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Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:45 am

As we all know, 2014 has been a spectacular year for IAH and HOU! IAH has had a recordbreaking year with new service and expansion! Throughout last year IAH has seen the announcement of new service from international airlines such as EVA Air and ANA has welcomed new entrants such as Scandinavian, Interjet, Volaris and Korean Air and has seen upgauges, EK has upgauged their daily service to their A380, Air China upgraded to frequency to daily, followed by Turkish. United has also expanded their presence with new flights to MUC, SCL, PUJ, re adding AUA.
IAH is also set to receive a new Terminal D, announced in 2014 as well, as will Terminal B North, demolition for it is supposed to start this month according to rumor.
HOU is continuing progress on its new international terminal and Southwest has announced the first 6 international routes out of hobby!
I predict 2015 to have more new routes and expansion for both airports!
My predictions for IAH are that:
UA will begin IAH-PVG/BSB.
SWA will add PTY from HOU.
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:07 am

WN going to continue connecting more flights to HOU like BUR,ONT,RIC,BUF stuff like that.
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:14 am

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Thread starter):

I dont expect anything else for UA as we are already in mid-January. Any new announcements would most likely be for 2016.

As for WN to PTY, not sure what that would bring. There's not that much traffic destined for Panama. UA does well simply due to the amount of connection traffic that CM offers.
 
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:17 am

How about increasing the frequency of WN on HOU-PIT?  

How is WN doing on there anyway?
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:36 am

What we know is Volaris, Eva Air and ANA are coming to IAH, and Spirit is adding ten destinations this summer. HOU is adding a half dozen international destinations out of HOU, some which will compete with Spirit. For more, we'll have to wait to see what happens with oil prices and job creation for 2015.
 
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:37 am

B6 will leave HOU. Sorry for the downer post in a happy thread. Just a rumor down there.
 
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:45 am

I'd love to see NZ start AKL-IAH. This would make IAH the only airport in the US (and I believe in the Western Hemisphere as a whole) to serve all 6 permanently inhabited continents, as long as you don't count Hawaii as part of Oceania (which it is, but still).
 
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:50 am

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
B6 will leave HOU. Sorry for the downer post in a happy thread. Just a rumor down there.

I've heard that rumor on a number of occasions myself, there might be something to it, though I hope not.

Quoting toxtethogrady (Reply 4):
For more, we'll have to wait to see what happens with oil prices and job creation for 2015.

Agree, 2015 might be a tough year for Houston and it's airports, we'll have to wait and see. Regardless what happens in the oil patch, I concur with others in that additional major expansion from IAH be it UA or foreign carriers is probably done for most of the year once NH and BR and Volaris start up ops this Spring and Summer. As for HOU, perhaps WS, or one of the Mexican LCCs opt out of IAH and set up shop at Hobby.
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:04 am

If oil prices keep plumeting like they are, the growth will cease and a period of retraction will begin.

I'd love to see IAH-AKL or HKG on any carrier, and yes I know HKG will never happen.

An interesting addition would be a IAH-CAI flight, but I know that won't happen neither.
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:15 am

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 8):

Lets see, They could stabilize soon, And Houston has diversified its economy, albeit still energy based, Oil is now only 38%, I doubt it will affect the Houston economy as much as it did in the 80s.
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:39 am

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 8):
If oil prices keep plumeting like they are, the growth will cease and a period of retraction will begin.

But remember, cheaper oil means cheaper fuel prices for airlines. And cheaper fuel increases the profitability of routes. So for all we know, the drop in oil prices will have a positive effect on IAH routes.
 
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:16 am

Yeah 2014 was a huge expansion year for IAH and it'll be interesting to see what 2015 brings for IAH and HOU (once the new international terminal is completed). In regards to B6 dropping HOU would they have more success by switching over to IAH as F9 did a few years back? I think everyone wants to see IAH-AKL and IAH-PVG routes. Lastly, any word on when they will start the redevelopment of B North and Terminal D at IAH?
 
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:18 am

Quoting 96texan (Reply 11):

Heard somewhere the demo was going to be this month back in December.
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:09 pm

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 9):

Agreed. It wont have be the same scenario as the 80's, but the high fares that some of this oil traffic brings I expect to drop substantially compared to 12/13/14.
 
