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Has AC Started To Withdraw Its 763s And A330s?

Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:49 pm

Hi,

Has AC started to withdraw its 763s and A330s?

When will they all be winthdrawn?

Regards

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Has AC Started To Withdraw Its 763s And A330s?

Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:57 pm

The A330s are safe for the near term, the 763s are slowly going, it seems they're just transferring to Rouge at this point.

In terms of when they'll be gone from mainline I'd say (and this is a guess) that it'll be within the next decade.

[edited to add second sentence]

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Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:05 pm

Quoting LY777 (Thread starter):
Has AC started to withdraw its 763s and A330s?

Currently, six of the eight A330 are somewhere between Europe and either YUL or YYZ, one is at YVR and one at ICN.

C-GFAF AC847 MUC-LHR-GVA-YUL

C-GFUR AC875 FRA-YUL

C-GHKR flew as AC7167 YYC-ICN January 4th.

C-GHKW AC833 BRU-YUL

C-GHKX flew AC195 YUL-YVR Jan 18th.

C-GHLM AC865 LHR-YUL

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Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:09 pm

The AC A330-300 fleet is fair young at only 10 years old. Probably going to be around for a while.
 
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Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:21 pm

Quoting SaschaYHZ (Reply 1):
In terms of when they'll be gone from mainline I'd say (and this is a guess) that it'll be within the next decade.

I think it's safe to say that 763 will be leaving mainline by the end of this decade (not a decade from now). That covers the deliveries of the initial order of 787s. And in the next decade, I'll think we'll see a follow-on order to cover the 767s flying with Rouge and the 333s. The 767 fleet is just under 15 years old on average.
 
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Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:24 pm

Where do the 763s still fly?
I know that they are replaced by 787s on YYZ-TLV and YYZ-CDG for example (YYZ-CDG will be operated by 77Ws in Summer)
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Has AC Started To Withdraw Its 763s And A330s?

Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:25 pm

Quoting ytz (Reply 4):
The 767 fleet is just under 15 years old on average.

So the 767s acquired from CP merger and the 1993 initial AC order are all sold and flying with other carriers?
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Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:27 pm

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 6):
So the 767s acquired from CP merger and the 1993 initial AC order are all sold and flying with other carriers?

Did I say anything of the sort?
 
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Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:32 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 3):
The AC A330-300 fleet is fair young at only 10 years old.

Since the youngest in the fleet is 13.5 years and the oldest 15.4, you may want to adjust your data.

http://www.planespotters.net/Product...&type=A330&fleet=471&fleetStatus=1
 
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Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:35 pm

Quoting ytz (Reply 7):
Did I say anything of the sort?

No, but those mentioned aircraft are at least 20 years old; just asking if they are still flying with AC or another airline.

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Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:38 pm

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 9):
No, but those mentioned aircraft are at least 20 years old; just asking if they are still flying with AC or another airline.

C-FCAB -375ER is almost 27 y.o. and still with AC, as well as several others.

http://www.planespotters.net/Product...g&type=767&fleet=471&fleetStatus=1
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:20 am

Will all of the AC 763ERs being transferred over to AC-R be fitted with the blended winglets? Seems pretty feasible for operating costs since they are older.

Will we eventually see the A330s replaced with 787-9s?
Is AC happy with their A330s? Seems like many of them operate out of YUL more so than YVR/YYC/YYZ.
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:45 am

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 6):
Quoting ytz (Reply 4):
The 767 fleet is just under 15 years old on average.

So the 767s acquired from CP merger and the 1993 initial AC order are all sold and flying with other carriers?

No, many of those 763s are still with AC.
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:14 am

Quoting ytz (Reply 4):
I think it's safe to say that 763 will be leaving mainline by the end of this decade (not a decade from now).

While that was the fleet plan 4 years ago, it has drastically changed in the last year.

AC is now trying to get a hold of any suitable B767-300ERs they can. None are leaving the combined mainline/rouge fleet and the new additions will go to both. It is now a balance between the two fleets.

AC also announced the possibility of the new J product and Y+ product being installed in the B767s as well as winglets in mainline, (in addition to the previously planned ones at rouge). The new, totally digital cockpit installation is presently being assessed.

The A330s are staying to the end of the fleet plan, so far. In addition to the previously announced Y+ product, the new J product is going into this fleet as well.
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:25 am

That seems to be a very good sign for AC.
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:26 am

Quoting SaschaYHZ (Reply 1):
the 763s are slowly going, it seems they're just transferring to Rouge at this point.

Not anymore.

Quoting LY777 (Reply 5):
Where do the 763s still fly?

