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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:25 am

The new blue slimline seats are pretty comfortable actually. I was pleasantly surprised when I tried them out for the first time on a 739ER a couple of months ago. Much better, IMO, than the ones installed on the A32S fleet.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:49 pm

All OO E175's now have WiFi installed. They are getting ready to start installing it on the CRJ-700 aircraft.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:55 pm

Good for United! They need more ticks on the "good" list!

So, the nice cool grey on the A320 is NOT a "slimline"? While comfortable, they are pretty darn thin vs the old sUA economy seat. Are these blue ones (I love the small tag) even more slim? As a headrest fanatic, lars the headrests adjustable and when the wings are pulled up, do they support your 8 lbs bowling ball head?

Does this spell the demise of the sCO checkered upholstery?


AND: what does the NEW domestic first class seat look like?
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:35 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 102):

Personally, the grey leather seat on the sUA 320s was more comfortable than the new UA logo slimline blue leather economy seats, but still no where near as comfortable as the ones removed for weight reduction. My biggest problem with the new seats is there is no stowage room on the seat back area which is a pain, although it is the reason for the extra leg room in a tighter configuration. Overall comfort is fair. If your asking about the new FC domestic seat UA was testing last year at UA WHQs unless an UA insider can share some information, I do not believe UA has released anything as of yet. However, the new leather FC seats on the new UA 739ERs are very comfortable and a major improvement over the sCO FC seat in the 738 fleet with DTV.   
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:27 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 102):
So, the nice cool grey on the A320 is NOT a "slimline"?

It is a slimline design, but a different part number that will be phased out eventually.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 102):
While comfortable, they are pretty darn thin vs the old sUA economy seat. Are these blue ones (I love the small tag) even more slim?

The Blue are skinnier then the old sUAL economy seats. The seat frame is inch smaller in the seat track, saving a inch per row. The Grey and the Blue are both slimline designs.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 102):
As a headrest fanatic, lars the headrests adjustable and when the wings are pulled up, do they support your 8 lbs bowling ball head?

Yes.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 102):
Does this spell the demise of the sCO checkered upholstery?

Yes.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 102):
AND: what does the NEW domestic first class seat look like?

Don't think they've announced it yet. Did run some seats by customers.....
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:40 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 95):
The aircraft had brand new 2 tone grey seats.

Also, a related point – some Airbuses have gray seats because the seat frame was ready before the signature look was ready. The few dozen Airbuses with gray seat covers will be getting blue/black leather with the tag seat covers over the coming months. So even though the CRJs/E-Jets have one seat frame, the Airbii have another, and the 737s a third, thy'll have a consistent blue/black leather with tag look to them eventually.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:18 am

738:
N11206 entered INT 2134/24Mar for WiFi
N38286 exited INT 2135/14Mar with scimitars, already had WiFi

752:
N17105 entered MIA 2132/24Mar for WiFi
N34131 sked to exit MIA 2144/26Mar with Intl WiFi

763:
N675UA sked to exit MCN 2181/26Mar, maint only

772:
N204UA sked to exit HKG 2068/28Mar, maint
N219UA sked to enter XMN 2176/27Mar, maint only
N220UA entered HKG 2197/24Mar, maint
N794UA sked to exit SMN 2182/27Mar, maint only



789:
N35953 exited DEN induction on first revenue flight 1698/22Mar


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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:52 pm

Quoting adamblang (Reply 105):
Also, a related point – some Airbuses have gray seats because the seat frame was ready before the signature look was ready. The few dozen Airbuses with gray seat covers will be getting blue/black leather with the tag seat covers over the coming months. So even though the CRJs/E-Jets have one seat frame, the Airbii have another, and the 737s a third, thy'll have a consistent blue/black leather with tag look to them eventually.

Thought the Airbus Grey were 3410 and new SlimLine Blue seats were 3520H, different part numbers. Plus the Blue Slimlines came out 3 years after the Grey Recaros. Doing a quick check of the part numbers shows the Grey and Blue leather slim line seats are different too. If the seats can get away with new covers only, it would save some money.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:41 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 107):
Thought the Airbus Grey were 3410 and new SlimLine Blue seats were 3520H, different part numbers. Plus the Blue Slimlines came out 3 years after the Grey Recaros. Doing a quick check of the part numbers shows the Grey and Blue leather slim line seats are different too. If the seats can get away with new covers only, it would save some money.

