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Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:21 am

Big changes are planned but it will be interesting to see if they all get implemented.
Thai Airways is state owned and the meddling never ceases.

They state that the 747-400s and 340-600 will be gone. The 380s will be the only quad-jets left.

Madrid, Moscow, Los Angeles are likely to be axed in the second quarter.

These other routes are not profitable and may be axed by the fourth quarter: Rome, Milan, Brussels, Brisbane, Sapporo, Colombo, Denpasar, and Hyderabad.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/nati...ze-and-reduce-routes-30252743.html
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:24 am

WOW!

They are letting one in five go! And all 747s gone! This is a sad day.
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:32 am

The answer to what their problem is can be seen on the advertisements next to the article!
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:32 am

Noooooo! Not the 747! Thai is one of only two 747 passenger operators into Sydney! I wonder what they will replace the 747s with? 777-300ERs, A330s, Dreamliners or A380s???
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:48 am

A SE Asian carrier exiting out of a major Aussie market? EK really is having an effect...

And being from LAX, I'll be sad to see TG with its beautiful livery go. I loved seeing one of irs 777s descend over DTLA last year

[Edited 2015-01-27 00:49:42]
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:58 am

Quoting continental004 (Reply 4):
A SE Asian carrier exiting out of a major Aussie market? EK really is having an effect...

They are only considering cutting BNE which is the 3rd/4th biggest market out of Australia (SYD/MEL are the 2 biggest, PER vs BNE is a close race for the 3rd biggest). Interesting that even though TG are the only carrier who fly BNE-BKK non-stop, they couldn't make it work, which suggests the traffic is mostly leisure orientated. TG never really had any stronghold on Aus-Europe connecting traffic, and BKK is not the best place for any Aus-Asia connections either. CX/SQ rather than EK really hit TG hard (EK was the final straw).
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:14 am

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 3):
Noooooo! Not the 747! Thai is one of only two 747 passenger operators into Sydney! I wonder what they will replace the 747s with? 777-300ERs, A330s, Dreamliners or A380s???

I reacted exactly the same when I read the thread! Going to miss the TG Queen of the Skies down under & lucky I've had the privilege to fly TG B744's several times. The plans to operate A380 to SYD was scrapped in favour of CDG, FRA, LHR.

Quoting continental004 (Reply 4):
Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 5):

The loads haven't been very promising. TG have always struggled with the BNE route, prior to the direct route the flight operated via SYD. I'm curious if the A330 or B787 24J240Y would be better suited for the BNE route vs the B77W 42J306Y?

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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:42 am

Quoting olympic472 (Thread starter):
These other routes are not profitable and may be axed by the fourth quarter: Rome, Milan, Brussels, Brisbane, Sapporo, Colombo, Denpasar, and Hyderabad.

Not Brisbane   Surely a downgrade to an A330/787 would help this route. Every other service to Asia (excluding EK and CI during summer) is an A330/787 or smaller. Would be a huge shame to see TG cut BNE, but would almost definitely welcome JQ to the route... or another LCC, if not QF/EK.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:44 am

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 5):

Quoting continental004 (Reply 4):
A SE Asian carrier exiting out of a major Aussie market? EK really is having an effect...

They are only considering cutting BNE which is the 3rd/4th biggest market out of Australia (SYD/MEL are the 2 biggest, PER vs BNE is a close race for the 3rd biggest). Interesting that even though TG are the only carrier who fly BNE-BKK non-stop, they couldn't make it work, which suggests the traffic is mostly leisure orientated. TG never really had any stronghold on Aus-Europe connecting traffic, and BKK is not the best place for any Aus-Asia connections either. CX/SQ rather than EK really hit TG hard (EK was the final straw).

