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Thu Feb 12, 2015 2:50 pm

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 96):
Copenhagen begins as new daily route, Lublin comes back, and Treviso goes year round.

We're looking at 2x 320, 2x 738 and 1x 712 on CPH some days next summer. I can't see that being profitable for anyone.
 
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Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:06 pm

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 98):
After last time? Not even at that price..... now pass me the Green Kool Aid.  

I didn't bite either purely because I wasn't interested in heading to CPH at the moment. Still amazing value and you wouldnt get one stop on the DART for that !
 
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Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:40 pm

For those who like long-running sagas, Ryanair's appeal against the UK competition authority ruling, which ordered it to sell most of its shares in Aer Lingus, has been rejected.
On we go to a further Court appeal.
 
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Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:57 pm

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 78):

I agree in principal howver it's heavily IT traffic and not a real threat to EI.

TXL now officially on EI website
 
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Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:15 pm

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 102):
On we go to a further Court appeal.

I'm not sure how the UK supreme court works. Can they refuse to hear cases like in the US? If so, I hope they flat out reject the case, especially with FR claiming its a human rights issue.  
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Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:44 pm

I must say I was impressed by Willie Walsh today having listened to/watched his various performances in Dublin on RTE radio, Today FM, Newstalk and RTE News (granted he pretty much said the same thing across the board). I appreciate he's merely on a charm offensive and its not this that impressed me, but rather that he spoke very well and seemed to be very passionate in what he said. He was also well able to handle whatever was thrown at him and he was openly honest about the jobs that would be cut. It was a well orchestrated day's PR work but I feel this should have been done somewhat sooner to help curtail the opposition to the bid.
 
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Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:25 pm

Quoting Phen (Reply 105):
I must say I was impressed by Willie Walsh today having listened to/watched his various performances in Dublin on RTE radio, Today FM, Newstalk and RTE News (granted he pretty much said the same thing across the board).


Heres a piece of that committee meeting. I wish there was more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P7vrjHDCUY
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Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:30 pm

Quoting Phen (Reply 105):
I must say I was impressed by Willie Walsh today having listened to/watched his various performances in Dublin on RTE radio, Today FM, Newstalk and RTE News (granted he pretty much said the same thing across the board). I appreciate he's merely on a charm offensive and its not this that impressed me, but rather that he spoke very well and seemed to be very passionate in what he said. He was also well able to handle whatever was thrown at him and he was openly honest about the jobs that would be cut. It was a well orchestrated day's PR work but I feel this should have been done somewhat sooner to help curtail the opposition to the bid.

He also agreed, when pressed on the issue a second time, to offer airport-specfic guarantees on LHR connectivity. This in itself is progress.

The members of the Oireachtas committee, bar a couple, were totally unprepared for the event. A couple of speakers were a downright embarrassment, to the extent that Walsh himself gasped in disbelief at times. He did well to remain as calm and coherent as he did amidst the ill-informed, union-driven tripe. Overall, I think he'll leave Dublin feeling that it was a job well done.
 
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Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:35 pm

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 106):
Heres a piece of that committee meeting. I wish there was more.

Car crash question from a politician that loves the sound of his own voice, and a fluent considered answer.

As usual, he is a teacher.
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Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:39 pm

Quoting EI320 (Reply 107):
The members of the Oireachtas committee, bar a couple, were totally unprepared for the event. A couple of speakers were a downright embarrassment, to the extent that Walsh himself gasped in disbelief at times. He did well to remain as calm and coherent as he did amidst the ill-informed, union-driven tripe. Overall, I think he'll leave Dublin feeling that it was a job well done.

I didn't see much of the actual committee hearing apart from the clip posted above. I can imagine exactly the type of ill-informed and 'local-agenda-election-round-the-corner' politics he was up against. Perhaps someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that the committee was chaired by a TD who used to be a teacher/Galway football manager. With all due respect to him, how is he a suitable chairperson given his background could quite possibly have nothing less to do with aviation even if he tried? If I am missing something obvious here please enlighten me!

The Cork TD in the clip above had valid questions but to me they are questions that don't really seem too relevant or specific to the IAG bid. ORK is still going to have the same problems in 6 months' time whether IAG buy EI or not, so he may as well be driving up to Shamrock House to ask CM's successor what he/she plans to do to reverse the decline in numbers  
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:58 am

Quoting bestwestern (Reply 108):
Car crash question from a politician that loves the sound of his own voice, an

Funny that he posted "his hard hitting an inciteful question to IAG Chairman Willie Walsh" on his own Youtube channel*


* my quotation.
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:13 pm

It's at times like this that you get to appreciate the sheer paucity of talent and vision among Irish public representatives; choose to stand for election to the national parliament and you take what goes with that: leadership, NOT regression.