Seat frame on the Airbii isn't changing – that's consistent across the fleet. Some of those frames have blue seats covers today and some have gray seat covers. Eventually they'll all be blue seat covers. The CR7s, E75s, Airbii, and 737s will have a consistent looking cover (even though they're wrapped on different seat frames).
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:25 pm

Quoting adamblang (Reply 108):
Seat frame on the Airbii isn't changing – that's consistent across the fleet. Some of those frames have blue seats covers today and some have gray seat covers. Eventually they'll all be blue seat covers.

True they will all go blue, but looking at the part numbers, they are completely different, if reading them right, between the blue and the grey Recaros. Not getting a lot of Airbus flights in the latest schedule, but when they come back, will physically check the blues and the greys.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:40 pm

The Airbus slimline is a Recaro seat while the slims on the 737 fleet are B/E Aerospace. I recently flew on a 737-900ER with blue leather seats, but no mesh net at knee level, just a standard magazine pocket. Is there some variation to the seats going into the 737 fleet?
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:55 pm

Quoting codc10 (Reply 110):
Is there some variation to the seats going into the 737 fleet?

AFAIK there will be the ones going into the sCO 738/739/739ER fleet that house the DTV units, and then there will be the ones going into the 739ER fleet that don't have DTV (sCO tails 465 - 478; sUA tails 801 - 849, 880 - 899)
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:58 pm

Any ideas when the streaming Wi-Fi will be turned on the 739 fleet? I know the fleet website says may be turned on for a couple aircraft. The two I flew a month ago were not enabled.

Quoting SunsetLimited (Reply 100):
The new blue slimline seats are pretty comfortable actually. I was pleasantly surprised when I tried them out for the first time on a 739ER a couple of months ago. Much better, IMO, than the ones installed on the A32S fleet.

I too vote for the B/E Aerospace seats over the Recaros. 1/2" more head room means 1/2" closer to the floor in a very uncomfortable knee angle/more upright sitting position for me on the Recaros. Only thing I noticed is the aisle seat cushion on one of the B739s was starting to donut a little - not sure they're going to have enough structure to sustain lots of sitting.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:47 am

Quoting stxbohn (Reply 112):

Wifi or streaming IFE content? Most of the 739s have Wifi, but they're still working on getting the streaming content.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:07 am

Not sure what the delay is.

With Stream
753s most have WiFi, 9 with DTV, 11 of 12 others have WiFi and Stream
Airbuses all have Wifi and Stream
772 Hawaiians all have Wifi and stream
744s all have WiFi and stream

Without stream
739s sCO (3465-3478) all have WiFi, need Stream
739s sUA (3801-3846) all have WiFi, need stream


No stream needed
73G will get WiFi and have DTV, no stream needed
738s all have DTV (execept for mid lavs undergoing removal), no stream needed
739s sCO most have DTV and don't need stream
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:13 am

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 114):
738s all have DTV (execept for mid lavs undergoing removal), no stream needed

All 738s (excluding GUM based birds) will be receiving DTV.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:08 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 114):
Not sure what the delay is.

My feeling is prioritization. I think they prioritized the Airbus aircraft because they took the entertainment away from those planes. Next went the international 747's and then Hawaii birds.
I bet the 9ER's are up next.

I highly doubt any plane that DTV will get the stream service as it would be a competitor to DTV. Unless they allow you to pay one fee for both services, which could be a good option, but even if they go that direction it should be the last fleet to get the stream services since they have 'dark' planes that need some entertainment.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:18 pm

Quoting ordbosewr (Reply 116):
I highly doubt any plane that DTV will get the stream service as it would be a competitor to DTV. Unless they allow you to pay one fee for both services, which could be a good option, but even if they go that direction it should be the last fleet to get the stream services since they have 'dark' planes that need some entertainment.

Contractually UA actually can't put the Panasonic WiFi or streaming service on any DTV equipped aircraft. The WiFi system that is being installed on the DTV aircraft uses DTVs equipment.

UA also doesn't charge for using the streaming video system....
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:12 pm

Quoting United1 (Reply 117):
Contractually UA actually can't put the Panasonic WiFi or streaming service on any DTV equipped aircraft. The WiFi system that is being installed on the DTV aircraft uses DTVs equipment.

UA also doesn't charge for using the streaming video system....

Question is how long? To both comments. I assume, when their current contract is up, DTV will be going, unless the cost of removal is to high. Am I correct that United doesn't actually make any revenue from DTV, but also didn't have to pay to install them? I thought that originally, it was a selling point for luring customers and saving money on programming, not a revenue builder for the airline. Otherwise, I would think they would expand it to Airbus and newer 737's.

As far as streaming, I predict at the very latest, once DTV is gone (next year or next decade), the streaming will no longer be free. It is still called "Beta"

Maybe, instead of teaming up with DTV, they could team up with Netflix or Hulu to provide content for free!

