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Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:00 am

Hello all and a very happy, healthy and successful to all of our Irish contingent - and all the visitors to our threads. May all your landings be smooth and right side up.

Anyway, 2014 has been another year of positive developments in Irish aviation, with passenger numbers in a generally upward direction. Just to pick out a few highlights of the year:

- New transatlantic routes at Shannon and expansion by FR (though, unfortunately, withdrawal by EIR).
- Second daily Emirates to Dublin and twice daily Turkish from next year, as well as our first regular scheduled service to Africa, also from next year.
- New transatlantic routes announced at DUB, for this year and 2015 too ... Aer Lingus to Washington, United to Chicago and perhaps most exciting of all, Ethiopian 787s to LAX.
- IAG showing interest in EI shareholding, though FR still holding on ... for now
- New FR order for 737-800s and 737MAX
- Increased competition on several routes, but particularly LCY, where Cityjet now competes with BA and Flybe
- New minister for Transport, with a hard act to follow. Leo Varadkar is a hard act to follow. We still await the new aviation policy announcement

So, lots to look forward to next year and hopefully Cork will find its mojo again and return to growth ... and Waterford will find a new scheduled service. What else can we look forward to next year?

- Several new t/a flights from both Shannon and Dublin
- New aviation policy
- An election at home; will aviation figure in the manifestos? Hardly likely, but we can hope!
- Might increasing traffic lead to planning for the new runway or terminal expansion at DUB to be re-started? Might we even see a decision being made about the rail link from the city to Dublin Airport?
- Some new aircraft types perhaps? Hopefully Etihad's 787-9s will grace our skies, maybe even EK committing to an A380 service to Dublin?
- Might QR take a look at Dublin, even for a cargo route?
- Our first Chinese route, at last?
- More fifth freedom rights for other carriers, leading to new T/a routes?

However, when we look across the world - to Malaysia in particular, we can take comfort in something which we often take for granted here ... safety. Once again, Irish carriers - and indeed, foreign carriers to Ireland - have completed a year without loss, injury, write-offs or fatalities. Above all else, let's hope that this - the most important record of all - can be maintained during 2015.

To you all, a very happy new year and here's to many more happy.interesting and entertaining Irish aviation threads! (Here's the link to the last thread: Irish 13/14: Flying Into '15! (by kaitak Dec 9 2014 in Civil Aviation))
 
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:31 am

Happy New Year 2015

Lots of positive things this year. Projected inbound tourism forecasts are also promising.

Something that I can't remember if posted or not but IAG have bought a small stake in Aer Lingus.

REG-BARCLAYS PLC FORM 38.5 (b) - AER LINGUS GROUP PLC
IRISH TAKEOVER PANEL
DISCLOSURE UNDER RULE 38.5(b) OF THE IRISH TAKEOVER PANEL ACT, 1997, TAKEOVER RULES, 2013

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...plc-idUSnBw295142a+100+BSW20141229

Interesting year ahead for Aer Lingus I feel.
 
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:21 am

Just seen the EK 161 go around on approach to 16; strong winds?
 
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:08 pm

Anyone know what's become of EI-DAA? WFU? Parked temporarily? Major overhaul? I've been on this plane a few times between Boston and Dublin and was just curious.
 
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Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:15 pm

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 3):

It's doing the Novair winter lease this year - flying long haul charters from Scandinavia.
 
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Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:52 pm

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 3):
Anyone know what's become of EI-DAA? WFU? Parked temporarily? Major overhaul? I've been on this plane a few times between Boston and Dublin and was just curious.

Last night it flew TAB-ARN.

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Families from around the country are already crowding into Dublin airport to bid farewell to loved ones, ahead of the expected New Year exodus in the coming days.
Official estimates from Dublin Airport Authority predict that Friday, January 2nd, will be the busiest day of the post-Christmas season. But there was already plenty of emotion on show in the Terminal 2 departure lounge as emigrants and their families commenced the march through the gates, away from friends and family, from home.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/tearf...s-emigrants-bid-farewell-1.2051384

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Twitter gag about 'EMOTIONAL baggage' is lost on Ryanair

RYANAIR was sent into a tailspin yesterday after it failed to spot that a Twitter complaint about charges for "EMOTIONAL baggage" was a joke.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/549...tter-gag-Ryanair-emotional-baggage

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Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:40 pm

Happy New Year all. May 2015 be a good one for you all. Flew back to the BRS this morning via SNN with EIR on EI-REH. It was another great flight. Everything was on time and all ground crew and air crew were amazing. I'm going to miss this this link home, but I suppose I'll still have BRS-ORK.