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:33 pm

If someone adds IAH-AKL, I can't see myself complaining any time soon. I think it will be NZ that will at some point this year.
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:41 pm

I think COPA is gonna start HOU...that's my prediction.
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:20 pm

Quoting 96texan (Reply 11):
In regards to B6 dropping HOU would they have more success by switching over to IAH as F9 did a few years back?

They could interline with partners there even though many of those partners are in JFK and BOS. Something is better than nothing. BR, CA, NH, AV make a bit of sense but would it really help? I'm not sure.
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:48 pm

I think we need to wait until we see what oil is going to do. That will dictate a lot.
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:51 pm

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Thread starter):
SWA will add PTY from HOU.

Related to the Central American scenario, NK will launch Managua, San Pedro Sula, San Salvador and San Jose from IAH this year.
UA will response to this new service on launching red-eye flights to these airports.
Panama City has been totally forgotten from this equation.

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Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:53 pm

speaking of PTY, whats going on right now in PTY? UA is running red-eyes in both direction EWR-PTY-EWR and have an added IAH-PTY flight tonight.
 
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:19 am

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Thread starter):
SWA will add PTY from HOU.

Hard to believe that would work

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 7):
Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
B6 will leave HOU. Sorry for the downer post in a happy thread. Just a rumor down there.

I've heard that rumor on a number of occasions myself, there might be something to it, though I hope not.

I don't think B6 can leave and maintain their aspirations of holding business travelers in BOS. They have to fly to the big markets.

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Thread starter):
I predict 2015 to have more new routes and expansion for both airports!

Everybody is forgetting NK. I think you could see them do PTY and other things in Central America. Domestically I bet they add a number of new routes.
 
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:49 am

Quoting enilria (Reply 20):
Everybody is forgetting NK.

NK SAL-IAH 4x weekly Effective: May 28.
NK SJO-IAH 4x weekly. Effective: May 28.
NK IAH-MGA 3x weekly. Effective: May 29.
NK SAP-IAH 3x weekly. Effective: May 30.

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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:41 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 21):

I wonder what will the scenario when WN enters those markets out of HOU. This will definitely affect NK.
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Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:10 am

We must also consider the remote (stress remote) possibility of the postponement or cancellation of one or more of the the 3 int'l upstarts this year as well as NK and WN, should Houston's economy take a significant downturn. Personally, I believe that there might be a short-lived downturn but nothing that would deter BR, NH or Volaris from going through with their IAH plans. Just food for thought.
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:31 am

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 9):
Lets see, They could stabilize soon, And Houston has diversified its economy, albeit still energy based, Oil is now only 38%, I doubt it will affect the Houston economy as much as it did in the 80s.

Oil and Energy is ~50% and the knock-on effects from that 50% can be large. That being said I suspect by summer oil will be well above 60$ which keeps the frackers in business so it will be a push.

In the 60-80$USD a barrel range Houston (and Texas) will cool off but not recess. Longer term under 50$ and then the stagnation could hit.


2015 will not be anything like 2014 so I would suspect it will be a flat more "boring" year and that is OK.

The only remote possibility I see for new entrants is Etihad or less so the Kiwis.

The big events for 2015 will be all the new construction at both airports.

UA is not going to add China from IAH anytime soon.
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:39 am

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 23):

Yikes. This is a possibility but I think that truly is a remote and I mean remote possibility. But it definitely needs some consideration.

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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:01 am

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 24):
UA is not going to add China from IAH anytime soon.

I could see HKG or PVG from UA in the future, especially HKG if they could use one of the 788's.

Maybe we will see IAH-MUC go to the 777 as well at IAH-FRA go to the 777 daily.

Anyone have any info (I am sure there is a thread already) on when the LH A380's will all be fitted with the new business class?

Also, I am surprised LX doesn't serve IAH. Granted that could juts be my wishful thinking.
 
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:04 am

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 24):

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 9):
Lets see, They could stabilize soon, And Houston has diversified its economy, albeit still energy based, Oil is now only 38%, I doubt it will affect the Houston economy as much as it did in the 80s.

Oil and Energy is ~50% and the knock-on effects from that 50% can be large. That being said I suspect by summer oil will be well above 60$ which keeps the frackers in business so it will be a push.