I think it would be a combination of the wrong type of aircraft on the route to BNE coupled with not the best arrival times in BKK - it doesn't allow for onward connections past BKK except to LHR or parts of Japan or China were they offer red eye flights. In my humble opinion, they should look at swapping the 772/773/77W combo to the 788 or 789, offer a morning departure from BKK to BNE and a red eye back to BKK, which would allow for better connections and put a more efficient aircraft on the route.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:34 am

Quoting Bluebird191 (Reply 8):
I think it would be a combination of the wrong type of aircraft on the route to BNE coupled with not the best arrival times in BKK - it doesn't allow for onward connections past BKK except to LHR or parts of Japan or China were they offer red eye flights. In my humble opinion, they should look at swapping the 772/773/77W combo to the 788 or 789,

Hmm didn't realise they used a 773/77W on the BNE service, which is probably a bit too much capacity.

The perfect timings for premium/business pax ex Australia are either a late afternoon/early departure to align with European transfers (morning Europe arrival) or a red-eye flight which arrives early morning Asia (for O&D and Asian transfers). Returning back to Australia, the red-eye ex-Asia which arrives early morning is the preferred time slots for business travellers (allows you to go straight from the airport to work- which isn't much fun!).
TG's 2pm departure from BNE aligns ok with TG's European services but intra-Asian transfers aren't ideal with a 8pm arrival into BKK. the red-eye arriving 12pm into BNE the next day also isn't ideal (great for leisure travellers who arrive at a reasonable hour).

If you look at SQ/CX's schedules into Australia, they have their schedules very well timed, albeit with 3x/4x daily frequencies, they obviously have more flexibility vs TG who only have the 1x daily.
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:58 am

[quote=SYDSpotter,reply=9]

It can still work - if they advertise it well they can snag connecting passengers through Asia with a red eye ex BNE. I agree with you that the 773/77W would be too much aircraft for BNE - which is why they often schedule in a 772 into the mix on "slower days". Their next smallest aircaft the A333 I understand hasn't got a good galley setup for longer flights as they don't have thee capability to heat the food. I could be wrong and am happy to be proven wrong on that. Othewise the 787's have been assigned onto other routes, their A340's are too premium heavy, and I dare not mention their narrow body fleet.

Please forgive my reply from my iPad. Regarding connections to Europe, CX and SQ - I took a 5 week trip around Europe back in 2011 and flew on SQ BNE-SIN-LHR vv with a red eye ex BNE. Loved the 3.30pm arrival into LHR - the 11.45pm ex BNE allowed for a 3 hour connection for a daylight flight and better scenery from the window. The double red eye on the journey home was a shocker (10.05pm departure ex LHR on SQ321, 6 hour connection before a 0.10am departure on SQ255) - it gave me a shocking case of jetlag which took 5 days to get over.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:04 am

Quoting olympic472 (Thread starter):
They state that the 747-400s and 340-600 will be gone. The 380s will be the only quad-jets left.

Does that mean we will finally see the A380 on the BKK-LHR route, or will they be down gauging?
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:11 am

Quoting olympic472 (Thread starter):
They state that the 747-400s and 340-600 will be gone. The 380s will be the only quad-jets left.

WOW. RIP, 744 and A346.

Quoting olympic472 (Thread starter):
Los Angeles

  


Well, I hope they are doing the right thing.

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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:23 am

Quoting Bluebird191 (Reply 10):
Their next smallest aircaft the A333 I understand hasn't got a good galley setup for longer flights as they don't have thee capability to heat the food.

Major oversight on TG's behalf if they set it up purely for regional ops. The A333 appears to be the aircraft of choice for Australia-Asia flights.

Quoting Bluebird191 (Reply 10):
The double red eye on the journey home was a shocker (10.05pm departure ex LHR on SQ321, 6 hour connection before a 0.10am departure on SQ255) - it gave me a shocking case of jetlag which took 5 days to get over.

