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Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:15 am

This is the only picture I have been able to find of the new Qantas A330-300 economy seats which look quite good. I'm sure everyone has been able to find pictures of the new business class seats  
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:21 am

Here's the behind-the-scenes video of the new-look A330.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkkAhZzOmHI

I personally like it!

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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:27 am

There should be a flood of new pictures today as VH-QPA A333R is operating MEL-SIN ..... SO tonight we should have new pictures  
It's truly a fantastic product and has got all of us employees really excited.... Haters be haters, but there is no denying that this is truly a world class mid haul product!
I personally think it's better than SQ Regional Product they have on majority of Australian Cities... Excluding A380  
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:56 am

They look fantastic from the front, can't wait for more photos of the backs/IFE and the cabin as a whole. QF really do seem to have outdone themselves with the A330 refits.

The new 11" screens in Y will also be fantastic -- I was blown away by how much of a step up they were from the older screens (though the software seemed to be the same) on EK's A380s. Also good to see QF finally adopting bi-fold tray tables!

Quoting Miami (Reply 1):
Here's the behind-the-scenes video of the new-look A330.

This is one of the -200s, which have the same J seats but different Y seats (though the domestic seats look fabulous as well IMO!).
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:02 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 3):

There is a slight difference in J/C too...

A332R Has leather appointed seats
A333R Has fabric appointed seats, better for comfort and sleeping on.
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:04 am

I note VH-QPC operated QF618 MEL-BNE today, which is normally operated by a 738. Next aircraft to enter BNE maintenance facility for refurbishment?   

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Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:13 am

Quoting cerecl (Reply 5):

No ATM it's EBA 
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:12 am

I love it looks great, and I like the carry the over of the new branding to the IFE interface.

Couple of questions:
Will the aircraft be repainted into the updated livery during the reconfigure? Some of those A333s from the outside are looking a little worn.
What has been the feedback regarding the new meal offering in economy? Do pax like it? Do crew like it?
Have they received all the A330s back from JQ? Could these aircraft be used for Asian expansion and SYD-MEL services? Or better yet, what's about a return to AKL-LAX? Run a 200 PER-AKL-LAX daily, two markets high usage and stick it to NZ the through traffic from PER would free up capacity ex-SYD and MEL, save the crap terminal change in SYD? Even East Coast-AKL-LAX, cheap kiwi crew, lots of freight. Seems mad to allow NZ nearly three 777 to lax a day unchallenged.

And the big one! 2016 when the A330s are done time who thinks we will see a new product on the A380... Something to beat VA,NZ to the states and compete with SQ, and EY to Europe?

I feel QF has its mojo back, I expect to see good things from them this year, and hopefully a 789 the following!

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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:19 am

Quoting QF1 (Thread starter):

Looks good!

Quoting Miami (Reply 1):

Awesome short clip!

Thanks for sharing  
Quoting JQflightie (Reply 2):
I personally think it's better than SQ Regional Product they have on majority of Australian Cities... Excluding A380

Speaking about the SQ product, I love the massive J class bench seats on some of the SQ planes. A lot of people say the seats are two wide and they slide around in the seat but they are better than the F seats on many airlines  
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:34 am

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 7):
And the big one! 2016 when the A330s are done time who thinks we will see a new product on the A380... Something to beat VA,NZ to the states and compete with SQ, and EY to Europe?

Don't think anyone would try to out do NZ's PE seat on the 77W.

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 7):
I feel QF has its mojo back, I expect to see good things from them this year, and hopefully a 789 the following!

Didn't think QF had firmed there 789s yet?
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:42 am

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 7):
Run a 200 PER-AKL-LAX daily, two markets high usage and stick it to NZ the through traffic from PER would free up capacity ex-SYD and MEL, save the crap terminal change in SYD? Even East Coast-AKL-LAX, cheap kiwi crew, lots of freight. Seems mad to allow NZ nearly three 777 to lax a day unchallenged.

This is actually a great idea. With PER being a more leisure/VFR market, the route would not have to be daily and could operate three times weekly.
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:46 am

Is that LED lighting in the cabins now? It wasn't clear from the "after" sequences.
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:58 am

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 7):

A few have already been updated.