In the 60-80$USD a barrel range Houston (and Texas) will cool off but not recess. Longer term under 50$ and then the stagnation could hit.


2015 will not be anything like 2014 so I would suspect it will be a flat more "boring" year and that is OK.

The only remote possibility I see for new entrants is Etihad or less so the Kiwis.

The big events for 2015 will be all the new construction at both airports.

UA is not going to add China from IAH anytime soon.

I see, I don't think 2015 will be that boring, we will see the arrivals of NH and BR as well as the new construction and let's not forget the inauguration of international flights out of HOU.
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Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:25 am

(Possible) Russia plummets into further economic turmoil, SQ can shift their SIN-DME-HKG flight to SIN-HKG-IAH.
(Improbable) The above happens, and SU or UA launch IAH-Moscow with 787s, of course that is either/or, not both.

I'm surprised UAs FRA flight hasn't been upgauged back to a 777, or even a 764.

A UA flight to ICN would be nice.
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:47 am

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 28):

(Possible) Russia plummets into further economic turmoil, SQ can shift their SIN-DME-HKG flight to SIN-HKG-IAH.
(Improbable) The above happens, and SU or UA launch IAH-Moscow with 787s, of course that is either/or, not both.

I'm surprised UAs FRA flight hasn't been upgauged back to a 777, or even a 764.

A UA flight to ICN would be nice.


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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:08 am

Did anyone predict WestJet IAH-YYC in September? Someone appears to have found a single flight 6 days out of 7 each week, but not till Fall.
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:11 am

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 2):
I dont expect anything else for UA as we are already in mid-January. Any new announcements would most likely be for 2016.

Turks and Caicos, starting in June. As for new service cut-off, in the old days you didn't hear anything new after March. I'm intrigued that the date has moved into January.

I would be curious how many new E75 services IAH will see in 2015 and which cities will get the upgrade/downgrade.
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:13 am

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 7):
Agree, 2015 might be a tough year for Houston and it's airports

That said, DTW saw passenger growth in years when Detroit itself was going into the toilet.
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:28 am

Quoting toxtethogrady (Reply 30):

Did anyone predict WestJet IAH-YYC in September? Someone appears to have found a single flight 6 days out of 7 each week, but not till Fall.

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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:13 am

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 2):
As for WN to PTY, not sure what that would bring. There's not that much traffic destined for Panama. UA does well simply due to the amount of connection traffic that CM offers.

Houston - Panama O/D is rather small when compared to GUA/SAL/SJO.

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 15):
I think COPA is gonna start HOU...that's my prediction.

CM could open HOU to take care of PTY/PTY hub-Houston O/D traffic so to add connecting UA capacity @ IAH and try to woo WN to fly to BLB instead of PTY - if WN really wants to fly to Panama City.
BLB is where 5Z Viva Colombia is operating and surely according to PTY management is where WN should belong.

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 19):
speaking of PTY, whats going on right now in PTY? UA is running red-eyes in both direction EWR-PTY-EWR and have an added IAH-PTY flight tonight.

Those are seasonal.
That EWR red-eyes both way while could carry some connecting hub traffic, it's mostly for PTY O/D.
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:15 am

Following UA's recent announcement of IAH-PLS and HAV pending approval, I say they'll add to that by adding SXM 2x weekly on a 739.
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:28 am

Trying to fill in those holes left by US leaving Star?
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:38 am

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 36):

Yessir! To me, Caribbean, LatAm and South America are what UA should be focused on in Houston. FFC's have done a good job of keeping UA out of other overseas markets.
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:29 am

I'm holding out for UA or OZ yo make the death blow to KE in IAH. I prefer UA of course, a lot of pax on the NRT flight are Korean nationals and since ICN is a Star hub it makes more since. Had KE entered with a 788, then I'd say they have a fighting chance. And HKG would be a nice cherry on top.

Quoting IAHflyer97 (Reply 35):

Following UA's recent announcement of IAH-PLS and HAV pending approval, I say they'll add to that by adding SXM 2x weekly on a 739.

As much as I would love for this to happen, I don't think it will. I think ADZ would be interesting, even though its a much longer shot than SXM.