EI-REH was painted in Stobart air livery and colour scheme. When did this happen, I though all aircraft were painted in EIR colours?
 
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Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:55 pm

In the hope that this is on topic - Went through T2 in LHR over Christmas. Wow! 35 minutes to board caused mainly by he face recognition gizmo at the gate coupled with large bag syndrome. Lounge is better with bery inadequate food offerings and the showers are really just token - bad water pressure, flimsy towels and a shower cubicle with nowhere to put the shampoo, shower gel etc. Obviously fitted out by someone who prefers baths!
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Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:20 pm

Quoting nu (Reply 7):
In the hope that this is on topic - Went through T2 in LHR over Christmas. Wow! 35 minutes to board caused mainly by he face recognition gizmo at the gate coupled with large bag syndrome. Lounge is better with bery inadequate food offerings and the showers are really just token - bad water pressure, flimsy towels and a shower cubicle with nowhere to put the shampoo, shower gel etc. Obviously fitted out by someone who prefers baths!

Sigh - Aer Lingus really never do lounges terribly well. It's always the minimum they can get away with!
 
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:53 pm

Two tech problems involving acft at DUB today: a BOS-LHR 767, Delta 63, diverted to DUB early this morning; it left at around 11.20. (It was a 763).

Also, the early Etihad encountered a technical issue resulting in an aborted takeoff at about 9.20am. Acft returned to stand and left at c.12.40, arriving at AUH c.4h late.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/t...jets-at-dublin-airport-656460.html
 
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Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:28 pm

Anyone knows why the flight to Isle of Man was cancelled today? I almost booked that one, but opted for the Belfast City flight with a Let 410 later on!
 
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Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:52 pm

Quoting ALexeu (Reply 10):

Strong winds in Dublin today, a few go arounds involving EK & EY happened earlier on. Both landed safely on their 2nd attempt.

Happy new year to everyone, itching to find out what 2015 has in store.
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Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:05 pm

Aer Lingus shares rise on talk of renewed IAG bid

Shares in Aer Lingus jumped more than 3pc within an hour of the stock market closing yesterday amid rumours that British Airways' owner IAG had increased its bid for the Irish carrier.

The Aer Lingus shares ended the trading in Dublin at €2.30, giving the airline a market capitalisation of €1.22bn.

There have been rumours that IAG, which is headed by former Aer Lingus chief executive and pilot Willie Walsh, may now have indicated to Aer Lingus that it's prepared to pay between €2.40 and €2.60 a share for the Irish airline.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...k-of-renewed-iag-bid-30878537.html


Will certainly be interesting to see how the story develops!
 
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Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:54 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWg7IpphPc8

Doing the rounds on facebook at the minute. A little bit of a "discussion" at DUB.
 
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Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:04 pm

Quoting Jambost (Reply 11):

There always seems to be strong winds in Dublin. Never a diversion up here and we gets winds up to 80mph quite often.
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:49 pm

Quoting RandWKOP (Reply 13):

Interesting to say the least, I do get that taxi times from pier B to rwy 28 are pretty short, ive often heard of pilots finishing off their checklists while lining up on 28, never mind on E1! I think it was just one of those days @ DUB, when it's busy it's BUSY, and the exact opposite the rest of the time.
However, IMO the BA pilot(s) professionalism in this case should be questioned, they were instructed to vacate E1 to 34 after stalling the controller numerous times! You are either ready or not, you cannot be fully ready as they said and yet still be completing checklists! They were lucky she let them go!  
Having said all that.... maybe this sort of thing happens all the time, just this time it was caught on Live ATC..
They joys of aviation..   

