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Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:37 pm

Another senior executive has departed at Bombardier. This time Ray Jones - head of Bombardier commercial airplane programs is out.

Per BBD, the departure of Jones who only assumed his position in December 2013 was per mutual agreement.

This departure follows other high profile shake ups including loss of the VP of marketing and VP of finance in 2014.


Sales chief Ray Jones leaves Bombardier, delivering another blow to commercial program
http://leehamnews.com/2015/01/08/sal...nother-blow-to-commercial-program/

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Constant churn of executives at BBD certainly does not build confidence in the company for clients, especially with many of these executives being very much in the forefront of sales campaigns.
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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:59 pm

Just at it seemed as things were going a bit smoothly  Sad

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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:26 pm

Makes one really wonder what is going on over at BBD. Must be lots of behind the scenes board room battles.
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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:00 pm

Makes one wonder with constant shuffling who is minding the store and working on the sales strategy?
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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:08 pm

Curious to what is happening with the CSeries...the last thread is now too old to comment on.
 
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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:53 pm

I see the drop fuel prices further hurts the business case for C-series, while Q-400 prop is too much airplane for many customers. Cant be easy to be BBD sales person these days.
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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:15 pm

BBD has had a high turnover rate with executives for years... Something about the culture there must make it uncomfortable to stick around if a program is lagging.
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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:34 am

There's another article:

http://leehamnews.com/2015/01/09/assessing-turmoil-at-bombardier/

Quote:

* The Wall Street Journal takes a look at Bombardier.(Subscription required.)
* ““We did not fully expect and prepare” for the competitive response, said a Bombardier executive. Its studies concluded re-engining the A320 and 737 made no economic sense and was unlikely to happen,” The WSJ writes.

This is an incredibly naive assessment by BBD. We co-wrote in a study in 2009 that concluded Airbus and Boeing had no choice but to reengine their A320 and 737 families, about 18 months before Airbus launched the A320neo and two years before Boeing launched the 737 MAX. The WSJ piece is a good look at the program and competitive situation. We take a critical look at the turmoil below.
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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:02 am

I wouldn't read too much into it. Boeing had a large turnover in exec positions about 6 years ago. If an exec doesn't cut the mustard, why continue the relationship?

As for the C-Series and fuel prices.... Let's not forget, the price of fuel is so bipolar.... And I seriously doubt the low fuel prices will stay low for long.
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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:20 am

When you invest in an Aircraft it is typically for 15-20 years. So in that sense, fuel consumtion is still very important. However, the drop in prices may mean that some Airlines who would otherwise be rushing to replace their older CRJs etc might hold it off a little longer. Now I just wait eagerly for the completion of the test programme, and complece certification of both the CS100 and CS300.
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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:16 pm

For anyone wondering what is the current state of the program as there hasn't been much said in the threads lately: there isn't a lot to say, in truth. The flight test program has definitely picked up speed in November and December, but has been much less reported on by common sources. Sylvain Faust who used to track most, if not all, FTV flights, no longer lists all flights made as the FTVs flight out of KICT.

The graph contained in this report shows the progress that was made in November: http://airinsight.com/2014/12/15/cseries-flight-test-update-2. As far as I know, the rhythm has been roughly the same in December, and seems to be the same this month.

I don't really believe the argument that lower fuel prices at the moment will affect the program in any way. From what I've read, the predictions seem to be that this respite in fuel prices is very much temporary, and will not see 2016.
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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:44 am

Blamestorming.../ˈblāmˌstôrmiNG/, blame·storm·ing

noun: The group discussion regarding the assigning of responsibility for a failure or mistake.

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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:56 pm

If the current release of fuel costs has an effect on the C-Series - it is that it gives airlines time to wait für certification / first reports after EIS - and decide without hurry.
 
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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:32 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 7):
There's another article:

And another:

CSeries sales executive leaves Bombardier

Quote:
Bombardier’s struggling CSeries program has hit yet another bump, with the departure of its sales chief, who had only been in the job for a year.

And here are a few other news bits from the past week:

Bombardier’s countless CSeries delays give bigger rivals an edge

Canada Loan Crucial to Bombardier CSeries Project
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RE: Bombardier Airplane Program Chief Steps Down

Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:13 pm

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 8):
I wouldn't read too much into it. Boeing had a large turnover in exec positions about 6 years ago. If an exec doesn't cut the mustard, why continue the relationship?

Yes, and ~6 years ago is also when Boeing was having serious 787 troubles. Large executive turnover is never a good sign.

Launching a new airplane is when you need executives who are cutting the mustard, and airlines don't like to hear that so far the manufacturer is lacking that.

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