Lots of places. Mostly TATL and on premium NA routes, like YYZ-LAX and YYZ-YVR.

Quoting longhauler (Reply 13):
While that was the fleet plan 4 years ago, it has drastically changed in the last year.

Yeah, my understanding is that all additional 763s in the Rouge fleet will come from outside the airline.
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:55 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 5):
Where do the 763s still fly?

I've seen a couple at SFO in the last week. I was surprised; I thought AC was only flying narrow-bodies here...
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:01 am

Quoting warden145 (Reply 16):
I've seen a couple at SFO in the last week. I was surprised; I thought AC was only flying narrow-bodies here...

Yeah, I forgot they had added that. LAX has regularly had a widebody for years, but that one is newer.
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:22 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 5):
Where do the 763s still fly?

From Toronto to Bogota, Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paulo (seasonal), Santiago-Buenos Aires (seasonal), Barbados (seasonal), London (daylight flight), Istanbul, Milan, Los Angeles, San Francisco

From Ottawa to London, Frankfurt (seasonal)

From Halifax to London

From Edmonton to London (seasonal)

Could be missing some...
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:43 am

Also Vancouver to Seoul and Vancouver to Beijing until they're replaced by 787.
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:51 am

Quoting longhauler (Reply 13):
While that was the fleet plan 4 years ago, it has drastically changed in the last year.

AC is now trying to get a hold of any suitable B767-300ERs they can. None are leaving the combined mainline/rouge fleet and the new additions will go to both. It is now a balance between the two fleets.

Can you shed any light on why the change of plan? Are they still expecting the same number of 787s? I'm always curious to know what AC is up to.
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:53 am

Also,

YYZ-ZRH

I'm sure there are others.
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:03 am

Quoting aerolimani (Reply 20):
Can you shed any light on why the change of plan? Are they still expecting the same number of 787s? I'm always curious to know what AC is up to.

It makes huge sense for AC. They have a relatively low population market and can command a revenue premium for their product on transcons as well. The 763ER has low acquisition costs, is a type they have 33 years experience with (in various forms), is still quite efficient and supports what they need it for. DL flies approximately eleventy billion of them for the same reasons.
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:47 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):
It makes huge sense for AC. They have a relatively low population market and can command a revenue premium for their product on transcons as well. The 763ER has low acquisition costs, is a type they have 33 years experience with (in various forms), is still quite efficient and supports what they need it for. DL flies approximately eleventy billion of them for the same reasons.

Yes, this I understand already. I can understand how it's a perfectly fine aircraft for AC. I guess I should clarify my question.

As far as I used to understand it, AC was going to move the 763 out of mainline fleet pretty much entirely; getting rid of some altogether, and sending some to Rouge. I assumed they were to be replaced with 788s. Now, longhauler is telling us that AC is not only keeping them all (between mainline and Rouge), but are also looking to purchase more. If this is the case, are they now going to receive less 788s than originally planned/forecast? Or, are they are expanding more than previously planned, through some mix of mainline and Rouge expansion? Or, is it something else I haven't thought of??
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:28 am

If UA is getting rid of 10 763s, hopefully AC will keep them flying. Don't AC's also have PW engines? UA's do.
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:45 am

AC's remaining mainline fleet is GE powered. Only a few have gone across to Rouge and they're still common at LHR.

http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Air%20Canada.htm
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:29 am

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 2):
C-GFAF AC847 MUC-LHR-GVA-YUL

A bit off topic, but was wondering why the MUC-LHR-GVA routing? Do AC sell tickets on these segments?
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:43 am

Quoting KaiTak747 (Reply 26):
A bit off topic, but was wondering why the MUC-LHR-GVA routing? Do AC sell tickets on these segments?

   No. That's weird. I originally posted the routing for all eight aircraft and then edited my post, not on that part, and this is the result. Only six aircraft are still there.

Since I still have the paper on which I wrote the data, here's how it should read:

C-GFAF AC847 MUC-YYZ

C-GFAH AC869 LHR.YYZ

C-GFAJ AC835 GVA-YUL

the five others are alright.
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:04 pm

Quoting aerolimani (Reply 23):
As far as I used to understand it, AC was going to move the 763 out of mainline fleet pretty much entirely; getting rid of some altogether, and sending some to Rouge.

Not anymore. The 763 just makes way too much sense for them.

Quoting aerolimani (Reply 23):
Or, is it something else I haven't thought of??

I'd imagine the A330s will eventually shift out of the fleet, as a bit of an oddball now. That said, AC likes them and they are fantastic planes for what AC does with them.

