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What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:20 am

What is something an owns/has that other airlines wouldn't mine having.

For example:
AA: MIA hub,
DL: LGA hub
UA: Having both a true European gateway and Asian gateway
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:37 am

Quoting DeltaXNA (Thread starter):
What is something an owns/has that other airlines wouldn't mine having.

meant to say "What is something an airline owns/has that other airlines wouldn't mine having."
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:39 am

AA: DFW
DL: ATL
UA: SFO/EWR

Global mega-hubs
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:05 am

Having connections with certain airlines. I'm sure every airline would love to have some kind of agreement with EK, QR, EY, or TK. In a way, alliances hinder that connection possibility.
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:09 am

Quoting DeltaXNA (Reply 1):
Quoting DeltaXNA (Thread starter):
What is something an owns/has that other airlines wouldn't mine having.

meant to say "What is something an airline owns/has that other airlines wouldn't mine having."

No... Meant to say "... wouldn't MIND having".

Simple. What they want and have are dedicated, courteous, professional staff. The human resource base. An incredibly vital asset.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:53 am

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 3):

That is only now
all the airlines that were higher priority for connections were already taken by the American carriers.
CX/SQ/QF etc

ME3 is only in the spotlight because they are basically the largest leftovers.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:15 pm

AA: MIA, DFW, LAX gates, LGA slots
UA: EWR, IAH, SFO
DL: LGA slots, ATL, MSP and DTW to a certain extent.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:35 pm

Quoting DeltaXNA (Thread starter):
What is something an owns/has that other airlines wouldn't mine having.

Tim Clark?
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:55 pm

100 prime time slots at LHR
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:00 pm

Quoting DeltaXNA (Thread starter):
What is something an owns/has that other airlines wouldn't mine having.

Great staff!

TG FAs come to mind - their hospitality is so genuine.

Staff that make customers want to return is vital.

Quoting trent1000 (Reply 4):
Simple. What they want and have are dedicated, courteous, professional staff. The human resource base. An incredibly vital asset.

  
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:31 pm

Quoting speedbored (Reply 7):
Tim Clark?

  
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:48 pm

Quoting DeltaXNA (Thread starter):
DL: LGA hub

I'm curious why LGA.

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 3):
In a way, alliances hinder that connection possibility.

Do alliances really hinder that? It seems like airlines will stick closest within their alliance... But as we've seen between UA and SQ for example, that doesn't mean that they'll play nicely. UA also does business with a few non-Star airlines, but I'm not quite sure if they actually do any codeshare/interline business with 1W or Skyteam carriers.
I do recall that they did have a Mileageplus agreement with EK, maybe QR too, but I'm not sure what happened to that... Really sad that it's gone now.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:18 pm

Quoting S75752 (Reply 11):

I'm curious why LGA.

Because DL's LGA hub is supposedly their most profitable currently. And since it is slot controlled, that makes it an important asset.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:07 pm

As a loyal AA employee.. It hurts to say this. since Delta actually "own" most of their planes, it's really puts them ahead of the game when it comes to profits in a competitive challenged market. I "think" that applies to SouthWest as well.. And even better for them since they only fly 737's

Am I might be shooting myself in the foot 3 years later for saying this. But at the moment. One of AA's greatest assets is its "in house" employees. I think we have more mainline employees at hubs and smaller downline stations compared to everyone else.. Don't think ready reserves count at Delta. when I go to work... I wear my uniform with pride. As cheesy as it sounds

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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:21 pm

Quoting DeltaXNA (Reply 12):
Because DL's LGA hub is supposedly their most profitable currently. And since it is slot controlled, that makes it an important asset.

Delta's LGA and JFK ops are not the runaway gold mine one would automatically think.


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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:29 pm

Quoting Thomaas (Reply 6):

DL: LGA slots, ATL, MSP and DTW to a certain extent.

I think for Delta ATL and JFK/LGA. SEA may one day be a valuable asset but I don't see it being a powerhouse because geographically it will never also be a domestic connecting hub like ATL and DFW (AA).