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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:55 pm

Quoting Cosyr (Reply 118):
Maybe, instead of teaming up with DTV, they could team up with Netflix or Hulu to provide content for free!

Anything possible but keep in mind that the streaming video content is stored on board the aircraft not streamed from the ground.

Quoting Cosyr (Reply 118):
Question is how long? To both comments. I assume, when their current contract is up, DTV will be going, unless the cost of removal is to high. Am I correct that United doesn't actually make any revenue from DTV, but also didn't have to pay to install them? I thought that originally, it was a selling point for luring customers and saving money on programming, not a revenue builder for the airline. Otherwise, I would think they would expand it to Airbus and newer 737's.

UA doesn't pay for the installation or upkeep of the DTV system and only receives a very small percentage of what DTV charges people to use the system.....no one has ever been able to give me a definite answer on when DTVs contract expires.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:20 pm

Quoting United1 (Reply 119):
Anything possible but keep in mind that the streaming video content is stored on board the aircraft not streamed from the ground.

But as Netflix pointed out when switching to online content, from DVD's, they are not a DVD business, but a content delivery business. They license the content, and could provide it to United, to be stored on aircraft...I would hope, because everyone on the plane streaming Netflix from the ground, probably would not work out well.

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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:36 pm

Quoting Cosyr (Reply 120):
Let's test it. Who's up for an A.net only UA flight next week? Bring your laptops!  

Don't even need a laptop...just a tablet/smart phone and the UA app installed.  

I haven't tested it out but fairly certain that UA blocked streaming video (meaning terrestrial to aircraft) on the WiFi system.

Quoting Cosyr (Reply 120):
But as Netflix pointed out when switching to online content, from DVD's, they are not a DVD business, but a content delivery business. They license the content, and could provide it to United, to be stored on aircraft...I would hope,

The could contract it out to netflix but its obvious that the server onboard would not be able to offer even a fraction of what netflix has on demand. The streaming system actually works rather well and has an even larger selection to choose from than the AVOD system.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:06 pm

Quoting United1 (Reply 121):
The could contract it out to netflix but its obvious that the server onboard would not be able to offer even a fraction of what netflix has on demand. The streaming system actually works rather well and has an even larger selection to choose from than the AVOD system.

No, obviously not that much. I was thinking something along the lines of what they have now, but managed by Netflix (or Hulu/Amazon,etc.) Have some of their most popular content, movies, shows, Netflix original shows. Netflix, already being in that business, is probably well versed in negotiating for content, and can eliminate extraneous work for UA that doesn't relate entirely to the airline running business.

If Netflix gets to plug the service, and UA doesn't have to do it all them selves, it could not only be a differentiating factor for UA (marketing wise), but more importantly might keep the service free for fliers, once UA starts wanting paying for wifi streaming, that is.

On a side note, I have only been able to try out the streaming on two flights. One was fine with a couple TV shows, but the second, I tried to watch a movie, and if I put it in full screen it would freeze every 30 seconds or so. I had to keep it just in the browser and even then I had to watch my time and refresh the page a few times and find my place again.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:38 am

738:
N17244 sked to enter INT 2154/26Mar for WiFi
N77261 to exit INT 2152/27Mar with WiFi/scimitars/slimlines (former mid lav)
N37274 entered INT 2151/26Mar (increases mid lav mod line to 2)
N77510 sked to exit INT 2155/26Mar with WiFi & scimitars, possible slimlines

739:
N66848 sked to enter SEA new delivery induction 2187/30Mar

752:
N549UA looks to be a fleet exit after 495/29Mar

763:
N669UA entered MCN 2150/26Mar, just maint, no mod

764:
N66056 sked to exit CWF 2130/28Mar with Intl WiFi

772:
N769UA exited CWF 2162/27Mar with Intl WiFi
N786UA entered CWF 2161/27Mar for WiFi
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:15 pm

738:
N33284 sked to exit INT 2152/29Mar with Wifi/Slimline seats, and Scimitars

763:
N642UA sked to exit MIA 2191/29Mar with Intl WiFi
N659UA sked to enter MIA 2151/29Mar for WiFi

772:
N212UA exited MIA 2140/28Mar, maint.
N213UA entered MIA 2139/28Mar, maint.
N778UA exited CWF 2137/28Mar with Intl WiFi
N799UA entered CWF 2136/28Mar for WiFi

789:
N13954 sked to enter DEN Induction from CHS 2159/31Mar
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:15 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 124):
789:
N13954 sked to enter DEN Induction from CHS 2159/31Mar

Still qualifies as a March delivery! Any idea why this unit spent a week or so at KARA per the flightaware?


