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AA Introduces Heritage Amenity Kits

Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:13 pm



Nine different amenity kits available for business passengers on international flights and F passengers on transcon flights.

The 9 featured airlines are:

- American Airlines (pre-merger)
- AirCal
- Allegheny
- America West
- Piedmont
- PSA
- Reno Air
- Trans World Airlines (TWA)
- US Airways (pre-merger)

This should give us an idea of what specific retro liveries will the new AA have.

Press release: http://hub.aa.com/en/nr/pressrelease...eshed-collectors-item-amenity-kits

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[Edited 2015-02-03 09:03:44]
 
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RE: AA Introduces Heritage Amenity Kits

Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:17 pm

Ooooh I would definitely collect them all!
 
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:26 pm

I see an eBay bonanza for some!
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:33 pm

I miss HP...someone get me one!
 
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:42 pm

Quoting realsim (Thread starter):
- Trans World Airways (TWA)

Not your fault, but the press release goofed.
 
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:48 pm

Don't mind if I do! I want!
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RE: AA Introduces Heritage Amenity Kits

Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:07 pm

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 3):
I miss HP...someone get me one!

Me too! I also really like the AirCal one. I hope that they sell them online, but as B727FA mentioned, they will probably turn up on eBay.

I know the pmUS management team gets criticized a lot around here, but I don't think that anyone can deny that they've been great at honoring their history for the past ten years. Now with the merger with American, they have an even richer history to celebrate!
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RE: AA Introduces Heritage Amenity Kits

Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:09 pm

Quoting simairlinenet (Reply 4):
Not your fault, but the press release goofed.

I received an email about these, and the email was correct. Odd that they haven't updated the release, unless it was just inadvertently typed wrong there and nobody has caught it yet.
 
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:38 pm

Very original and fun idea. They look great.

Hopefully AA will make them available for purchase for those that want them.
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:15 pm

I think it's a great idea for an amenity kit. Sure is better than UA's tin cans.

This is something that previous AA management, would have never thought, or cared of doing. At least DP keeps us AvGeeks entertained with this, and retro liveries. Although, we do need a nice TRANCA (TransCaribbean), representation somewhere. Now that would be an awesome livery to apply!
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:26 pm

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 9):
This is something that previous AA management, would have never thought, or cared of doing.

True. They were too focused on making sure its catering standards and soft product presentation were quality and competitive.

It's a great idea; doesn't make up for the fact that AA's new first and domestic soft product - domestic and international - is an embarrassment.

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Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:39 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 10):
True. They were too focused on making sure its catering standards and soft product presentation were quality and competitive.

Oh Mark, I don't care if upgrades don't get a frozen, mass produced meal, on an hour and thirty minute flight. Obviously, Horton wasn't cutting it, so DP came in, and it is, what it is. But hey, they brought back your warms nuts.

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Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:43 pm

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 9):
This is something that previous AA management, would have never thought, or cared of doing.
Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 10):
True. They were too focused on making sure its catering standards and soft product presentation were quality and competitive.

Meh. I think it's time to set aside the back-and-forth over one management team versus another. Arpey, Horton, Parker, Kirby ... they're all business people first and foremost, making the best of what they have to work with. In fairness, all of these guys made decisions that many of us have liked, and that many of us have hated - but I firmly believe all of them were doing what they thought was best for the long-term health of the enterprise, given the circumstances at the time (whether that time was 2003 or 2015). Either way, the past is in the past now.

There are some things I'm not crazy about that have changed at AA since the merger - somewhat degraded premium food, a noticeable downgrade in the focus and attention to detail with respect to branding and imaging (just go take a look at any Delta, or even United, investor or analyst presentation vs the 1995-esque USAirways-style standard AA has now adopted). But overall, I'm pleasantly surprised thus far. The branding has remained AA - as it should. Admirals Clubs actually appear to be betting better, not worse. Premium cabin upgrades are continuing. They've retained important legacies from AA's rich and storied history, like significant flight numbers (1/2, 5/8/123/102, 50/51, 100/101, etc.), "Flagship" branding, etc. And yeah, I think these heritage-themed amenity kits are a cool and creative idea - and emblematic of one other positive change I think we've seen at AA since the merger, which is the restoration of some "fun" to what had frankly (and understandably) become a staid, stoic and downtrodden culture over a decade of misery since 9/11. Personally, I've found this perceptible among AA front line staff, and I'm really happy to see it - they deserve it what they've been through.

