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B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:32 pm

Seasonal service starts in June. Supposedly a new city will open out West. To be announced soon.


http://investor.jetblue.com/phoenix....1045&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2004935


Good to see some west coast love from this east coast airline!
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:22 pm

Sounds Bizarre to me. Moving in on AS turf, maybe they think they have bigger fires to fight in SEA and they think they can grab some summer money without much fight?
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:37 pm

AS has an entire monopoly on this route. It runs 3 or 4x daily during the summer and fares are usually high. DL flew this route in the late 90s and then CO picked it up for awhile. I think B6 found a nice little seasonal niche. It seems many of the additions lately have been seasonal ones.
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:02 pm

Does that mean B6 will be flying both SEA-ANC and PDX-ANC during S15?
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:06 pm

Nice add, never saw this one coming.
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:14 pm

There are no less than ten television shows about Alaska on various channels about Alaska. The state seems to have a lot of interest not only from the lower 48 but from around the globe.

As an Alaskan I get asked often about the state and cruises all the time. One guy even asked me if there is grass (sod) in Alaska. The best advise I can provide for drivers and campers or combi fly and drive who want to visit the state is to buy an annual copy of the Alaska Milepost. Its the best $35 dollar you can spend.
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:16 pm

What I do find interesting, as with SEA, these flights do not connect with the JFK hub. But do provide connections to BOS.

Albeit, the BOS conenction stinks thru PDX. Flight gets in ungodly early to PDX.

So the only way to get from JFK to ANC is a connection in LGB!

I also continue to find it interesting that PDX is served 2x from BOS this summer and 1x from JFK.

They did this last summer too. I would think the competition is worse on the BOS route with AS and the much smaller city on the BOS end would make the reverse frequency better.
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:42 pm

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 5):
As an Alaskan I get asked often about the state and cruises all the time. One guy even asked me if there is grass (sod) in Alaska.

My first flight to ANC was when I was 7 and remember wondering if the airlines used skis mounted on the wheels to land with. lol It was summer, mind you.

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The best advise I can provide for drivers and campers or combi fly and drive who want to visit the state is to buy an annual copy of the Alaska Milepost. Its the best $35 dollar you can spend.

True. When we drove out in '84 that thing was awesome.

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
Supposedly a new city will open out West. To be announced soon.

This is a very curious part. I wonder what constitutes "out west"? Boise, Vancouver, Tucson, Billings....?

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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:43 pm

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 1):

Sounds Bizarre to me.

I think that is free plane (red-eye) and cheap oil making the decision. I think it is odd too, though. Is LGB-ANC coming back?
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:52 pm

Strange move....maybe they're finally responding to AS adding PDX-BOS? I wonder if AS will have any response. SJC-BOS?
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:33 pm

This is simply using a plane that would otherwise RON in Portland on a relatively short stage-length, high yield market. I wouldn't read into this as being reactive to anybody.
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:38 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 8):
Is LGB-ANC coming back?

I don't think they cut it, did they? It runs seasonally, and did so this summer.
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:53 pm

Quoting hiflyeras (Reply 9):

I'd love to see AS do SJC-BOS/FLL.
 
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:54 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 10):
This is simply using a plane that would otherwise RON in Portland on a relatively short stage-length, high yield market. I wouldn't read into this as being reactive to anybody.

   Plus it only runs for about 3 months.

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 7):
This is a very curious part. I wonder what constitutes "out west"? Boise, Vancouver, Tucson, Billings....?

Or PSP, GEG, RNO, COS, FAI, or even Hawaii or Cabo? Maybe restarting ONT? And will it be served from JFK/BOS or an intra-West route?

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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:35 pm

Quoting 787pdx (Reply 2):

AS has an entire monopoly on this route. It runs 3 or 4x daily during the summer and fares are usually high. DL flew this route in the late 90s and then CO picked it up for awhile. I think B6 found a nice little seasonal niche. It seems many of the additions lately have been seasonal ones.

I remember TWA flying this route in the 90's as well, with an M80 STL-PDX-ANC.

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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:39 pm

My bet is on RNO, Jackson Hole, or Bozemen. Redeye from JFK. Think ABQ and you get the idea
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:45 pm

Quoting hiflyeras (Reply 9):
I wonder if AS will have any response. SJC-BOS?

