Planespotters.net lists the line numbers but it has skipped 1264 and 1266. Wouldn't they have those listed if line numbers after those two are already in test flights?

boefan · Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:53 pm

Quoting TXspotter (Reply 44):

Those 2 have yet to do a B1 test flight . L/N 1264 is going to be the first B777 freighter for Saudi Arabian Airlines and L/N 1266 will go to Singapore airlines . Planespotters is following a blog to monitor the production list that post's when an aircraft has flown a B1 or delivered . So not entirely accurate

Use this link will help you see the production list :
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/c...kw2a2Y1cWZSWEE&usp=drive_web#gid=5

kanban · Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:16 am

Note that line 1264 is without engines.. so it won't be flying soon. on the Paine Field page, http://kpae.blogspot.com the last flight line shot shows two 777's at the back of the lot in short term storage..

Quoting boefan (Reply 45):

did that link get truncated? I'm getting a 'no such page'..

boefan · Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:23 am

http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/l...WZSWEE&f=true&noheader=false&gid=5

Sorry link changed see if this works

boefan · Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:36 am

Quoting boefan (Reply 41):
Thai Airways HS-TKX L/N 1267 will return from VCV after paint

HS-TKX Thai Airways International Boeing 777-3D7(ER) - C/N 42113 / LN 1267 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

hilram · Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:22 pm

Quoting Karadion (Reply 5):
I have a question that I haven't really found anywhere even though searches may be eluding me.The 777-9X is a stretch of the 77W but does that make it the base model of the 777X family? After all, the 777-9X is 8-9 feet longer (depends on who you're reading it from) from the 77W but the 777-8X is 14 feet shorter than the 77W. Boeing has a huge backlog for the 777-9X which all signs points to that the 8X will take place several years after FA, rollout, flight testings of the 9X occurs.So with that:777-8X shrink777-9X base777-10X stretch if offered?OR777-8X base777-9X stretch777-10X double stretch again if ever offered.

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 15):
The "baseline" model of the 777 family is really the 777-200A - everything else is either a stretch, increased weights, or both from there. If you're looking strictly at the 777X I think you'd have to call the -8 a stretch and the -9 a double (or triple, if you include the -300) stretch.But that's not how they'll sell. The -9 will be the big seller, and the -8 a niche aircraft. So in the market they're behaving more like the -9 is the baseline and the -8 is a shrink.

I think it is safe to assume that the new 777-X wing will be optimized for the 777-9, since that is the more popular model. In that case, the 777-8 should be considered a shrink. Right?

[Edited 2015-01-03 04:22:36]

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