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 7):

The new Economy product hasn't been rolled out on East-West yet, but if you are talking about the new meals in the boxes on the east, our customer feed back has been great, crew love it too. When customers love it, crew love it  
Quoting smi0006 (Reply 7):

No JQ still have EBE/F/J/K

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 7):

After crewing one of the PER-AKL-PER rotations, they were both full both ways, with not a spare seat in both classes. It would be crazy to not keep this on permanantly. Alot of the customers I spoke to were all inbound of PDF the DXB-PER. Also a few pax changed onto the direct AKL-PER as they were on the EK flights to Europe that were routed AKL-SYD-BKK-DXB-Europe.

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 7):

I don't think the A330 product will be getting rolled out onto A380/B744
The SkyBed Mk2 is a great product too, it's lie-flat, the only thing it is missing is the work spaces that the A330 product has. But never say never....right.
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:46 am

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 6):

Thank god! I'd any aircraft are over due for an over haul its -EBA,B,C & D. The cabins are very tIred and no IFE.

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 7):
I feel QF has its mojo back, I expect to see good things from them this year, and hopefully a 789 the following!

Agree totally. The Roo has found its mojo  

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Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:57 am

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 12):
After crewing one of the PER-AKL-PER rotations, they were both full both ways, with not a spare seat in both classes. It would be crazy to not keep this on permanantly. Alot of the customers I spoke to were all inbound of PDF the DXB-PER. Also a few pax changed onto the direct AKL-PER as they were on the EK flights to Europe that were routed AKL-SYD-BKK-DXB-Europe.

Part of that was QF was still marketing dirt cheap specials to Perth, in late December. By this point NZ's flights we're full months out and already charging $1000ow!

So in away NZ getting fulled fast probably helped Qantas, but not sure how good the yield was. example the week before Christmas I was looking at fares to head to PER durring christmas on QF an they we're still around the $500ow
 
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:40 am

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Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:09 am

I must say I like the roo on the bulkhead too. And I read as part of the new sleep service cabin lights presumably LED ones will be set for boarding. Much better than current practices which is bright white for boarding. I always found QR to have the most soothing boarding armosphere; blue and purple, gentle Arabic music and the smell of rose petal from their hot towls- classy.
 
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:26 am

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 7):
Have they received all the A330s back from JQ? Could these aircraft be used for Asian expansion and SYD-MEL services? Or better yet, what's about a return to AKL-LAX?

The A330s that are coming back from JQ will not be getting the same treatment in Y as the international birds as they will only be getting new seat covers and will have QF-supplied iPads which will stream content from the Qstreaming system onboard.

From the numbers that QF have provided (courtesy of AusBT), 10 of the A332s will only have Qstreaming in Y with the remaining 8 keeping their Panasonic screens in Y as they already had them to begin with. If any of the A332s are going international, one would hope that it would be one of those with the PTVs in Y as while pretty good for domestic use, the Qstreaming system doesn't quite hold up against the competition internationally (the system seemed to be a little bit dysfunctional towards the end of the 767's life - laggy and sometimes unusable without a reset to the iPad). The Panasonic system is pretty fantastic though and I think we had all hoped that all the A332s would get it but it would seem it's not quite what we expected.
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:56 am

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 6):
No ATM it's EBA

VH-EBA is in there at the moment. Is QPC taking the place of QPA?
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:57 am

Quoting cerecl (Reply 18):

Quite possibly
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:03 pm

Quoting Singapore 777 (Reply 17):
10 of the A332s will only have Qstreaming in Y with the remaining 8 keeping their Panasonic screens in Y as they already had them to begin with.

So at the moment we have the following in the A332 fleet:

4 A332's with no individual screens - VH-EBA, B, C and D

4 A332's with Rockwell Collins IFE - VH-EBG, H, I and L

8 A332's with Panasonic IFE - VH-EBM, N, O, P, Q, R, S and V

While at Jetstar we have, as JQflightie says, VH-EBE, F, J and K.

Grand Total of 20. We know 2 of those are going to leave the fleet so we will have a total of 10 without Panasonic IFE at the moment. It will be interesting to see which one's they terminate the leases on!

Quoting Singapore 777 (Reply 17):
If any of the A332s are going international, one would hope that it would be one of those with the PTVs in Y as while pretty good for domestic use, the Qstreaming system doesn't quite hold up against the competition internationally

WIth 8 of the Panasonic one's in the fleet I'm sure if one needed to go International it would be one of them.