Any news on the 77W order? With the 4 744 retirements planned for 2015/2016, I thought we'd hear something by now.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:27 am

738:
N24212 sked to enter INT 2170/30Mar for WiFi
N12238 sked to exit INT 2185/30Mar with WiFi

739:
N69847 exited SEA Induction, ferry to INT 2179/30Mar for WiFi

752:
N18119 sked to exit MIA 2124/30Mar with Intl WiFi
N34137 entered MIA 2123/30Mar for WiFi

764:
N67052 sked to exit LCQ 2131/31Mar with Intl WiFi
N59053 sked to enter CWF 2121/30Mar for WiFi
N77066 sked to enter LCQ 2130/31Mar for WiFi
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:15 am

Quoting Cosyr (Reply 118):
Question is how long? To both comments. I assume, when their current contract is up, DTV will be going, unless the cost of removal is to high. Am I correct that United doesn't actually make any revenue from DTV, but also didn't have to pay to install them? I thought that originally, it was a selling point for luring customers and saving money on programming, not a revenue builder for the airline. Otherwise, I would think they would expand it to Airbus and newer 737's.

Before JetBlue sold DTV/LTV, the contract was $1.00 of each pay to watch went to Continental. Since the merger and the sale of DTV/LTV, haven't seen anything that shows that has changed. Think you will see WiFi becoming the new way, killing off AVOD and DTV/LTV. A really large weight savings removing that equipment.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:19 am

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 127):
Think you will see WiFi becoming the new way, killing off AVOD and DTV/LTV.

Agreed. WestJet's announcement re Premium Economy said essentially the same thing.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:03 am

New delivery 739 Ship 0848 has "March of Dimes" livery ... Can't figure out how to post pic from IPad though.   
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:04 pm

Looks like one of the remaining CR7s in blue, N756SK has flown to ROW, guessing for paint. N760SK is also offline in TUS, but that's probably just Mx.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:14 pm

Quoting Boeing12345 (Reply 11):
The two used 700's will be registered as 751 and 752.

Read somewhere about # 751 737-71Q(HP-1369 - N15751) and # 752 737-71Q1(HP-1370 - N17752), plus reading something about # 753 737-7V3(HP-1379 - N17753) and # 754 737-7V3(HP-1380 - N12754). Maybe they are taking two more for a total of 4.

Quoting iahcsr (Reply 129):
New delivery 739 Ship 0848 has "March of Dimes" livery ... Can't figure out how to post pic from IPad though.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:40 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 131):

I particularly like the way they integrated the purple into their Gold line and Gray bottom. Very Nice.

[Edited 2015-04-02 13:40:44]
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:43 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 131):
Read somewhere about # 751 737-71Q(HP-1369 - N15751) and # 752 737-71Q1(HP-1370 - N17752), plus reading something about # 753 737-7V3(HP-1379 - N17753) and # 754 737-7V3(HP-1380 - N12754). Maybe they are taking two more for a total of 4.

Four confirms what I'd heard in January.

Are #751 and #752 in service?
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:01 am

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 127):
Think you will see WiFi becoming the new way, killing off AVOD and DTV/LTV.

I kind of wonder, with potentially few people using DTV, if the weight burden of DTV actually causes it to cost more to UA than they actually receive from it. While the new AVOD systems are probably of negligible weight gain thanks to everything being lightweight enough to put in the screen itself, so no more boxes under the seat, the DTV system is still a big box in addition to this somewhat bulky looking thing on the back of the seat.

However, the weight savings will need to take in to account that WiFi will not be viable on aircraft doing 3.5+ hours without also having power plugs installed, so the weight of the power outlets and their circuitry needs to be taken in to account too.

Interesting to note that the branding on the power outlets is still "EMPower", so it sounds like they're a company or a brand of some company rather than just the (deprecated) socket type. Any info on just who or whose they are?
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:05 am

Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 133):
Are #751 and #752 in service?

No, no flights on these tails.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:51 pm

Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 133):
Four confirms what I'd heard in January.

Are #751 and #752 in service?

Not flying yet. 4 are being added according to the latest fleet count. Read somewhere they should come into the fleet by or on May 15.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:01 pm

An article in ATW indicated that UTAir has parked 6 737-800s and 12 A321s.

The -800s would be nice additions for obvious reasons. Would the A321s be of any value to UA or is the difference between the 320/319s too great to even bother with integrating a new variation into the fleet?
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:47 pm

Quoting jetblastdubai (Reply 137):

I don't think they are looking for every used aircraft they can find. The 73G's are the supplement an already small subfleet. Given that 32 was almost too small to justify, I highly doubt they would be interested in 12 of anything, stand alone.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:57 pm

Quoting cosyr (Reply 138):

Quoting jetblastdubai (Reply 137):

I don't think they are looking for every used aircraft they can find. The 73G's are the supplement an already small subfleet. Given that 32 was almost too small to justify, I highly doubt they would be interested in 12 of anything, stand alone.