Quoting aerolimani (Reply 23):
If this is the case, are they now going to receive less 788s than originally planned/forecast?

There is no indication of that, unless the plan is to switch to the 789, as most have.

Quoting aerolimani (Reply 23):
Or, are they are expanding more than previously planned, through some mix of mainline and Rouge expansion?

Remember that Rouge is capped by the pilot contract. Its mostly mainline.

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 27):
C-GFAJ AC835 GVA-YUL

Last I checked, YUL-GVA is being operated by an A330.
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:27 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 28):
Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 27):
C-GFAJ AC835 GVA-YUL

Last I checked, YUL-GVA is being operated by an A330.

Indeed, and last I checked C-GFAJ is an A330.


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Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:44 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 12):
No, many of those 763s are still with AC.

Yes. The ones from CP are still with AC, but I'm not seeing any of the aircraft AC supposedly ordered directly from Boeing 1993-1997, just the ones leased from GECAS.

http://www.planespotters.net/Product...g&type=767&fleet=471&fleetStatus=1

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Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:48 pm

I noticed that they are being used domestically more; Toronto-Vancouver, Toronto-Calgary.
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:51 pm

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 30):
but I'm not seeing any of the aircraft AC supposedly ordered directly from Boeing 1993-1997

They are with Rouge.
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:32 pm

Quoting aerolimani (Reply 23):
As far as I used to understand it, AC was going to move the 763 out of mainline fleet pretty much entirely; getting rid of some altogether, and sending some to Rouge. I assumed they were to be replaced with 788s. Now, longhauler is telling us that AC is not only keeping them all (between mainline and Rouge), but are also looking to purchase more.

I can't help but wonder if AC isn't looking very closely at fuel prices to set goals for any increase in the 763 fleet. I'm sure that there is a cross over point at which the 763 acquired at a really good price makes a good deal of sense vs loading up on the latest technology fresh out of the factory, even if the latter is 25% more fuel efficient. The problem is predicting fuel prices five or ten years down the road.

Speaking as an anutter, the coolest part of this would be winglets added.
 
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Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:02 pm

Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 33):
Speaking as an anutter, the coolest part of this would be winglets added.

Nah .... THIS would be the coolest part:

http://www.rockwellcollins.com/Data/...B9FB0A3B941C4B40BC70C5ECB1A46.ashx
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Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:29 am

Quoting longhauler (Reply 34):
Nah .... THIS would be the coolest part:

I'm in.

Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 33):
Speaking as an anutter, the coolest part of this would be winglets added.

On second thought, this could lead to a WAT being levied on passengers (Winglets Added Tax).
  
 
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Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:20 am

Quoting warden145 (Reply 16):
I've seen a couple at SFO in the last week. I was surprised; I thought AC was only flying narrow-bodies here...

It was for many years until recently. Mostly A319/A320s.
I used to fly SFO-YYZ back in the days when I went to SJSU and USF when AC flew the noonish flight with a 762ER.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):

Also,

YYZ-ZRH

I believe this is being changed to a 787-8?
 
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Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:47 am

Quoting laca773 (Reply 36):
I believe this is being changed to a 787-8?

Last year it was operated for a while with a 787. Now it's again a 767.

Quoting LY777 (Reply 5):
Where do the 763s still fly?

Here's one example with C-GSCA. These are the rotations it flew between January 14th and 20th:

YYZ-YYT-YYZ / YYZ-LIM-YYZ / YYZ-YUL-YYZ / YYZ-YOW-LHR / LHR-YYC-LHR / LHR-YYZ / YYZ-SFO-YYZ / YYZ-ZRH-YYZ / YYZ-YHZ-YYZ
 
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Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:15 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 32):
They are with Rouge.

Yes, but the information shown still doesn't show when they were delivered from Boeing, only when they were delivered from the leasing company like GECAS.

Did AC sell then leaseback all their original order 763s?

http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/A...r%20Canada%20Rouge-active-b767.htm
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Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:45 pm

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 38):
Yes, but the information shown still doesn't show when they were delivered from Boeing, only when they were delivered from the leasing company like GECAS.

Did AC sell then leaseback all their original order 763s?