[Edited 2015-01-03 13:01:00]
 
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Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:32 pm

Quoting SuperSix2 (Reply 15):
Interesting to say the least, I do get that taxi times from pier B to rwy 28 are pretty short, ive often heard of pilots finishing off their checklists while lining up on 28, never mind on E1! I think it was just one of those days @ DUB, when it's busy it's BUSY, and the exact opposite the rest of the time.
However, IMO the BA pilot(s) professionalism in this case should be questioned, they were instructed to vacate E1 to 34 after stalling the controller numerous times! You are either ready or not, you cannot be fully ready as they said and yet still be completing checklists! They were lucky she let them go!
Having said all that.... maybe this sort of thing happens all the time, just this time it was caught on Live ATC..
They joys of aviation..

I think the Facebook page was a bit OTT in saying the BA crew was rude; they were certainly unprofessional; they would not do this at LHR. Can you imagine asking the LHR Ground frequency; "sorry, we're not ready, can we wait a moment?!"

Yes, they had not finished, but they should have factored in the short distance and made sure they were ready to go when they were cleared to line up.

They should have vacated when instructed to do so.
 
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Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:01 pm

Very unprofessional by the BA crew and not handled well by them at all. The phone call they have to make on landing at Heathrow is serious and something normally reserved for private pilots who do not know better - a Speedbird crew causing issues on a busy day at Dublin will have a bit of explaining to do!

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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:40 am

Quoting pilot21 (Reply 17):
The phone call they have to make on landing at Heathrow is serious and something normally reserved for private pilots who do not know better - a Speedbird crew causing issues on a busy day at Dublin will have a bit of explaining to do!

Does anyone know the outcome? Would this be a fireable offence or back to training?
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:54 am

Quoting cipango (Reply 18):
Does anyone know the outcome? Would this be a fireable offence or back to training?

Very much doubt if it would be a firing offence; after all, no one died and no damage to the plane; it's probably just a ticking off, maybe a note on the personnel file, but nothing career threatening.
 
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Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:15 pm

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 14):

Meteorology is not a specialised subject of mine, so I would guess DUB is more exposed to the elements compared to BFS. I do remember in the past that BFS was disrupted by fog causing an inbound LS from LBA to divert to BHD. Passengers from BFS were shuttled down the road to BHD.

When mother nature is involved no airport will escape bad weather.
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:09 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 16):
I think the Facebook page was a bit OTT in saying the BA crew was rude; they were certainly unprofessional; they would not do this at LHR. Can you imagine asking the LHR Ground frequency; "sorry, we're not ready, can we wait a moment?!"

Totally agree. You need to take some of those comments with a pinch of salt just like Twitter etc... Your summing up is pretty spot on.

The title of the YT video is also OTT and most likely more about getting the hits than being factual !
 
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:32 pm

Quoting Jambost (Reply 20):

Well it is mine and I don't think Dublin gets more extreme weather than NW Northern Ireland.

My nearest weather station, the met office magilligan station records at least 70mph gusts multiple times a year.

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Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:57 pm

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 22):

While weather is similar there has being a number of times in 2014 which severe weather and strong winds have impacted at DUB and most coastal airports. Belfast is inland which guards it slightly form the elements.

Worth nothing that as DUB is much busier compared to Belfast airports and any minor disruption will result in lots of aircraft holding and aircraft will take longer to land and fuel becomes a problem.
 
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Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:07 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 25):

Never took into account that the amount of aircraft could impact it.
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:40 pm

On a lighter note....
Any plans by Qatar to fly into DUB? apart from the odd paintshop visits...

Have they ever flown into DUB?

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Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:43 pm

Just in regards to BFS and DUB. There is a 30 degree difference in relation to runway orientations, and this may make a big difference. Also BHD has a even bigger difference and the winds may be perfect for these orientations.

About the EI prepay meal. Last summer I was on the first flight to LGW and I got the breakfast as a prepay. Id say I was one of 5-7. Our food was delivered first. Id definitely pay for the service again anyway...

Happy new year to all. Its being ages since I posted, but I do look in everyday...

Also here is some FR news I did not see being mentioned (who says all we talk about is EI!). Their Pilots are getting IPADS, therefore going paperless... Good move for them. Sorry I wanted a better news source but its late....

http://www.thejournal.ie/ryanair-pilots-ipad-1804626-Nov2014/

[Edited 2015-01-04 15:53:20]
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Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:46 pm

Quoting f1eddie (Reply 32):

Thank you  
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:46 am

Good news from FR and a good increase in LF.

