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What's Next For ATL

Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:41 pm

What new carriers (both domestic and int'l) could we see at ATL in the coming years? I know that QR said a year or so back that they wanted to launch DOH-ATL with 787s.

Would a dedicated ATL thread make any sense? Similar to the CLE thread?
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:47 pm

I was actually wondering why neither Spirit or Frontier yet fly ATL-LAS, and in general why the ULCCs have small presences in ATL still.

The ATL-LAS fare that I was looking into late January was $150-153 one-way on Southwest and Delta, while I compared BWI-LAS and IAD-LAS have fares under $100 one-way. I'd think ATL being closer to LAS but still a large enough market would prompt one or both of the ULCCs to get into stimulating lower fares on this route?

Also often discussed on a.net is when JetBlue will start BOS-ATL. Maybe next year?

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RE: What's Next For ATL

Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:20 pm

NK did briefly fly ATL-LAS years ago but it did not last too long. This was when the focus was on the FLL hub. Now Silver and PEOPLExpress are gone so even fewer carriers serving ATL. It is nice to see VS expand to eventually 3 daily flights to ATL (2xLHR and 1xMAN). Not sure if AM is still flying...seems that they have come and gone about 15 times!   QR and TK have both stated interest but nothing firm.
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:56 pm

Maybe AZ could come to ATL. Also I think B6 will eventually come back with service to JFK and BOS.
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:28 pm

I think ATL is one of the biggest glaring holes in the US market to the ME3. Its a matter of time before one comes to ATL and DTW.
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:58 pm

Quoting rtalk25 (Reply 1):
Also often discussed on a.net is when JetBlue will start BOS-ATL. Maybe next year?

I'm actually more surprised that B6 hasn't started ATL-FLL yet. Seems to me like they could fill a plane or two every day just connecting people to Caribbean that way.
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:39 am

I know that VN wants to start flights to the US. If they do, could ATL be a potential destination being a Skyteam hub?
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:09 am

I know for sure that Avianca has ATL in its middle term planned destinations. My guess is that they'll serve it from Bogotá when AV's NEOS start coming in
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:14 am

Quoting 777X (Thread starter):

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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:16 am

Quoting 777X (Reply 6):

No, I cannot see that route ever working. Much more likely to be US west coast such as LAX or SEA. My $$$ goes with LAX.
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:29 am

Quoting DL747400 (Reply 9):

I definitely don't see VN adding ATL. If they are to add service to the U.S., I would put my money on SFO first, then LAX second.
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:43 am

Due to the ever expanding movie industry in Atlanta, I would not be surprise if United starts a LAX-ATL to get those high paying workers and stars who commutes back and forth between the two cities for movie productions.
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:50 am

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 4):
I think ATL is one of the biggest glaring holes in the US market to the ME3. Its a matter of time before one comes to ATL and DTW.

Why? It's not like there's particularly strong O&D to the MidE (e.g. NYC or LAX) nor to South Asia (DFW) nor Big Oil (IAH) nor cargo (SEA).

And DL already has a nonstop.

What'd be the big draw to them for ATL?
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:59 am

Quoting SLCSFOPDX (Reply 10):

Just wishful thinking more than seriousness.

But what about VX? They could start some LAX-ATL flights, couldn't they? What about DAL-ATL?

Emirates and Qatar do have a cargo presence in ATL. Does that make a difference when starting pax flights? Pardon my ignorance, I'm new here.
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:22 am

I'm surprised we haven't seen AZ after all these years. What about G4? Could see them serving LAS or LAX, or perhaps MCO.
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:44 am

ATL doesn't seem like the airport that G4 would want to enter. If they were to enter an "Atlanta area" airport then I could see AHN added to G4's network.
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:28 am

Delta saturates ATL with its presence. That being said, other carriers (mainly foreign ones) cannot compete with the the huge hub that Delta controls, mainly because there are no onward connections. Atlanta in itself is not a huge local market to places such as the Middle East or East Asia, so Emirates or Qatar might struggle. SkyTeam airlines such as KLM, Air France, and Korean Air serve ATL because of their relationship with Delta, which offer vast onward connection opportunities on both ends. Not every SkyTeam carrier will serve ATL; if that were the case, every Star carrier would serve DEN, ORD, or SFO, etc., only the larger ones do. There simply isn't enough traffic to go around for other carriers to set up shop at ATL with Delta covering pretty much all of the demand. As far as domestic expansion, I think Spirit and Frontier will continue to add destinations here and there as I think there is a local LCC market in Atlanta, especially after AirTran's abdication.
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:17 am

I know there is a plan for a 6th runway in between the new one in between 10/28 and 9/27 as well as a terminal. Not sure how long before they start that project. I would like to see South African return, maybe a cape town flight.
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:36 am

Quoting SLCSFOPDX (Reply 15):

ATL doesn't seem like the airport that G4 would want to enter. If they were to enter an "Atlanta area" airport then I could see AHN added to G4's network.

Unfortunately, AHN is too far to be considered "Atlanta Area". It's a cumbersome 1h25m drive airport-to-airport and involves lots of lights and slow traffic. There used to be flights between the cities for a long time on Georgia Skies (Pacific Wings), but then the EAS contract went to SeaPort with service to BNA. An expansion of the CHA flying to LAS would be a stretch for G4 as they have yet to connect their western cities to many places in the Eastern time zone, but that might be the closest we see to an "ATL-area" expansion from them.
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:02 pm

G4 wants to start PDK, but there's some legal problems going on with that, aren't there?
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:39 pm

Quoting mark2fly1034 (Reply 17):

I know there is a plan for a 6th runway in between the new one in between 10/28 and 9/27 as well as a terminal.

I'm beginning to wonder if ATL is running out of room. They shove I-285 any further south and it might as well be a belt around Macon!

(If anyone starts a similar thread about DFW and I'll ask the same question there   )
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:24 pm

ATL actually has some O&D to sustain flights year around.

But probably not enough for A380.
 
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RE: What's Next For ATL

Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:19 pm

Quoting 777X (Reply 19):
G4 wants to start PDK, but there's some legal problems going on with that, aren't there?

PDK does not have a central terminal. There are charter operations offered by Southern Airways Express, but they use an FBO. The infrastructure would need to be built for G4 to come into PDK and offer scheduled operations, and that decision would take years. A number of interested parties would likely block the move.

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