The westbound flight is always easier to get your body clock adjusted, eastbound is a nightmare. On my trip to LHR for work a few years ago, we flew SYD-SIN-LHR on QF. It was the afternoon (4/5pm) departure ex SYD, arriving 10/11pm SIN, then an early morning arrival into LHR and straight into the office !!! The flight worked well (from my employers point of view anyway) as the 4pm departure meant I could get half a day's work in before my flight and then I would arrive first thing in the morning London time. That flight also meant on the 8hr SYD-SIN leg you could catch a movie/do some work and then get some proper sleep on the longer SIN-LHR leg whilst your body clock was never really that out of alignment.

Quoting jumpjets (Reply 11):
Does that mean we will finally see the A380 on the BKK-LHR route, or will they be down gauging?

I would've thought LHR would go A380 on one flight and a possible down-guage on their 2nd daily flight (77W perhaps?).
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:51 am

Why would they go from A320 to A330 on BKK-HYD if its under performing?
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:03 pm

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 13):
I would've thought LHR would go A380 on one flight and a possible down-guage on their 2nd daily flight (77W perhaps?).

- Or perhaps just go daily with an A380, lease out the other slot until they can fill a second daily flight, be it A380 or 77W?

Placing the A380 on the route over the 744 adds 2F, 20J and 110Y seats.

The 77W lacks F, and if replacing a 346 reduces J by 20 seats and economy seat count grows again by 107 seats.
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:09 pm

BNE, CTS, HYD will never be cut so long as the carrier is state owned. The inbound tourism potential is too great. Some losses are "bearable" to the government in the "bigger picture".
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:16 pm

Not surprised about MAD.

It worked well for them when there were no ME3 in Spain (until very recently), and customers booked holiday packages through travel agencies to go to Thailand and SE Asia.

Now everybody books through the Internet and there are multiple daily ME3+TK flights.

They were really a thing of the past there.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:26 pm

Very sad to see them suspend MAD. They are a long standing carrier at Madrid, they started operations in the 80s. I flew with them twice on that route and always had very nice experiences.
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:27 pm

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 17):

You hit on a key point: travel agents. TG's bread and butter to non-LHR/FRA Europe is IT packages, and those are becoming less relevant in the market.
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:22 pm

Quoting continental004 (Reply 4):
EK really is having an effect...

From what i understand, TG carries few passengers from Australia to Europe (At least in comparison to SQ, MH), with most pax being Australia to Thailand/ South East Asia. I think the problem is mostly the increase and overcapacity on Australia to South East Asia routes at current, and a decline in the number of Australia to Thailand travellers.

Quoting olympic472 (Thread starter):
Moscow

Slightly surprised at Moscow as the Russia to Thailand travel market is MASSIVE! All those Russian airlines flying into BKK must be forcing them out on their home turf!
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:30 pm

Quoting olympic472 (Thread starter):
Madrid

Not that I expect it or am counting on it, but it would be cool to see MAD-HKG by either Iberia or Cathay. Nonetheless, more than likely MAD-Asia is just becoming more and more the territory of the EU3 and ME3.

Quoting olympic472 (Thread starter):
Los Angeles

Sad, but likely inevitable - just as was the case for Malaysia. That market is just so long - Thai is likely better off just cooperating on connections via NRT/ICN or Europe.

Could be interesting to see what impact, if any, a Thai exit could have on the LAX-ICN market, though ...

Quoting olympic472 (Thread starter):
Brisbane
Quoting continental004 (Reply 4):
A SE Asian carrier exiting out of a major Aussie market? EK really is having an effect
Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 7):
Would be a huge shame to see TG cut BNE, but would almost definitely welcome JQ to the route

  

The ME3 definitely having an impact. I agree, though, that - absent Thai - BNE-BKK seems like a ripe opportunity for JetStar.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:35 pm

Quoting commavia (Reply 21):

TG is such a non player on the LAX-ICN market - it's still owned by the KE OZ duopoly

Maybe AA will think this is the opportunity to jump into the fool's gold
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:46 pm

this would be a big surprise as BKK is supposedly such a large business destination.........................at least those who make that claim b/c they are upset that UA dropped BKK.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:27 pm

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 23):
this would be a big surprise as BKK is supposedly such a large business destination.........................at least those who make that claim b/c they are upset that UA dropped BKK.