I'd love to see AS do SJC-BOS/FLL. [/quote]

As much as I would love to see them do SJC-BOS/FLL they have already found out what it's like to try and get into another airline's hub Ex: SJC-SLC It's pretty unlikely that they will start anything from SJC for a long time.

[Edited 2015-01-08 09:45:31]
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:52 pm

I know it is bad timing, but any chance of seasonal ski destinations like EGE from JFK/BOS? I know the A320 isnt the best candidate for some of these routes, but maybe?
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:59 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 8):
I think that is free plane (red-eye) and cheap oil making the decision. I think it is odd too, though. Is LGB-ANC coming back?

I think it just fits in with their current ANC strategy.
 
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:15 pm

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 5):
As an Alaskan I get asked often about the state and cruises all the time. One guy even asked me if there is grass (sod) in Alaska. The best advise I can provide for drivers and campers or combi fly and drive who want to visit the state is to buy an annual copy of the Alaska Milepost. Its the best $35 dollar you can spend.

Planning on renting a car in SEA and driving to Alaska this year. They sell a 2014 copy of the Milepost in my nearby Barnes & Noble...will definitely be picking that up soon!
Should be fun!

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 10):
This is simply using a plane that would otherwise RON in Portland on a relatively short stage-length, high yield market. I wouldn't read into this as being reactive to anybody.

I agree. Makes sense from that perspective! The ANC ramp is going to be busy with B6 aircraft every late night this summer!
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:30 pm

I do see the appeal for B6, trying to get in on a route at a time they think AS wont respond much.

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 17):
I know it is bad timing, but any chance of seasonal ski destinations like EGE from JFK/BOS? I know the A320 isnt the best candidate for some of these routes, but maybe?

They actually can't do EGE-JFK/BOS with a 320 in that direction. The only reason united is able to fly EGE-DEN is because its so incredibly short. B6 would need either a 737-700, or 757-200 to fly that route without severe weight restrictions. The 757-200 is the perfect plane for EGE

B6 serves DEN and SLC for the ski crowd, for an airline like B6 i think thats enough to satisfy the FFs who want to use miles. If anything B6 could add BOS-SLC if people demand more seats to a ski destination.
 
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:33 pm

Quoting richierich (Reply 19):
They sell a 2014 copy of the Milepost in my nearby Barnes & Noble.

Yes last years edition is usually available at a discounted price; around $15 If your happen to be member of Costco they sell the newest editions of the Milepost in their their Pacific Northwest stores and of course in Alaska. The 2015 editions should if memory serves me be available in April.

If you do buy a 2014 edition; the Alaska Marine Highway System ferry sailing schedule insert will not be current. If need you can can pull that down on-line.
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:13 pm

Looks like AS has already responded by dramatically lowering nonstop PDX-ANC fares for next summer. Just within the last hour fares have dropped by hundreds. Awesome!

[Edited 2015-01-08 12:16:22]
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:28 pm

Rumor has it that the new West city will be BOI with service to SLC and JFK on a dog leg run. Micron alluded to air service between New York and BOI at Mondays Chamber of Commerce Meeting.

[Edited 2015-01-08 12:39:22]
 
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:40 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 10):
This is simply using a plane that would otherwise RON in Portland on a relatively short stage-length, high yield market. I wouldn't read into this as being reactive to anybody.

My first thought, too. Others have done this in the past from Seattle to Anchorage, with a plane that otherwise sits overnight in Seattle.
 
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:47 pm

Quoting ridgid727 (Reply 23):
Rumor has it that the new West city will be BOI with service to SLC and JFK on a dog leg run.

Hell, why don't they bring back the old NW milk run between SEA-BOS while they're at it....SEA-GEG-BOI-MSO-FAR etc etc etc
 
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:48 pm

so a B6-JFK-SLC-BOI run? interesting idea. I can't see BOI-JFK as having enough demand to go non-stop. If they push the JFK-SLC flight up a few hours seems totally possible keeping a similar schedule.
 
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:53 pm

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 5):
The state seems to have a lot of interest not only from the lower 48 but from around the globe.

Certainly had/has enough interest from me that when B6 started LGB-ANC back in 2011, I immediately bought tickets.