Yeah I don't think UA would want used A321s either...they have quite a few aircraft already that are that size and the 321s don't really add any extra capability to the fleet. UA mentioned that they were looking at 320/319 738/73Gs...

They may be up to 40 73Gs on property...the 36 original, 2 from COPA and 2 additional that CALTECH is seeing tail numbers for.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:12 pm

Quoting United1 (Reply 139):
They may be up to 40 73Gs on property...the 36 original, 2 from COPA and 2 additional that CALTECH is seeing tail numbers for.

All 4 new arrivals are from COPA. Post # 131 has their old and new registration numbers.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:24 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 140):
All 4 new arrivals are from COPA. Post # 131 has their old and new registration numbers.

Cool...so that's confirmed then that the 73G fleet is going up to 40 frames.
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:51 am

73G
I believe the 73Gs of Copa are very close to the sCO bird, making integration easy.
One could guess it might be a bit harder to get UTAir 738s ready for service vs, the CM 73Gs.

738:
N11206 sked to exit INT 2180/3Apr with WiFi

739:
N39463 entered INT 2162/3Apr for WiFi
N66848 exited SEA Induction, ferried to INT 2150/3Apr for WiFi

763:
N668UA sked to enter MIA 2163/4Apr for WiFi
N676UA sked to exit MIA 2164/4Apr with Intl WiFi

789:
N13954 sked to exit DEN Induction 1288/5Apr
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:50 am

Quoting United1 (Reply 139):
They may be up to 40 73Gs on property...the 36 original, 2 from COPA and 2 additional that CALTECH is seeing tail numbers for.
Quoting CALTECH (Reply 140):
All 4 new arrivals are from COPA. Post # 131 has their old and new registration numbers.

IIRC COPA has about another 8 73Gs that are nearing the end of their leases. IOW, there is a chance that more CM birds could make their way to UA.
My statements do not represent my former employer or my current employer and are my opinions only.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:26 pm

763:
N651UA sked to enter MIA 2172/5Apr for WiFi
N652UA sked toexit MIA 2173/5Apr with Intl WiFi

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Updated 4/4/15 - PLEASE ADVISE IF YOU SEE ERRORS

>>>>PAINT United - Mainline COMPLETED = ALL 703
A319 (55/55) - A320 (97/97)[475 UA Retro]
B73G (36/36) [3720 Star] - B738 (130/130) [3210/3516 Star] - B739 (126/126 [sCO 78, sUA 48] [3436 CO Retro, 3432 eco-skies, 3848 March of Dimes]
B744 (23/23) Not counting charter aircraft N194UA
B752 (73/73)[sCO 41, sUA 32] [3120 Star]- B753 (sCO 21/21)
B763 (35/35) [653 Star] - B764 (16/16) [3055 Star]
B772 (74/74)[sUA 52, sCO 22][218/794/3017/3021/3022 Star]
B788 (12/12) - B789 (5/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>PAINT United Express - Express COMPLETED = 551,Express REMAINING = 25 (17 UA Blue / 8 Express House)
CRJ-200 SkyWest (66*/66) COMPLETED (*Up to 4 other Skywest House units may float between AA/AS/DL/UA)
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (7/7) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet [ex CO/UA] (105/105) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145 Trans States (17/26) (839/841/842/843/844/845/846/847HK UA Blue, 812HK, 806HK, Trans States House)
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (95/95) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145XR Trans States (8/8) COMPLETED.
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (37/38) (979RP Shuttle America House)
ERJ-175 Mesa (21/21) ALL NEW DELIVERIES.
ERJ-175 Sky West (29/29) ALL NEW DELIVERIES.
CRJ-700 GoJet (25/25) COMPLETED.
CRJ-700 Mesa (20/20) COMPLETED.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (68/70) (756/760SK UA Blue)
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
Q400(Dash 8) Republic (23/24) (510LX Republic House)
EMB-120* SkyWest (10*/18) (* includes 3 in SkyWest House Paint plus [566/567/569/578/579/580/582/586SW in UA blue (8]). [*EMB120 leaving fleet in late 2015]
ATR 42-320 Cape Air (2/2) COMPLETED.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PAINT TOTALS: Mainline 703/703=100%, Express 551/576=95.7%, Combined 1254/1279=98.0%