I think the biggest issue with TG and BKK is that BKK is one of the heaviest leisure destinations around, but TG wants to run their airline (and aircraft configurations) like CX and SQ.

As a passenger, I enjoy the (very easy) redemption of award seats from TG, frequently with all-aisle access flat bed, but as an airline, that's simply no way to compete against ME3 and Scandinavian/Russian tourism shuttles.

So sad to see the 346s go. From the airline's perspective it's a major gas guzzler but from a pax perspective, it's so much quieter than the 77W.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:40 pm

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 23):
this would be a big surprise as BKK is supposedly such a large business destination.........................at least those who make that claim b/c they are upset that UA dropped BKK.

Word on the street is that UA lost a large contract (military?) to DL, which therefore justified the logic for cutting the route.

Also important to remember that the UA-NH JV covers intra-Asia routes like NRTBKK, whereas DL does not have that luxury.

Despite BKK's tremendous size, Thailand is a low-yielding destination that has also been plagued by political unrest and a massive infiltration from ME3, particularly from Europe.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:49 pm

Anyone know which aircraft will then operate out of ZRH? (A346 at the moment)
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:52 pm

Quoting SR380 (Reply 26):
Anyone know which aircraft will then operate out of ZRH? (A346 at the moment)

Please make it 77W. I've been waiting for that route to go flat bed for so long (the 346 slanted flat is so uncomfortable).
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:12 pm

I was in BKK last Monday. I was very suprised to see two A 330s stored: HS-TEE and HS-TEG (plus of course several A 300's but that's the normal picture in BKK)
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:48 pm

For flights like BKK-BNE, perhaps the airline would be better served (and Brisbane too) if they offered a smaller aircraft than the 773 currently serving Queensland's largest city and capital once daily.

Likewise, perhaps they could make AKL-BKK more successful if they offered a smaller plane and went daily. Currently a thrice weekly 77E.

How many 788's are currently in the fleet?
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:22 pm

Quoting a380787 (Reply 27):
Please make it 77W.

...way too big! On many days a 737 is a waste of a/c.

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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:37 pm

I wonder if the 744s will all be shipped off to Mojave for storage. Anyone know where the retired aircraft will go to be scrapped/parted out?

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Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:37 pm

Quoting ka (Reply 30):

...way too big! On many days a 737 is a waste of a/c.

Ka.

too bad TG doesn't have any 787s on order. A 788 would be perfect for BKK-ZRH.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:45 pm

Quoting a380787 (Reply 32):
too bad TG doesn't have any 787s on order. A 788 would be perfect for BKK-ZRH.

They already have 4 in operation, and at least two more on the way.
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:21 pm

Thai Airways seems like another Malaysian to me... Always losing money, always buying big new airplanes, always retiring them after 10 years to buy new ones. They just thrash around, continuously making drastic changes, continuously hemorrhaging money. Nice livery though.

The only part of this that really bothers me is that 12 year old 744s and 6 year old A346 are going to be retired.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:29 pm

Quoting hilram (Reply 33):

They already have 4 in operation, and at least two more on the way.

Oh they're leased right ? I went by the wiki orders/deliveries page, which doesn't show the leasors .... whoops

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_787_orders_and_deliveries
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:35 pm

My records show the following A300's at Bangkok;

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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:32 pm

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 20):
Slightly surprised at Moscow as the Russia to Thailand travel market is MASSIVE! All those Russian airlines flying into BKK must be forcing them out on their home turf!

The Russian Market is way down due to the collapse of the Ruble against the THB and other currency's the last few months and there are not really any signs of quick recovery.

This combined with the leisure market dominated by the likes of Norwind Airlines or other charter airlines is not helping TG to make any profit on this route.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:43 pm

Re checked Planespotters.net.