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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:54 am

I dunno - I like seeing KE at IAH. If the route gets a chance to mature, it will be like Singapore Airlines.
 
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Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:04 am

Quoting toxtethogrady (Reply 39):

Something's gotta be driving the route to keep it daily through the off season. Does anyone have cargo numbers? Ive heard several times on here that loads are... Not good to say the least.
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Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:55 am

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 25):
Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 27):
I see, I don't think 2015 will be that boring, we will see the arrivals of NH and BR as well as the new construction and let's not forget the inauguration of international flights out of HOU.

I meant compared to 2014, sorry if I was not clearer. What you mentioned above was already noted in 2014 which I think added to 2014s greatness. Frankly 2014 was an awesome year for IAH overall.
I certainly wish 2015 would match, but I think compared to 2014 it will be boring with fewer announcements.

WestJet is a great and fairly logical add even with low oil.
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Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:49 pm

My wish list is HKG by Cathay to IAH or SQ switching their Moscow to Hong Kong. SWA flying to PTY is a possibility but they will first go to Mexico and other central American countries before PTY. There definitely is traffic to PTY as UA is the only airline flying there now. Who knows, COPA might start flying as the relationship between UA and Copa is not as strong as before.

And the effects of oil is already started, the high priced tickets to cities OKC, DEN are all gone, the fares are now very competitive. The downturn in oil business will affect international business class.
 
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Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:22 am

Not a prediction, per se, but I sure hope that someone launches AKL-IAH if only because my dream of WLG-DFW will only happen if I become wealthy enough to buy a personal 787. But it would sure make getting home to see the family easier. And I'd be more likely to fly Star internationally--SYD may be out of the way, but it means I don't have to go through LAX.

Rant over. Good luck to Houston on getting new service!

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Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:51 am

Quoting hohd (Reply 42):
There definitely is traffic to PTY as UA is the only airline flying there now. Who knows, COPA might start flying as the relationship between UA and Copa is not as strong as before.

UA IAH-PTY flights feed CM hub, traffic, same with PTY-IAH getting most of its passengers from CM flights and not from Panama City.
CM was unhappy with UA Mileage Plus and needed to start its own F.F. programme to allow its passengers to earn miles on its code-shared flights w/ KL AF IB, but other than that the UA-CM bond is still an strong one.
CM won't fly to IAH for the same reason it doesn't fly to EWR. CM won't fly the same route (airport pair) as its partner UA, that's why if CM wants Houston, the choice might be HOU, even if WN might not like CM to benefit from the HOU expansion (Port of entry) it paid for.
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:08 am

On CM flying to Houston, I think HOU-PTY has a pretty good chance of happening. It would be UAs way of sticking it to WN.

In regards to UA at HOU, is there the possibility of HPU being connected to other UA hubs? UA flies to secondary airports in the LA area, SF Bay area, all 3 NYC airports, IAD and DCA, and other large cities/metro areas with multiple airports (I.e. MIA/FLL, DAW/DAL). EWR/DEN/IAD/LAX/ORD/SFO-HOU could work, perhaps one flight to each hub daily on a 170/175.
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Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:15 am

Oh, let's blue-sky a bit. Since Galveston has a cruise industry and traffic from IAH to the island sucks on I-45, any chance of regional service on the weekend IAH-GLS to bring tourists to the cruise ships.
 
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RE: Predictions For IAH/HOU For 2015.

Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:42 am

Quoting hohd (Reply 42):
My wish list is HKG by Cathay to IAH or SQ switching their Moscow to Hong Kong.

I don't see this as a possibility. HKG, of course, is a Oneworld strong city. Further, DFW being up the road takes some traffic from the already small IAH-HKG traffic. DFW can sustain non-stop to HKG not only because of the Oneworld connection, but also because both cities are mega-finance hubs, whereas IAH is much more concentrated on Oil routes (I'm not sure of the oil traffic to HKG, but one can't imagine it's all that big). That leaves VFR traffic that can mostly be accomidated on exisiting UA conections through SFO or ORD to HKG. I see PVG on UA as the more plausible of the two, but even PVG would be a longshot with the recent glut of Asian service to IAH, and the lack of a Star hub at PVG (at best its a moderate focus city for CA).
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