Again, I'll say it, EI's future is being held hostage to politics. These people are asking for something which simply is not available in today's commercial world: certainty.

I think WW explained himself well and I was glad that he pointed to the need and possibility of building on EI's success of building a t/a hub at Dublin.
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:04 pm

Well EI-DUO has returned from her month in Bordeaux, now fitted with the new business class! First flight to Boston tomorrow.



Photo: Aer Lingus
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:10 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 112):
Well EI-DUO has returned from her month in Bordeaux, now fitted with the new business class! First flight to Boston tomorrow.

Lovely, it looks just great, doesn't it!  
I do enjoy a spot of flying, especially when it's not in economy!
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:11 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 112):
Well EI-DUO has returned from her month in Bordeaux, now fitted with the new business class! First flight to Boston tomorrow.

Looks very nice  

[Edited 2015-02-13 10:22:19]
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:05 pm

Quoting classiclover (Reply 113):
Well EI-DUO has returned from her month in Bordeaux, now fitted with the new business class! First flight to Boston tomorrow.
Lovely, it looks just great, doesn't it!

It looks very good indeed; well done Aer Lingus!
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:01 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 112):
Well EI-DUO has returned from her month in Bordeaux, now fitted with the new business class! First flight to Boston tomorrow

What are the new configurations?
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:28 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 112):
Well EI-DUO has returned from her month in Bordeaux, now fitted with the new business class! First flight to Boston tomorrow.

Very nice, it looks very bright and light. It will be interesting to see it from the front and with the cabin dressed, hopefully that will soften it just a bit. I like the shamrock on the bulkhead. Is this repeated in the other cabins too?
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:54 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 112):
Well EI-DUO has returned from her month in Bordeaux, now fitted with the new business class! First flight to Boston tomorrow.

Looking great! I have noticed that fares for Business class on EI have gone up a lot compared to 2014, almost certainly due to the new business class cabin...
Let's fly! Unless it's on a CRJ 200, then I'll stay down here.
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:34 pm

Just checking the FR website and I see FCO now listed as a destination. No dates are currently bookable but it seems like FR are starting Fiumicino!
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:48 pm

Quoting Cipango (Reply 119):

I read they were going twice daily.
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:34 pm

Quoting Cipango (Reply 119):
Quoting OA260 (Reply 120):

They operated a return rugby flight to FCO last week in addition to extra CIA flights..
 
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Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:21 pm

LG will be operating some charters from DUB this Summer. For example DUB-FAO LG2283/LG2284 on Saturdays. Will be great to see them back  
 
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Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:32 pm

EI are planning to offer three flights to LBA on Fridays throughout the summer, operated by AT4, interestingly enough. Good to see that the route is getting extra frequencies at this early stage, even if modest on a route with direct competition from FR.
 
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Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:40 pm

Quoting Cipango (Reply 118):
Looking great! I have noticed that fares for Business class on EI have gone up a lot compared to 2014, almost certainly due to the new business class cabin...

Yeah, they've gone up quite a bit - no more recession! The fares to SFO are huge! Even BOS is €1999 return!
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Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:55 pm

Quoting classiclover (Reply 124):
The fares to SFO are huge! Even BOS is €1999 return!

Thats the walk up rate   The big companies filling the front are on a preferential deal. GC cards included  
Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 123):
EI are planning to offer three flights to LBA on Fridays throughout the summer,

Always good to see EI increase on the regionals. Long may it last  
 
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Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:04 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 125):
Thats the walk up rate The big companies filling the front are on a preferential deal. GC cards included

Hahaha! Yes, of course - all I need to do is create a big company or work for one  
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Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:16 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 125):
Thats the walk up rate   The big companies filling the front are on a preferential deal. GC cards included  

Haha! Making me feel poor now... Out of interest how big of a discount does a company get does anyone know?
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:53 am

Internal candidate Stephen Kavanagh gets top job at Aer Lingus

After 26 years at airline Kavanagh will take over the top job from Christoph Mueller on March 1st

Aer Lingus, which is currently the subject of a takeover bid by IAG, on Monday announced the appointment of Stephen Kavanagh as its new chief executive officer (CEO) and an executive director.
Mr Kavanagh joined the airline in 1988 and his most recent role was as chief strategy and planning officer. His name had been in the frame for the top job for some time.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/t...ts-top-job-at-aer-lingus-1.2105593

Think a few on here will be disappointed when then read this news !
 