Ryanair has reported a 20% rise in passenger numbers for December.

The airline said it carried 6.02 million passengers last month compared to 5.02 million in December 2013.

Ryanair's load factor - or how many seats it fills on each flight - also increased to 88% from 81% last month.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2015/0105/670357-ryanair-stats/

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On another note Links Air have suspended the BHD-DSA route for January while an aircraft goes for an important maintanance check. It says its due back on the route in February but nothing bookable. The one that had the landing gear incident the same day I flew it G-GAVA never seemed to operate again from what I can see.
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:45 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 28):

Congratulations to Ryanair. Won't be long till they reach 100 million.
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:12 pm

Ch aviation have confirmed that EI will lease an Omni 767-200 for the SNN-BOS route. Will be great to have the extra capacity this year from SNN. Now if we could only see it in EI colours!
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:43 pm

Quoting SURFER (Reply 30):
Ch aviation have confirmed that EI will lease an Omni 767-200 for the SNN-BOS route. Will be great to have the extra capacity this year from SNN. Now if we could only see it in EI colours!

It's interesting to note that they also add that bringing in the 762 was a result of the cancellation of the plan to bring A330-200 EI-EWR back in to the fleet.

The Summer '15 schedule with added SFO/MCO frequencies and the new IAD route can hardly be achieved with the current 7 A330s? AFAIK the A330 schedules were already very tight last summer.
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:43 pm

Quoting SURFER (Reply 30):
Ch aviation have confirmed that EI will lease an Omni 767-200 for the SNN-BOS route. Will be great to have the extra capacity this year from SNN. Now if we could only see it in EI colours!

As reported last year, it's only for a few weeks.
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:44 pm

According to Irish Air Letter, the Omni 767 was supposed to free up the 757 to operate the EI102/103 early service to New York. The A330 EI-EWR was to join the fleet to open up IAD and for extra frequencies on SFO (up to a daily service) and MCO (up to four times per week). A rumour (note that word) I heard was that EI have sourced an additional A330-300 and will not take up EWR now as the extra capacity of the -300 is needed on some routes.

In addition rumour (there's that word again) has it that four A320s are due to join the fleet later on. It is said that they are Air France aircraft and will be used to replace CVA-C and for expansion. I think DEI is also coming back for Summer 15. If these rumours are proven true, then EIs fleet for Jun-Aug 2015 could look something like this:

3x B757-200
1x B767-200
8x A330 (definitely 4X A330-300; 3x A330-200 and one TBA)
4x A319
3x A321
34x A320 (of which 3 will be flying for Little Red)
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:53 pm

Quoting bx737 (Reply 33):
If these rumours are proven true, then EIs fleet for Jun-Aug 2015 could look something like this:

Did you hear anything about the 319's leaving the fleet?
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:04 pm

According to the September Analyst presentation (available on corporate.aerlingus.com) that there will be three A319s in 2016 and they are to be fully phased out by 2017. The presentation also shows an additional A321 in 2016 and a fourth 757/ narrow body long haul aircraft.

I have heard no rumours about getting rid of the A319s before that though.
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:06 pm

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 32):
As reported last year, it's only for a few weeks.

The article says the lease contract runs from 8th June to 30th December 2015.

http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/ne...ni-air-for-b767-lease-requirements

I really hope it is painted in EI colours.

[Edited 2015-01-05 08:07:31]
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:15 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 36):
I really hope it is painted in EI colours.

I'd say the only chance of it being painted is if there is a plan to repeat the lease over 2-3 summer seasons, similar to what they did with the World MD11 lease.
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:41 pm

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 37):

N234ax is currently operating for Bolivia de aviacon and has been partially painted in their colours the tail and engines with the fuselage keeping the Omni grey, so maybe we will see something similar with EI shamrock tail and titles perhaps.
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:04 pm

Quoting SURFER (Reply 38):
N234ax is currently operating for Bolivia de aviacon and has been partially painted in their colours the tail and engines with the fuselage keeping the Omni grey, so maybe we will see something similar with EI shamrock tail and titles perhaps.