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 12):
The new Economy product hasn't been rolled out on East-West yet, but if you are talking about the new meals in the boxes on the east, our customer feed back has been great, crew love it too. When customers love it, crew love it

The dinner service on East Coast flights certainly seems to be a lot quicker than it used to be. Much easier and quicker to tidy everything up as well!

Quoting zkncj (Reply 14):
So in away NZ getting fulled fast probably helped Qantas, but not sure how good the yield was. example the week before Christmas I was looking at fares to head to PER durring christmas on QF an they we're still around the $500ow

At $500 one way that's not too bad considering the usual price for a domestic trans con from Perth. For QF it is sensible usage of an otherwise idle aircraft over the weekend. Hopefully when they announce it for next year they, once again, extend the season out when it is flying. If they keep doing that and building the route the pax will come as will the yield.
 
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:50 pm

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 20):
At $500 one way that's not too bad considering the usual price for a domestic trans con from Perth. For QF it is sensible usage of an otherwise idle aircraft over the weekend. Hopefully when they announce it for next year they, once again, extend the season out when it is flying. If they keep doing that and building the route the pax will come as will the yield.

Hopefully it do it again, they don't wait till a couple months out again. This season just gone they put the flight on sale way to late, after NZ had already picked up the bulk of the passengers.

Only thing is with QF using an 332 they can't offer PE on PER-AKL-PER
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:41 pm

Quoting QF1 (Thread starter):

AusBT has tweeted some photos of the new A333 Y seats, and I must say it's a massive improvement over the old ones.

 
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:22 pm

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 2):
There should be a flood of new pictures today as VH-QPA A333R is operating MEL-SIN ..... SO tonight we should have new pictures  

Ah, thats good. I was looking at the QF72 incident a few years ago and was wondering what happened to this plane recently as it seemed not to fly for a while, before I found out it was sitting in a hanger awaiting maintenance refurb.
 
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:38 pm

What are my chances of getting a refurbished A330 on QF 23 to BKK on February 7, 15 ? Flying business and the new business class seat looks amazing.

Cheers from Brisbane,

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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:48 pm

Those 11 inch screens look amazing compared to the old product!
 
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:59 am

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 6):
No ATM it's EBA

Just to expand a bit, VH-EBA looks like it went into BNE maintenance on January 1st.

It looks like VH-EBI joined it on January 8th.

So depending on which one comes out first we will get our first look at the upgraded cabins featuring Q streaming in mid February.
 
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:02 am

Quoting bps3458 (Reply 24):
What are my chances of getting a refurbished A330 on QF 23 to BKK on February 7, 15 ? Flying business and the new business class seat looks amazing.

Pretty low I think. The initial ones will go on the SIN services first.
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:12 am

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 26):
It looks like VH-EBI joined it on January 8th.

VH-EBI went for a 2-week check apparently and is due to re-enter service today on QF41 to CGK after ferrying from BNE. No refit for that bird (yet, or ever as the rumour is that EBI could be one of the two going back to the lessor).
 
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:32 am

Anyone know if they made an improvement to the seat pitch? or is it still 31"
 
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:23 am

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 20):

I believe 2 of the A330-200 Internationals are going back to the leasing company.

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Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:56 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 21):
Hopefully it do it again, they don't wait till a couple months out again. This season just gone they put the flight on sale way to late, after NZ had already picked up the bulk of the passengers.

I just had a look at QF.com .. and I did a search PER AKL out 12Dec15 and in 26Dec15 and it is appearing the non-stop PER AKL flights are already loaded (well for these dates anyways).

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 27):

Quoting bps3458 (Reply 24):
What are my chances of getting a refurbished A330 on QF 23 to BKK on February 7, 15 ? Flying business and the new business class seat looks amazing.

Pretty low I think. The initial ones will go on the SIN services first.

I checked the movements of QPA (the first refurb'd 333) all the way up to 12 Feb from 28 Jan (Cause I am doing the same city pairs) and it is not happening. As SYDspotter said it is concentrating on rotating to SIN from both SYD and and MEL
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:05 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 29):
Anyone know if they made an improvement to the seat pitch? or is it still 31"

There might be a bit of extra knee room if the new seat backs are thinner, but pitch should be the same as before.