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:23 am

Is EI maintance done in house at the moment? Or are heavy checks contracted out? Could be some cost savings here if thats the case..even the possibilty of an IAG maintance base in Ireland
 
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Need some help.

I'm on a mileage run on Sunday with BA from LHR, I'm booked on the 13.15pm from DUB-LHR, if I land on the incoming LHR-DUB flight which is due into Dublin at 12.20pm with only hand-luggage, is the transfer at DUB T1 efficient enough for me to get through security and back into the 300 gates in time to head back on the same aircraft?

Thanks

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Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:47 am

I watched the replay of willie Walsh talking to the joint committee. I have to say, I was very disappointed with the committee. It's role is to be non political. Towards the end there was one member asking Walsh to commit to long haul services from noc!

Together with the labour Tds so called "Aer Lingus seven", have been quoted that they will not support the takeover until after the election next year.

Your jobs are important to us until we get elected next year, then we will sell.

My big fear is that a small number of tds could block this takeover for selfish reasons, and come next year, there will be no airline group interested.

Aer Lingus has been out grown by every airline in Europe because of political influence, I think it's time for aerlingus to be allowed to grow unhindered, without the government parties blocking such moves to protect their jobs.

If the mid west tds had their way, they would still insist that AL stops in Shannon on the way to dublin!

Narrow minded selfish politics.

If I had a lot of shares in Aer lingus, I would dump them if this takeover fails, I would have concerns for their future.
 
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:53 am

Quoting pilot21 (Reply 130):
Need some help.

I'm on a mileage run on Sunday with BA from LHR, I'm booked on the 13.15pm from DUB-LHR, if I land on the incoming LHR-DUB flight which is due into Dublin at 12.20pm with only hand-luggage, is the transfer at DUB T1 efficient enough for me to get through security and back into the 300 gates in time to head back on the same aircraft?

Thanks

Pilot21

Your return flight will close the gate at the latest std-10 mins. It should only take about 15 mins (with no major queues), to get to the gate.

It is very tight, I would plan a backup, as you only have a realistic 30 mins to get from aircraft door BA, to aircraft door AL.

Bear in mind that the BA flight from Lhr, might have a delay for departure. That time of the day is heavy outbound long haul demand, which causes delays on taxi in Lhr.

Best of luck
 
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:00 am

Quoting pilot21 (Reply 130):

If everything is on time then it is most certainly possible. A few weeks back I know someone who did it with time to spare. They used Fast Track. Of course no one can give you a guarantee as delays happen everyday but try to sit as far forward as possible and run! Let us know how you get on.
 
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:10 am

Quoting 321neoLR (Reply 131):
Towards the end there was one member asking Walsh to commit to long haul services from noc!

I think that everyone is entitled to campaign for what's best for their own area but one also has to be realistic. One's energy would be far better spent on campaigning for improved road and public transport access to the West and for this new proposed rail link to DUB as opposed to making ridiculous demands for long haul flights from NOC. You just make yourself sound foolish by coming out with such statements as they instantly discredit any sensible things you campaign for.

Quoting 321neoLR (Reply 131):
If the mid west tds had their way, they would still insist that AL stops in Shannon on the way to dublin!

If anything, the ending of the SNN stopover was the best thing that ever happened for SNN itself not to mention DUB and Ireland as a whole. SNN still has a more than decent transatlantic network for an airport of its size operated by sensibly sized aircraft at good frequencies, good load factors and with lots of connection options as opposed to 2/3x weekly half empty widebody services with bad timings and very poor connections in the USA.
Airports: SNN GWY NOC DUB ORK BOS EWR JFK ORD MCI BOI SEA LHR STN CDG LYS FAO GVA HKG MEL ADL HBA
 
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:51 am

Quoting 321neoLR (Reply 131):
I watched the replay of willie Walsh talking to the joint committee.

Can I ask where did you find it online? I've checked the Oireachtas website and can only find playbacks of committee sittings from January...I'd be keen to watch the whole thing - there seem to be just a couple of random clips on YouTube.
 
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:24 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 128):
Think a few on here will be disappointed when then read this news !