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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:47 pm

Quoting jumpjets (Reply 11):
Quoting olympic472 (Thread starter):
They state that the 747-400s and 340-600 will be gone. The 380s will be the only quad-jets left.

Does that mean we will finally see the A380 on the BKK-LHR route, or will they be down gauging?

Their fleet has six 380s. LHR will likely go A380.

Quoting commavia (Reply 21):
Quoting olympic472 (Thread starter):
Los Angeles

Sad, but likely inevitable - just as was the case for Malaysia. That market is just so long - Thai is likely better off just cooperating on connections via NRT/ICN or Europe.

Thai use to do BKK-Osaka-LAX on the 747s. Never understood why they chose ICN over Osaka after they retired their non-stop A340-500.

How can BKK_LAX not work with so many business between Thailand and the USA?
Must be mismanagement on Thai Airway's part and poor marketing.
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:56 pm

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 28):
I was very suprised to see two A 330s stored: HS-TEE and HS-TEG

- These are pretty old machines, over 20 years in age, they are due retirement.
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:02 pm

FCO and MXP would be a big blow!
BKK and Thailand in general are very popular destinations from there but, as a matter of facts, mostly Y ones, hence the drop in profitability.
Sad news.
I wonder how long will it take for ME3 carriers to monopolize all east bound, long haul passengers from Italy.
Anyway, those are the market rules...
I'm also a little bit worried about TG itself, but I hope those moves will stimulate profits, looking elsewere to fly is sad but sometimes the only solutions to achieve money and sustain an airline..
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:45 pm

This is even though CX has downsized their BKK mini hub

they used to fly to Dubai, Delhi,Karachi,Mumbai,Singapore from BKK

why did this not give them relief??
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:49 pm

Quoting Kashmon (Reply 42):
This is even though CX has downsized their BKK mini hub

they used to fly to Dubai, Delhi,Karachi,Mumbai,Singapore from BKK

why did this not give them relief??

I think those barely moved the needle. The ME3 and political instability at Thailand is absolutely killing TG. They really need to configure their planes closer to a long-haul LCC in the back and selective flat bed seats in the front .... kinda like the AC 450-seat 77W.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:59 pm

I would have thought most BKK traffic was taken away by CX as well form the east
apart from ME3 from the west.

As I said last year, you know when your royal family chooses to fly CX over your local airline- something is really really wrong with your reputation locally.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:01 pm

Are the A340-500s still stored at the old Bangkok airport? Are they visible from the perimeter or airside?
What about the A333 that was in the accident last year?
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:03 pm

Quoting olympic472 (Reply 39):
Their fleet has six 380s. LHR will likely go A380.

Probably. Remember, A380 LHR service was supposed to begin in December 2013.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...a380-plan-for-london-route-388018/

Those plans were canceled due to the wing crack issue. The whole fleet has now been modified so I suppose LHR plans will be resumed.
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:14 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 45):
What about the A333 that was in the accident last year?

HS-TEF is stored engineless in BKK.


HS-TEF by als4123_2014, on Flickr
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:22 pm

CAPA has recently posted an analysis of the issues facing TG at the moment: Thai Airways needs strategic rethink and network restructuring after dismal 2014

Quote:
http://centreforaviation.com/images/stories/2015/Jan/22/TG_2014ops.PNG

Most load factors seem to have finally started to improve by December 2014, however Europe & North Pacific still struggle. I'm guessing "North Pacific" refers to LAX.
 
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RE: Big Changes Coming To Thai Airways

Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:45 pm

Good I hope LAX is finally cut. I've been urging such route rationalization long time.

The route has been nothing more than a prestige market primarily generating bottom of the barrel ethnic and tourist flow. Meanwhile the TG LA sales office has been the plum assignment for well connected kids with zero business let alone airline experience.

As MH showed such vanity projects of routes to Americas cannot and should not be supported without the proper economic basis.
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