MSP and DTW are so close they seem redundant, however I don't understand the role they play in Delta's network strategy. (Can anyone shed some light?).

Interestingly the brand of the three major US airlines don't seem to have much value on the global stage in which they compete, unlike SQ, EY, QF, BA, etc.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:52 pm

I'd say for Delta, beyond the already mentioned hubs/strategic markets, their leadership, employees and their operation. DL runs a pretty smooth operation for the most part, on-time.
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Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:56 pm

Emirates: The geographic location of its Dubai hub and the 'can do' attitude that the airport and government has towards expansion.
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:24 pm

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 16):

Reguarding on-time.... In defense of all the other airlines, when the heck does ATL ever have bad weather? Compared to the northeast and southern coastal hubs... ATL is a goldmine as a hub just talking weather wise. AA has DFW but it gets too damn hot and humid which effects loads and the occasional torrential downpours

That's is mostly the main reason ATL has a great on time record
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:25 pm

I'd have to think DCA is a huge asset for AA.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:32 pm

CX - The "China Factor" meaning accessibility to mainland China through Dragonair and Air China. Plus Hong Kong is a major air cargo hub

TK - Location. I recently learnt that Istanbul is building the biggest airport in the World
EK - Also location, Dubai also building biggest airport in the world

SQ - Their employees, most professional cabin crew.

Jet Airways - has already done well on its own but will benefit with EY's partnership.

EY - Equity alliance will be their biggest asset. Its something new and interesting.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:47 pm

For AA, it's not MIA per se, but rather, the immense amount of route authorities from MIA to the multitude of Caribbean, Central American, and Latin American destinations.

Also, for any U.S. carrier, having a U.S. Postal Service contract. Granted mail volumes have declined over the years and will probably continue to decline, at least when it comes to first class, catalogs, and magazines. Still, that is a guarenteed revenue stream in addition to fares, fees, and cargo.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:50 pm

LH, LX, NZ, QF, BA, etc:
Worldwide reputation of being reliable, safe and bearing high standards in service and cabin on a classy level.

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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:27 pm

Quoting Phillyramp270 (Reply 18):
Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 16):

Reguarding on-time.... In defense of all the other airlines, when the heck does ATL ever have bad weather? Compared to the northeast and southern coastal hubs... ATL is a goldmine as a hub just talking weather wise. AA has DFW but it gets too damn hot and humid which effects loads and the occasional torrential downpours

That's is mostly the main reason ATL has a great on time record

Really? You've never heard of the summer thunderstorms that go through ATL in the summer on a near-daily basis in the afternoons? Or the times ATL gets any snow and it shuts everything down? It may not be quite as hot as DFW or IAH, but it gets dang hot here too with the 100% humidity. It isn't HNL or LAX down here ya know.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:47 pm

Quoting Phillyramp270 (Reply 18):
Reguarding on-time.... In defense of all the other airlines, when the heck does ATL ever have bad weather? Compared to the northeast and southern coastal hubs... ATL is a goldmine as a hub just talking weather wise. AA has DFW but it gets too damn hot and humid which effects loads and the occasional torrential downpours

That's is mostly the main reason ATL has a great on time record

Flying through ATL an average of 50-100 times per year the last few years, I disagree.

Every afternoon somehow looks like this video (which is actually from ATL!)

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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:15 pm

JetBlue actually has good customer service... I'd call that an enviable resource.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:27 pm

Quoting questions (Reply 15):
I don't understand the role they play in Delta's network strategy. (Can anyone shed some light?).

DTW is Delta's main Asian gateway. It is much less affected by snow than UA/AA's Chicago hub.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:12 pm

SQ: cabin crew- "Singapore Girl- you're a great way to fly"

"Singapore Girl" may be slightly misleading these days since a lot of them aren't Singaporean but the service is still top-notch and conaistent
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:34 pm

Quoting cageyjames (Reply 19):
I'd have to think DCA is a huge asset for AA.
AA has an obvious advantage of scale, which translates to corporate sales to the Fortune 500. It also allows them to juggle and economize on back-office functions such as IT, sales, aircraft procurement, refurbishment, pilot sims, etc.