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 30):

Do the -200s still have designated crew rest seats in Y? I remember they did before the reconfigurations (due to JQ's operations with the same configuration) but it would be interesting if they had maintained them.
 
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:55 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 32):
Do the -200s still have designated crew rest seats in Y?

They still do -- it is the same as before, the pair of A/B window seats in rows 56 and 57.
 
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:56 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 32):

Yes, EBV had crew rest, only certain sectors crew rest is used.
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:01 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 32):
Do the -200s still have designated crew rest seats in Y? I remember they did before the reconfigurations (due to JQ's operations with the same configuration) but it would be interesting if they had maintained them.

The permanent crew rest on the International -200s is going as they are all getting the same domestic configuration. The domestic -200s have the four seats where crew rest can be activated or deactivated as required simply by the seats being removed from inventory and the curtain being extended in flight. It is only required (under the cabin crew EBA) on SYD-PER-SYD rotations where cabin crew operate both sectors back to back. It is being blocked on most (all?) PER flights for reasons unknown, but is nothing to do with the aircraft having been with JQ - the curtains were always present regardless.
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:42 am

Quoting bps3458 (Reply 24):
What are my chances of getting a refurbished A330 on QF 23 to BKK on February 7, 15 ? Flying business and the new business class seat looks amazing.

Cheers from Brisbane,

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As already quoted above the refurb A330's are rotating on the SYD/MEL-SIN route  

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Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:50 am

Quoting Singapore 777 (Reply 33):
Quoting JQflightie (Reply 34):

Thanks!

Quoting Ditzyboy (Reply 35):
It is only required (under the cabin crew EBA) on SYD-PER-SYD rotations where cabin crew operate both sectors back to back. It is being blocked on most (all?) PER flights for reasons unknown, but is nothing to do with the aircraft having been with JQ - the curtains were always present regardless.

Never realised that the rest seats were used/blocked for some domestic services -- I just assumed that they were there on the domestic aircraft to keep things consistent across the whole fleet.

Am I right in thinking that the rest seats are just standard Y seats on the domestic fleet (ie no additional pitch like the international aircraft)? Does this impact on QF's ability to send them on longer flights?
 
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:20 pm

Quoting Singapore 777 (Reply 17):
The A330s that are coming back from JQ will not be getting the same treatment in Y as the international birds as they will only be getting new seat covers and will have QF-supplied iPads which will stream content from the Qstreaming system onboard.

I understand that, I was just thinking that with additional A330s coming into the fleet (minus two being returned) unless there is an increase in east-west flying there will be a lot of spare A330 capacity.

Ipads aren't really a barrier to international services, especially low yielding routes MNL, CGK - not ideal, but not a barrier, just look how long 767s flew to HNL for. Crew rest facilities are a different story, again what did the 767 have?

New economy seats look great, those covers if used will add some nice colour to the 738s after their refurb too.
 
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Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:01 am

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 38):
I understand that, I was just thinking that with additional A330s coming into the fleet (minus two being returned) unless there is an increase in east-west flying there will be a lot of spare A330 capacity.

Plus there are a couple of aircraft out of action at BNE, which means that they will have at least four spares, probably five by my rough calculations, once the reconfigurations are complete (one of these has already been assigned to NRT).

I was really hoping that a few of the -200s would get the same Y treatment as the -300s and see regular use internationally. If they've got to replace the seats on some planes anyway (the international ones) then why not make them the latest/greatest seats?
 
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Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:50 am

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 38):
I understand that, I was just thinking that with additional A330s coming into the fleet (minus two being returned) unless there is an increase in east-west flying there will be a lot of spare A330 capacity.
Quoting qf002 (Reply 39):
I was really hoping that a few of the -200s would get the same Y treatment as the -300s and see regular use internationally. If they've got to replace the seats on some planes anyway (the international ones) then why not make them the latest/greatest seats?