But hardly surprising given that his nomination was for some time supported at Senior Board Levels. The question now is; what will this mean for Aer Lingus? Certainly disappointing from the perspective that; an external appointment is needed if any real continuous change is to be pushed through.

But then - what weight does the role really have if Aer Lingus is to be acquired in any event?

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Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:01 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 128):
Think a few on here will be disappointed when then read this news !
Quoting jrfspa320 (Reply 129):

Is EI maintance done in house at the moment? Or are heavy checks contracted out?

They do their own MX at DUB. ANd in fact have an Engineering apprenticeship program in place at the moment.
C Checks are carried out abroad. Hence the A330's getting refitted at BOS currently.

Quoting 321neoLR (Reply 131):
I have to say, I was very disappointed with the committee........
Your jobs are important to us until we get elected next year, then we will sell.

My big fear is that a small number of tds could block this takeover for selfish reasons, and come next year, there will be no airline group interested.

Amen to that. Local politics is affecting a national decision.

Quoting 321neo (Reply 128):
Think a few on here will be disappointed when then read this news !

No just some here.....market opened at 220....dropped to 215
http://www.ise.ie/Market-Data-Announ...anies/Equity-Details/?equity=41372
Quoting EIBusiness (Reply 136):
But hardly surprising given that his nomination was for some time supported at Senior Board Levels. ......what weight does the role really have if Aer Lingus is to be acquired in any event?

Personally this makes the IAG offer more compelling. This new CEO will not make any changes in EI expect to keep costs down. He in fact blocked any investment in new onboard J Class product apart from the seats themselves.

[Edited 2015-02-16 08:39:37]
 
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:08 pm

Quoting Phen (Reply 135):

Quoting 321neoLR (Reply 131):
I watched the replay of willie Walsh talking to the joint committee.

Can I ask where did you find it online? I've checked the Oireachtas website and can only find playbacks of committee sittings from January...I'd be keen to watch the whole thing - there seem to be just a couple of random clips on YouTube.

On sky channel 574 I think is oireachtas tv. It's on replay most of the time. Only on an irish box.

I just set it record, and I came upon it eventually. There is not much online.

It was pretty terrible viewing. Demands for outrageous flights.

I think willie Walsh did very well.


If this sale does not go through, I fear that Aer Lingus will never become part of a major group, unless it is failing like bmi did.

I think the unions and staff should be more concerned if the takeover does not go through.
 
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:01 pm

Not great news but not un surprising about the CEO.

Leo V has raised a point about the sale of EI which I don't believe has being covered. He says EI might expand in the "good times" but if any trouble was to come would they not pull back to core operations in MAD/LHR. I havn;t heard the full interview yet. Worth discussing?
 
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:09 pm

Quoting JAmie2k9 (Reply 139):
He says EI might expand in the "good times" but if any trouble was to come would they not pull back to core operations in MAD/LHR. I havn;t heard the full interview yet. Worth discussing?

If IAG expand EI then in a time of 'trouble' the greater suppoer of a large group may prevent the need to pull back to core operations. As it is EI aren't expanding very much as they cannot absorb and losses just to develop a route.
 
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:16 pm

Thanks 321neoLR and OA260 - I've decided to go with this option - so I'll certainly let you know how things work out!

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Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:40 pm

Quoting 321neoLR (Reply 138):
It was pretty terrible viewing. Demands for outrageous flights.

I think willie Walsh did very well.

Willie would have been well used to Irish politics from back in the Bertie days..
 
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:16 pm

Are we seeing a new Mannion?

From what I've heard so far, SK doesn't seem to have much of an imagination. What will happen if IAG takes over. WW presumably remembers SK; wonder what he thinks of him? Might we see him ease SK aside, perhaps moving to vice chairman of a holding company?

And what about the investment community; we've already heard that the share price has gone down to 215 (is this actually as a reaction to SK's appointment?) ... if the IAG takeover is allowed to fail and EI has a CEO who lacks vision, then the airline could very well be back to the bad old days. Throw in labour problems, increasing competition on short haul and the inability to make long haul reach its potential, and you do have the potential for those cheeses to line up.
 
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:31 pm

Quoting pilot21 (Reply 141):

On my BHD-LHR today there were two guys doing a MR they had come in on the LHR-BHD and still had 20 mins in the lounge   I heard them telling the lounge staff. Obviously BHD a lot smaller but seems the MR season  

Still impressed everytime I use the BHD service. An easy airport to get to and curbside to lounge in less than 5 mins. Also a lovely lounge. Just wish we could have one in DUB like it!