In terms of hubs, DFW, MIA, DCA, CLT and PHL assets (all fortress hubs) are all, I believe, high revenue and good. Their cornerstone efforts at LAX, ORD, BOS,JFK and LGA (non-exclusive markets) just break even and are there to appeal to top business clients, in my opinion.

AA has fair-to-good labor relations and a management team who's done a lot with far less. Their ability to make money is standout. But labor relations could bring it all apart if a crisis hits. These good times never last forever.

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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:58 pm

Quoting S75752 (Reply 11):
Do alliances really hinder that? It seems like airlines will stick closest within their alliance... But as we've seen bet

They can. I'm sure (hypothetical) there are some things UA can do better with EK or EY, but do to the alliance issue (this is where politics come in), LH could have repercussions for UA if they choose to form deeper ties with any airline outside the alliance, an ME3, or airline in another alliance.
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:03 am

Quoting trent1000 (Reply 4):
Simple. What they want and have are dedicated, courteous, professional staff. The human resource base. An incredibly vital asset.

That's supposed to be the best asset........at least that what they tell us..........
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:10 am

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 24):
Every afternoon somehow looks like this video (which is actually from ATL!)

I'd respectfully disagree with this. I lived in Atlanta for 7 years and definitely agree the weather is a huge plus for the hub over ORD, EWR, SFO, DTW, MSP, etc... the only one that has it better in my mind is LAX.

Atlanta sits on top of a plateau which has this phenomenon that diverts massive storms out of Alabama to either the North or the South. Sure, from time to time we get a large storm just like anyone else, but for the most part I'd agree that one of Atlanta's strengths over all US hubs is the weather.
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:35 am

KLM: Schiphol as a hub!


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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:05 am

I'm surprised no one has mentioned BAs LHR hub. Its one of the most important cities in the world, huge O&D, perfect transit point for TATL flights, and one of the biggest tourist and economic destinations in the world. Couple that with the UK economy growing, LHR is one of the best hub cities in the world, if not the best.
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:33 am

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 33):
I'm surprised no one has mentioned BAs LHR hub. Its one of the most important cities in the world, huge O&D, perfect transit point for TATL flights, and one of the biggest tourist and economic destinations in the world. Couple that with the UK economy growing, LHR is one of the best hub cities in the world, if not the best.

LHR is also delay-prone and since it operates at about 99% of capacity all the time, even a minor disruption (weather etc.) usually means major chaos. I go out of my way to avoid LHR as a connecting hub. I only use it when I'm actually going to London, and even then I try to use LCY which fortunately has frequent service from GVA.

LHR's multiple-terminal design also makes connecting between carriers an ordeal when they don't use the same terminal. Even BA flights use 3 terminals at LHR.
 
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:01 am

ALL airlines greatest assets are the dedicated people who work for them.
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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:07 am

One of the greatest assets of any airline?


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RE: What Are Different Airlines Greatest Assets

Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:27 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 34):
LHR is also delay-prone and since it operates at about 99% of capacity all the time, even a minor disruption (weather etc.) usually means major chaos. I go out of my way to avoid LHR as a connecting hub. I only use it when I'm actually going to London, and even then I try to use LCY which fortunately has frequent service from GVA.

LHR's multiple-terminal design also makes connecting between carriers an ordeal when they don't use the same terminal. Even BA flights use 3 terminals at LHR.

You have valid points. But imagine if BA were to cease to exist overnight, there would be a huge void to be filled in the London market alone, and airlines would go out of their way and then some to invest more than a few pretty pennies to establish a hub even a quarter the size of BA. I'm sure the US airlines and the ME3 are salivating at more slots in LHR.
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