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Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:21 pm

Here's the tally from the big 6, in order, and a minor leaguer....

YYZ - no official tally yet, but preliminary is topping 38 million. (+6 to 7%)

http://www.torontopearson.com/pearso...nWF.aspx?pageid=78&id=19327352836#

YVR - 19.36 million (+7.7%)

http://www.yvr.ca/Libraries/Aviation...aned_Passengers_Dec_2014.sflb.ashx

YYC, stats page still needs december numbers, but YYC will surely hit 15.2 million in 2014 (+6 to 7 %)

http://www.yyc.com/en-us/media/factsfigures/passengerstatistics.aspx

YUL - 14.82 million (+5.2%)

http://www.admtl.com/sites/default/files/ADM_Statsdet_Angl-14-vWeb.pdf

YEG - 8.2 million (+7%)

http://flyeia.com/news/eia-was-flyin...-2014-record-82-million-passengers

YOW - 4,616,448 (+0.8%)

http://ottawa-airport.ca/sites/ottaw...s/pax_stats_chart_-_dec_14_eng.pdf

and the minor leaguer.....

YQB - 1.57 million (+6.7%)

Canadian airports are alive an well. Will be interesting to see what happens to YYC's and YEG's numbers in 2015 with oil down to less than 50$ a barrel.

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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:56 pm

Any idea how the second tier airports did in 2014 like YYJ, YKA, YLW, YXE, YQR, YXU and YYT?
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:11 pm

In this video from last December, Craig Richmond said that they were expecting to end the year with 19,2 passengers having used YVR. The final result is even better: 19,358,203. In other words it means a growth of 1,386,320 over 2013. Quite a leap forward.

http://youtu.be/G8B9KVP-NKc
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:35 pm

Quoting Noise (Reply 1):
Any idea how the second tier airports did in 2014 like YYJ
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:41 pm

for YLW in 2014

Total Passenger - 1,602,988 - +6.53%

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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:49 pm

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 4):
for YLW in 2014

Total Passenger - 1,602,988 - +6.53%

YLWbased

Now that UA is dropping SFO-YLW, I wonder if 2015 growth will slow as a result ?
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:49 pm

What's interesting in all these stats is that aircraft movements aren't increasing at the same rate as the passenger numbers are.

At best, we are seeing 1, 2 or 3 % increases in aircraft movements, well below the 5, 6 or 7 % increases in passenger numbers.

Therefore it is clear that airlines are using bigger aircraft carrying more passengers and/or load factors are higher than ever before.

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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:21 pm

Very nice to see YYZ getting closer to the 40 Million threshold.

I suspect that the GTAA might seriously consider starting "Pier G" construction within the next couple of years at this rate.
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:24 pm

interesting last quarter for YEG.

http://flyeia.com/sites/default/files/12-14_-_public_report_p1_0.pdf

8% increase in October, less than 2 % in November, and -0.6% in December 2014. Maybe a sign of things to come in 2015.

Similar scenario for YYC. An average of 7-8 % growth during the first half of the year. Third quarter, the increase was limited to 6 %, and during the last quarter, the average will likely be 4 or 5 %. A definite slowdown.

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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:37 pm

Do Quebecers simply not fly as much? Less than 15mil for a province of 8 million people and a metro area of close to 4mil sounds low.
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:53 pm

^ Quebecers do not fly as much domestically. If you look at YUL's stats, it is mostly international and US.

On the flip side, YEG and YYC are the exceptions where people must fly almost anywhere they want to go.
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:04 pm

And if someone would add YVR-SAN, the numbers for Vancouver would certainly go up!   (And so would SAN's!)

  

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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:24 pm

Quoting Escapehere (Reply 9):

Do Quebecers simply not fly as much?

As yegbey01 said, you could say that, as far as domestic flying is concerned. Culturally, they are different than the rest of Canada, so they dont feel the need to travel within the country as much. Also, as the most taxed province/state in North America, and with some of the lowest average wages in the country, it is pretty clear that Quebecers dont have as much disposable income as the rest of the continent, meaning less opportunities to fly.

However, Quebecers love to fly abroad. example.

YUL international (non U.S) passengers, 5.54 million
YVR international (non U.S) passengers, 4.55 million

Problem is, Quebecers also love to drive, in order to save money !

Location is everything.

NY, Boston, Philadelphia, Toronto, etc are all within a few hours drive from YUL. You even see thousands of QC plates in FLL/MIA/PBI all year round, especially in winter. There is also decent train service to Ottawa, Toronto, the maritimes, YQB, and also NY. Basically, Quebecers have options to not use YUL.

