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Delta's Royal Service

Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:56 pm

When did Delta start and end Royal Service, and what was it? IIRC it was first class on medium to long haul domestic meal flights, but was it just branding or did they do something different than other meal flights? I also think it was offered on the entire fleet, not just TriStars. I know they had it in the 70s and 80s but I think it goes back further than that.
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:07 pm

Royal Service started with the DC-6 or DC-7, not the Tri Star. LOL
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:16 pm

Right, I said I believe it started before the 70s before TriStars or widebodies even existed. My point was it was not just aircraft specific, like the TriStar, in the later years. For example, at one time American only offered Flagship service on certain long-haul widebody flights, LuxuryLiners, but not on LuxuryJet flights, like the 727s.
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:03 am

Did a Google search and found this article....

http://www.starling-travel.com/2009/11/26/delta-royal-service-flights/
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:32 am

Royal Service featured "prestige catering on selected flights."

It went way back to the 60s and those timetables with the railroad-like itineraries (readiing from top to bottom), would feature a big 'RS'.

All that and Convair 880s too!
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:33 am

Quoting AFCJETS (Reply 2):
Flagship service on certain long-haul widebody flights

AA still calls F and J on long haul and transcons flagship service. Even the F lounge and check in for OW emeralds and international F is called the flagship lounge and checkin respectively.

My thought the DL is an Advertising gimic from the days when prices where the same for the route and the only competitive advantage was the level of service.
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:08 am

I remember many DL Royal Service flights back in the 80's on the TriStars. I think I got RS on some on 727s as well. The difference between RS and regular meal service was basically the addition of a shrimp cocktail and a pre-made ice cream sundae. The sundae was presented in one of the same rounded glasses that they served cocktails in. They threw a spritz of Redi-Whip on it before serving. They took a long time to eat b/c they were really frozen! Kitschy, but really wonderful.
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:09 am

I know some of the ATL-SLC flights in the 80s (727s) were Royal Service. We used to take advantage of the unused shrimp cocktails and ice cream sundaes before we started cleaning the a/c.
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:54 pm

Quoting 747d10 (Reply 6):
The difference between RS and regular meal service was basically the addition of a shrimp cocktail and a pre-made ice cream sundae.

I miss those sundaes! I recall they had chocolate or strawberry, and then they also had lemon sorbet in those same cups. I remember being a kid flying up and down the east coast on the L-1011 and getting those sundaes.

What was the differentiaiton between RS and Medallion service? Was Medallion just the TATL flights to LGW, FRA, and SNN?
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:05 pm

Weren't Delta's lounges called Crown Rooms up until the merger with NW, I think. I believe some of the DC-7s actually had a Crown logo on them. I think Delta was into the Royal Crown thing.
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:31 pm

Quoting catiii (Reply 8):
What was the differentiaiton between RS and Medallion service? Was Medallion just the TATL flights to LGW, FRA, and SNN?

I believe Medallion was indeed the name for transatlantic business class, which appeared in the late 70s. It started off as a designated section behind first class in the L1011-500s (using coach seats) and then got fancier as time went on and competition got more intense.

I am not sure when the name 'Medallion' was dropped. Delta had dedicated First and business cabins right up through the mid-90s until Biz Elite came along as a First/Business hybrid.
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:02 pm

The whole "royal" concept has been used and overused by so many carriers. Northwest Orient had "Regal Imperial", BA has used something similar. Time to let that thing retire.
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:11 pm

I agree, when did it stop? Did RS make it into the 90s at all?
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:44 pm

Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 9):

Weren't Delta's lounges called Crown Rooms up until the merger with NW, I think.

Crown Room Club. Yep.
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:46 pm

Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 9):
I believe some of the DC-7s actually had a Crown logo on them.

They did.



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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:11 pm

Quoting 747d10 (Reply 6):
I remember many DL Royal Service flights back in the 80's on the TriStars. I think I got RS on some on 727s as well. The difference between RS and regular meal service was basically the addition of a shrimp cocktail and a pre-made ice cream sundae. The sundae was presented in one of the same rounded glasses that they served cocktails in. They threw a spritz of Redi-Whip on it before serving. They took a long time to eat b/c they were really frozen! Kitschy, but really wonderful.

Further back in the 70's, ala DC-8-51's, transcons from ATL to LAX/SFO had meal carts with carved prime rib, also ice cream cakes for dessert, in addition to the shrimp cocktails. Service on the L10's was not as good.
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:34 pm

Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 9):

Weren't Delta's lounges called Crown Rooms up until the merger with NW, I think. I believe some of the DC-7s actually had a Crown logo on them. I think Delta was into the Royal Crown thing.

The original livery on the 880s was a "Crown" motif, which was changed when the fleet was changed to the "Widget" livery.