Removed from fleet totals
B1900D Silver Gulfstream and SAAB 340 [*EMB120 and ERJ135 leaving fleet in late 2015]
_____________________________________________________________________________
INTERIOR/EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS (ONGOING)

WiFi Installation: Mainline, 527 of 703 complete, 75.0%
A319 -(55/55): COMPLETED (WiFi Stream - 55/55)
A320 -(97/97): COMPLETED (WiFi stream - 97/97)
73G - (1/36): 3718
738* - (103/130): 3202-3205,3208-3211,3213-3216-3221,3223-3226,3228-3230,3233-3234,3239,3241-3243,3245,3247-3248,3250,3253-3256,3258-3260,3263,3266-3267,3271-3273,3275,3278-3283,3285-3296,3298-3299,3501-3509,3511-3526,3528-3531
739 - (121/126): 3402-3457,3459-3462,3464-3478,3801-3845
744 - (23/23): COMPLETED (WiFi stream - 23/23)
752 - (31/74): All 15 p.s. units completed, 3101-3104,3106,3114,3118-3121,3123,3130,3132,3135-3136
753 - (12/21): 3853,3860-3867,3869-3871 (WiFi Stream - 9/12 Non DTV aircraft)
763 - (13/35): 641-642,649,652-653,664,666-667,669,671,674,676-677
764 - (6/16): 3052,3055-3057,3059,3061
772 - (59/74): 206,209-217,219-229,768,771-773,775,777-778,780,782,784-785,791,794-797,3001-3018,3020-3022 (WiFi stream 8/9: 210-215,768,772 HI aircraft only)
788 - (1/12): 3913
789 - (5/5): 3950-3954
ERJ175 - (41*/50): *Per UA.com (Mesa & Skywest)
ERJ170 - (19*/38): *Per UA.com (Shuttle America)
CRJ700 - (1*/115): *Per UA.com

New Slimline Y seats: B/E Aerospace Pinnacle for (738 16F/48E+/90Y=166)(739 20F/42E+/117Y=179)
738: (27/130) 3214,3243,3256,3260-3261,3263,3266-3267,3271-3273,3275,3278-3280,3284-3288,3290,3299,3503,3512, 3518,3524,3530
739: (43/126) 3405,3419,3431,3434,3442,3811-3848

Split Scimitar Wingets (107 of 192)
73G: (0/36):
738: (62/130): 3259-3260,3263,3266-3267,3271-3273,3275-3282,3287-3299,3501-3509,3511-3523-3526,3528-3531
739: (45/126): 3418-3419,3424,3430-3431,3434,3441-3442,3444,3448-3449,3453,3455,3460-3462,3478,3812-3819,3821-3832,3834-3843

Economy Plus conversion [*Not Counting Eight 738 Micronesia aircraft]
COMPLETED - 789; 788; 772; 764; 753; 752; 739; 73G.
NOT COMPLETED: 738*- 9 Ships: 3262,3264-3265,3268-3270,3274,3276-3277 (all to get DTV); other 113 Completed [91.8%]

New Hawaii Configuration for Select 772A aircraft - 32Business*/312Y (*7 across F recliners)
B722A (9/9=100%) COMPLETED: 210-215,768,772,779 NOT COMPLETED: [In-Seat Power 1/9: 210]

COMPLETED MODIFICATION PROGRAMS

744 In-Seat Power in Y (23/23)

New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former CO International fleet
B752 (41/41=100%) - B764 (16/16=100%) - B772 (22/22=100%) - 788 (12/12=100%)- 789 (5/5) TOTAL (96/96=100%)

753 ETOPS: (100%] CO Build (9/9) - TZ Build (12/12)

Airbus new interior bins - COMPLETED - (A319 55/55 N8xxUA) (A320 97/97 N4xxUA)

New Slimline Y seats: Recaro 3520 for (A319 8F/42E+/78Y=128) (A320 12F/42E+/96Y=150)
A319: (55/55) - A320: (97/97)

New ps Configuration:
752 (15/15=100%)-Completed: 502,505,510,512,518,546,568,587-590,595-598
Interior Refresh on in service sUA 752 aircraft: Completed:543,545,547,549

New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies
B772(43/43=100%): - Complete
B744 (23/23=100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21=100%) - Complete - B763 (14/14=100%)/[2 Cabin] - Complete
TOTAL INTL(101/101=100%)[excludes 9 HI/Dom aircraft]

DirecTV (Former CO aircraft) [*Not Counting Four 73G and Eight 738 Micronesia aircraft]
73G*- 32/32 [100%]
738*- 113/122 [92.6%] - NOT COMPLETED: 3262,3264-3265,3268-3270,3274,3276-3277, awaiting installation with mid-lav removal
739 - 64/78 [82.1%] - Not Completed 3465-3478 - to get streaming WiFi
753 - 9/9 [100%] - Excl. 12 Hawaiian aircraft (Ex TZ build) with streaming WiFi(3860-3871)
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:52 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 144):

Would it be possible to break out the 772A/772ER and 739A/739ER sub-fleets?
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:58 pm

ERJ-145 Trans States (17/26) (839/841/842/843/844/845/846/847HK UA Blue, 812HK, 806HK, Trans States House).