That's not the case for Calgary or Edmonton, which are in isolated locations, meaning if you want to leave the city, your only option is to fly out. That and the fact that migrant workers want to go back home during the holidays/days off, etc, and that is why a city like YEG handles 8x as much passengers compared to it's population.

Put Montreal in the middle of Alberta, and YUL would be pumping out 20-25 million passengers by now.

Plus, let's not kid ourselves, a few million of YYZ's passengers are Quebecers driving or connecting in YYZ  Without Quebec right next door, YYZ's count would probably still be in the low 30 mils.

I myself connected in YYZ from YUL 3 times in 2014.

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Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:42 pm

YYT saw almost 1.6 million people in 2014, with a 10% increase in passenger volume just for the summer season alone. It is expected that the airport will reach 2 million pax by 2020.
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:58 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 12):
That's not the case for Calgary or Edmonton, which are in isolated locations, meaning if you want to leave the city, your only option is to fly out. That and the fact that migrant workers want to go back home during the holidays/days off, etc, and that is why a city like YEG handles 8x as much passengers compared to it's population.

YYC & YEG will have the least amount of spilage over the border of any Canadian airports given their proximity of distance to the nearest large U.S. airports being SEA, PDX and SLC.
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:15 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 15):
YYC & YEG will have the least amount of spilage over the border of any Canadian airports given their proximity of distance to the nearest large U.S. airports being SEA, PDX and SLC.

I'd throw YYT YHZ YYG and even YQM into that list as well.
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:25 pm

I'm curious to see how YHZ fared in 2014 since in 2013 it served 3,585,864 people, which was a little less than the year before. Also I wonder how much growth will there be in 2015 with Encore new routes, WS's GLA service, Europe Airpost to CDG and Rouge to YYC.
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:41 pm

YYJ - 1,650,165 (+6.0%)

http://www.victoriaairport.com/pdfs/Traffic_Summary_1.pdf

YMM - 1,308,416 (+9.5%, compared to a 25% increase the previous year, so a definite slowing)

http://www.flyymm.com/media/facts-and-stats

YQM - 677,159 (+4.6%)

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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:07 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 12):
However, Quebecers love to fly abroad.

Paris and other french cities must be at the top of the list, with AC, AF and TS offering many flights.
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:38 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 17):
I'm curious to see how YHZ fared in 2014 since in 2013 it served 3,585,864 people, which was a little less than the year before.

YHZ doesn't seem to have reported their full-year 2014 traffic, but as of last October they were forecasting approxmately a 2% increase in 2014 which would make it just about equal to YWG.

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 4):
for YLW in 2014

Total Passenger - 1,602,988 - +6.53%
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:49 pm

Quoting a380787 (Reply 5):
Now that UA is dropping SFO-YLW, I wonder if 2015 growth will slow as a result ?

Sorry - but where did you hear that?
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:28 am

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 21):
Quoting a380787 (Reply 5):
Now that UA is dropping SFO-YLW, I wonder if 2015 growth will slow as a result ?

Sorry - but where did you hear that?

SFO-YLW was planned as a seasonal (winter only) service. The last flight is April 6 in UA schedules. Can't find any news about their plans for next winter but the flight isn't in their schedules for a few random dates I checked.
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:55 am

I'd assume these number's don't include FBO pax traffic of any kind, which is where most of the operators to and from the Oil Patch and other remote industry destinations operate out of. This would affect the overall numbers to most larger Canadian airports and also skew some quite negatively (namely CYEG and CYYC).
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:02 am

Quoting My16sidedoffice (Reply 23):
I'd assume these number's don't include FBO pax traffic of any kind, which is where most of the operators to and from the Oil Patch and other remote industry destinations operate out of. This would affect the overall numbers to most larger Canadian airports and also skew some quite negatively (namely CYEG and CYYC).

Both YYC's and YEG's numbers include FBO's.
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:01 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 22):
SFO-YLW was planned as a seasonal (winter only) service. The last flight is April 6 in UA schedules. Can't find any news about their plans for next winter but the flight isn't in their schedules for a few random dates I checked.

Interesting. I know that the YLW-LAX was planned to be seasonal once the switch to SFO was made but that's the first I've heard of SFO being seasonal. Thanks.
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Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:48 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 22):
SFO-YLW was planned as a seasonal (winter only) service. The last flight is April 6 in UA schedules. Can't find any news about their plans for next winter but the flight isn't in their schedules for a few random dates I checked.