That would do fine. I think the flight crew will be OY - what about the cabin crew?
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:09 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 39):

Havent heard anything yet but I would think EI cabin crew from the SNN base.

Transaero engineering SNN have had an interim examiner appointed by the high Court this evening. Hopefully they can turn things around.
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:17 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 31):
It's interesting to note that they also add that bringing in the 762 was a result of the cancellation of the plan to bring A330-200 EI-EWR back in to the fleet.

Err no.

B767 is to offer extra capacity during the busy peak season out of SNN.
This also "free's up" a SNN based B757 to operate the early morning DUB-JFK.
MSN 330 will return to EI in May to allow the extra frequencies on MCO and SFO.

S15 schedule requires 8 A330's, with only 2 days per week with only 7 departures.
 
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:53 pm

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 41):
Err no.

B767 is to offer extra capacity during the busy peak season out of SNN.
This also "free's up" a SNN based B757 to operate the early morning DUB-JFK.
MSN 330 will return to EI in May to allow the extra frequencies on MCO and SFO.

S15 schedule requires 8 A330's, with only 2 days per week with only 7 departures.

According to CH Aviation, ''the Irish carrier will lease either N225AX (msn 30434) or N234AX (msn 30436) to cover the drop in capacity brought on by the cancellation of plan to bring back A330-200 EI-EWR (cn 330) into the fleet.''

http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/ne...ni-air-for-b767-lease-requirements


Concur with your opinion of the situation however, I assume CH Aviation have simply made a mistake in the above report. There would definitely need to be an extra A330 coming from somewhere to operate the transatlantic flights which are in the schedule.


The mentioning of the cancellation of EI-EWR plans however may add more weight to the above mentioned rumor that

Quoting bx737 (Reply 33):
EI have sourced an additional A330-300
instead of the A330-200.

[Edited 2015-01-05 09:57:12]
 
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:30 pm

Quoting bx737 (Reply 35):
According to the September Analyst presentation (available on corporate.aerlingus.com) that there will be three A319s in 2016 and they are to be fully phased out by 2017. The presentation also shows an additional A321 in 2016 and a fourth 757/ narrow body long haul aircraft.

Pity to see them go; nice aircraft, but I guess the CASM is the driving factor; same with the A333 replacing the A332. I wonder where that A333 is coming from, if confirmed? Doesn't one of the Libyan carriers have brand new A333s at TLS, which are not being taken up because of the, ahem, "unrest" in Libya. (It really is a TIP!)

Quoting bx737 (Reply 35):
I have heard no rumours about getting rid of the A319s before that though.

I was hoping that they might increase the A319 fleet, to bridge the gap between the ATR72 and A320, but clearly not!
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:49 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 43):
Pity to see them go; nice aircraft,

Yes it added some variation to the fleet. Quite like them and been on them many times.
 
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:53 pm

The A319 are a lovely fleet addition for us enthusiasts but those ex IB birds are dreadful past row 6 for legroom. Less comfortable than FR 738s.

As an aside, two A330s (DUO , EAV) headed down to BOD today for their check ups and presumably installation of their new thrones.
 
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:59 pm

Ryanair planes ARE comfortable I don't know what that comparison was about. It is Easyjet that are uncomfortable!!
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:53 pm

Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 45):
The A319 are a lovely fleet addition for us enthusiasts but those ex IB birds are dreadful past row 6 for legroom. Less comfortable than FR 738s.

I know a few people say that but it very much depends on the persons build etc.. I don't think I would want them on longer sectors but short hops over to the UK are fine. Same with FR but I would certainly not go FR without an exit row for the likes of DUB-Canaries and I have flown that route a few times with FR. The A320s of EI are fine for 4 hours though in a standard seat.
 
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:55 pm

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 46):
Ryanair planes ARE comfortable I don't know what that comparison was about. It is Easyjet that are uncomfortable!

The comparison was with ex-IB A319 and there terrible leg room. Just beacuse YOU don't understand does not mean the comment is irrelevant. Please don't derail another forum with your self righteous opinions.
 
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RE: Irish 1/15: Brave New World

Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:57 pm

Quoting Frostyj (Reply 46):

  

Have to disagree here. I would take an A32X over a 737 any day! That garish yellow is super harsh on the eyes, it in itself puts me off FR!

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