A photo shows N839HK in globe livery dated December 2014.

I was not sure about N833HK - may have been reported, but could not find a photograph.
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:46 am

OK, I've updated 772s and 739s. Fixed N839HK, which is in Globe.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Updated 4/4/15
>>>>PAINT United - Mainline COMPLETED = ALL 703
A319 (55/55) - A320 (97/97)[475 UA Retro]
B73G (36/36) [3720 Star] - B738 (130/130) [3210/3516 Star] - B739A sCO (12/12) - B739E (114/114) [sCO 66/sUA 48 - 3436 CO Retro, 3432 eco-skies, 3848 March of Dimes]
B744 (23/23) Not counting charter aircraft N194UA
B752 (73/73)[sCO 41, sUA 32] [3120 Star]- B753 (sCO 21/21)
B763 (35/35) [653 Star] - B764 (16/16) [3055 Star]
B772 (74/74)[sUA 19A, 33ER, sCO 22][218/794/3017/3021/3022 Star - Star paint are all ER models]
B788 (12/12) - B789 (5/5)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>PAINT United Express - Express COMPLETED = 551,Express REMAINING = 25 (17 UA Blue / 8 Express House)
CRJ-200 SkyWest (66*/66) COMPLETED (*Up to 4 other Skywest House units may float between AA/AS/DL/UA)
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (7/7) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet [ex CO/UA] (105/105) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145 Trans States (17/26) (841/842/843/844/845/846/847HK UA Blue, 812HK, 806HK, Trans States House)
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (95/95) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145XR Trans States (8/8) COMPLETED.
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (37/38) (979RP Shuttle America House)
ERJ-175 Mesa (21/21) ALL NEW DELIVERIES.
ERJ-175 Sky West (29/29) ALL NEW DELIVERIES.
CRJ-700 GoJet (25/25) COMPLETED.
CRJ-700 Mesa (20/20) COMPLETED.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (68/70) (756/760SK UA Blue)
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
Q400(Dash 8) Republic (23/24) (510LX Republic House)
EMB-120* SkyWest (10*/18) (* includes 3 in SkyWest House Paint plus [566/567/569/578/579/580/582/586SW in UA blue (8]). [*EMB120 leaving fleet in late 2015]
ATR 42-320 Cape Air (2/2) COMPLETED.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PAINT TOTALS: Mainline 703/703=100%, Express 551/576=95.7%, Combined 1254/1279=98.0%

Removed from fleet totals
B1900D Silver Gulfstream and SAAB 340 [*EMB120 and ERJ135 leaving fleet in late 2015]
_____________________________________________________________________________
INTERIOR/EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS (ONGOING)

WiFi Installation: Mainline, 527 of 703 complete, 75.0%
A319 -(55/55): COMPLETED (WiFi Stream - 55/55)
A320 -(97/97): COMPLETED (WiFi stream - 97/97)
73G - (1/36): 3718
738* - (103/130): 3202-3205,3208-3211,3213-3216-3221,3223-3226,3228-3230,3233-3234,3239,3241-3243,3245,3247-3248,3250,3253-3256,3258-3260,3263,3266-3267,3271-3273,3275,3278-3283,3285-3296,3298-3299,3501-3509,3511-3526,3528-3531
739A- (11/12): 3402-3412
739E- (110/114): 3413-3457,3459-3462,3464-3478,3801-3845
744 - (23/23): COMPLETED (WiFi stream - 23/23)
752 - (31/74): All 15 p.s. units completed, 3101-3104,3106,3114,3118-3121,3123,3130,3132,3135-3136
753 - (12/21): 3853,3860-3867,3869-3871 (WiFi Stream - 9/12 Non DTV aircraft)
763 - (13/35): 641-642,649,652-653,664,666-667,669,671,674,676-677
764 - (6/16): 3052,3055-3057,3059,3061
772A- ITPE(7/10): 769,771,773,775,777-778,780 Pacific: 8/9: 210*,211-215,768,772 (*Power)
772E- (44/55): 206,209,216-217,219-229,782,784-785,791,794-797,3001-3018,3020-3022
788 - (1/12): 3913
789 - (5/5): 3950-3954
ERJ175 - (41*/50): *Per UA.com (Mesa & Skywest)
ERJ170 - (19*/38): *Per UA.com (Shuttle America)
CRJ700 - (1*/115): *Per UA.com