The flight was bookable year-round until this past weekend.
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:05 am

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 26):
The flight was bookable year-round until this past weekend.

That's what I thought as well, I did a bit of snooping and this is the first and only press release I've found on it ...

"United will offer YLW to SFO service as a seasonal flight through April 6, 2015. The service will resume in the late fall"

http://www.kelowna.ca/iNews/scripts/nws002.cfm?News_ID=3924

YLW sure is quick in the press releases when it comes to new services but pretty quiet about reductions LOL!

I also noticed that they included charters in the numbers for YLW, such as Canadian North and North Cariboo Air going to and from Albian. Anyone know if these only apply to the charters using the main terminal building or do they also include the Suncor charters which use the Shell FBO on the north end if I'm not mistaken?
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:29 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 17):
I'm curious to see how YHZ fared in 2014 since in 2013 it served 3,585,864 people, which was a little less than the year before. Also I wonder how much growth will there be in 2015 with Encore new routes, WS's GLA service, Europe Airpost to CDG and Rouge to YYC.

I doubt there will a huge increase, in 2014 or 2015.

In the last 10 years, YHZ traffic grew from 3 million to 3.6 million. That's what, a 20% increase in total, meaning an average of 2 % per year. Nothing to write home about. During the same time frame, airports like YUL, YYC and YEG saw 90-100% increases.

http://hiaa.ca/airport-authority/med...acts-and-stats/airport-statistics/
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Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:41 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 12):
Basically, Quebecers have options to not use YUL.

A good number of people also use PBG and BTV. G4 even advertises flights from those two on the radio in Montreal.
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:58 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 28):
During the same time frame, airports like YUL, YYC and YEG saw 90-100% increases.

I don't think the comparison is good since YHZ doesn't play in the same league as those you mentioned.
 
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Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:57 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 12):
Problem is, Quebecers also love to drive, in order to save money !

Location is everything.

Not only in order to save money. Two of the main destinations from Montreal, namely Ottawa and Quebec city, are both so close as to render taking the plane quite unnecessary. There is a bus shuttle between Montreal and Quebec, with a departure every hour during the whole day, and the journey takes the short side of three hours. Going to YUL from downtown Montreal would take, say, 30 minutes, let's say screening and boarding could hardly take less than another 45 minutes, the flight to YQB itself is something like 45 minutes, disembarking and reaching Quebec city downtown could well be another half hour… so, basically, the same total time. And Ottawa is even closer: barely over two hours on the road.
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:51 pm

Quoting Aircellist (Reply 31):

Also keep in mind that that PBG "Plattsburgh International Airport, Montreal's U.S. Airport." and BTV "BIENVENUE CANADIENS" do lure a sizeable number of Montrealers and Quebecers either out of price or distance convenience.










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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:11 am

Quoting CF105Arrow (Reply 32):

With the Canadian dollar in freefall, that is no longer the case. US airports along the Canadian border will suffer big time.

Of course, people who are flying from these airports today have purchased their tickets long in advance, but 6 months from now, i wouldn't be surprised to see NK and G4 cut back on PBG flights.

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 27):
YLW sure is quick in the press releases when it comes to new services but pretty quiet about reductions LOL!

Which airport isn't....!

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Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:22 am

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 33):
Quoting CF105Arrow (Reply 32):


With the Canadian dollar in freefall, that is no longer the case. US airports along the Canadian border will suffer big time.

Related YYZ news report a couple of days ago.
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Quoting SANFan (Reply 11):
And if someone would add YVR-SAN, the numbers for Vancouver would certainly go up!

As long as that somebody isn't AC Rouge. Numbers would go up...until passengers realized what a crap experience it is and opt to go onestop instead.

Quoting a380787 (Reply 5):

Now that UA is dropping SFO-YLW, I wonder if 2015 growth will slow as a result

Hmm, I move away from the area and miss all sorts of news - I had no idea they even flew to SFO. Last I heard LAX was offered. And now it seems neither will be?

Kelowna will likely suffer from the slowing of growth in Alberta oil sands areas; prepare for a significant drop in numbers next year.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 15):
YYC & YEG will have the least amount of spilage over the border of any Canadian airports given their proximity of distance to the nearest large U.S. airports being SEA, PDX and SLC.