Spent a great 4 days up there (went to ANC and Denali National Park, and a day trip to Seward), and all I've wanted since is to go back!
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:03 pm

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 27):
Spent a great 4 days up there (went to ANC and Denali National Park, and a day trip to Seward), and all I've wanted since is to go back!

That is an insane 4 day itinerary, did you spend the whole time driving  
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:12 pm

B6 is the best. A truly great product. PDX now has two awesome options to ANC.

B6 should start PDX-MCO (although I don't know if they do any transcons from MCO?)
 
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:59 pm

Quoting 787pdx (Reply 29):
B6 is the best. A truly great product. PDX now has two awesome options to ANC.

B6 should start PDX-MCO (although I don't know if they do any transcons from MCO?)

Agreed on all accounts. I travel to and from MCO on a regular basis and would love a direct flight!
 
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:07 pm

Quoting hiflyeras (Reply 9):
Strange move....maybe they're finally responding to AS adding PDX-BOS? I wonder if AS will have any response. SJC-BOS?

Didn't AS start BOS before B6?

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 6):

They did this last summer too. I would think the competition is worse on the BOS route with AS and the much smaller city on the BOS end would make the reverse frequency better.

Although NYC does have both DL and UA to contend with.
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:11 pm

Quoting hiflyeras (Reply 25):
Hell, why don't they bring back the old NW milk run between SEA-BOS while they're at it....SEA-GEG-BOI-MSO-FAR etc etc etc

They wee routed thru Butte, Bozeman, Helena, but not Boise. Only NW service BOI saw was from early 90s n/s to MSP.
Being from Boise originally, would be nice to see.
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:11 pm

Quoting ridgid727 (Reply 23):
Rumor has it that the new West city will be BOI with service to SLC and JFK on a dog leg run. Micron alluded to air service between New York and BOI at Mondays Chamber of Commerce Meeting.

If this comes to fruition, I could see a lot of other similar sized western markets (RNO, COS, ELP, GEG, FAT, TUS) asking B6 to let them tag along with another, already established B6 route.

Examples:

RNO-LAS-JFK
ELP-HOU-JFK
GEG-PDX-JFK
FAT-(various CA cities)-JFK
TUS-LAS-JFK
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:39 pm

All sounds like a page out of the WN playbook...RNO, ABQ, ELP...just doesn't sound very B6 to me at all. Especially SLC....they're having enough fun with DL on the east coast. They want to pick a fight with them on the west coast as payback? Just not logical in my opinion.
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:03 am

Quoting 787pdx (Reply 2):
AS has an entire monopoly on this route. It runs 3 or 4x daily during the summer and fares are usually high. DL flew this route in the late 90s and then CO picked it up for awhile.

United & TWA have flown this route in the past.

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 6):
Flight gets in ungodly early to PDX.

As is usual with flights from AK to the lower 48, you should see ANC on a busy summer night 10p-2a

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 14):
I remember TWA flying this route in the 90's as well, with an M80 STL-PDX-ANC.

I too flew this route on the last livery M80s, but my buddy who worked for TW at PDX told me the 757 also ran PDX-ANC at least one season, which routed STL-PDX-ANC of course.

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 26):
so a B6-JFK-SLC-BOI run?

That's how many carriers flying SLC-BOI? 3? DL, AS & B6?
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:11 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 35):
That's how many carriers flying SLC-BOI? 3? DL, AS & B6?

Yes. Granted AS is a single daily flight on a Q400
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:13 am

Did DL ever start the ATL service BOI received the SCASD grant for? Maybe they have rolled it over to B6 for JFK service.

http://www.ktvb.com/story/money/2014...nt-flights-boise-atlanta/16603695/
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:34 am

Quoting 787pdx (Reply 29):
B6 is the best. A truly great product. PDX now has two awesome options to ANC.

B6 should start PDX-MCO (although I don't know if they do any transcons from MCO?)
Quoting clemsonaj (Reply 30):
Agreed on all accounts. I travel to and from MCO on a regular basis and would love a direct flight!

Anyone can send in a route request to JetBlue via this link:
http://www.jetblue.com/contact-us/em...e_we_fly_(destinations_and_routes)

I submitted PDX-FLL and PDX-MCO. Send in your requests.