From the Delta Museum website:

1958 Luxurious Douglas DC-7 Royal Service first-class flights offer three—instead of the usual two—flight attendants, boarding music by Muzak, complimentary champagne and steaks cooked to order. Children receive Delta’s first “kiddie wings” souvenir pins.


http://www.deltamuseum.org/exhibits/...elta-history/timeline/decades/1950

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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:58 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Crown Room Club. Yep.

DL had a Crown Room here in MSP for years that they inherited from Western. It closed not long after 9/11, then of course DL inherited NW's WorldClubs years later.
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:06 pm

Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 9):
I think Delta was into the Royal Crown thing.

Yet ironically I doubt if they ever served Royal Crown cola...   
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:15 pm

Royal Service was common on 727 flights, but I don't ever remember seeing it on a DC9 ?? It actually sounds kind of odd, Royal Service on a DC9 lol

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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:57 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 16):

Were those meals any good? It seems jokes about airline meals have been around since the dawn of commercial aviation. Just wondering if there was a time when they were good or were elaborate meals a marketing gimmick in the regulated environment pre-PTV, pre-lie flat, pre-wifi onboard, etc.
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:26 am

Quoting questions (Reply 20):
Were those meals any good? It seems jokes about airline meals have been around since the dawn of commercial aviation. Just wondering if there was a time when they were good or were elaborate meals a marketing gimmick in the regulated environment pre-PTV, pre-lie flat, pre-wifi onboard, etc.

Seems like the entree was either steak or salmon with those meals.
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:31 am

Thinking back to the 70's and 80's, I remember how Americans always marketed steak as the ultimate "nice food" without really thinking about what a rich sea life we have on our planet. Yes, it seems lobster might have become a classic first class entree at some point, but it wasn't really until the 90's that more complicated dishes made their debut on the plane.
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:38 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 21):
Seems like the entree was either steak or salmon with those meals.

That's right, I had lasagna on a Royal Crown service flight.   
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:54 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 21):

The meals weren't actually anything spectacular. Of course they were better than anything served today, but it was really more of an advertising thing. I took several flights where Royal service was offered. It was the Delta flight attendants that made the service special. Of course, this was the old DL.
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:38 am

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 11):
The whole "royal" concept has been used and overused by so many carriers. Northwest Orient had "Regal Imperial", BA has used something similar. Time to let that thing retire.

Until KLM dropped first class service, it was called Royal Class. I remember they were unhappy when CP Air introduced their upgraded J class product and called it Royal Canadian Class.
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:30 am

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 11):

Agreed, but compared to the service today, it really was "royal." Times have changed I know, but there are still some carriers out there who do provide excellent service in the premium cabins on international flights. It just isn't any of the U.S carriers. But with billion dollar profits, I see no reason why they can't invest and become truly competitive.
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:54 am

Quoting DDR (Reply 26):

But with billion dollar profits, I see no reason why they can't invest and become truly competitive.

As the record profits show, they're ALREADY truly competitive.
 
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RE: Delta's Royal Service

Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:10 pm

Quoting DDR (Reply 26):
, but compared to the service today, it really was "royal." Times have changed I know, but there are still some carriers out there who do provide excellent service in the premium cabins on international flights. It just isn't any of the U.S carriers

You can't compare DFW-LGA or DTW-MIA with JFK-LHR. Totally different product. Don't expect gourmet meals when you don't want to spend more than $99 each way.
 
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Re: Delta's Royal Service

Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:13 pm

During 70's & Early 80's Longest DL ROUTE WAS SJU-LAX on DC8-61 "RS" with some "Polynesian Theme Menu" was catered on the flight.
 
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Re: Delta's Royal Service

Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:35 pm

I remember a DC-8-51 flight from LAX to DFW in 1967. The weather was atrocious the airplane was full. I was in F. The highlight of the flight was the announcement that due to the turbulence there would be no meal service in coach. However, for those in F, the champagne would be along shortly. The F class FA was a great lady named Dixie Goliday.
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Re: Delta's Royal Service

Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:41 pm

Oops! Duplicate post.
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Re: Delta's Royal Service

Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:45 pm

When Delta received it's CV880's the entire cabin was Royal Jet service with two by two seating
 
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Re: Delta's Royal Service

Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:13 pm

nikeherc wrote:
I remember a DC-8-51 flight from LAX to DFW in 1967. The weather was atrocious the airplane was full. I was in F. The highlight of the flight was the announcement that due to the turbulence there would be no meal service in coach. However, for those in F, the champagne would be along shortly. The F class FA was a great lady named Dixie Goliday.


I'm sure you meant DAL in 1967...DFW was just in concept/design stages at that time.

Isn't it amazing that we remember a few flight attendants names over the years.Now that I say that, I can't quite recall her name, but I sure remember the service and personality of one on AA from LIM to MIA in December of 1990. I know that somewhere I saved the back of the BP I wrote it on..ahh. those were the days!

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