Does Great Falls (GTF) see any southern Albertan spillover?
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

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Quoting threepoint (Reply 35):
Does Great Falls (GTF) see any southern Albertan spillover?

If any Montana city would see Canadian leakage is Kalispell/Whitefish (FCA)
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Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:06 pm

Quoting CF105Arrow (Reply 32):
Quoting threepoint (Reply 35):
Quoting SANFan (Reply 11):
And if someone would add YVR-SAN, the numbers for Vancouver would certainly go up!

As long as that somebody isn't AC Rouge. Numbers would go up...until passengers realized what a crap experience it is and opt to go onestop instead.

Maybe your opinion but the success of the brand and bum in seats are disagreeing with you.

People who can trade a lot of time for saving of money will continue to vote that way and take the extra trouble to save a chunk of money. Even those people though will reach a point where the drive, wait at customs and cost of car gas will erode the benefits. I am not retired and my time is at a premium so unless for some reason the trip across the border was part of my trip (tickets to a game or show in the US departure city) I am not going to spend 3 or more hours (6 total) to save a small amount on a ticket.
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:46 pm

Quoting threepoint (Reply 35):
Does Great Falls (GTF) see any southern Albertan spillover?
Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 36):
If any Montana city would see Canadian leakage is Kalispell/Whitefish (FCA)

I don't think the numbers would be all that great. Calgary is too far for most people to bother driving to the US. Lethbridge is also closer to Calgary than to Kalispell or Great Falls. Outside of Calgary and Lethbridge, there just aren't that many people in Southern Alberta. Also, I did a quick search on skyscanner for some flights to HNL. I searched from GTF, FCA, and YYC. In all three, the cheapest flights had one connection through the US, and mostly through DEN and SFO. On top of that, the flights from YYC were $100 - 150 cheaper than through GTF and FCA. Quite the opposite of savings. Of course, this is just one search, so not exactly a detailed study. Another search to New York (any airport) revealed that from GTF prices were equal to YYC, and from FCA prices were still about $50 more than from YYC.

In addition, I've never know anyone to drive to either city, from Alberta, for anything other than cross-border shopping. I think It's fairly safe to say that YYC's numbers are not being threatened by any US airports. IMHO, the best reason to go to Great Falls is the Sip 'n Dip.

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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:58 pm

Quoting pnwtraveler (Reply 37):
I am not retired and my time is at a premium so unless for some reason the trip across the border was part of my trip (tickets to a game or show in the US departure city) I am not going to spend 3 or more hours (6 total) to save a small amount on a ticket.
Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 36):
If any Montana city would see Canadian leakage is Kalispell/Whitefish (FCA)

This surprises me. The drive from the Hwy 4/i-15 border crossing at Coutts is 100km further to Kalispell than to Great Falls, and takes almost twice the time at posted speed limits. The time difference becomes greater in poor weather and during peak tourist season. FCA seems to offer a lot of seasonal service (presumably in the summer, when Canadians tend to stay home and enjoy the nicer weather). Granted, FCA boasts higher domestic passenger numbers to its top destinations than does GTF, but I have little idea what percentages of these travelers are Canadian.
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:46 pm

Quoting threepoint (Reply 39):
The drive from the Hwy 4/i-15 border crossing at Coutts is 100km further to Kalispell than to Great Falls, and takes almost twice the time at posted speed limits.

Well, back when Montana had no limits…  
 
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Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:58 pm

Quoting aerolimani (Reply 40):
Well, back when Montana had no limits…

That would only reinforce my point, yep. Makes sense that few Albertans leach to Montana, but if they did, I assume GTF would be a much easier departure point to access. Moot point, understood.
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Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:14 pm

Quoting threepoint (Reply 35):
As long as that somebody isn't AC Rouge. Numbers would go up...until passengers realized what a crap experience it is and opt to go onestop instead.

I don't understand all this pooping on Rouge. We went to Scotland last summer, and flew AC YUL-YYZ then Rouge to EDI and back.

There was nothing really all that awful about the Rouge flights. Nothing spectacular, but nothing awful. No more cramped than Air Transat. The plane (763) was clean. The entertainment selections were sort of limited (I brought my iPad mini and that worked OK, the image quality on my retina display was actually way better than the seat back entertainment systems on AC mainline) and the food was very ordinary, but nothing worse than most airline economy class food.

