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KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:43 pm

Hi guys,

Stumbled upon this on Facebook.
KLM uploaded a 3 part (for now?) series of Cockpit Tales

Part 1 (AMS-LHR) All about the Autopilot:
http://youtu.be/9NFq2eZSDJE

Part 2 (AMS-JFK) explanation about a Atlantic Crossing:
http://youtu.be/fwqEe0XkggI

Part 3 (AMS-SXM) all about landing on a short runway with a big bird:
http://youtu.be/7GZ3fSDFevE

Enjoy!

I haven't tried it, but apparently longer versions are available as well...
 
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:51 pm

I could watch stuff like that all day. Thanks for sharing.
 
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:15 pm

Quoting wingman (Reply 1):
I could watch stuff like that all day. Thanks for sharing.

Same for me too ... hope they do more of these in the future! It's great that some carriers recognise that people are interested in the technical part of flying!
 
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:34 pm

Even better: there's a link to a much longer version at the end of the short runway vid (probably the others too).

Great stuff. thanks.
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:46 pm

in that first video, they let the autopilot land for them? I thought they only do that in extremely low visibility.
 
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:46 pm

Quoting BiggerJetsPlz (Reply 4):
in that first video, they let the autopilot land for them? I thought they only do that in extremely low visibility.

The autoland system has to be tested every so often (I think it varies from airline to airline) and also crews need to keep up their proficiency on programming the acft for autolands, so it can't only be in very low vis ops. It would be quite possible for a pilot to make only a very small number of landings in his/her career in actual Cat II/III conditions, so they need to keep their experience up.
 
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:55 pm

Fantastic video's, thanks for sharing! Saw the long version.

Quoting BiggerJetsPlz (Reply 4):
in that first video, they let the autopilot land for them?

Yes, they did.
 
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:33 pm

Actually, in my opinion, the true delight is this site: www.jetstreamtv.net

It's got full videos of the two flights, and many other interesting videos.
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:47 pm

Quoting starbucks (Thread starter):
Stumbled upon this on Facebook.

Thanks for sharing! I always appreciate education videos, especially from B744 flight deck.  
 
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:47 pm

When it comes to marketing through social media KLM is really setting the bar high. I love their videos and the way they communicate with their customers through Facebook. Kudos to them!
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:49 pm

Quoting BiggerJetsPlz (Reply 4):
in that first video, they let the autopilot land for them? I thought they only do that in extremely low visibility.

That's what the system is there for, but in order for the crew (and in some cases the aircraft) to be current for such landings, autolands occasionally need to be conducted in non-CATIII conditions. I suspect that in this case, it was just done for show, seeing as the subject of the video was the autopilot's capabilities.
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:34 pm

Quoting starbucks (Thread starter):

Hartstikke dank!!

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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:03 pm

Quoting wingman (Reply 1):

I could watch stuff like that all day. Thanks for sharing.

I could not agree more....thanks for sharing.
 
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:59 pm

You can do an autoland on most runways with ILS, there are certain limits about glideslope angle, threshold crossing height and wind limitations that have to be taken into account but I have often done autolands on CAT 1 ILS runways. The protection area isn't clear and the signal could therefor be distorted and one has to be ready to disconnect. But usually they are just fine.

I know that different carriers have different rules on autoland currency for plane and crew. KLM pilots perform 2 CAT 2/3 autolands on every proficiency check (2 times per year). I am not aware of any autoland testing of the plane that needs to be done from time to time by the crew at KLM. I know that US carriers do have such a requirement but don't have the details.

Furthermore captain is always pilot flying during CAT 2/3 autolands.
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:00 am

Quoting bueb0g (Reply 10):
but in order for the crew (and in some cases the aircraft) to be current for such landings, autolands occasionally need to be conducted in non-CATIII conditions
Quoting airbuster (Reply 13):
I know that US carriers do have such a requirement but don't have the details.

I believe the rule with the FAA is 30 days. The plane has to have an autoland check every 30 days.
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:20 am

This is a really slick, well filmed & produced series! I'm flabbergasted!!
 
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RE: KLM Cockpit Tales, A New Series

Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:12 pm

And this is what KLM produces for kids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlElTes2GPA

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