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Finns Trying To Get The Oldest DC-9-10 In Service

Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:43 am

According to Finnish media, the Finnish Aviation Museum is negotiating with the Kenyans to get the allegedly oldest DC-9-10(5Y-XXA) in regular service to the museum. Manufactured in 1965, the aircraft flew in AY colors between 1971-83(OH-LYD), hence the interest. Their current collection: http://www.ilmailumuseo.fi/index.php?page=aircrafts
Incidentally, there was a great trip report last year from Kenya featuring this particular DC-9:
Flying The Oldest Passenger Jet (FLY-SAX DC9-14) (by N178UA Jun 19 2014 in Trip Reports)
Let's hope they can acquire the plane. It would be a nice addition to their existing collection. A bigger hangar would be needed I guess, there seems to be a plan for this.

[Edited 2015-02-04 02:23:07]
 
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Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:58 am

It would be great to see it restored.
 
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Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:13 am

I do hope that they get it. And what I hear they are already submitting plans for extension of the museum for the City Of Vantaa.
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Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:51 am

They should have tried harder to get a Caravelle instead. The proto -10B ex Finnair was the last Caravelle flying in Congo til 2005, Waltair wanted to sell it, kept it flyworthy for a while for the Finns but they backed out.
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RE: Finns Trying To Get The Oldest DC-9-10 In Service

Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:53 am

When is it entering service with Delta?   
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RE: Finns Trying To Get The Oldest DC-9-10 In Service

Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:20 pm

Quoting offloaded (Reply 4):
When is it entering service with Delta?

When HEL freezes over  
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RE: Finns Trying To Get The Oldest DC-9-10 In Service

Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:38 pm

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 3):
They should have tried harder to get a Caravelle instead. The proto -10B ex Finnair was the last Caravelle flying in Congo til 2005, Waltair wanted to sell it, kept it flyworthy for a while for the Finns but they backed out.

Yes I agree. The failed Caravelle acquisition was in fact mentioned in the news I referred to as well. Fellow members may have details about that, probably just too expensive. Slightly off topic, do you know what happened to the Caravelle parked at NCE? She disappeared some years ago. Obviously the apron space was needed for the numerous corporate jets.
 
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Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:02 pm

Quoting saleya22r (Thread starter):
According to Finnish media, the Finnish Aviation Museum is negotiating with the Kenyans to get the allegedly oldest DC-9-10(5Y-XXA) in regular service to the museum. Manufactured in 1965, the aircraft flew in AY colors between 1971-83(OH-LYD), hence the interest.

It was originally delivered to AC February 24, 1966, the 3rd of the 6 early DC-9-14s, operated for about 2 years while waiting for their DC-9-32s. It was the 19th DC-9 built. My first two DC-9 flights were on those aircraft YVR-YWG-YVR a week or two after AC put the DC-9 into service in April 1966. Inaugural route was YUL-YWG-YVR. The aircraft overnighted at YVR and returned YVR-YWG-YUL the next morning. I made a daytrip YVR-YWG-YVR just to fly on the DC-9. Might have been the same aircraft in both directions.

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Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:13 pm

I have always thought it was an aviation travesty that DC-9-10 ship #1 was allowed to be scrapped. As was DC-8 ship #1. But then if it were my world I would save one of every airplane.

Now some smart exec with the ME3 should step forward to help finance such a museum. What a great attraction that would be for DXB! How many a.netters would transit DXB just to vist! Etihad listen up....
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Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:22 pm

What a wonderful idea! The DC-9-10 and subsequent versions had a huge impact in the ops and history of Finnair!
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Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:48 am

Quoting teme82 (Reply 5):
Quoting offloaded (Reply 4):
When is it entering service with Delta?

When HEL freezes over

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RE: Finns Trying To Get The Oldest DC-9-10 In Service

Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:51 am

Thats would be great! Never flew on this specific type, the only DC-9 i flew was the DC9-14 back in the 90s when i must have been only 7 - 10 years old. I was flying KAJ-HEL-ZRH-GVA, I guess some winter holiday in Finland with the family.
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Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:40 am

Flying on the "Trash Ten" as it was lovingly called at NW was always pleasant. Very comfortable seating. Kind of like riding in a vintage 1965 Ford Mustang compared to a 2015 Tercel. Tercel is a great vehicle but just lacks the classic look and feel of the DC-9-10.
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RE: Finns Trying To Get The Oldest DC-9-10 In Service

Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:49 pm

Quoting sailas (Reply 11):

Thats would be great! Never flew on this specific type, the only DC-9 i flew was the DC9-14 back in the 90s when i must have been only 7 - 10 years old. I was flying KAJ-HEL-ZRH-GVA, I guess some winter holiday in Finland with the family.