New Slimline Y seats: B/E Aerospace Pinnacle for (738 16F/48E+/90Y=166)(739 20F/42E+/117Y=179)
738: (27/130) 3214,3243,3256,3260-3261,3263,3266-3267,3271-3273,3275,3278-3280,3284-3288,3290,3299,3503,3512, 3518,3524,3530
739A (1/12) 3405
739E (42/114) 3419,3431,3434,3442,3811-3848

Split Scimitar Wingets
73G: (0/36):
738: (62/130): 3259-3260,3263,3266-3267,3271-3273,3275-3282,3287-3299,3501-3509,3511-3523-3526,3528-3531
739: (45/126): 3418-3419,3424,3430-3431,3434,3441-3442,3444,3448-3449,3453,3455,3460-3462,3478,3812-3819,3821-3832,3834-3843 (All are 739ERs)

Economy Plus conversion [*Not Counting Eight 738 Micronesia aircraft]
COMPLETED - 789; 788; 772; 764; 753; 752; 739A; 739E; 73G.
NOT COMPLETED: 738*- 9 Ships: 3262,3264-3265,3268-3270,3274,3276-3277 (all to get DTV); other 113 Completed [91.8%]

New Hawaii Configuration for Select 772A aircraft - 32Business*/312Y (*7 across F recliners)
B722A (9/9=100%) COMPLETED: 210-215,768,772,779 NOT COMPLETED: [In-Seat Power 1/9: 210]

COMPLETED MODIFICATION PROGRAMS

744 In-Seat Power in Y (23/23)

New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former CO International fleet
B752 (41/41=100%) - B764 (16/16=100%) - B772 (22/22=100%) - 788 (12/12=100%)- 789 (5/5) TOTAL (96/96=100%)

753 ETOPS: (100%] CO Build (9/9) - TZ Build (12/12)
Airbus new interior bins - COMPLETED - (A319 55/55 N8xxUA) (A320 97/97 N4xxUA)

New Slimline Y seats: Recaro 3520 for (A319 8F/42E+/78Y=128) (A320 12F/42E+/96Y=150)
A319: (55/55) - A320: (97/97)

New ps Configuration:
752 (15/15=100%)-Completed: 502,505,510,512,518,546,568,587-590,595-598
Interior Refresh on in service sUA 752 aircraft: Completed:543,545,547,549

New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies
B772(43/43=100%): - Complete (772A 10/10, 772ER 33/33)
B744 (23/23=100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21=100%) - Complete - B763 (14/14=100%)/[2 Cabin] - Complete
TOTAL INTL(101/101=100%)[exlcudes 9 HI/Dom aircraft]

DirecTV (Former CO aircraft) [*Not Counting Four 73G and Eight 738 Micronesia aircraft]
73G*- 32/32 [100%]
738*- 113/122 [90.8%] - NOT COMPLETED: 3262,3264-3265,3268-3270,3274,3276-3277, awaiting installation with mid-lav removal
739A- 12/12 [100%]
739E- 52/66 [78.8%] - Not Completed 3465-3478 - to get streaming WiFi
753 - 9/9 [100%] - Excl. 12 Hawaiian aircraft (Ex TZ build) with streaming WiFi(3860-3871)

[Edited 2015-04-04 18:47:20]
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:24 pm

753:
N77867 sked to enter MIA 2153/6Apr, my guess is for In-Seat Power

764:
N69063 sked to exit HKG 2198/8Apr with Intl WiFi
N76064 sked to enter HKG 2199/8Apr, probably for Intl WiFi

772:
N783UA exited CWF 2120/5Apr with Intl WiFi
N78004 sked to exit HKG 2194/8Apr, maint

ERJ175
N135SY entered revenue service 3/9/15
N136SY entered revenue service 3/9/15
N138SY entered revenue service 4/3/15
N139SY entered revenue service 4/4/15
 
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RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 23

Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:03 am

738:
N17244 exited INT 2181/7Apr, should have WoiFi, but not shown yet on UA.com yet
N73251 entered INT 2171/8Apr for WiFi

739:
N69847 sked to exit INT 2171/8Apr, should have WiFi, not shown on UA.com yet

772:
N787UA sked to enter CWF 2173/8Apr for WiFi

789:
N13954 now sked 1st revenue flight 1660/8Apr DEN-IAH

EMB120 fleet now down to 16 units.

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