To me, things are looking up, and I remain cautiously optimistic about the future of AA - regardless of who the CEO is.

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RE: AA Introduces Heritage Amenity Kits

Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:47 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 10):
True. They were too focused on making sure its catering standards and soft product presentation were quality and competitive.

It's a great idea; doesn't make up for the fact that AA's new first and domestic soft product - domestic and international - is an embarrassment.

Oh for the love of Pete. It's just not that bad. I'm in an AA F cabin multiple times per month and it's really not the downgrade that people make it out to be. The new crockery actually looks much *better* than the dated stuff legacy AA was using, and I don't miss the thin, washed out linens one bit. I'm sorry that the lives of so many people on FlyerTalk were apparently validated by the presence of a bread plate, but the majority of folks just don't notice.

As for these amenity kits - awesome idea.
 
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:02 pm

Does anyone know how long these will be available?

I don't normally fly AA anymore, but I would love to pick up the collection...
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:02 pm

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 13):
Oh for the love of Pete. It's just not that bad. I'm in an AA F cabin multiple times per month and it's really not the downgrade that people make it out to be. The new crockery actually looks much *better* than the dated stuff legacy AA was using, and I don't miss the thin, washed out linens one bit. I'm sorry that the lives of so many people on FlyerTalk were apparently validated by the presence of a bread plate, but the majority of folks just don't notice.

The bread plates are actually back - or at least they were this week when I flew.

The real problem is what they are serving on international now. They've fixed some of the problems domestic, fortunately.

But yeah, it's pretty bad, especially when United basically releases a press release bragging about introducing everything American discontinued. Or when Delta continues to make really strong efforts at investing in its product.

And American's newest excuse for its poor quality product? That US Airways planes only have one oven.

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 11):
Oh Mark, I don't care if upgrades don't get a frozen, mass produced meal, on an hour and thirty minute flight.

You don't care if your employer presents a quality product? American also doesn't give free upgrades to all but highest tier elites, and never to companions.

It be one thing if AA was simply falling itself in line with other airlines - but instead it's presenting a seriously poor product when competitors are really stepping up their game.

I had 30k on AA in January and nothing else booked for the rest of the year. I'll be flying others for now, but I hope AA improves so I can come back.
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:06 pm

Sooo cool. I want the Piedmont and TWA ones.
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:11 pm

The only thing that irritates me about the amenity kits is that they're only offered one way...if it's a westbound, daytime flight, forget it...
 
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:12 pm

Love them, want them all.
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:13 pm

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 17):
The only thing that irritates me about the amenity kits is that they're only offered one way...if it's a westbound, daytime flight, forget it...

They are offered in both directions.
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:15 pm

Brilliant marketing.
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:16 pm

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 16):
Sooo cool. I want the Piedmont and TWA ones.

I want the RenoAir one. I bet I'm one of the few people here who ever flew on QQ, before AA... errr...dismantled it?
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:33 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 21):

I jumped for joy when I saw the QQ kit. I was hired at QQ at 19 years old as a part time CSA while attending school at UNR. I became a flight attendant before the merger. I look back at my QQ days with the most fond memories, and made several lifelong friends while there. This along with the pending QQ retro livery have me over the moon!

As for the kits, they will be offered starting this month through January 2016, in three different cycles. Feb-May will have Reno Air, TWA and Piedmont, Jun-Sep will have America West, Allegheny and AirCal, and Oct-Jan will have AA, US, and PSA.