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EI121
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RE: Irish 3/15: Fasten Seatbelts - Turbulence Ahead!

Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:52 pm

Hi all,

I just have a few queries regarding the potential takeover of EI by IAG, which I hope you guys might be able to answer for me.

- Willie Walsh explained how if IAG took over EI they would increase the long haul fleet by approx 2 aircraft per year and also begin new routes to North America. With T2 in DUB already nearly at full capacity along with US Preclerance, which I presume the IAG are interested in most to make it attractive for connecting pax. How will they be able to accommodate these new aircraft and routes? Could we be seeing an upgrade in T1 to accommodate this extra capacity. Or even plans for another terminal if all goes to plan in the years to come?

- I would also like to hear everyones views on the potential takeover. IMHO I think it would be the best thing to happen to EI especially in the long run.

I could see DUB potentially being created into a major hub for transatlantic routes and even down the line connecting to Asia. Also with this maybe the 2nd runaway may not be too far away after all  

Also what routes do you guys think EI would begin? My guesses would be at first MIA, DFW and LAX.

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On another note: Is there any updated regarding the additional A330 EI are hoping to gain? It seems to have gotten very quiet.

Thanks in advance, I know there is a lot there but I would really appreciate your feedback and opinions!

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321neoLR
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RE: Irish 3/15: Fasten Seatbelts - Turbulence Ahead!

Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:18 pm

I think T2 would become a North Atlantic terminal, and all other terminals and piers would be for short haul, and everything else.

There has been rumours of remote parking stands with busses for pax, out near the fire station.

With IAGs buying power, AL could receive more 350s quicker than planned. There is also talk of the 321LR replacing the 757 leased aircraft.

The above scenario would make transit times a little longer, however, it would free up much needed space for more long haul.

It is really only congested until about 1200, after that most of the stands in T2 are free.
 
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RE: Irish 3/15: Fasten Seatbelts - Turbulence Ahead!

Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:29 am

Quoting EI121 (Reply 145):
How will they be able to accommodate these new aircraft and routes?

I would imagine they'll spill the shorthaul traffic over to Pier B in T1 for now. They might try to move EK over to T1 to free up a gate in the morning also and tempt them with a new lounge in T1 (which I would imagine EK are already pushing for in T2).

The current development plan in order of completion includes redevelopment of Pier A, then extending Pier B out parallel to Pier E, then I believe Pier F (from T2) and eventually a Pier G in T1 and finally extension of the redeveloped Pier B if necessary like so:


I think another new terminal is very far away, but the trigger point for a parallel runway is approaching fast. I think its 25 million pax per annum. Whether this trigger will be adhered to is another matter!
 
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RE: Irish 3/15: Fasten Seatbelts - Turbulence Ahead!

Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:05 am

Stobart Air supports IAG’s bid to take over Aer Lingus as it will lead to passenger growth and indirect jobs, according to the airline’s CEO.

Stobart Air currently operates Aer Lingus Regional, which offers services on local routes in Ireland, as well as smaller airports in Britain and France.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2015/0217/680772-aer-lingus-iag/
 
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RE: Irish 3/15: Fasten Seatbelts - Turbulence Ahead!

Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:19 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 148):
Stobart Air supports IAG’s bid to take over Aer Lingus as it will lead to passenger growth and indirect jobs, according to the airline’s CEO.

Thats hardly a surprise! Their franchise model did't work so well with flyBe at SEN. Hopefully it will mature over time.

Quoting 321neoLR (Reply 146):

I think T2 would become a North Atlantic terminal, and all other terminals and piers would be for short haul, and everything else.

There has been rumours of remote parking stands with busses for pax, out near the fire station.

Can't some of the 40x gates at the end of the terminal be screened from the rest of T2 to be used as CBP gates? If EI do expand then something will have to give, either fewer US airlines use CBP in DUB or not all EI flights clear CBP in DUB, assuming CBP won't extended staffing/opening hours beyond current times. They are under no obligation to extend the times if they don't want to, look at BA3, that no longer pre-clears at SNN. EK might be encouraged to move, possibly just their boarding area, which could be in Pier B, directly under an EK lounge in the old Gold Circle/DAA space and/or EI could do more short-haul and operate YYZ from B.

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