Both flights, to and fro, were on time, and baggage delivered promptly. Yeah sure it was a bit ho-hum but I can't say it was a "crap experience" compared to the FRA-YUL flight last November on an AC A333. The FRA flight was a bit more comfortable, the food maybe marginally better, and the entertainment selections better (but with worse image quality). Bottom line: they got me there safely, on-time, and with my luggage intact. I was fed and watered along the way. It was the cheapest ticket to get to EDI. Seems that they fulfilled their mission for me.

I'd fly Rouge again if they happen to be going my way.

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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:26 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 33):

Difficult to figure out what the devaluation of the dollar means for cross border flying and transborder travel. The devaluation isn't taking place in a vacuum - it is linked to lower oil prices. That gives the ULCCs some room to adjust fares and keep the crowds coming.

It will be far more interestng to see how the devaluation impacts transborder leisure travel. Airfare is only part of the expenditure of vacationing in the US. I suspect that the exchange rate and its impact on the overall cost of visiting the US will be a bigger challenge for the ULCCs (and, to some degree, direct operators) than the inability to price competitively enough to attract CAN traffic.

What is the breakdown of cross border travel? Is it mostly Canada to US, or US to Canada, or equal in both directions?
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:40 am

Quoting threepoint (Reply 35):
Does Great Falls (GTF) see any southern Albertan spillover?

There is significant spillover on G4 flights to LAS and AZA. The flights are quite often two thirds Canadian. It takes about the same amount of time to get to YYC or GTF from Lethbridge. Plus it is a lot easier to clear customs at a land crossing than at an airport.

The Lethbridge trading area is over 250,000 and extends from the Saskatchewan border to Cranbrook in British Columbia. There are a lot of snowbirds with places in Arizona.

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 36):
If any Montana city would see Canadian leakage is Kalispell/Whitefish (FCA)

The problem with FCA in the winter is you have to cross Marias Pass, you don't have to cross the mountains to get to GTF.

Quoting threepoint (Reply 39):
The drive from the Hwy 4/i-15 border crossing at Coutts is 100km further to Kalispell than to Great Falls

Nobody going to Kalispell goes through Coutts, It is about the same distance as Great Falls if you cross at Del Bonita or Carway south of Cardston.
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:13 am

Quoting CYQL (Reply 44):
Plus it is a lot easier to clear customs at a land crossing than at an airport.

That's true. The lineups at YYC are often long, and the screening seems pretty intense compared to land crossings.

Quoting CYQL (Reply 44):
The Lethbridge trading area is over 250,000 and extends from the Saskatchewan border to Cranbrook in British Columbia. There are a lot of snowbirds with places in Arizona.

That's also true, but the loss of those passengers to GTF is a drop in the bucket in light of YYC's 15.2 million is 2014. However, the loss of passenger to GTF probably has a much more significant effect on YQL. I'm guessing that with the username CYQL, you might know a thing or two about that.
 
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:34 am

Interesting analysis from a month ago (mostly 11 month figures)....

Important to note that part of YEG's tremendous overall increase in 2014 is due to them counting GA traffic as well in their totals for the first time.

http://www.anna.aero/2015/01/09/cana...rts-reporting-growth-of-6-in-2014/

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 17):
I'm curious to see how YHZ fared in 2014

In the second graph, we can clearly see that through 11 months, international and US traffic out of YHZ has seen a decline. YWG, on the other hand, has seen healthy increases in both sectors during the first 9 months of the year.

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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:50 am

Quoting threepoint (Reply 35):
Kelowna will likely suffer from the slowing of growth in Alberta oil sands areas; prepare for a significant drop in numbers next year.

Kelowna has transformed into a College Town with the arrival on UBC-O in 2007, the number of education related traffic is on the raise ever since.

(I graduated from UBC-O in 2008)

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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:17 pm

YYC handed in its official tally for 2014.

15.26 million, (+6.6%)

http://www.yyc.com/Portals/0/MEDIA/M...dia-PassengerStats/br_paxtotal.pdf

[Edited 2015-02-15 07:24:09]
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RE: Canadian Airport Passenger Numbers In 2014

Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:24 am

Quoting threepoint (Reply 35):
Kelowna will likely suffer from the slowing of growth in Alberta oil sands areas; prepare for a significant drop in numbers next year.

The Canadian North and North Cairboo Air charters are ending this week for one of the sites. YLW saw several of these flights in a week. Most of the workers will be using WS/AC to get to YYC or YEG to catch their charter up north now. So I agree, there will be (already has been) a decline in numbers. When I started using the charters in the Summer, our flight had about 40 people originating in YLW we're now down to about 10. Some of the other flights still have more people though.
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