The other big news associated with this is AA will now offer amenity kits in Business Class between JFK and LAX/SFO. There are several different kits (First International, Business International, First Domestic and Business Domestic) with varying products, amenities and sizes, but they will all share the heritage theme. Socks and eye masks will also carry the color scheme of the airline represented. AA is also introducing new pajamas in First Class International that are black (instead of the current gray), and new slippers.
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:42 pm

Quoting qqflyboy (Reply 22):
The other big news associated with this is AA will now offer amenity kits in Business Class between JFK and LAX/SFO.

Also MIA-LAX.
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RE: AA Introduces Heritage Amenity Kits

Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:03 pm

I too, would like to get my hands on a few of these. QQ, PSA, TW, US, Hell, I want them all! lol! So yes, I do hope AA offers these for sale on their website.
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:09 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 19):
They are offered in both directions.

Oh please...oh please...OH PLEASE let them have it on my LHR-RDU flight in March!
 
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:16 pm

Where's the love for Empire and Mohawk?!
 
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:17 pm

I want them! Will probably take a long time to collect, and I'm sure you will find them on ebay for sale at some point.
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RE: AA Introduces Heritage Amenity Kits

Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:20 pm

Ooo very cool! Cant wait to collect them all! Love the way things are going with the new AA
 
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Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:37 am

Dear AA:

Please make these for sale

Thank you

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RE: AA Introduces Heritage Amenity Kits

Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:55 am

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 15):
You don't care if your employer presents a quality product?

Yeah, I don't work for AA.  
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Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:41 am

Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 29):
Dear AA:

Please make these for sale

Thank you

I 2nd to that! I'd love that.
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Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:08 am

Oooh that's really cool. I may need to track some of these down.

Thanks for sharing
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Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:01 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 10):

It's a great idea; doesn't make up for the fact that AA's new first and domestic soft product - domestic and international - is an embarrassment.

Apparently you didn't get the email I did from American this week which says:

"Now, we're continuing on our journey of going for great and bringing you more throughout the year to deliver a top‑notch travel experience. Look out for these enhancements coming your way:
A fresh start

On international flights

In First Class: We're introducing a new amenity kit that includes all of the items you already love – plus, by popular demand, we're adding Scope® mouthwash for a breath of fresh air. "

Now of course you have to fly Internationally,and in First Class, not Business Class, to experience the luxury of Scope mouthwash.   
 
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Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:29 am

Quoting AFCJETS (Reply 33):
In First Class: We're introducing a new amenity kit that includes all of the items you already love – plus, by popular demand, we're adding Scope® mouthwash for a breath of fresh air. "

Now of course you have to fly Internationally,and in First Class, not Business Class, to experience the luxury of Scope mouthwash.

A real "breath of fresh air" would be longhaul cabin crews who actually give a damn about service. Domestic crews are usually pretty solid, but many international crew have this attitude that they're untouchable and deliver the bare minimum (and often not even that).

Greeting passengers by name? Nope. Service with a smile? Nope. Regular passes through the cabin to check drinks? Nope. Dining on demand? Sure, but expect lots of exasperated sighs and eye rolling. Want that heavily-touted "turndown service" in F? Expect to get glared at. All of these things are table stakes on most international carriers in F and J, but on AA it's like pulling teeth to get anything other than a meal tray plopped in front of you a half-hour after takeoff. Premium passengers shouldn't have to get up and go to the galley for everything.

A bit of a rant, yeah, but enhanced F/J service only works if it's delivered professionally and consistently. AA longhaul crews are anything but.
 
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RE: AA Introduces Heritage Amenity Kits

Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:00 am

They look cheap. Is this suppose to make everyone want to fly AA? I think the 'world tins' that UA put out are a lot classier with better products.
 
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Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:32 am

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 15):

Same boat here. It was over when they served this horrid hunk of beef on a Mia-jfk flight on a 777. I honestly never saw meat look like this.

As of last week SFO-JFK they had the sundae back, the meal choices are more suited for vegaterians. The cookies are still reheats. I refuse them based on principal. Definitely a service decline the flight attendants are sometimes embarrassed.