[Edited 2015-01-08 20:20:12]
 
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Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:12 am

I would also love to see B6 tie PDXwith MCO and FLL!
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:57 am

I don;t think JFK-SLC-BOI is AS crazy as you it might appear at first. B6 is well established in SLC and there is a demand to BOI, especially for a LCC plus they can use it to fill the JFK flight. I think it makes sense. I guess we will find out what the new western route will be, relatively soon.

BOS/JFK-LAS-RNO sounds great to me. I think alot of people would love a fare lowering on that route thru some competition. Pretty tough drive there is no interstate and its the opposite of a straight easy shot. The options between LAS and RNO are extremely tiring and pretty painfully brutal.
 
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Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:22 am

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
Seasonal service starts in June

I noticed this on the B6 route map last night. I'm shocked that F9 and VX couldn't make ANC work from their primary hubs while B6 seems to have no trouble serving ANC from its small, struggling West Coast hub and two spokes that are highly competitive to/from ANC. Honestly makes me wonder if we could see B6 try some seasonal ANC service from the Bay Area (probably SFO but maybe OAK) or even the likes of DEN or ORD in the future. Then again, if WN ever decides to serve ANC, they'll probably do so from the likes of DEN, MDW, and OAK..

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
Supposedly a new city will open out West. To be announced soon.

I wonder if they got some sort of FIS contingency deal worked out so that they could offer LGB-YVR flights. WN's new HOU-AUA serves as proof that you don't actually need a fully functional FIS in place to serve foreign markets that have pre-clearance, just a plan in place to process pax in the very unlikely event that the inbound flight needs to be screened upon arrival. After all, the Pacific Northwest seems to be one of the few things that does well from LGB.

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 7):
This is a very curious part. I wonder what constitutes "out west"? Boise, Vancouver, Tucson, Billings....?

Those are some good examples, although there is absolutely no way BIL is a serious contender for any kind of regularly scheduled B6 service. BOI really seems like a stretch, but maybe a less than daily from JFK would be possible. A return to TUS might make sense if ABQ - a very similar market - is actually working out. YVR seems like the best opportunity on your list, but only if they can do it from LGB (they can always do some BOS/JFK-YVR as well, likely only seasonally, but I don't think YVR would work if it was only served from the East Coast). I'd say pretty much anything between FAI and SAT could probably fit that definition; markets all through the West Coast, Rockies, and Southwest, perhaps even something like SJD.

Quoting hiflyeras (Reply 9):
I wonder if AS will have any response. SJC-BOS?

I was racking my brains to think of a viable AS retaliation, and SJC-BOS might just be it. AS would probably harm itself more than anyone else if it was to try to do something like SLC-MCO or SEA-JFK. That said, given the radically different networks of B6 and AS, there just isn't much AS can do to directly make a point...

Quoting psa1011 (Reply 12):
Or PSP, GEG, RNO, COS, FAI, or even Hawaii or Cabo? Maybe restarting ONT? And will it be served from JFK/BOS or an intra-West route?

PSP is an interesting idea. I see VX still operates that seasonal weekly JFK-PSP, so there is definitely a market for that service. I'd put GEG, RNO, and COS in the same camp as BOI - highly unlikely, but with the right incentives or revenue guarantees I suppose a low frequency JFK service could be possible. FAI is probably desperate for LCC service after losing F9, maybe B6 could add an ANC-FAI tag or even try SEA-FAI? Hawaii wouldn't be possible with the current generation A32X aircraft, and I doubt B6 would want to go through the expense and hassle of ETOPS just to open some risky routes to Hawaii from LGB (and perhaps some Western spoke markets as well). I don't see SJD happening unless LGB gets FIS, since the B6 A320s would probably struggle to do JFK-SJD with a viable payload. I don't think a return to ONT will happen anytime soon, the Inland Empire is not what it was when they began flying there 15 years ago.

Other markets to consider would be SAT, SNA (I realize the A320s probably couldn't get to JFK or BOS from the short runway, but they could always do 1 stops via LAS), YYC, and maybe some ski markets.

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 15):
My bet is on RNO, Jackson Hole, or Bozemen.