Click on the MSN number in the link you provided at it shows the aircraft history. E.g. MWP was delivered to AC Aug 10, 1993
 
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Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:29 am

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 37):
Here's one example with C-GSCA. These are the rotations it flew between January 14th and 20th:

YYZ-YYT-YYZ / YYZ-LIM-YYZ / YYZ-YUL-YYZ / YYZ-YOW-LHR / LHR-YYC-LHR / LHR-YYZ / YYZ-SFO-YYZ / YYZ-ZRH-YYZ / YYZ-YHZ-YYZ

Another ex-CP 763 (C-FXCA) routing for the 10 day period January 11-21:

YHZ-LHR-YYZ-LHR-YYZ-GIG-YYZ-YYC-NRT-YYC-OGG-YYC-YYZ-YYC-OGG-YYC-YYZ-YVR-PEK-YVR
 
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Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:21 pm

Quoting aerolimani (Reply 23):
As far as I used to understand it, AC was going to move the 763 out of mainline fleet pretty much entirely; getting rid of some altogether, and sending some to Rouge. I assumed they were to be replaced with 788s. Now, longhauler is telling us that AC is not only keeping them all (between mainline and Rouge), but are also looking to purchase more. If this is the case, are they now going to receive less 788s than originally planned/forecast? Or, are they are expanding more than previously planned, through some mix of mainline and Rouge expansion? Or, is it something else I haven't thought of??

The following factors are at play.
1. Rouge is proving very successful despite the moaning of some particularly on ANet. So more aircraft have been needed there, with both A320 and B763 being sought for lease. Some A320 for infill until the 73Max arrives at the mainline. Oldest 763's approaching expensive checks have been returned. Lower airtime aircraft were transfered and kept longer than orginally planned.
2. Expansion into new routes at the mainline is happening quicker than the 788 and 789 and additional 77W's can arrive.
3. A333 is a great aircraft filling in medium haul international routes as as Longhauler has said will be outfitted with new product. I would imagine they will stay in the fleet a good long time unless a bunch of 787 slots open quickly.
4. Similar to the 762 and 763 split, the majority of 787 will be 789 over 788.
5. The current aviation fuel prices has little or nothing to do with these plans. NO business is going to make long term plans based on such a volatile area that can change very quickly. Other than do some massive hedging to keep as much fuel at this price as possible of course. To make fleet plans would be absolutely asinine when something happens to shorten supply. We have seen where one massive refinery fire has made had dramatic affect on the market.
 
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Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:37 am

Having flown on the A330s many times, I'm glad they're staying in the fleet. They're a nice ride, my favourite Airbus. A nice fit between the 767s/788s and 777s, though the 789s may bite into their future. But not for quite a while I'm guessing.

They may end up being the last Airbus type in the AC mainline fleet.

The news about acquiring more 767s is interesting, I hadn't heard it before. Another of my favourite types, very versatile aircraft that can make money both domestic and overseas.

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Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:58 pm

As for the 788 speculation. The AC order book has it's first -9 coming in July. From there its going to be a pretty long run of 789s. The order is back filled with -8s but I would be shocked if they ever arrive. I would expect those airframes to become 789s most certainly and when time to exercise options expect a mix of -9s and -10s.

As for the 767s, AC still has originally purchased 767s still flying at the mainline. All the PW frames are at Rouge but the four GE powered airframes are still at the mainline. FINs 658-661.
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RE: Has AC Started To Withdraw Its 763s And A330s?

Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:37 am

Quoting Sixtyseven (Reply 43):
All the PW frames are at Rouge but the four GE powered airframes are still at the mainline. FINs 658-661.

C-GHLQ (FIN 658) has been out of service since November 17. It is most likely at Paya Lebar, where the other former mainline frames went for conversion to Rouge. C-GHLT (FIN 659) appears to have just made that trip as well this weekend.
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RE: Has AC Started To Withdraw Its 763s And A330s?

Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:38 pm

Quoting Sixtyseven (Reply 43):
As for the 788 speculation. The AC order book has it's first -9 coming in July. From there its going to be a pretty long run of 789s. The order is back filled with -8s but I would be shocked if they ever arrive. I would expect those airframes to become 789s most certainly and when time to exercise options expect a mix of -9s and -10s.

I agree. Once the 789's start getting assimilated into the fleet and they see other's actual economic numbers come in, fewer of the 8's ordered will be taken up. AC has in their order the ability to transfer between models up to a certain amount of lead time before the longest lead manufacturing items. So they can be switched easily from 8's to 9's. When the original order was made the 10 wasn't on offer yet so I don't know if they could upgauge further or not within the agreement. I doubt Boeing would complain though.

With the need for the older aircraft infill until new aircraft arrive, I fully expect additional options to be exercised shortly.
 
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RE: Has AC Started To Withdraw Its 763s And A330s?

Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:17 am

I recall reading elsewhere sometime ago that the order book for the 787 had already been changed. From what I recall,it's 12 788 and 25 789. The last 788 delivery is expected later this year.

The original order was for 60 firm and options, I believe some of the options were converted to 77W's. There are still some options outstanding that could be to 787-10's

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