This week on MIA-JFK we had a burrito or rolled enchilada with what appeared to be the beef I returned in December pulverized and mixed with black beans. It was terrible. Bread was served on a plate this go around.

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Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:39 am

Awesome idea. They look awesome, would love to have the TWA one and the PSA and AirCal ones.
 
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Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:08 am

Quoting fxramper (Reply 35):
They look cheap. Is this suppose to make everyone want to fly AA? I think the 'world tins' that UA put out are a lot classier with better products.

As much as I like US and the new AA honoring their heritage, I have to agree and think perhaps International First Class is not the place for this. Also, except for TWA, none of those carriers even had first class, except for Piedmont in their last two years (except for a handful of transcon 727 ERs, they had it for the last five years) which forced US to adopt, and I am not sure when America West added a first class cabin but I don't believe they started with one, PSA never had one, and I don't think Reno Air did either but I could be wrong.
 
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Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:54 am

Quoting UALWN (Reply 21):
I want the RenoAir one. I bet I'm one of the few people here who ever flew on QQ, before AA... errr...dismantled it?

I did! One time from LAX-RNO-SEA (I think that was the route).

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Where's the love for Empire and Mohawk?!

I forgot about Empire, but my first thought was "Where's Mohawk?"
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Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:54 am

Quoting delta2ual (Reply 39):
I did! One time from LAX-RNO-SEA (I think that was the route).

I also flew them only once: RNO-LAX in December 1994, but I remember that flight very fondly for some reason.
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Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:28 pm

The 'party boys' from Tempe are putting some of the fun back into AA.   
 
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RE: AA Introduces Heritage Amenity Kits

Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:11 pm

Quoting AFCJETS (Reply 38):
and I am not sure when America West added a first class cabin but I don't believe they started with one,

They did have a first class on the 757 and Airbus fleets from the beginning and it was added to the 737s in 1995. First class came to America West Express with the arrival of the YV CRJ-700s in 2001.

I flew in first on America West many times and it was quite wonderful! The best slice of apple pie I've ever had was on America West's first class.
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RE: AA Introduces Heritage Amenity Kits

Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:43 am

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 34):
Greeting passengers by name? Nope. Service with a smile? Nope. Regular passes through the cabin to check drinks? Nope. Dining on demand? Sure, but expect lots of exasperated sighs and eye rolling. Want that heavily-touted "turndown service" in F? Expect to get glared at. All of these things are table stakes on most international carriers in F and J, but on AA it's like pulling teeth to get anything other than a meal tray plopped in front of you a half-hour after takeoff. Premium passengers shouldn't have to get up and go to the galley for everything.

I agree with much of what you mention is lacking today at most airlines, and I don't fly American first class anymore since they narrowed the seat beginning with 738 deliveries where you can see the passengers in front of you through the awkward hole between rows (I would almost rather fly them in coach domestically for that reason alone) so I really can't comment specifically on American first class service today. I do however think the turn down service in IFC is a bit ridiculous and unnecessary, unless perhaps it is Emirates or Etihad where you truly have a private cabin with doors and it shuts off, and they have such long average stage lengths too. Turndown service in a hotel uusually occurs when you are out to dinner, or if you are in your room, you're not in your bed or hovering over the housekeeper as she does it. I mean, where the heck are you going to go on the flight when they turn down your comforter? It just seems a bit creepy, it's almost like the flight attendants are supposed to tuck you in or something, so I can see why it makes their skin crawl when someone asks for turn down service, even though I know they are not literally being tucked in, the passenger is just too close and IMO it is demeaning to them to be watched over while preparing your bed, especially those who started before that was part of their job description. Yes I am sure Pan Am Clippers from 100 years ago may have done it too where they had sleeping births but again that is more like Etihad and Emirates. They are aviation professionals, not housekeepers, and it is silly for the airlines to offer it. Does anyone see my point? I am guessing a lot of FA's do.











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