IIRC AY had replaced the -10 series already, might have been a -50 series plane or a MD..They were flying charters to the Alps then. In the 70s, the baby niner was AYs workhorse flying mainly domestic and Scandinavian routes. Some domestic routes were flown with Caravelles some with Convair Metropolitans when runways were too short for jets (TRE for example in those days).

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 12):
Flying on the "Trash Ten" as it was lovingly called at NW was always pleasant. Very comfortable seating. Kind of like riding in a vintage 1965 Ford Mustang compared to a 2015 Tercel. Tercel is a great vehicle but just lacks the classic look and feel of the DC-9-10.

Yes, the climb rate in cold dense air and light load was impressive. It felt like the take off was with full throttle, often open cockpit door during T/O and landing so the 1st row was almost like the jump seat..
 
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RE: Finns Trying To Get The Oldest DC-9-10 In Service

Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:30 pm

What happened to DC-9 #4? I thought it was the oldest in service and still in Africa??

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Toyota hasn't made the Tercel in over 15 years!
 
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RE: Finns Trying To Get The Oldest DC-9-10 In Service

Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:43 pm

Quoting teme82 (Reply 5):

Quoting offloaded (Reply 4):
When is it entering service with Delta?

When HEL freezes over  

So - tomorrow? :-P
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Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:48 pm

Quoting UA444 (Reply 14):
What happened to DC-9 #4? I thought it was the oldest in service and still in Africa??

Do you mean this one:
http://www.planespotters.net/Product...uglas/DC-9/45711,5Y-XXB-Fly540.php

Seems to be "stored", flew also in AY colors between 1971-83. First flight in June -65 but delivered to AC in April -66
 
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Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:08 pm

Quoting saleya22r (Reply 13):
IIRC AY had replaced the -10 series already, might have been a -50 series plane or a MD..They were flying charters to the Alps then. In the 70s, the baby niner was AYs workhorse flying mainly domestic and Scandinavian routes. Some domestic routes were flown with Caravelles some with Convair Metropolitans when runways were too short for jets (TRE for example in those days).

Finnair replaced most of their DC-9-10s during 1981-83 with six DC-9-41s purchased from TDA Toa Domestic Airlines. Five of these DC-9-40s soldiered on until the mid-1990s alongside twelve DC-9-51s and the MD-80s. The 17 DC-9s and 17 MD-80s (nine MD-82s, five MD-83s, and three MD-87s) made up the biggest part of the Finnair-fleet for some years until the DC-9-40s were replaced by additional MD-80s as part of their (original) plan to replace their DC-9s with "17 additional MD-80s". Only eight additional MD-80s were added and the DC-9-50s were mostly retained until 2003.

According to Finnair, the last DC-9-10 was retired from passenger service on 31 January 1986.

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RE: Finns Trying To Get The Oldest DC-9-10 In Service

Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:48 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
So - tomorrow? :-P

Nah... To that we need a lot more of cold air...
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Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:24 am

Quoting saleya22r (Reply 16):

The museum should try to get that one if its still fly able.
 
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Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:25 am

Is the plan to keep it flying? Could i get a ticket for it in finland? I would do so, trust me!
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RE: Finns Trying To Get The Oldest DC-9-10 In Service

Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:27 am

Quoting MD80 (Reply 17):

Ah i see. I hated flying the Md83 and 87. I did get to go in the cockpit once and sit on the captains lap. That was nice.
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Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:29 am

I assume that was some years ago 
 
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RE: Finns Trying To Get The Oldest DC-9-10 In Service

Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:34 pm

Quoting UA444 (Reply 19):
The museum should try to get that one if its still fly able.

# 4 and # 19 are both stored according to planespotters.net. I don't know how accurate this info is nor does it tell much about their airworthiness. #19 was flying last year when the trip report was made.

Quoting Ty134A (Reply 20):

Is the plan to keep it flying? Could i get a ticket for it in finland? I would do so, trust me!

My understanding is that they are just trying to get it to the museum. A flying DC-9-10 would probably become too expensive, who would sponsor it?

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