I think any or even all of the 3 are possible - assuming sufficient incentives/revenue guarantees are available. BZN and JAC already have some NYC services, and if seasonal summer LGB-ANC service works, why not try some winter seasonal services from LGB to ski resorts?

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 17):
any chance of seasonal ski destinations like EGE from JFK/BOS?

I've long thought that ski markets could do well for the cheap chic airlines like B6 and VX. If B6 can pull off summer seasonal services to the likes of ACK, ANC, HYA, and MVY, why not winter services to places like BZN, EGE, HDN, JAC, MTJ, etc.? VX could finally establish some more niche routes, like SFO-EGE.

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 20):
They actually can't do EGE-JFK/BOS with a 320 in that direction. The only reason united is able to fly EGE-DEN is because its so incredibly short. B6 would need either a 737-700, or 757-200 to fly that route without severe weight restrictions. The 757-200 is the perfect plane for EGE

UA operated nonstop summer seasonal EGE-ORD services with the A320 when the runway was just 8,000 ft. I should think even a B6 A320 could get to the East Coast with a viable payload off of EGE's 9,000 ft runway in the winter. They could always use an E-190 or do LGB-EGE instead.

If the 73G really is the ticket to success at EGE, hopefully the airport is working hard to get WN. It would have to be a fully seasonal station, and perhaps that is still not something WN is willing to do, but seasonal routes like DAL/HOU-EGE would do *extremely* well.

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 20):
B6 serves DEN and SLC for the ski crowd, for an airline like B6 i think thats enough to satisfy the FFs who want to use miles. If anything B6 could add BOS-SLC if people demand more seats to a ski destination.

Using that logic, B6 could serve just CUN and PUJ - after all, that would be satisfactory access to Caribbean beaches for an LCC. But, it turns out a lot of people hate those mass market places, demanding more secluded destinations like PLS and STX. Believe me, there are plenty of people in B6 hub markets like NY and LA who prefer the backcountry atmosphere of ski resorts like Big Sky or Jackson Hole as oppose to the much more urban vibes you encounter at the likes of Breckenridge or Park City.
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:31 am

My sources say RNO as the next B6 west coast city
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Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:38 am

Quoting Legend757 (Reply 36):
Yes. Granted AS is a single daily flight on a Q400

Yes and B6 once a day with an Airbus, that should help lower fares at least ... good for those flying between SLC & BOI if the route rumor is true.

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 40):
I think alot of people would love a fare lowering on that route thru some competition

So G4 hasn't had any affect on fares in this market at all?

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 41):
I wonder if they got some sort of FIS contingency deal worked out so that they could offer LGB-YVR flights.

IIRC, YVR has pre-clearance for trans-border flights to the USA, FIS wouldn't be necessary if that's the case.

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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:14 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 43):
IIRC, YVR has pre-clearance for trans-border flights to the USA, FIS wouldn't be necessary if that's the case.

You still need a facility, and CBP has the right to require the plane to reclear in USA.
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:43 am

Quoting 32andBelow (Reply 44):
You still need a facility, and CBP has the right to require the plane to reclear in USA.

Interesting I was unaware that is how it goes. Given LGB has a limited number of slots for mainline movements, It's pretty unlikely they'll see an FIS facility. If LGB got FIS, they'd likely end up with some destinations south of the border, IMO.

Since LAX-YVR seems to vary on performance based solely on what I've read here on A.net, I can't see how a LGB flight would perform well even if on an Embraer.
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:58 pm

Quoting rw717 (Reply 42):
My sources say RNO as the next B6 west coast city

RNO to where? They're 5-10 years too late...it can barely support the service it has today. It's starting to pick up again with new job growth but not enough to warrant service from the east coast. Beautiful area, close to Tahoe but RNO ain't where it's at, baby...for tourism and leisure travel and passengers it's LAS.
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:53 pm

Quoting hiflyeras (Reply 46):

I guess it's sad but true, East Coasters don't tend to fly as far as Tahoe for skiing/boarding.
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:56 pm

1 daily RNO-LGB and 1 RNO-SFO is the Rumor.
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my post are my opinion only and not those of southwest airlines and or airtran airlines.
 
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RE: B6: PDX-ANC

Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:09 pm

Oops - I meant to type Bozeman and not Billings. Haha. But it sounds like RNO.

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