In terms of A330 International usage we have the following:

SYD/MEL/BNE - SIN - 4 A330's
SYD-BKK - 1 A330
SYD-PVG - 1 A330
SYD-HNL - 1.33 A330's - (4 x per week)
SYD-MNL - 1.33 A330's - (4 x per week)
SYD-CGK - 1.33 A330's - (3 to 4 x per week)
MEL/BNE - HKG - 2 A330's
BNE/XXX - NRT - 1 A330

So by my basic reckoning there must be at least 11 A330's assigned to International flying to cover all of these. (12 depending on which days CGK and MNL operate. If they operate on the same day there are potentially 12 needed) So some A332 capacity has to be part of the International scheduling.
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:06 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 39):
I was really hoping that a few of the -200s would get the same Y treatment as the -300s and see regular use internationally. If they've got to replace the seats on some planes anyway (the international ones) then why not make them the latest/greatest seats?

I agree it would have made sense to install the -300 Y seat into the former international -200 Y seats. QF must have felt that they could use the former domestic -200s with PTVs for the occasions that one needs to operate internationally.

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 40):

HNL tends to be operated by -200s more often than -300s, and CGK seems to alternate between -200s & -300s. Should allow enough room for the other routes to be operated by -300s.
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:45 am

Quoting Singapore 777 (Reply 33):

I thought that they moved from the left side to the right.
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:48 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 37):
Am I right in thinking that the rest seats are just standard Y seats on the domestic fleet (ie no additional pitch like the international aircraft)? Does this impact on QF's ability to send them on longer flights?

The air distribution system provides additional conditioned air to that location.
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:14 am

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 40):
So by my basic reckoning there must be at least 11 A330's assigned to International flying to cover all of these. (12 depending on which days CGK and MNL operate. If they operate on the same day there are potentially 12 needed) So some A332 capacity has to be part of the International scheduling.

Once we include NRT, I agree. Hopefully that -200 will be assigned to a daily CGK or MNL service rather than just being scattered around (and creating an inconsistent offering in Y).

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 41):
HNL tends to be operated by -200s more often than -300s, and CGK seems to alternate between -200s & -300s. Should allow enough room for the other routes to be operated by -300s.

Don't forget that there is a -300 out of service at the moment, which means that there will be an extra -200 flying around internationally to cover the gap.
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:41 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 37):
Am I right in thinking that the rest seats are just standard Y seats on the domestic fleet (ie no additional pitch like the international aircraft)? Does this impact on QF's ability to send them on longer flights?

They are standard Y seats on the domestic aircraft and can be used by customers where required. The FAAA approves the various crew rest facilities. I am not aware of there being a limit for how long a duty can be before the domestic standard rest facility becomes unsuitable as far as the FAAA is concerned. The international -300s have, until now, been standard Y seats with standard pitch/recline and a permanent noise insulating curtain. They can, however be used by customers if required under rare/limited circumstances. An individual safety briefing may be required. The international -200s had increased pitch and recline (and noise insulating curtains) but are not certified for use (by anyone) for take off and landing. The increased pitch is more than what is approved for the standard Y seats that were used.

Quoting Tod (Reply 42):
I thought that they moved from the left side to the right.

The -200 seats were being discussed. The crew rest on the 333s has moved from the left to the right (as you point out) and pitch has increased (yay!).
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:42 am

Quoting Tod (Reply 42):
I thought that they moved from the left side to the right.

On the A330-300, that is correct.

On the domestic configuration A330-200 (VH-EBV currently), it is still at the same position (left-hand side rear two rows).
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:37 am

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 40):

I thinking that we may see that the BNE/XXX-NRT maybe a A332R being rotated in a Triangular routing.....
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:34 am

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 47):
I thinking that we may see that the BNE/XXX-NRT maybe a A332R being rotated in a Triangular routing.....

Could be. But with more A330's passing through SYD than BNE or MEL it could be easier to fit an A332 in with domestic flying from SYD rather than BNE or MEL? I also tend to agree that HNL is a prime A332 route due to the JQ 787 taking over the route and the increase in capacity that will generate. Then again SYD-SIN, CGK and MNL have all seen the A332 operate sectors so once all of the modifications are done who knows!
 
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RE: Qantas A330 -300 & -200 Refurbishment

Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:46 am

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 48):

Not if PER is the mystery port that is going to NRT... Also if it's going to be operated by SH Cabin Crew, the aircraft could do a triangulation PER-BNE-NRT-PER   just something to think about  
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